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we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Leopantro: 9:21pm On Aug 17, 2014
Nigeria’s Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Nwachukwu, has said the 16,000 resident Doctors who were reported as having been fired last week by the Federal health authorities, were only on suspension as the Federal Government mulls better ways to improve the healthcare sector.

“I believe the suspension is only temporary, the government is looking at how the healthcare system can be improved. But please, note that the suspension is just for only federal-owned hospitals, it is not extended to other state hospitals,” the Health Minister said.

On claims by doctors that the health insurance scheme the federal government promised was yet to be provided, Chukwu said the federal government had not begun the issuance of the insurance policy but that the Lagos State government had commenced the issuance of theirs.

“We are still working on the paper work. When it is ready we would definitely give it out. But we still need more volunteers, as health workers are little and they can’t handle the job alone,” he said.

http://www.ekekeee.com/didnt-sack-resident-doctors-suspended-federal-government-says/
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Miner13: 10:03pm On Aug 17, 2014
Leopantro: Nigeria’s Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Nwachukwu, has said the 16,000 resident Doctors who were reported as having been fired last week by the Federal health authorities, were only on suspension as the Federal Government mulls better ways to improve the healthcare sector.
“I believe the suspension is only temporary, the government is looking at how the healthcare system can be improved. But please, note that the suspension is just for only federal-owned hospitals, it is not extended to other state hospitals,” the Health Minister said.
On claims by doctors that the health insurance scheme the federal government promised was yet to be provided, Chukwu said the federal government had not begun the issuance of the insurance policy but that the Lagos State government had commenced the issuance of theirs.
“We are still working on the paper work. When it is ready we would definitely give it out. But we still need more volunteers, as health workers are little and they can’t handle the job alone,” he said.
http://www.ekekeee.com/didnt-sack-resident-doctors-suspended-federal-government-says/[/quote[quote author=Leopantro]Nigeria’s Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Nwachukwu, has said the 16,000 resident Doctors who were reported as having been fired last week by the Federal health authorities, were only on suspension as the Federal Government mulls better ways to improve the healthcare sector.
“I believe the suspension is only temporary, the government is looking at how the healthcare system can be improved. But please, note that the suspension is just for only federal-owned hospitals, it is not extended to other state hospitals,” the Health Minister said.
]
why is this man always contradicting himself.
you believe is a temporary suspension.
is there temporary or permanent suspension?

On claims by doctors that the health insurance scheme the federal government promised was yet to be provided, Chukwu said the federal government had not begun the issuance of the insurance policy but that the Lagos State government had commenced the issuance of theirs.

so, what is stopping the federal government when Lagos state could implement theirs?
lackadaisical attitude of this government is quite disgusting.

“We are still working on the paper work. When it is ready we would definitely give it out. But we still need more volunteers, as health workers are little and they can’t handle the job alone,” he said.

always working on paper work.

must everything be a fire brigade approach?
working on paper work till Ebola was transported to Nigeria
its a pity for these present set of leaders

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by magnusalbertus(m): 10:19pm On Aug 17, 2014
'I wan sack doctors' . . oya sack them na. let's see how u want to manufacture 16000 trained docs to replace them. them dey collect letter of termination of appointment if na suspension?

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Nobody: 11:00pm On Aug 17, 2014
Here comes Chukwu again...speaking from both sides of his mouth since 1800!
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by FASTLINK1: 11:13pm On Aug 17, 2014
I guess he meant temporal sack! undecided
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by mez(m): 11:27pm On Aug 17, 2014
Don't you just love Nigerian government? Expert wordsmen grin
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by mez(m): 11:53pm On Aug 17, 2014
Leopantro: Nigeria’s Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Nwachukwu, has said the 16,000 resident Doctors who were reported as having been fired last week by the Federal health authorities, were only on suspension as the Federal Government mulls better ways to improve the healthcare sector.

“I believe the suspension is only temporary, the government is looking at how the healthcare system can be improved. But please, note that the suspension is just for only federal-owned hospitals, it is not extended to other state hospitals,” the Health Minister said.

On claims by doctors that the health insurance scheme the federal government promised was yet to be provided, Chukwu said the federal government had not begun the issuance of the insurance policy but that the Lagos State government had commenced the issuance of theirs.

“We are still working on the paper work. When it is ready we would definitely give it out. But we still need more volunteers, as health workers are little and they can’t handle the job alone,” he said.

http://www.ekekeee.com/didnt-sack-resident-doctors-suspended-federal-government-says/

First, it was "...issue letters of termination of appointment..." now, it's "...they were only suspended..."
I didn't know the phrases were interchangeable

Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by royaltheo(m): 12:01am On Aug 18, 2014
In its usual manner, this govt has continued to contradict itself especially as it relates to the unpopular 'sack' of resident doctors - which has been attempted by unsuccessfully by military regimes in the past, it is therefore surprising that a democratic government will tow this line in the first place. God bless Nigeria

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by McStoic(m): 12:35am On Aug 18, 2014
Whether the resident doctors were sacked or not, one thing remains clear: returning to status quo will cause a lot of chain reaction in the health sector.

In saner climes, the responsibilities of the government towards a medical student stops or kind of gets limited once they are through with their intership or housemanship as the case is ( In USA, for instance, they sponsor themselves while the government only pays them stipend to aid them) .For those who are not aware, the federal government still trains a resident doctor to pass his exams towards attaining consultancy! Meanwhile, other medical students in say med lab and co are left to cater for the expenses incurred while trying to attain the same status of high class specialists.

From the foregoing, resident doctors used to pay for their residency but at a point in time, Nigeria didn't have enough doctors and it was decided (during the military era) that the cost of the residency program would be shouldered by the government to enable greater output of doctors. For many years this had been on, no one complained, not even other members of the health sector. Cue in to recent developments, where doctors are against like better benefits for other paramedical bodies. Hardly anywhere in the world can you find the government bearing the total brunt of a student's tuition. These resident doctors are students and ought to pay for their further studies just like other allopathic students do. It's clear that only the doctors have been favoured all these while and now they are trying to abuse the privilege. If the suspension should ever be called off, the president should be ready to pay for other medical students as well. Most Nigerians don't know that the amount of money spent to train these resident doctors can be chanelled into other areas cos they eat up a large chunk of the budget. Those who are aggrieved can still go and pass their consultancy training at other West African Countries or even overseas like they are threatening...........Whatever is good for the ox is good for the gander!!

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by magnusalbertus(m): 1:32am On Aug 18, 2014
McStoic: Whether the resident doctors were sacked or not, one thing remains clear: returning to status quo will cause a lot of chain reaction in the health sector.

In saner climes, the responsibilities of the government towards a medical student stops or kind of limited once they are through with their intership or housemanship as the case is. For those who are not aware, the federal government still trains a resident doctor to pass his exams towards attaining consultancy! Meanwhile, other medical students in say med lab and co are left to cater for the expenses incurred while trying to upgrade to attain the same status of a high class specialists.

From the foregoing, resident doctors used to pay for their residency but at a point in time, Nigeria didn't have enough doctors and it was decided (during the military era) that the cost of the residency program would be shouldered by the government to enable greater output of doctors. Fro many years this had been on , no one complained, not even other members of the health sector. Cue in to recent developments, where doctors are against like better benefits for other paramedical bodies. Hardly anywhere in the world can you find the government bearing the brunt of a students tuition. These resident doctors are students and ought to pay for their further studies just like other allopathic students do. It's clear that only the doctors have been favoured all these while and now they are trying to abuse the privilege. If the suspension should ever be called off, the president should be ready to pay for other medical students as well. Most Nigerians don't know that the amount of money spent to train these resident doctors can be chanellee into other areas cos they eat up a large chunk of the budget. Those who are aggrieved can still go and pass their consultancy training at West African College Of Surgeons...........Whatever is good for the ox is good for the gander!!
u don't know wat ure saying so better sharap! u don't know anything about residency obviously. . .stop betraying ur ignorant mind.

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by McStoic(m): 5:59am On Aug 18, 2014
magnusalbertus: u don't know wat ure saying so better sharap! u don't know anything about residency obviously. . .stop betraying ur ignorant mind.
Why don't you teach me so I can learn? While at it, answer this simple question: Has the FG been sponsoring doctors' residency program or not? If yes, why cann't other professionals benefit from the gesture? Thank you.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by McStoic(m): 6:20am On Aug 18, 2014
Even if I am wrong, why should a temporary staff like the resident doctors hold the government by the jugular at a time like this? Why must a temporary staff dictate to the employer on what and how to remunerate the permanent staff? Sometimes I wonder at the way some of these doctors reason. In one of the Federal Medical Centres last week, a so called senior consultant in Family Medicine was questioning where the FG got the N1 billion they released for the eradication of the Ebola virus (failing to realize that, a man may not have money but will definitely be forced to have even if it means borrowing when his wife is in labour) . His rationale was that since government claimed they didn't have money, where could they have raised that from!! Imagine how a full fledged health professional is reasoning, you can now imagine how the lesser group who are resident doctors will be...........Funny set of people! You cannot win a war against the government, be warned all of you.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Leopantro: 6:44am On Aug 18, 2014
McStoic: Whether the resident doctors were sacked or not, one thing remains clear: returning to status quo will cause a lot of chain reaction in the health sector.

In saner climes, the responsibilities of the government towards a medical student stops or kind of gets limited once they are through with their intership or housemanship as the case is ( In USA, for instance, they sponsor themselves while the government only pays them stipend to aid them) .For those who are not aware, the federal government still trains a resident doctor to pass his exams towards attaining consultancy! Meanwhile, other medical students in say med lab and co are left to cater for the expenses incurred while trying to attain the same status of high class specialists.

From the foregoing, resident doctors used to pay for their residency but at a point in time, Nigeria didn't have enough doctors and it was decided (during the military era) that the cost of the residency program would be shouldered by the government to enable greater output of doctors. For many years this had been on, no one complained, not even other members of the health sector. Cue in to recent developments, where doctors are against like better benefits for other paramedical bodies. Hardly anywhere in the world can you find the government bearing the total brunt of a student's tuition. These resident doctors are students and ought to pay for their further studies just like other allopathic students do. It's clear that only the doctors have been favoured all these while and now they are trying to abuse the privilege. If the suspension should ever be called off, the president should be ready to pay for other medical students as well. Most Nigerians don't know that the amount of money spent to train these resident doctors can be chanelled into other areas cos they eat up a large chunk of the budget. Those who are aggrieved can still go and pass their consultancy training at other West African Countries or even overseas like they are threatening...........Whatever is good for the ox is good for the gander!!

i would assume you are intelligent ( an i use the word freely) so i would not start abusing someone so early in the morning. use the internet next time.

in USA, the American government established Medicare.

Medicare funds the vast majority
of residency training in the US.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)

in UK, Governmrnt funds residency training

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_(medicine)

if you still want to argue, read the following and ask yourself where he is getting the 50k from.

A doctor who came here
for MSc in Public health. He had
is eye in the residency program
but he cant make it there from
Nigeria. He finished his MSc n
now in the residence program
with $50k pay

https://www.nairaland.com/1482362/general-u.s.a-student-visa-enquiries-part5/469#25488443

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by McStoic(m): 7:13am On Aug 18, 2014
Leopantro:

i would assume you are intelligent ( an i use the word freely) so i would not start abusing someone so early in the morning. use the internet next time.

in USA, the American government established Medicare.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)

in UK, Governmrnt funds residency training

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_(medicine)

if you still want to argue, read the following and ask yourself where he is getting the 50k from.



https://www.nairaland.com/1482362/general-u.s.a-student-visa-enquiries-part5/469#25488443
Even if I am wrong, why should a temporary staff like the resident doctors hold the government by
the jugular at a time like this? Why must a temporary staff dictate to the employer on what and how
to remunerate the permanent staff? Sometimes I wonder at the way some of these doctors reason.
In one of the Federal Medical Centres last week, a so called senior consultant in Family Medicine
was questioning where the FG got the N1 billion they released for the eradication of the Ebola virus
(failing to realize that, a man may not have money but will definitely be forced to have even if it
means borrowing when his wife is in labour) . His rationale was that since government claimed they
didn't have money, where could they have raised that from!! Imagine how a full fledged health
professional is reasoning, you can now imagine how the lesser group who are resident doctors will
be...........Funny set of people! You cannot win a war against the government, be warned all of you.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Amhappy(f): 7:15am On Aug 18, 2014
Hmmm if what Mcstoic said is true about residency training. Do the govt pay resident drs salary while still paying their sch fees? In addition why is the health sector not generating fund in this country with the quality of Drs we have in Nigeria? Can govt hospitals fund their equipment,if yes why is this not happening?I noticed that some Drs are now into India visa for medical treatment. Why cant we get anything right in this country?
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by magnusalbertus(m): 7:21am On Aug 18, 2014
McStoic: Why don't you teach me so I can learn? While at it, answer this simple question: Has the FG been sponsoring doctors' residency program or not? If yes, why cann't other professionals benefit from the gesture? Thank you.
have resident doctors been overworking themselves in govt hospitals or not? tell me why they don't deserve their pay. should a university lecturer not be paid because he is pursuing PhD while lecturing? my dear residents see patients and patients pay govt thus govt pay residents.

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Afrok(m): 7:27am On Aug 18, 2014
Yes... Dem don talk again, our govt always changing their words as if dem be nannies wey dey change diapers undecided
From the proposed sacking of lecturers during ASUU strike and now NMA, it's like these people don't know the meaning of SACKING workers, coz dem don abuse the word "sack" too much or dem think say na d one wey dem dey use to process garri?.

Talk and keep to ur words, that's what makes a real man and a great nation...
God bless Nigeria.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Sirgen05(m): 7:29am On Aug 18, 2014
Let's watch as the drama play out!!

I knew from onset that government can't win on this!!
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Swagavillage(m): 7:31am On Aug 18, 2014
we know
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Leopantro: 7:35am On Aug 18, 2014
McStoic: Even if I am wrong, why should a temporary staff like the resident doctors hold the government by
the jugular at a time like this? Why must a temporary staff dictate to the employer on what and how
to remunerate the permanent staff? Sometimes I wonder at the way some of these doctors reason.
In one of the Federal Medical Centres last week, a so called senior consultant in Family Medicine
was questioning where the FG got the N1 billion they released for the eradication of the Ebola virus
(failing to realize that, a man may not have money but will definitely be forced to have even if it
means borrowing when his wife is in labour) . His rationale was that since government claimed they
didn't have money, where could they have raised that from!! Imagine how a full fledged health
professional is reasoning, you can now imagine how the lesser group who are resident doctors will
be...........Funny set of people! You cannot win a war against the government, be warned all of you.

"Even if you are wrong?" i just proved without a doubt that your statement and mindset was wrong. therefore, any further statement from you is considered bias and illogical. the implication of being proved wrong will aid in enlighthen others that will follow your line of reasoning and utter unreasonable statements and course of actions.

someone made a wrong statement two weeks ago and because of that statement, countless Nigerians bathed with salt and 5 Nigerians died.

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Sirgen05(m): 7:45am On Aug 18, 2014
Leopantro:


someone made a wrong statement two weeks ago and because of that statement, countless Nigerians bathed with salt and 5 Nigerians died.


5 Only??

Thank you for educating that fellow!!
Next time he will substantiate his claims!!!

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by McStoic(m): 7:46am On Aug 18, 2014
Leopantro:

"Even if you are wrong?" i just proved without a doubt that your statement and mindset was wrong. therefore, any further statement from you is considered bias and illogical. the implication of being proved wrong will aid in enlighthen others that will follow your line of reasoning and utter unreasonable statements and course of actions.

someone made a wrong statement two weeks ago and because of that statement, countless Nigerians bathed with salt and 5 Nigerians died.
You are pitting ur own views against mine hence you cann't tell me what to do. I own up that part of my arguments were hasty, but young man I would have you still explain to me why the post graduate training of other medical bodies in our health sector do not get equal treatment........Am still waiting for your magnusalbertus of a colleague to clarify the poser I threw his path. Thank you.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by McStoic(m): 7:50am On Aug 18, 2014
magnusalbertus: have resident doctors been overworking themselves in govt hospitals or not? tell me why they don't deserve their pay. should a university lecturer not be paid because he is pursuing PhD while lecturing? my dear residents see patients and patients pay govt thus govt pay residents.
Stop clawing at the straw. In the US which you use as a yardstick, other members of the medical get equal treatment.........why is ours so different and what right have you to tell your employer what to do with his permanent employee.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Morotov1(m): 8:16am On Aug 18, 2014
WWW.ekekeee.com
a very funny website to cull a sensitive news like this.
How credible is this news.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by armadeo(m): 8:54am On Aug 18, 2014
Amhappy: Hmmm if what Mcstoic said is true about residency training. Do the govt pay resident drs salary while still paying their sch fees? In addition why is the health sector not generating fund in this country with the quality of Drs we have in Nigeria? Can govt hospitals fund their equipment,if yes why is this not happening?I noticed that some Drs are now into India visa for medical treatment. Why cant we get anything right in this country?


What mcstoic said isn't true.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by NWANICHODE: 9:16am On Aug 18, 2014
It is now clear that the FG is clueless! Even a monkey knows that you cannot sack the doctors.

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Kcinho(m): 9:28am On Aug 18, 2014
McStoic: You are pitting ur own views against mine hence you cann't tell me what to do. I own up that part of my arguments were hasty, but young man I would have you still explain to me why the post graduate training of other medical bodies in our health sector do not get equal treatment........Am still waiting for your magnusalbertus of a colleague to clarify the poser I threw his path. Thank you.
How many of the other medical bodies have a post graduate school? The students in school of nursing (not bsc) in UNTH get #10000 monthly and no medical school in Nigeria pays undergraduate medical students.

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by mez(m): 9:29am On Aug 18, 2014
Leopantro:

i would assume you are intelligent ( an i use the word freely) so i would not start abusing someone so early in the morning. use the internet next time.

in USA, the American government established Medicare.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)

in UK, Governmrnt funds residency training

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_(medicine)

if you still want to argue, read the following and ask yourself where he is getting the 50k from.



https://www.nairaland.com/1482362/general-u.s.a-student-visa-enquiries-part5/469#25488443

Hahaha! grin grin grin angry grin grin

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by phantom(m): 9:38am On Aug 18, 2014
Kcinho:
How many of the other medical bodies have a post graduate school? The students in school of nursing (not bsc) in UNTH get #10000 monthly and no medical school in Nigeria pays undergraduate medical students.

you beat me to it.

how many of our pharmacists are interested in their west African college? they prefer to open a pharmacy when they leave school or rent their licenses out.

undergraduate nurses are paid monthly. i bet. Nigerians don't know that.
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Amhappy(f): 9:39am On Aug 18, 2014
armadeo:


What mcstoic said isn't true.
Ok great to know na bashing
Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Nobody: 11:21am On Aug 18, 2014
Misplaced priorities. Just think about these: #255million($1.6million) to purchase only TWO bullet proof cars. Missing 50 billion DOLLARS
(eventually scaled down to 20 billion then later to
10 billion dollars), and 10 billion naira to maintain
private jets. But government would rather sack doctors instead
of releasing 13 billion naira to pay them.

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Re: we Didn’t Sack Resident Doctors; We Only Suspended Them’, The Federal Government by Zeus777: 1:41pm On Aug 18, 2014
McStoic: Whether the resident doctors were sacked or not, one thing remains clear: returning to status quo will cause a lot of chain reaction in the health sector.

In saner climes, the responsibilities of the government towards a medical student stops or kind of gets limited once they are through with their intership or housemanship as the case is ( In USA, for instance, they sponsor themselves while the government only pays them stipend to aid them) .For those who are not aware, the federal government still trains a resident doctor to pass his exams towards attaining consultancy! Meanwhile, other medical students in say med lab and co are left to cater for the expenses incurred while trying to attain the same status of high class specialists.

From the foregoing, resident doctors used to pay for their residency but at a point in time, Nigeria didn't have enough doctors and it was decided (during the military era) that the cost of the residency program would be shouldered by the government to enable greater output of doctors. For many years this had been on, no one complained, not even other members of the health sector. Cue in to recent developments, where doctors are against like better benefits for other paramedical bodies. Hardly anywhere in the world can you find the government bearing the total brunt of a student's tuition. These resident doctors are students and ought to pay for their further studies just like other allopathic students do. It's clear that only the doctors have been favoured all these while and now they are trying to abuse the privilege. If the suspension should ever be called off, the president should be ready to pay for other medical students as well. Most Nigerians don't know that the amount of money spent to train these resident doctors can be chanelled into other areas cos they eat up a large chunk of the budget. Those who are aggrieved can still go and pass their consultancy training at other West African Countries or even overseas like they are threatening...........Whatever is good for the ox is good for the gander!!
hmmm so Nigeria now has enuf medical specialist abi ?? So residence doctors are now medical students? Ur view in my opinion sir/ma reek of unnecessary beef aka long term jealousy from university days!!!

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