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Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by lorRhyMeZ: 6:27pm On Aug 18, 2014
Okijajuju1:


Thanks..

And Death to all non Jews.. angry Including Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Krishnas, Scientologists, all...

Yahwah is the only God and he has no son. angry

Coincidentally,Muslims share that believe..and even more suprising is the fact that Muslims and Jews share same ancestry..dunno about Christians though..grin
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by ISpiksDaTroof: 6:51pm On Aug 18, 2014
HappyJoe: Christians in Iraq want Muslims to stop 1. beheading them 2. forcing them to flee their homes 3. forcing them to pay jizya tax.

Christians in Pakistan want Muslims to stop 1. sentencing them to death for blasphemy 2. burning their homes.

Christians in Saudi Arabia want Muslims to stop 1. preventing them from building houses of worship 2. seizing their bibles.

Islam has no competition in intolerance in the World.

Yes, there are a few intolerant Jews, but this doesn't compare with the institutionalized intolerance of Muslim societies - even Sharia states in Nigeria.

As far a Christians are concerned - Jews are 100 times more tolerant than Muslims. I can support this with facts.
The overly religious Nigerian is the most ignorant animal on the planet today.

Saudi Arabia will not accept any other religion but Islam. This is a known fact. Respect their rules.

How many Jews are there in the world? Less than 20 million. How many Jewish countries are there? How many Jews have you even seen face to face? But "Jews are more tolerant" than muslims in your own head. Get rid of the hate in your heart.

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Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by cirmuell(m): 7:09pm On Aug 18, 2014
abubello: I hope Nigerian Christians who blindly support the zionist regime are reading this!

oh they should hate 'em? Dumb post. Mtcheew!
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by pheliciti: 7:09pm On Aug 18, 2014
SamIkenna: This is laughable. It's seems all Nigerian eyes are on the Jews these days. But I have a question for these eyes: How many of you would choose Saudi over Israel if the two nations were the only options left in the universe to live in?

Let's bring it home a bit. How many would choose Borno state Nigeria, over Israel? The answer is none. One thing is common with ardent Israel bashers - they're all hypocrites. I urge all of you to purge yourselves of the existing hate you endlessly breed for your fellow Nigerians, your fellow Africans, and people of other faiths first before raising a finger at Jews.

World's 15 million jewelry have given the world what 1.2 billion Africans have failed to give humanity. They have tasted a kind of hell no other nation big or small has ever come close to and yet they bounced back. If a million Jews are intolerant, as bad as it is, is it worse than over 1 billion intolerant Muslims? Is it worse than the extremist Muslims killing Nigerians especially the middle belters since 1945? You bet the answer.

How many of you hypocrites have looked up, helped, or consoled any of the victims of terrorism in Nigeria? You see; you can't even help your neighbor but you want to pretend you love the Greek or Armenian that was spat on in Israel. What a joke! My advice to you all is to face Nigeria and endeavor to make it better. Quit your 'Jew' obsession and help Nigeria export knowledge to the rest of the world instead of the current endless breed and export of boko haram, shekau, ogwuche, underwear bomber, and 2 Nigerian-British broad-day light butchers/terrorists.

The Jew that spits is far better than a fellow country man that hates, supports terror, and decapitates at will.

Muslims are intolerant right? And the Jews are better? Please dig up answers to the following?

Why is it that no Christian can openly proselytize in Israel
Why are there more Jewish Muslims than Christains in Israel
Why don't our popular Penticostal churches set up in Israel; after all, that was the starting place of the Christian faith
Why do Jews treat christians with derision especially as they have a link in Jesus and Moses (note that the fight with the Arabs is over land)
Do you know the Talmud lays no blame on a Jew killing a non- Jew?
Closer home, since you justify your point with Nigerian examples, why do you have more churches in the North than you have mosques in the South (SW exempted)?
Do you really believe that killings in the North is Muslim vs Christian, especially if most of the casualties are Moslems too

I do not wish that any other race would go through what the Jews went through during the holocaust of about 5 years. Neither would any race want to be victims of a slave trade that pillaged the best of the black race for upwards 500 hundred years. It is thus wrong to say that the 15 million Jews have contributed more to the world than to 1.2 billion blacks. For one thing, i came to the world through the black race and it is up to me to make the best of it; likewise each self deprecating black man. Finally, it is certainly wrong to call 1billion Muslims intolerant because of contemporary media blitz. The killings the Middle East are wrong, but dig deeper for the causes and see if they are merely religious. Do read up on how the supposedly intolerant Muslims allowed the Israelis to settle in the Palestine territories only to be made landless, read the historical Muslim conduct during the crusades (although prosecuted by Europe) and then take a point of view of who is indeed intolerant.
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by cirmuell(m): 7:17pm On Aug 18, 2014
SamIkenna: This is laughable. It's seems all Nigerian eyes are on the Jews these days. But I have a question for these eyes: How many of you would choose Saudi over Israel if the two nations were the only options left in the universe to live in?

Let's bring it home a bit. How many would choose Borno state Nigeria, over Israel? The answer is none. One thing is common with ardent Israel bashers - they're all hypocrites. I urge all of you to purge yourselves of the existing hate you endlessly breed for your fellow Nigerians, your fellow Africans, and people of other faiths first before raising a finger at Jews.

World's 15 million jewelry have given the world what 1.2 billion Africans have failed to give humanity. They have tasted a kind of hell no other nation big or small has ever come close to and yet they bounced back. If a million Jews are intolerant, as bad as it is, is it worse than over 1 billion intolerant Muslims? Is it worse than the extremist Muslims killing Nigerians especially the middle belters since 1945? You bet the answer.

How many of you hypocrites have looked up, helped, or consoled any of the victims of terrorism in Nigeria? You see; you can't even help your neighbor but you want to pretend you love the Greek or Armenian that was spat on in Israel. What a joke! My advice to you all is to face Nigeria and endeavor to make it better. Quit your 'Jew' obsession and help Nigeria export knowledge to the rest of the world instead of the current endless breed and export of boko haram, shekau, ogwuche, underwear bomber, and 2 Nigerian-British broad-day light butchers/terrorists.

The Jew that spits is far better than a fellow country man that hates, supports terror, and decapitates at will.
they are bloody hypocrites, it's in their blood.
A jew over a muslim any day any time. Deal with it

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Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by HappyJoe: 7:56pm On Aug 18, 2014
pheliciti:
Muslims are intolerant right? And the Jews are better? Please dig up answers to the following?
Why is it that no Christian can openly proselytize in Israel
Why are there more Jewish Muslims than Christains in Israel
Why don't our popular Penticostal churches set up in Israel; after all, that was the starting place of the Christian faith
Why do Jews treat christians with derision especially as they have a link in Jesus and Moses (note that the fight with the Arabs is over land)
Do you know the Talmud lays no blame on a Jew killing a non- Jew?
Closer home, since you justify your point with Nigerian examples, why do you have more churches in the North than you have mosques in the South (SW exempted)?
Do you really believe that killings in the North is Muslim vs Christian, especially if most of the casualties are Moslems too
I do not wish that any other race would go through what the Jews went through during the holocaust of about 5 years. Neither would any race want to be victims of a slave trade that pillaged the best of the black race for upwards 500 hundred years. It is thus wrong to say that the 15 million Jews have contributed more to the world than to 1.2 billion blacks. For one thing, i came to the world through the black race and it is up to me to make the best of it; likewise each self deprecating black man. Finally, it is certainly wrong to call 1billion Muslims intolerant because of contemporary media blitz. The killings the Middle East are wrong, but dig deeper for the causes and see if they are merely religious. Do read up on how the supposedly intolerant Muslims allowed the Israelis to settle in the Palestine territories only to be made landless, read the historical Muslim conduct during the crusades (although prosecuted by Europe) and then take a point of view of who is indeed intolerant.

2,500 Delegates Attend World Pentecostal Conference in Jerusalem

More than 2,500 delegates from many countries are participating in the three-day world conference here of the Pentecostal movement, formally organized as the Church of God in Christ. The movement claims 8,500,000 members throughout the world, and considers the rebirth of the State of Israel as one of the signs that the Messiah is coming.
Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion in a message to the delegates emphasized “the historic meaning of the Biblical promises for the return of Israel to its land and the revival of the language of the prophets.” Abba Eban, Israel’s Minister of Education, addressing the conference, pointed out that “this generation’s greatest issue is draw not between Christianity and Judaism, and not between Israel and the Christian nations, but between those who assert and those who deny the supremacy of faith and freedom. “


Read more: http://www.jta.org/1961/05/23/archive/2500-delegates-attend-world-pentecostal-conference-in-jerusalem#ixzz3AlrUSg1a

107 Ugandan Anglicans going to Jerusalem for Global Anglican Future Conference

Thirty-four Bishops from the Church of Uganda and their wives will travel to Jerusalem later this month for the Global Anglican Future Conference (GAFCON). Also in the delegation, there will be thirty clergy and lay leaders from around the country with experience in different areas of ministry.

1,000 people from around the worldwide Anglican Communion, including more than 280 bishops, will participate in this Pilgrimage, and the Church of Uganda will be more than ten percent. Twelve members of our own Anglican Youth Fellowship Choir have been invited to lead the music for this strategic event, and this is a great honour for us in Uganda.

http://www.virtueonline.org/107-ugandan-anglicans-going-jerusalem-global-anglican-future-conference

I'm waiting for the first person who'll prove that these events would be possible in ANY Muslim country - starting from Saudi Arabia.
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by AlfaSeltzer(m): 9:14pm On Aug 18, 2014
SamIkenna: This is laughable. It's seems all Nigerian eyes are on the Jews these days. But I have a question for these eyes: How many of you would choose Saudi over Israel if the two nations were the only options left in the universe to live in?

Let's bring it home a bit. How many would choose Borno state Nigeria, over Israel? The answer is none. One thing is common with ardent Israel bashers - they're all hypocrites. I urge all of you to purge yourselves of the existing hate you endlessly breed for your fellow Nigerians, your fellow Africans, and people of other faiths first before raising a finger at Jews.

World's 15 million jewelry have given the world what 1.2 billion Africans have failed to give humanity. They have tasted a kind of hell no other nation big or small has ever come close to and yet they bounced back. If a million Jews are intolerant, as bad as it is, is it worse than over 1 billion intolerant Muslims? Is it worse than the extremist Muslims killing Nigerians especially the middle belters since 1945? You bet the answer.

How many of you hypocrites have looked up, helped, or consoled any of the victims of terrorism in Nigeria? You see; you can't even help your neighbor but you want to pretend you love the Greek or Armenian that was spat on in Israel. What a joke! My advice to you all is to face Nigeria and endeavor to make it better. Quit your 'Jew' obsession and help Nigeria export knowledge to the rest of the world instead of the current endless breed and export of boko haram, shekau, ogwuche, underwear bomber, and 2 Nigerian-British broad-day light butchers/terrorists.

The Jew that spits is far better than a fellow country man that hates, supports terror, and decapitates at will.

Look at this brainwashed eediott!

You just spit out lame propaganda coupled with fallacies and are impressing the gullible.

People like you make me sick.

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Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by AlfaSeltzer(m): 9:19pm On Aug 18, 2014
xtians are the most stupiid gullible people I ever met.
they so fuckin' hate themselves, especially the african ones.

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Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by tijjanioyan: 9:28pm On Aug 18, 2014
HappyJoe:

Don't know what you're point is. But when last did you see Jews beheading Christians for their beliefs?
gradually it wil come 2dat
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by tijjanioyan: 10:18pm On Aug 18, 2014
I tot xtians say all power belong 2jesus dat he's god dat all d power in heaven &on earth is given 2him&dat he alone can save.if these claims are nothing but d truth why doesnt he use d power 2save his kinsmen since almost 2000yrs ago?
"Satan trembles on hearing d Name Of Jesus"why dat same satan sit down gidigba 4jesus room dey cause katakata?is it only in my country jesus's power reigns.wahala dey oo,sometin is wrong somwia
Honestly,power belongs 2GOD almighty alone He guides whom He wills & beside Him there is no other god&no other savior.
Isaiah 40vs18 &25
,, 43vs 10-12
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by SamIkenna: 10:26pm On Aug 18, 2014
pheliciti:

Muslims are intolerant right? And the Jews are better? Please dig up answers to the following?

Why is it that no Christian can openly proselytize in Israel
Why are there more Jewish Muslims than Christains in Israel
Why don't our popular Penticostal churches set up in Israel; after all, that was the starting place of the Christian faith
Why do Jews treat christians with derision especially as they have a link in Jesus and Moses (note that the fight with the Arabs is over land)
Do you know the Talmud lays no blame on a Jew killing a non- Jew?
Closer home, since you justify your point with Nigerian examples, why do you have more churches in the North than you have mosques in the South (SW exempted)?
Do you really believe that killings in the North is Muslim vs Christian, especially if most of the casualties are Moslems too

I do not wish that any other race would go through what the Jews went through during the holocaust of about 5 years. Neither would any race want to be victims of a slave trade that pillaged the best of the black race for upwards 500 hundred years. It is thus wrong to say that the 15 million Jews have contributed more to the world than to 1.2 billion blacks. For one thing, i came to the world through the black race and it is up to me to make the best of it; likewise each self deprecating black man. Finally, it is certainly wrong to call 1billion Muslims intolerant because of contemporary media blitz. The killings the Middle East are wrong, but dig deeper for the causes and see if they are merely religious. Do read up on how the supposedly intolerant Muslims allowed the Israelis to settle in the Palestine territories only to be made landless, read the historical Muslim conduct during the crusades (although prosecuted by Europe) and then take a point of view of who is indeed intolerant.

Visit Pakistan, Saudi, and the rest of muslim majority countries and then visit Israel - tell me what you see, that's if you make it alive from some Muslim countries. Israel is nation of laws where freedom of worship and association is constitutionally guaranteed. Are they perfect? You bet. But can you compared them with any Islamic majority nation - your guess is as good as mine. In Israel there are gangs, extremists, and skin-heads that're willing to trample on your right as a foreigner or non-Jew, but when caught, as they occasionally do get caught, Israeli law unleashes its full wrath irrespective of who the offender is. Even the previous Prime minister, Olmert, was not spared - he's doing time in prison as I write. So, people, show me how Israel is not far better than all these banana republics that're being daily smoked, and doubly for that matter, by half-baked leaders and extremists political sheiks.

Of course I do not agree in totality Israeli position on Palestine. But when surrounded by implacable Arab enemies you tell me the 'smooth' survival route.

In summary, regarding the subject, that is - the new Nigeria's 'Jew' obsession, I see hypocrisy of quantifiable magnitude. It's insanely hypocritical because the monikers that are on the front-line of this new ignoble frontier are the same monikers that are unashamedly tribalists and religious extremists. Israel is a majority jewish nation so I'm confused when American-claiming but closet Islamist fellas say Saudi Arabia is a strict Muslim nation and therefore non-muslims in Saudi Kingdom should forget their freedom, really? The same fellas who want you and I to forget our freedom in Saudi because its Islamic want us to fight for it in a Jewish nation - don't you cringe on this level of hypocrisy?

My point is simple and its this: All nations, religious or not, have some kind of intolerance, hence the disproportionate focus on the Jews is pathetic and unreservedly unwarranted. And for those who have issue with my statement that Jews, in modern times, have contributed to humanity far more than Africans I wait for your substantiated rebuttal. Note: I engage in only civil discourse with folks who've made it past high school.
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by pheliciti: 12:54pm On Aug 19, 2014
SamIkenna:

Visit Pakistan, Saudi, and the rest of muslim majority countries and then visit Israel - tell me what you see, that's if you make it alive from some Muslim countries. Israel is nation of laws where freedom of worship and association is constitutionally guaranteed.
Christians Discriminated Against by Israel.

Dear Sir, you truly belief the excerpt above? It would shock to know that there are laws in Israel against evangelizing. People can organize conventions or go on pilgrimage in Israel. Let them organise a Nigerian style crusade and see what comes out of it. Please read the following report

‘Christians in the Holy Land’

By Donald Neff
Former Israel Bureau Chief for Time Magazine
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Israel

On Dec. 29, 1977, Christians in Israel and the occupied territories protested a new law passed by the Israeli parliament making it illegal for missionaries to proselytize Jews. Protestant churches charged that the law had been “hastily pushed through parliament during the Christmas period when Christians were busily engaged in preparing for and celebrating their major festival.” The law made missionaries liable to five years’ imprisonment for attempting to persuade people to change their religion, and three years’ imprisonment for any Jew who converted. The United Christian Council complained that the law could be “misused in restricting religious freedom in Israel.”

Donald Neff has been a journalist for forty years. He spent 16 years in service for Time Magazine and is a regular contributor to Middle East International and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. He is the author of five excellent books on the Middle East.
Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offering of “material inducement” for a person to change his religion. A material inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible. Although the Likud government of Menachem Begin assured the Christian community that the law applied equally to all religions and did not specifically mention Christians, the United Christian Council of Israel charged that it was biased and aimed specifically at Christians since only Christians openly proselytized. Council representatives also cited anti-Christian speeches made in the parliament during debate on the law. Parliament member Binyamin Halevy had called missionaries “a cancer in the body of the nation.”

The next year Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, considered a political moderate, issued a religious ruling that copies of the New Testament should be torn out of any edition of a Bible owned by a Jew. Israeli scholar Yehoshafat Harkabi wrote that he was disturbed by “these manifestations of hostility-the designation of Christians as idolaters, the demand to invoke the ‘resident alien’ ordinances, and the burning of the New Testament.” Observed Harkabi: “Outside of the Land of Israel Jews never dared behave in this fashion. Has independence made the Jews take leave of their senses?”

Desecration of Christian property and churches—arson, window breaking, burning of the New Testament—had long marred relations between the two communities. A small but fanatical group of Jews wanted no Christians, whom they considered fallen Jews, in Israel. This virulent strain of prejudice had been present since before the Jewish state was founded.

For instance, after the capture by Jewish forces of Jaffa on May 13, 1948, two days before Israel’s birth, there was desecration of Christian churches. Father Deleque, a Catholic priest, reported: “Jewish soldiers broke down the doors of my church and robbed many precious and sacred objects. Then they threw the statues of Christ down into a nearby garden.” He added that Jewish leaders had reassured that religious buildings would be respected, “but their deeds do not correspond to their words.”

On May 31, 1948, a group of Christian leaders comprising the Christian Union of Palestine publicly complained that Jewish forces had used 10 Christian churches and humanitarian institutions in Jerusalem as military bases and otherwise desecrated them. They added that a total of 14 churches had suffered shell damage, which killed three priests and made casualties of more than 100 women and children.

The group’s statement said Arab forces had abided by their promise to respect Christian institutions, but that the Jews had forcefully occupied Christian structures and been indiscriminate in shelling churches. It said, among other charges, that “many children were killed or wounded” by Jewish shells on the Convent of Orthodox Copts on May 19, 23 and 24; that eight refugees were killed and about 120 wounded at the Orthodox Armenian Convent at some unstated date; and that Father Pierre Somi, secretary to the Bishop, had been killed and two wounded at the Orthodox Syrian Church of St. Mark on May 16.

Churches were again desecrated during the 1967 war when Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza, completing the occupation of all of Palestine. On July 21, 1967, the Reverend James L. Kelso, a former moderator of the United Presbyterian Church and long-time resident in Palestine, complained of extensive damage to churches adding: “So significant was this third Jewish war against the Arabs that one of the finest missionaries of the Near East called it ‘perhaps the most serious setback that Christendom has had since the fall of Constantinople in 1453.’”

Kelso continued: “How did Israel respect church property in the fighting...? They shot up the Episcopal Cathedral [in Jerusalem], just as they had done in 1948. They smashed down the Episcopal school for boys...The Israelis wrecked and looted the YMCA...They wrecked the big Lutheran hospital...The Lutheran center for cripples also suffered...”

Nancy Nolan, wife of a physician at the American University Hospital in Beirut, who was in Jerusalem during and after the fighting, charged that “while the Israeli authorities proclaim to the world that all religions will be respected and protected, and post notices identifying the Holy Places, Israeli soldiers and youths are throwing stink bombs in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.

“The Church of St. Anne, who crypt marks the birthplace of the Virgin Mary, has been severely damaged and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem also was damaged. The wanton killing of the Warden of the Garden Tomb followed by the shooting into the tomb itself, in an attempt to kill the warden’s wife, was another instance that we knew first-hand which illustrated the utter disregard shown by the occupation forces toward the Holy Places and the religious sensibilities of the people in Jordan and in the rest of the world.”

“The desecration of churches...includes smoking in the churches, littering the churches, taking dogs inside and entering in inappropriate manner of dress. Behavior such as this cannot be construed other than as a direct insult to the whole Christian world.”

Desecration has occurred not only in times of war. As recently as 1995, an Israeli soldier, Daniel Koren, 22, entered St. Anthony Catholic Church in Jaffa and went on a shooting rampage, firing more than 100 bullets in the altar and the cross above it but causing no injuries. Koren said his Judaic convictions forced him to destroy all physical images of God, and admitted that he had staged a prior attack in Jerusalem’s Gethsemane Church.

Perhaps the worst outbreak of organized desecration of Christian institutions came on Sept. 10, 1963, when hundreds of ultra-orthodox Jews simultaneously attacked Christian missions in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem. (One has to say “perhaps because reporting on this sensitive subject in the U.S. media has been so poor over the decades.) At any rate, the attacks were a concerted effort to intimidate Christians in Israel by a religious vigilante group called Hever Peelei Hamahane Hatorati, the Society of Activists of the Torah Camp. In an attack on the Church of Scotland school in Jaffa, Christian children were beaten and considerable damage was caused to the school by at least 200 rampaging Jews.

Other attacks occurred at two nearby church schools, the Greek Catholic missionary school of St. Joseph and a Christian Brothers school. In Jerusalem, attacks occurred at the St. Joseph convent and the Finnish Lutheran mission school. In Haifa, the American-European Beth El Messianic Mission Children’s Hostel and School was attacked. No serious damage occurred in any of the attacks except at the Scotland school. More than 100 Jews were convicted in the attacks, none of them receiving more than small fines and suspended sentences.

The first half of the 1980s, with Likud governments in control, was a particularly active period for Jewish bigots. On Oct. 8, 1982, the Baptist Church in Jerusalem was burned down. Kerosene had been sprinkled on the church’s wooden chapel, constructed in 1933. Although no one was ever charged in the arson, the Baptist Center’s bookstore had been vandalized a dozen times in previous years, and Jews were suspected. When the Baptists sought to rebuild the church, Jews demonstrated against the project and the Jewish district planning commission refused to grant a building permit. In 1985, the Israeli Supreme Court advised the Baptists to leave the all-Jewish area.

On Christmas Day in 1983, a hotel in Tiberias where Christians held meetings was set afire, the latest in a series of attacks on a small group of about 50 Christians. Two Jews were arrested in the arson incident. Other attacks included stones thrown through windows at the hotel while the group was meeting and break-ins at the homes of members of the group. The anti-missionary group Yad Le’Achim complained that Christian missionaries were offering money, clothes, jewelry and tennis shoes to listen to Christian lectures.

Just over a fortnight later, on Jan. 11, 1984, suspected Jewish extremists stacked hymnals on a piano in a Christian prayer room in Jerusalem and set them afire. Also in the same week angry Jews protesting Christian proselytizing caused Beth Shalom, a Christian evangelical group, to withdraw its plans to build a multimillion-dollar hotel in Jerusalem. Beth Shalom took its action after about 150 Jews showed up at a city council meeting with placards reading “You can’t buy me” and “I didn’t immigrate to live next door to missionaries.” A leader of the protest, Rabbi Moshe Berlinger, compared Christian missionaries to Trojan horses.

Jewish infringements on Christian rights became so bad by 1990 that on Dec. 20 the leaders of Christian churches in Jerusalem took the extraordinary decision to restrict Christmas celebrations to protest “the continuing sad state of affairs in our land,” including encroachment by Israel on traditional Christian institutions. Among concerns expressed by the patriarchs and heads of churches were attempts by Jewish settlers to move into the Old City and an “erosion of the traditional rights and centuries-old privileges of the churches,” including imposition by Israel of municipal and state taxes on the churches.

The statement added: “We express our deep concern over new problems confronting the local church. They interfere with the proper functioning of our religious institutions, and we call upon the civil authorities in the country to safeguard our historic rights and status honored by all governments.”

Anti-Christian prejudice helps account for the fact that the number of Christian Palestinians in all of former Palestine had dwindled to only 50,000 in 1995. They no longer were a major presence in either Jerusalem or Ramallah, and they were fast losing their majority status in Bethlehem.

When Israel was established in 1948, the Palestinian Christian community had numbered 200,000, compared to roughly 600,000 Jews in Palestine at the time. Now the Christians are not even one percent of the population of Israel/Palestine. Of today’s estimated total 400,000 Christian Palestinians, most now are living in their own diaspora"

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/rel-christians.html

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Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by SamIkenna: 2:13pm On Aug 19, 2014
pheliciti:
Christians Discriminated Against by Israel.

Dear Sir, you truly belief the excerpt above? It would shock to know that there are laws in Israel against evangelizing. People can organize conventions or go on pilgrimage in Israel. Let them organise a Nigerian style crusade and see what comes out of it. Please read the following report

‘Christians in the Holy Land’

By Donald Neff
Former Israel Bureau Chief for Time Magazine
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Israel

On Dec. 29, 1977, Christians in Israel and the occupied territories protested a new law passed by the Israeli parliament making it illegal for missionaries to proselytize Jews. Protestant churches charged that the law had been “hastily pushed through parliament during the Christmas period when Christians were busily engaged in preparing for and celebrating their major festival.” The law made missionaries liable to five years’ imprisonment for attempting to persuade people to change their religion, and three years’ imprisonment for any Jew who converted. The United Christian Council complained that the law could be “misused in restricting religious freedom in Israel.”

Donald Neff has been a journalist for forty years. He spent 16 years in service for Time Magazine and is a regular contributor to Middle East International and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. He is the author of five excellent books on the Middle East.
Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offering of “material inducement” for a person to change his religion. A material inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible. Although the Likud government of Menachem Begin assured the Christian community that the law applied equally to all religions and did not specifically mention Christians, the United Christian Council of Israel charged that it was biased and aimed specifically at Christians since only Christians openly proselytized. Council representatives also cited anti-Christian speeches made in the parliament during debate on the law. Parliament member Binyamin Halevy had called missionaries “a cancer in the body of the nation.”

The next year Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, considered a political moderate, issued a religious ruling that copies of the New Testament should be torn out of any edition of a Bible owned by a Jew. Israeli scholar Yehoshafat Harkabi wrote that he was disturbed by “these manifestations of hostility-the designation of Christians as idolaters, the demand to invoke the ‘resident alien’ ordinances, and the burning of the New Testament.” Observed Harkabi: “Outside of the Land of Israel Jews never dared behave in this fashion. Has independence made the Jews take leave of their senses?”

Desecration of Christian property and churches—arson, window breaking, burning of the New Testament—had long marred relations between the two communities. A small but fanatical group of Jews wanted no Christians, whom they considered fallen Jews, in Israel. This virulent strain of prejudice had been present since before the Jewish state was founded.

For instance, after the capture by Jewish forces of Jaffa on May 13, 1948, two days before Israel’s birth, there was desecration of Christian churches. Father Deleque, a Catholic priest, reported: “Jewish soldiers broke down the doors of my church and robbed many precious and sacred objects. Then they threw the statues of Christ down into a nearby garden.” He added that Jewish leaders had reassured that religious buildings would be respected, “but their deeds do not correspond to their words.”

On May 31, 1948, a group of Christian leaders comprising the Christian Union of Palestine publicly complained that Jewish forces had used 10 Christian churches and humanitarian institutions in Jerusalem as military bases and otherwise desecrated them. They added that a total of 14 churches had suffered shell damage, which killed three priests and made casualties of more than 100 women and children.

The group’s statement said Arab forces had abided by their promise to respect Christian institutions, but that the Jews had forcefully occupied Christian structures and been indiscriminate in shelling churches. It said, among other charges, that “many children were killed or wounded” by Jewish shells on the Convent of Orthodox Copts on May 19, 23 and 24; that eight refugees were killed and about 120 wounded at the Orthodox Armenian Convent at some unstated date; and that Father Pierre Somi, secretary to the Bishop, had been killed and two wounded at the Orthodox Syrian Church of St. Mark on May 16.

Churches were again desecrated during the 1967 war when Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza, completing the occupation of all of Palestine. On July 21, 1967, the Reverend James L. Kelso, a former moderator of the United Presbyterian Church and long-time resident in Palestine, complained of extensive damage to churches adding: “So significant was this third Jewish war against the Arabs that one of the finest missionaries of the Near East called it ‘perhaps the most serious setback that Christendom has had since the fall of Constantinople in 1453.’”

Kelso continued: “How did Israel respect church property in the fighting...? They shot up the Episcopal Cathedral [in Jerusalem], just as they had done in 1948. They smashed down the Episcopal school for boys...The Israelis wrecked and looted the YMCA...They wrecked the big Lutheran hospital...The Lutheran center for cripples also suffered...”

Nancy Nolan, wife of a physician at the American University Hospital in Beirut, who was in Jerusalem during and after the fighting, charged that “while the Israeli authorities proclaim to the world that all religions will be respected and protected, and post notices identifying the Holy Places, Israeli soldiers and youths are throwing stink bombs in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.

“The Church of St. Anne, who crypt marks the birthplace of the Virgin Mary, has been severely damaged and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem also was damaged. The wanton killing of the Warden of the Garden Tomb followed by the shooting into the tomb itself, in an attempt to kill the warden’s wife, was another instance that we knew first-hand which illustrated the utter disregard shown by the occupation forces toward the Holy Places and the religious sensibilities of the people in Jordan and in the rest of the world.”

“The desecration of churches...includes smoking in the churches, littering the churches, taking dogs inside and entering in inappropriate manner of dress. Behavior such as this cannot be construed other than as a direct insult to the whole Christian world.”

Desecration has occurred not only in times of war. As recently as 1995, an Israeli soldier, Daniel Koren, 22, entered St. Anthony Catholic Church in Jaffa and went on a shooting rampage, firing more than 100 bullets in the altar and the cross above it but causing no injuries. Koren said his Judaic convictions forced him to destroy all physical images of God, and admitted that he had staged a prior attack in Jerusalem’s Gethsemane Church.

Perhaps the worst outbreak of organized desecration of Christian institutions came on Sept. 10, 1963, when hundreds of ultra-orthodox Jews simultaneously attacked Christian missions in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem. (One has to say “perhaps because reporting on this sensitive subject in the U.S. media has been so poor over the decades.) At any rate, the attacks were a concerted effort to intimidate Christians in Israel by a religious vigilante group called Hever Peelei Hamahane Hatorati, the Society of Activists of the Torah Camp. In an attack on the Church of Scotland school in Jaffa, Christian children were beaten and considerable damage was caused to the school by at least 200 rampaging Jews.

Other attacks occurred at two nearby church schools, the Greek Catholic missionary school of St. Joseph and a Christian Brothers school. In Jerusalem, attacks occurred at the St. Joseph convent and the Finnish Lutheran mission school. In Haifa, the American-European Beth El Messianic Mission Children’s Hostel and School was attacked. No serious damage occurred in any of the attacks except at the Scotland school. More than 100 Jews were convicted in the attacks, none of them receiving more than small fines and suspended sentences.

The first half of the 1980s, with Likud governments in control, was a particularly active period for Jewish bigots. On Oct. 8, 1982, the Baptist Church in Jerusalem was burned down. Kerosene had been sprinkled on the church’s wooden chapel, constructed in 1933. Although no one was ever charged in the arson, the Baptist Center’s bookstore had been vandalized a dozen times in previous years, and Jews were suspected. When the Baptists sought to rebuild the church, Jews demonstrated against the project and the Jewish district planning commission refused to grant a building permit. In 1985, the Israeli Supreme Court advised the Baptists to leave the all-Jewish area.

On Christmas Day in 1983, a hotel in Tiberias where Christians held meetings was set afire, the latest in a series of attacks on a small group of about 50 Christians. Two Jews were arrested in the arson incident. Other attacks included stones thrown through windows at the hotel while the group was meeting and break-ins at the homes of members of the group. The anti-missionary group Yad Le’Achim complained that Christian missionaries were offering money, clothes, jewelry and tennis shoes to listen to Christian lectures.

Just over a fortnight later, on Jan. 11, 1984, suspected Jewish extremists stacked hymnals on a piano in a Christian prayer room in Jerusalem and set them afire. Also in the same week angry Jews protesting Christian proselytizing caused Beth Shalom, a Christian evangelical group, to withdraw its plans to build a multimillion-dollar hotel in Jerusalem. Beth Shalom took its action after about 150 Jews showed up at a city council meeting with placards reading “You can’t buy me” and “I didn’t immigrate to live next door to missionaries.” A leader of the protest, Rabbi Moshe Berlinger, compared Christian missionaries to Trojan horses.

Jewish infringements on Christian rights became so bad by 1990 that on Dec. 20 the leaders of Christian churches in Jerusalem took the extraordinary decision to restrict Christmas celebrations to protest “the continuing sad state of affairs in our land,” including encroachment by Israel on traditional Christian institutions. Among concerns expressed by the patriarchs and heads of churches were attempts by Jewish settlers to move into the Old City and an “erosion of the traditional rights and centuries-old privileges of the churches,” including imposition by Israel of municipal and state taxes on the churches.

The statement added: “We express our deep concern over new problems confronting the local church. They interfere with the proper functioning of our religious institutions, and we call upon the civil authorities in the country to safeguard our historic rights and status honored by all governments.”

Anti-Christian prejudice helps account for the fact that the number of Christian Palestinians in all of former Palestine had dwindled to only 50,000 in 1995. They no longer were a major presence in either Jerusalem or Ramallah, and they were fast losing their majority status in Bethlehem.

When Israel was established in 1948, the Palestinian Christian community had numbered 200,000, compared to roughly 600,000 Jews in Palestine at the time. Now the Christians are not even one percent of the population of Israel/Palestine. Of today’s estimated total 400,000 Christian Palestinians, most now are living in their own diaspora"

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/rel-christians.html

It seems you're missing the point which is: All religions are intolerant, but some are more intolerant than others. Therefore, I do not see why Jews or Judaism should be receiving undue attention from extremists whose faiths are deeply immersed in ignoble gore and whose adherents are un-apologetically fatalistic. This is akin to kettle calling pot black.

Today, there're about 15 to 18 million Jews as opposed to 1.5 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians in the world. Do the math and tell me who's endangered... Israel is protecting itself - plain and simple. What it's doing is no different than, in fact even better than, what you'ld do if you were in their shoes. Some time ago I read how the Etsu Nupe 'secured' an Igbo 'convert' from her father who happens to be a pastor. We all saw how tempers flared and Christian folks were enraged. Is that any different?

My point is still the same and its this: All religions, especially foreign religions, are mutually intolerant. Even within the religions the same intolerance is sometimes worse. Tell us what comes to mind when you think of Shia and Sunni..., British protestants and Irish Catholics.... Do you pretend not to know why Lebanon engulfed itself in mutual religious vendetta for over 15 years swallowing innocent men, women, and children as Beirut imploded? What was that? Religious love and harmony? Did you not read how Iranian govt burnt a non-Muslim's lips with hot cigarette during Ramadan for not observing fast? These same people and their bed-fellows (Arab wannabes and gutless neo-liberals) would rather feign amnesia on the sacrilegious intolerance committed by terrorists and adherents of 'religion of peace' but as soon as Jews are mentioned, like a weak bull with a shot in the arm, they jump back to life.

Now tell me why Iran and Pakistan refer to their nations as 'Islamic republics' whereas not all their citizens are Muslims? Is that not exclusive and discriminatory? But let Israel call her nation a Jewish state..... in a flash you see every 'ball-less' liberal and hypocritical Islamist up in arms and questioning why a democracy should include or support a particular religion. What a joke!

Few weeks ago a band of misguided Dutch Muslims went on a protest against Israel with placards that show open support for ISIL terrorists in Iraq. They had posters that openly displayed severed heads of 'infidels' in a land that accorded them freedom yet they desecrate it with hate and intolerance. But folks would rather have us turn a blind eye on that and have Jews impaled because some bad Jews spat on Greek and Armenian Christians, or that Israel enacted laws that outlawed open 'proselytization.'

In the end the truth is that Judaism or Jews cannot be considered the most intolerant religion or people. That title belongs elsewhere and you know it. The reason people overlook the belligerent title holder boils down to my earlier assertion: hypocrisy!
Re: Christians In Jerusalem Want Jews To Stop Spitting On Them by SalC: 4:21pm On Aug 19, 2014
There is a big difference between being spat on and being beheaded. Whereas Jews spit on Christians, muslims behead them.

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