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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by dblest1: 5:23pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:

You are making the wrong comment.....the question you should be asking is why Nigerian leaders have not invested enough in scientific and educational research so that we can produce our answer to Zmapp for ebola.

The US owes you nothing.



naah!! you are asking for d IMPOSSIBLE!
stop building castles in d air. wen wat u want ain't available, den Wats available bcoms wat u desperately want.
comprehende?
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by king1234: 5:30pm On Aug 21, 2014
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Smily202(m): 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2014
Hmmm. ...
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by anonimi: 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2014
BRAV0O: Kudos to human race!

We've being through a lot , it as not being easy to be who we are

Ebola! Like any other disease, we'll get over you even to that extend of taking paracetamol to cure the virus

And america! Hope you have not started to giving ur ebola patients our pesticides ? Talk true !


It is true that we Nigerians like other black people are individually, equally gifted members of the human race as our longer-nosed fellow homo sapiens.
However the TRUTH remains that we have contributed NOTHING to any of the aspects of modern life & living, which we SHAMELESSLY enjoy yanfu, yanfu. Simply look around you shocked
BTW, where did you get OUR pesticide from

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 5:35pm On Aug 21, 2014
dblest1:



naah!! you are asking for d IMPOSSIBLE!
stop building castles in d air. wen wat u want ain't available, den Wats available bcoms wat u desperately want.
comprehende?

At which time I will refer you to the article quoted below......and also give you one piece of advice.; Never ever give up.

If South Korea and China could go from worse than Nigeria to first world countries..........why not Nigeria.?

1. The drug has only been made for lab tests so far – not for countering an epidemic

Less than 100 doses of the drug are currently available. So far the ZMapp serum has only been manufactured in quantities suitable for small-scale tests – most recently on 20 monkeys.

However, it is effective – in limited animal tests so far ZMapp has been successful. When administered to monkeys one hour after infection, all animals survived. Two-thirds of the animals were protected even when the ZMapp treatment was administered 48 hours after infection.


2. ZMapp is made by a small San Diego pharmaceutical company, with only 9 employees

Mapp has only nine employees – to put that into perspective, pharma giant Pfizer has 78,000. Mapp just doesn’t immediately have the capacity to scale up.

“The manufacturer has been planning for phase 1 clinical trials and does not have the capacity to manufacture large quantities of the treatment,” says the US Center for Disease Control.


3. It’s not just a case of mixing some chemicals together

More importantly, making ZMapp is not a case of swirling some chemicals together in a test-tube. The monoclonal antibodies in ZMapp have to be produced from specially-grown and harvested cells.

I hope you read the article.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by anonimi: 5:37pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:

You are making the wrong comment.....the question you should be asking is why Nigerian leaders have not invested enough in scientific and educational research so that we can produce our answer to Zmapp for ebola.

The US owes you nothing.

It is not simply about leaders only. We followers have the larger part of the blame.
In short, the leaders are no more than a reflection of our aggregate values at any particular time.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by BRAV0O(m): 5:38pm On Aug 21, 2014
cheesy cheesy you funny chai! Remember nau ' that pesticide the ebola cure , can't remember what they call it ...
anonimi:

It is true that we Nigerians like other black people are individually, equally gifted members of the human race as our longer-nosed fellow homo sapiens. However the TRUTH remains that we have contributed NOTHING to any of the aspects of modern life & living, which we SHAMELESSLY enjoy yanfu, yanfu. Simply look around you shocked
BTW, where did you get OUR pesticide from
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 5:39pm On Aug 21, 2014
anonimi:

It is not simply about leaders only. We followers have the larger part of the blame. In short, the leaders are no more than a reflection of our aggregate values at any particular time.

I concur....

As I told someone else on another thread....we vote them in...then we go home and sit down....forgetting that in a democracy....voting is just one half of the job.The other half is to remind the elected leader why we voted him or her in constantly.....so that s/he would get scared and perform!

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ceejayluv(m): 5:44pm On Aug 21, 2014
hotmolo: U. S. Treating der citizens with zmap while refusing to let us hav there's and calling ours a pesticide. Well atleast we know they have the cure. Am happy for the doctor.
www.nairaland.com/1867468/nanosilver-not-cure-ebola-manufacturer#25659935

Shut up...

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 5:44pm On Aug 21, 2014
Goodnews...So gud to hearsmiley
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by mbulela: 5:50pm On Aug 21, 2014
FutureDon: Great news. I think it is now safe to say that ZMapp is tested and trusted.

What of the 10% who did not die from ebola without taking Zmapp?
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by lastpage: 5:52pm On Aug 21, 2014
slimdiggi: Why is this news to us? Our own doctor died...

Exactly my Thoughts!

Our Doctor was sick, their own Doctors were also sick!
Both require treatment.

They allowed their own Doctors to use the "risky experimental ZMapp" ..and he eventually got healed.
We requested for just a few doses to treat our own God-given Dr. Adadeivo ....but they refused to share it with us!

Instead, they sent it to Liberia.

Now, our own Doctor has died (and for every Doctor that dies, many lives will follow, as she could have saved close to 50,000 lives in her life-time, she she were to be ALIVE!)

Honestly, if we are half as smart as the Apes which the White Americans call us, we would begin to IMPROVE OURSELVES and CHOSE OUR FRIENDS CAREFULLY!

Lastpage!

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by lastpage: 5:52pm On Aug 21, 2014
[size=18pt]Dr. Ameyo Adadeivo[/size], that you laid down your life, to save millions of Nigerians who would have been infected and consequently die if that Devil of a Mr. Sawyer was allowed to escape, (just like he escaped Quarantine in Liberia, to infect Nigerians), will be remembered in the hearts of this generation and those to come.

Where your soul is now, l cannot access but l know the Lord remembers every 'good deed' and yours was second only to that of Jesus Christ! [size=18pt] cry cry cry cry cry cry [/size]
[size=14pt]I declare you A SAINT right away! YOU are my Hero, forever[/size]!


Love you to bits kiss kiss kiss kiss ..... but rest in the bosom of the Lord.

Lastpage!

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by morefire: 5:53pm On Aug 21, 2014
Lobolintin: 4uck them US... Keep ur drugs, and 4ck up.. We will develop something stronger soon.. And kudos to you Dr..

oya go and develop now.. dem hold you

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by dljbd1(m): 5:54pm On Aug 21, 2014
This is good news to those thinking of drinking and bathing with salt grin

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by englishmart(m): 5:55pm On Aug 21, 2014
That white man I see, looks like Gerard pique
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Lucasbalo(m): 5:58pm On Aug 21, 2014
ayox2003:

The intellectual laziness that affects us and kills us to the point where we become unnecessarily proud in our folly is just tiring. Heck, they've invested in research.

Go ram yourself as I'm sure you wouldn't even be able to post anything here if the US military had not invested the Internet! The same US you blame for government lapses. lipsrsealed


Frawzey
Gbam and 1 billion likes.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:03pm On Aug 21, 2014
lastpage:

Exactly my Thoughts!

Our Doctor was sick, their own Doctors were also sick!
Both require treatment.

They allowed their own Doctors to use the "risky experimental ZMapp" ..and he eventually got healed.
We requested for just a few doses to treat our own God-given Dr. Adadeivo ....but they refused to share it with us!

Instead, they sent it to Liberia.

Now, our own Doctor has died (and for every Doctor that dies, many lives will follow, as she could have saved close to 50,000 lives in her life-time, she she were to be ALIVE!)

Honestly, if we are half as smart as the Apes which the White Americans call us, we would begin to IMPROVE OURSELVES and CHOSE OUR FRIENDS CAREFULLY!

Lastpage!


There is a reason why Zmapp is limited.......and this article does a good job of explaining it.

Excerpt below...

3. It’s not just a case of mixing some chemicals together

More importantly, making ZMapp is not a case of swirling some chemicals together in a test-tube. The monoclonal antibodies in ZMapp have to be produced from specially-grown and harvested cells.

The special cells were initially made by fusing human cells with those taken from a mouse infected with ebola. After careful nurturing and selection, cells able to produce antibodies are cloned.

These hybrid cells are then placed inside tobacco leaves. Why leaves? They act as a nurturing environment where the cells can reproduce and thrive. Initially mice were used to produce the antibody-rich liquid. Using leaves is quicker and cheaper.

But even then, it’s not just a case of squeezing the leaves out – once the liquid is extracted from the leaves, it has to be purified and tested for strength.

Then the antibodies have to be modified to be more acceptable to the human immune system.

4. The tobacco plants used in production take a month to grow

Tobacco plants have to be about a month old before they can be infected with the antibody cells. And then producing the antibody could take two weeks. A whole new batch will have to be commissioned and the agreement of the tobacco company who owns the plants will also have to be negotiated, especially if there is a drastic increase in the number of plants needed.

The current production pipeline is only set up to create a small amount. Gearing up to produce larger quantities would have to start immediately, with several months until the final product is ready.

Add in harvesting and purifying the antibodies and the New York Times says the total time is several months.

Dr. Fauci of the Infectious Diseases Institute told the New York Times that even the current process in train won’t produce huge numbers of the serum. “You’re not talking about thousands of doses or even hundreds of doses,” he said.

But once production is running at full tilt, it can keep going at that rate.

“Starting from zero and going to 60 is not so easy, but once you’re at sixty you can keep going at that rate,” Dr. Whaley said. He would not say how many doses could be made and how quickly.
Also....why should our doctors (or the Liberian doctors )get Zmapp....and not one of the hundreds of sick people

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:03pm On Aug 21, 2014
[size=28pt]Propaganda - he never had Ebola[/size]
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Lucasbalo(m): 6:04pm On Aug 21, 2014
sexzskil: AMERICA- The hope of human race since 1830!
Gbam. The hope of human race since 1776.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by ceejayluv(m): 6:07pm On Aug 21, 2014
lastpage:

Exactly my Thoughts!

Our Doctor was sick, their own Doctors were also sick!
Both require treatment.

They allowed their own Doctors to use the "risky experimental ZMapp" ..and he eventually got healed.
We requested for just a few doses to treat our own God-given Dr. Adadeivo ....but they refused to share it with us!

Instead, they sent it to Liberia.

Now, our own Doctor has died (and for every Doctor that dies, many lives will follow, as she could have saved close to 50,000 lives in her life-time, she she were to be ALIVE!)

Honestly, if we are half as smart as the Apes which the White Americans call us, we would begin to IMPROVE OURSELVES and CHOSE OUR FRIENDS CAREFULLY!

Lastpage!

Mind you, officials from American Centre for Disease Control were fully on ground in Lagos giving expert advice on viral isolation procedures.

On another note, one of the three doses of zmapp in Liberia was giving to a Nigerian doctor infected there...

Thirdly they warned us accordingly when we were about to be scammed by some American colloidal silver manufacturer.
There are countless volunteers from the West in the ebola ravaged countries helping to check the outbreak...

Lastly, Americans identified ebola and have invested millions of dollars and resources to get a cure or vaccine for a disease that is not endemic in their own land.
They've done enough, man....

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Lucasbalo(m): 6:07pm On Aug 21, 2014
buJu234: can u see what having a good govt. that develops her country can do..

jst simple health facilities and a diligent research team...

SHAME TO ALL AFRICAN LEADERS BOTH PAST & PRESENT excluding Mandela, Julius Nyeyere etc
Thanks for that observation . Poverty of mind is the problem in Nigeria. Like you stated, difference between 1st world country and a third world country.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:14pm On Aug 21, 2014
GenBuhari: [size=28pt]Propaganda - he never had Ebola[/size]

He did....here is the reason why he survivied

[size=17pt]1.He had early supportive treatment....recommendations by WHO state that as soon as the patient is diagnosed....the treatment with IV fluids, antibiotics, etc must start early.

2.Patients with a particular immune response do better than those without that particular response. That was the result of a study done on Gabonese patients.; in brief patients with an Immunoglobulin type M based response survive.

Also, those who are deficient in the NPC-1 receptor on their cells survive Ebola.

3.Finally, the patient recieved an infusion of serum from the survivor of Ebola fever....a young black Liberian.

4.And it must be noted he was one of several hundred survivors......
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No conspiracy.....just some good science .

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Lucasbalo(m): 6:17pm On Aug 21, 2014
Dee60: Why blame America for using American drug to treat An American?

When are we going to wake from slumber and to remember that life is more than just embezzling funds and transferring them the stolen funds abroad?

Where does America and Britain get the funds to develop their countries? Are those funds not partly from the monies Africans stow away in their banks?

We have to wake up and use our brains.
You are spot on. Let any of this useless Nigerians in power or their oligarch partners in corruption develop any kind of sickness , they run abroad for treatment in a second. Their lap dogs in Nigeria are suffering and smiling while the whole country is going down everyday . America uses their wealth to improve their country while Nigeria's wealth is being shared by few cabals like a family property . God wiil judge all that have make Nigeria a laughing stock in the community of nations.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:18pm On Aug 21, 2014
Lobolintin: 4uck them US... Keep ur drugs, and 4ck up.. We will develop something stronger soon.. And kudos to you Dr..

how? oh, i forget - Nairaland ebola contest is coming up. Seun, take not(ic)e
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:21pm On Aug 21, 2014
GenBuhari: [size=28pt]Propaganda - he never had Ebola[/size]

Let me tell you something. all these your conspiracy theories are beginning to sound silly and trite.
So, all the people who have died in Liberia never had ebola too abi? Patrick sawyer never had ebola, abi? this doctor that was taking care of ebola patients never had ebola abi? I have nothing more to say.

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by desy24444(m): 6:21pm On Aug 21, 2014
meldeezyne: ABIDJAN (Reuters) - An American doctor who contracted Ebola treating victims of the deadly virus in Liberia has been released from a U.S. hospital after receiving treatment with an experimental drug, his charity said on Thursday. Kent Brantly was given ZMapp, a trial drug used on a handful of patients in the West African outbreak, and flown to the United States this month. He was released from Atlanta's Emory University Hospital, according to a statement from Samaritan's Purse. (Reporting by Joe Bavier; Editing by Daniel Flynn and John Stonestreet)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/21/us-health-ebola-american-idUSKBN0GL0W020140821
USA got d cure for dis ebola disease.they want 2 use it as a weapon

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Debrothz(m): 6:24pm On Aug 21, 2014
I still prefer our Nano Silver to Us poo zmapp, if u want to no more about Nano silver go to Google, our nano silver is not toxic, is has been used as a dietary supplement nd is still in use till date, congrat to d Dr shall
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by kstyle2(m): 6:25pm On Aug 21, 2014
Good news....
Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:27pm On Aug 21, 2014
bushdoc9919:



Also....why should our doctors (or the Liberian doctors )get Zmapp....and not one of the hundreds of sick people

This is an ethical question and a very important one at that. there is no right answer and policy makers always have to meet and deliberate on issues like this every single time they are faced with it. no textbook readymade guideline. however, there are a few reasons why you might want to give the doctors (or other healthcare workers). First is that they probably would not have contracted the disease if they were not caring for already infected people to start with. So given the fact that they chose to put their lives on the line despite knowing the risk involved, they should get priority. secondly, if you were to save one doctor, he could potentially go on to save a whole lot of other patients but if you saved a patient, he is not much use to other patients so the patients in the long run are not better off. this is sometimes called the utilitarian approach, where you seek to maximise the benefits given limited resources

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by VantagePoint: 6:28pm On Aug 21, 2014
hotmolo: U. S. Treating der citizens with zmap while refusing to let us hav there's and calling ours a pesticide. Well atleast we know they have the cure. Am happy for the doctor.
For the umpteenth time, nanosilver is not "ours" !

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Re: American Doctor Treated For Ebola Released From The Hospital by Nobody: 6:30pm On Aug 21, 2014
Ebola epidemic in West Africa is a hoax

Can you imagine that all this publicity and hysteria is because 3 or four people have allegedly died from an alleged disease that is allegedly less contagious than measles? and less deadly than rabies.


Shine your eyes.

The reason the american Doctors "survived" is to promote the experimental vaccines / drugs or whatever, they want to use to experiment on a panicked Nigeria / West Africa either for the purposes of find willing experimental laboratory "guinea pigs" to test dangerous medicines on or to eventually make profits selling us dangerous fake vaccines which lead to far more actual deaths than the hoaxed deaths they are claiming Ebola is responsible for.
bushdoc9919:

He did....here is the reason why he survivied

[size=17pt]1.He had early supportive treatment....recommendations by WHO state that as soon as the patient is diagnosed....the treatment with IV fluids, antibiotics, etc must start early.

2.Patients with a particular immune response do better than those without that particular response. That was the result of a study done on Gabonese patients.; in brief patients with an Immunoglobulin type M based response survive.

Also, those who are deficient in the NPC-1 receptor on their cells survive Ebola.

3.Finally, the patient recieved an infusion of serum from the survivor of Ebola fever....a young black Liberian.

4.And it must be noted he was one of several hundred survivors......
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No conspiracy.....just some good science .

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