doctokwus: So if for e.g,american troops enter mexico,dey wud surrender all their weapons to d mexicans.Which competent miltary force evn surrenders any inch of its territory to a terrorist organisation.Again,to show dat dis pr by d military hq might be a lie,y didn't d troops retreat back into a part of d nigerian territory.
D only gud news frm dis disastrous campaign is dat its becoming evident dat dat nigeria shudnt av bn united in d first place,dose far north are too different in many ways to share d same country wt saner minds elsewhere in nigeria.

whatlyf: Thanks for the clarification. As a patriotic citizen I ignored the defection "news" waiting for the Military's official statement. I believe in the capability of the Military in combating the insurgency, I hope for more wisdom to the President and Military High Command. To those that deliberately or unconsciously gv moral and psychological support to the insurgents through your comments and statements, I urge you to have a deep rethink on the effect of such actions on the morale of the military, our nation's security and our territoral integrity.


God bless the Military
God bless the C-in-C
God bless Nigeria

SirShymex:

That's naij for you - Christian and Muslim divide and their innate hatred for each other.

However, you just need to overlook that and read the message.

Apparently, the guy said he used to work for Nigerian intelligence agency and he's legit, based on where I first saw the link on another sitrep website for things going on around the world. It's an investigative journalism website and they always vet their contributors.

whatlyf: Thanks for the clarification. As a patriotic citizen I ignored the defection "news" waiting for the Military's official statement. I believe in the capability of the Military in combating the insurgency, I hope for more wisdom to the President and Military High Command. To those that deliberately or unconsciously gv moral and psychological support to the insurgents through your comments and statements, I urge you to have a deep rethink on the effect of such actions on the morale of the military, our nation's security and our territoral integrity.


God bless the Military
God bless the C-in-C
God bless Nigeria

Phame: u ar jst too slow to detect a lie. NA that allowed bh to attack and retreat to cameroon, and made no attempt to follow them down is now saying d officers crossed border in d course of fighting and u believe them.

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darqly:

And I still counter- what munitions did you see that left you so impressed?
I refuse to believe bokoharam has a more robust media presence than the Nigerian army albeit they use the media far more effectively.
Lastly, forget those 'few rolls' you mentioned. Unless we're watching different videos, the suppressing gunfire that BH unleashes against our positions ought to have exhausted whatever limited supply you assert they have. The army post BH attacked in garkida was totally decimated and had at least 4 pickup trucks, some fitted with GPMGs, blown up. Why don't you digest that for a bit and tell me what BH has that Nigerian army obviously lacks.

arresa: Even nollywood go return this story back to sender...

Military lies, government lies the whole administration breath and eat lies....

Very shameful and pathetic..

Nigerdeltaboi:
needless arguing with you take it o leave it

groovie: How can any sane person even compare the Gendarmes with the NA? Except they have support of the french they are no match anyday anytime. And some people here saying bokoharam have tanks? Mtcheew. I pray u guys never see war. Do u know wat damage a tank can do?

komekn: There is a current co-operation and joint multi national forces agreement with Chad , Niger and Cameroon that was instituted through Holland in Paris a few moths ago.

Part of that process has seen cross border patrols and joint operations, it would be expected that there would be occasional but regular cross border incursions into each other's territories in pursuit of Boko Haram insurgents. There would be no requirement therefore for a surrender of weapons from such incursions which are co-operative and not hostile.

I am baffled beyond reason as the explanations presented by the NA just do not stand up to rational appraisal, I'm sorry but I find these propositions of events to be questionable, particularly a we have known the NA to tell blatant lies and then when caught retract their earlier statements.

Lets see as the real truth unfolds

OrlandoOwoh: Se awon were yi ro pe okola ni gbogbo wa abi Ode Omu l'ati wa?

whatlyf: Must you be political? What has TAN got to do with the military? I am one of Jonathan's biggest critics when it comes to his leadership style and his administration but I will ALWAYS support him when it comes to National Security and the Wellbeing of the citizenry. We shouldn't play politics with National Security. In fact opposition and everyone must queue behind the President and the Military against insurgency and terrorism. I have faith that we shall end this war sooner than expected

raphael1234: kini ara odeomu se fun o?

ratiken: When I read comments from here, I seem not to understand why some folks are quick to acknowledge and believe news from the propaganda stables of Bokoharam but will always doubt statements from the defence headquarters. Are they really for a win against this insurgency I always ask?

I keep saying our enemies are the west. BBC was quick to peddle unsubstantiated false news. All professionalism have been thrown out by BBC, AFP, CNN all in a bid to quickly propagate negative news in Nigeria.

Nigeria, behold your true enemies.

SirShymex:

Read the link you posted again, and this time, read it carefully while paying attention to detail. And do you even know what "desert" is?

1). Russian isn't a friendly country with the Kiev regime, and there's absolutely no way those guys would've been "forced" into Russian territory, without them expecting the Russian to shoot at sight and kill them off, especially when the Russians were having military drills there during that period. So, they would've alerted the Russians before taking whatever actions they took.

2). A battalion is enough to fight through enemy fire, to find a way to reconnect with soldiers, without necessarily crossing over to a hostile country and surrendering there. Especially when the Ukrainian rebels they're fighting aren't that many as well.

3). Why did they all seek asylum in Russia and not return back to Ukraine?

Dexema:
Una be wizkid?..bak to the matter jare

deeobserver209:

Some of the commenters especially in the other thread are showing sympathy to Boko Haram because of their mis guided hate for GEJ. It beats my imagination really.
When Alshabab terrorist group attacked Kenya, the whole citizens
rallied round their President and gave him total support to deal with the terrorists group. That's patriotism on display. Sadly that's not the case here. Of course, everyone has the right to like or dislike GEJ. But when it comes to the point where bad reports about their own country is rejoiced over and admired, then it becomes entirely something else. What we see here is hatred on a massive scale to the point where any bad development about Nigerian troops whether true or not are celebrated. An act some of them believe will further ruin the image Goodluck Jonathan. Their hatred has clouded their sense of reason. It has made them very unpatriotic.
Let me give you a case scenario. I support PDP. I want PDP to capture Lagos in 2015. But my support for PDP cannot mean that I am totally against the government of Lagos State. That shouldn't mean that I wish Lagos State government a miserable time in governance.
Let's look at the case of Ebola for instance. As a PDP supporter I will never wish for Ebola to wreck more havoc on Lagos State just because the Lagos State government is APC. I will never wish that the deadly virus kill more Lagos citizens just so that the image of Babatunde Fashola be brutalized. Why will I want to support an epidemic that could threatened the lives of millions of people just because Fashola is the governor of Lagos? That would be wicked!
It's the same thing playing out here. Some individual's hatred for Goodluck Jonathan has made them sympathisers of Boko Haram not minding the fact that the terrorists themselves are criminals that destroyed properties and KILLED thousands of innocent lives over the years.

groovie:
chief, bokoharam don't have rules of engagement, they are not afraid of humanitarian backlashes, they are not careful not to start a civil war, they can go in anywhere and use all they got. The Nigerian army cant do that. That is the major problem. Fire power isn't the problem. The need to buy more equipments isn't fire power, its the need for more tactical gear, so they can pick targets out more easily with less civilian casualties. Anytime you guys keep trying to portray that bh has more fire power, you are improving their morale, that's the truth. Just sit back and think through, the Nigerian army is well trained, although there are bad eggs, and they have what it takes, only their hands are tied. Haven't you ever wondered why Nigerian peace keeping forces always lead in Africa?

deeobserver209:
You made very good points.

deji68: I read it carefully just like u did...about "desert" according to
Wiki
"In military terminology, desertion is the abandonment of a duty or post without permission (a pass, liberty or leave) and is done with the intention of not returning.".....Russian said most of the 500 soldier returned home..so is that desertation ?

your first point..yeah Russia and ukrain are not best of friends..What about a scenenario where the Ukrainian troops chased some separatist into Russia, and were captured by the russian.? Russian now using that as propanganda to demoralize the ukranian army?

abot ur second point The ukrainian Authourity will not admit they are making millitary incursion into Russian territory...Official statement our soldier ran out of ammo and mistakenly strayed into ur land.

about your last point i did not read any part where Russia gave asylum to the Ukrainian soldiers in the link attached to my post..infact the official statement today is some of the soldiers have returned home.

By the way 9 russian paratrooper "Mistakenly crossed" into Ukrain....official russian statement....The ukranian stance is the opposite..

"The first casualty of war is truth" ...Hiram Johnson

SirShymex:

You're still not making sense.

Where is the "tactical manoeuvre" in everything you posted up there? I'd say you further proved me right that they deserted. And the update on the news today is that they were with thousands of civilians who were also fleeing the BH onslaught.

As for the Russian border guards - they were arrested by the Ukrainians for territorial violation. So were the Nigerian troops also arrested by the Cameroonians? If so, why didn't the Nigerian defence hq allude to that, rather than claim fictitious ""tactical manoeuvre?"

deji68: Let leave it at that u are not making any sense either...from "asylum" , to "tactical manoeuvre"....goalpost keeps changing... it is a free world u can believe what u like....

438 Ukrainian troops seek asylum in Russia; government passes ‘war tax’

According to both Ukrainian and Russian news sources, several hundred solders were left without weapons or ammunition and crossed the border into Russia.

The Ukrainian news suggests that this was a forced withdrawal after being routed by rebel forces. The Russian news suggests that the troops were seeking asylum, no doubt tired of war.
http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/438-ukrainian-troops-seek-asylum-in-russia-government-passes-war-tax-14822/

Ukrainian troops cross into Russia to avoid fighting, talks underway

In Moscow, authorities acknowledged that Ukrainian troops had crossed into Russian territory - though they put the number at 438 - and Russian border guards said they had crossed during the night seeking asylum.

"They were tired of the war and wanted no further part in it," Vasily Malayev, spokesman for the border guards in the Rostov region of Russia, told Reuters by telephone. However, he added that 180 would be returned to Ukraine later on Monday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/04/us-ukraine-crisis-east-idUSKBN0G40YI20140804

SirShymex:

It's obvious you have reading and comprehension problems.

You cited Ukrainian soldiers to buttress your point - and I asserted that the Ukrainian soldiers actually deserted, and begged for asylum in Russia.

Here is the proof:



and




Anyway, just give up - you clearly don't know what the hell you're spouting everywhere.