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Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by PastorKun(m): 8:30am On Aug 31, 2014
GOOD MUSLIMS need to speak up NOW and do much more about Radical Islam; when people set out to kill whoever does not share their religious views, the rest of the world are not just going to stand back and wait for their turn on the slaughter like "Ileya" rams. The world will fight back, believe me, even preemptively and the anger would not let people seperate good from bad Muslims.

The world today desperately needs peace and sanity and the foundation for this is RESPECT for our individual choices and freedoms. Being a Muslim might be the best thing that happened to you, good but this God we all claim we worship made us DIFFERENT with various perspectives for His own pleasure, if you cannot tolerate the DIVERSITY OF GOD'S CREATION, its difficult for me to see how you think you reverence God.

All of mankind need to pause, take a chill pill and evaluate where we are pushing ourselves with all these madness and mad acts all in the name of religion.

PS: The above article is from a friend's facebook wall, I believe it's worth sharing.

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Nobody: 8:48am On Aug 31, 2014
I dont belive any muslim is Good. Warlords
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by PastorKun(m): 12:14pm On Aug 31, 2014
ajibolabd: I dont belive any muslim is Good. Warlords

This is a very wrong and fallacious statement there are lots of good people that are muslim. Only problem is that religious sensitivity might be suppressing them from coming out enmasse to protest the evil these terrorists are doing in the name of their religion.
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Nobody: 12:20pm On Aug 31, 2014
I think we can expect another 'Good' Muslims demonstration when the next Gaza war happens.

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by PastorKun(m): 12:48pm On Aug 31, 2014
frosbel: I think we can expect another 'Good' Muslims demonstration when the next Gaza war happens.

This got me laughing. The demonstration they did then exposed a high level of hypocrisy and conceit.

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by dorox(m): 1:23pm On Aug 31, 2014
frosbel: I think we can expect another 'Good' Muslims demonstration when the next Gaza war happens.
Hey frosbel, how have you been? It has been too long, I trust all is well with you.
The Gaza demonstration was a bit tamed compared to the mayhem caused by the Muhammad cartoon. What I find surprising is the fact that most muslims would not see the need to be enraged that a group like Boko-Haram and IS are committing disgusting atrocities in the name of their god, their prophet and their religion, but will readily take to the street like feral dogs to protest the publishing of a cartoon of their prophet by one obscure newspaper in a distant land.
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Nobody: 3:53pm On Aug 31, 2014
PastorKun:

This is a very wrong and fallacious statement there are lots of good people that are muslim. Only problem is that religious sensitivity might be suppressing them from coming out enmasse to protest the evil these terrorists are doing in the name of their religion.
i agree, thanks.
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Rilwayne001: 4:59pm On Aug 31, 2014

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Rilwayne001: 5:02pm On Aug 31, 2014
PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ THERE STRONG CONDEMNATION

Most scholars used the Arabic abbreviation ‘Dā’esh’ in reference to ISIS. ‘Dā’esh’ has been substituted for ISIS for the convenience of the reader.

Sheikh Abu Abdullah al-Masry:

Sheikh al-Masry was previously a member of ISIS but withdrew from them on the basis of their ideology and methodology. He justifies his withdrawal by mentioning ISIS’s defamation of the people of Syria, claiming they were ideologically misguided[11], asking how this could be the case if the Prophet salla Allāhu ‘alayh wasalam said: ”If the people of Shaam corrupt, there is no good in you.” The Sheikh adds:

“The behaviour of many elements in ISIS including leaders consistently is offensive towards the people of Syria and its Mujāhidīn, accusing them of misguidance in belief and action.” He further said: “They moreover repeatedly accuse the people of Syria and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) of disbelief (Kufr).”

The Sheikh also argued that ISIS cannot be theoretically classified as Khawārij although practically this may be the case since they throw around accusations of disbelief without evidence and without understanding the gravity of such a charge. Rather, they may indict someone as a disbeliever merely on the grounds of disagreeing with them. Many of them believe that the people of Syria are originally apostates before creating justifications to this effect, raising weapons in their faces for the most trivial of matters.

Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi:

Sheikh al-Tarifi is a Researcher in the Ministry of Islamic Affairs in Riyadh. The Sheikh is deeply erudite in the sciences of Islam, known for his profound ability to retrieve evidences and issue meticulous verdicts. Among his teachers are Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Abdullah b. Baz, Faqih Abdullah b. Abdul Aziz b. Aqeel and Sheikh Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-Shanqeeti. The sheikh has an extensive number of printed works.[12]

He states:

“It is impermissible for anyone to make his group or party a milestone against which loyalty and hostility are measured, such that he believes that allegiance and leadership should belong to him exclusively. Whoever believes that sole allegiance applies to him (or his party) from amongst all Muslims, then upon him apply the words of Allāh: “Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad salla Allāh ‘alayh wasalam) have no concern in them in the least.”[13]“

The Sheikh added: “it is incorrect that while in a state of fighting and factions that one group should request individual and general allegiance and all that it entails. The allegiance is to the Jihād, constancy, patience and reform. It is incorrect that one individual who leads a particular faction to call himself Amīr al-Mu’minīn (the leader of the Believers), rather he should call himself the leader of the army, the battalion or the battle. General leadership is determined by Shūrā (consultation) between believers, not for an individual to assume. Titles cause exclusivity that can lead to dispute, conflict, strife and evil… [Therefore], participating with ISIS so long as it does not agree with the law of Allāh, independent of it is impermissible.”


Sheikh Sulaiman b. Nasser al-Alwan:

The Sheikh began pursuing knowledge at the age of fifteen. He has written comprehensive explanations of Hadīth books including Sahīh al-Bukhari, Jāmi’ Abū Issa al-Tirmidhi, Sunan Abī Dāwūd, Muwata’ Mālik among many others.[14] He quotes:

“Al-Baghdadi is not the Khalīfah of the Muslims for him to do whatever he pleases; rather he is a leader of a faction. Requesting a pledge of allegiance, killing those who refuse is the action of an aggressor, not the action of a person of good and righteousness.” He further said: “If his own leader does not agree with his actions, how can he expect allegiance from others?”

Sheikh Muhammad b. Salih al-Munajjid:

Sheikh Mohammad al-Munajjid is a renowned scholar of Islam with an array of recognised works (including IslamQA.com). His teachers include Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Abdullah b. Baz, Sheikh Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman b. Jibreen and Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Barrak. He is currently the imām of the Mosque of Omar b. Abdul Aziz al-Khobar.[15] He says:

“If a group thinks, for example, that it has established the Islamic state, its leader is the ‘Leader of the Believers’, that he should be listened to and obeyed by everyone, that anyone not under his command has rebelled against him, that [this ‘state’] has the authority to draw up borders, elect leaders over towns, that it has authority over public wealth, petrol, wheat and so on, that others should forcefully submit to them while they can stop whoever they want, that they have the sole authority of establishing Islamic courts and judges and that every court besides theirs is void, it has deviated. This will no doubt create competition over control of regions and eventually lead to a great Fitnah and bloodshed.”
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Sheikh Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi:

Sheikh Muhammad al-Maqdisi is considered the guide of the ‘Jihadist Salafist’ movement in Jordan. His name is Issam Barqawi but is famously known as Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi. Far from siding with ISIS,[16] he says in a letter to the Mujāhidīn of Syria after hearing of ISIS and their behaviour with other fighters:

“…and we do not feel ashamed to declare that we are free from the actions of those who dare spill the blood of Muslims whoever they may be.” He further added: “How can you be expected to accommodate all Syrians including Christians and other sects [if you cannot even accommodate other Muslims]?”

Dr. Hassan Saleh b. Hamid:

Dr. Hassan Saleh has a PhD in the principles of Fiqh and Sharī’ah, he is the Director of the Institute of Higher Islamic Education at the Umm Al-Qura University in Makkah and is a Member of the (Islamic) Advisory council.[17] He says:

“No one going to Syria to fight is excused to be part of al-Baghadi’s faction for even a moment… they are a faction that brings Fitnah, whenever they are called to a court for religious arbitration they turn away and whenever a truce is declared, they reignite the war.”

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Rilwayne001: 5:04pm On Aug 31, 2014
Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Fawzan:
Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Fawzan is a member of the Council for Human Rights, a Professor in Islamic Jurisprudence and the Head of the Department of Comparative Jurisprudence at the Islamic University of Imam Muhammad b. Saud in Saudi Arabia.[18] He says:

“ISIS is a rogue, external criminal organisation. Whoever knows of what afflicted us in Iraq and Afghanistan and the blood that was spilled unjustly at the hands of some ignorant individuals in our nation will understand the gravity of what is happening in Syria.”

Dr. Abdul Karim Bakkar:
Dr. Abdul Karim Bakkar is one of the leading authors in the field of education and Islamic thought, who seeks to provide a deep-rooted analysis into matters concerning Islamic civilisation, renaissance and Da’wah. He has more than 40 books in this area. Dr. Abdul Karim Bakkar is a member of the Advisory Board for the Islam Today magazine (Riyadh).[19] He says:

“I met a number of students of knowledge and Islamic jurists returning from Syria. I swear by the One besides whom there is no god that the only thing they spoke about were the repulsive actions of ISIS and their crimes. ISIS and the Assad regime are two faces of one evil.”

Dr. Shafi al-Ajmi:

Dr. Al-Ajmi sought knowledge under the supervision of Sheikh Muhammad b. Saalih and Sheikh Yahya al-Yahya. He studied at the University of Imam Muhammad b. Saud and is now the Imām of al-Ghazali Mosque in Kuwait.[20]He quotes:

“I have not heard of a single scholar inside or outside of Syria who has praised this faction, had good suspicion of them or defended them, rather they have unanimously agreed that they are aggressors. Al-Baghdadi’s aim, since entering Syria is to weaken the fighters and he has indeed weakened al-Nusra Front and Ahraar al-Shaam and continues to do so.”

Sheikh Abu Basir al-Tartusi:

Sheikh Abu Basir al-Tartusi has played the effective role of the Syrian revolution’s Mufti. It is said that Sheikh al-Tartusi was the first Arab fighter to travel to Afghanistan in 1981, accompanying Abdullah Azzam on one of his trips. He has authored many books and is the founder of several of the revolution’s coordination groups.[21] He says:

“The group known as ISIS are from the fanatical Khawārij, rather they have surpassed the Khawārij in many of their characteristics and actions, combining between fanaticism, aggression, hostility and shedding inviolable blood.” He further said: “We call upon all sincere individuals who have been fooled by them while still with this misguided group to severe their ties with it and to declare their freedom from it and its actions.”

Sheikh Abdullah Saad:

The Sheikh and notable Muhadtih Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman b. Mohammed Al-Saad Al-Mutairi is one of those at the forefront of 20th and 21st century Muslim scholars. His teachers include, Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Baz, Sheikh Mohammed b. Saalih and Sheikh Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman al-Jibreen. He has authored tens of books and has explanations of Bukhāri, Sunan Abī Dāwūd, Jāmi’ al-Tirmithi and others.[22]He says:

“I plea to whoever joined this faction (ISIS) to leave it and move away from it, and for its leaders to return to the truth and to repent to Allāh from the grave mistakes they have fallen into…”

Sheikh Abdullah al-Mahiseny:

Sheikh al-Mahiseny is a specialist in Islamic Jurisprudence, acquiring a PhD in Comparative Fiqh in the subject: “Rulings Concerning War Refugees in Islamic Jurisprudence.”[23] He says:

“By Allāh, I have never witnessed the scholars who speak about matters of Jihād agree on criticising and opposing a Muslim movement as they have agreed on condemning ISIS.” Sheikh Mahiseny concluded by saying: “I implore you by Allāh O Baghdadi to allow a general Islamic court mediate to uphold the injunctions of Allāh.”

Sheikh Adnan Mohammed al-Aroor:

Sheikh Adnan al-Aroor is currently the Director of Research and Publishing in Riyadh. He grew up seeking knowledge in Syria under several scholars including Sheikh al-Albani and Sheikh b. Baz.[24] He is one of the most notable scholarly icons of the Syrian revolution and has a multitude of published works. Sheikh al-Aroor says, directing his question at ISIS:

“Did Allāh set conditions that must be met before accepting that the Qur’ān arbitrate [in the affairs of difference]? Then where did you get these conditions [that you set] from? Why do you leave military fronts such as Homs and dedicate your efforts to the areas near the Turkish borders? … Who are the people of religious authority (ahl al-hal wal-’aqd) who you consulted before establishing your ‘state’? Do you aim to overthrow the sectarian dictator or to fight others [who want to achieve this]? … What is your Islamic proof that justifies your pledge to someone unknown?”[25] He furthermore states: “ISIS are either Khawārij or infiltrated by the [Syrian] regime. It is composed of three groups of people: brutal Takfīrīs, wicked infiltrators and people deceived by them.”

The Scholars of Aleppo Front:

The Scholars of Aleppo Front issued a statement encouraging the sincere members of ISIS to leave this faction and join the legitimate revolutionary forces in Syria for the crime that has been perpetrated by this group, including:

Accusations of disbelief (takfīr), their shedding of inviolable blood without a second thought, kidnappings and documented armed robberies of weapons and ammunition from other rebel factions, their refusal to allow the Sharī’ah to arbitrate between them and the other factions and sowing the seeds of discord between fighers. ISIS’s takfīr sometimes extend to the entire population of Syria. This includes takfīr boldly levelled at the Free Syrian Army, accusing Ahraar al-Shaam that they are misguided ‘Surūrīs’ and that al-Nusra Front have defied their alleged ‘Khalīfah’.[26]

A Joint Statement of 47 Scholars in Saudi Arabia
Including Al-Ghunaymaan, Al-‘Umar, Al-Mahmoud and Al-Jalali Al-Mahmoud

The joint statement asserted that it is impermissible and of tyranny for one faction to impose itself as the only holder of legitimacy and that it is necessary that all other groups pledge allegiance to it without consulting the Muslims, otherwise they become of the Khawārij and their blood becomes permissible. It argued that this is the main reason for divisions and internal fighting. Sheikh Hamoud b. Ali al-Omari added: “The reality of the matter is, every drop of blood shed between the (rebel) factions in Syria is due to al-Baghdadi’s refusal to allow the Sharī’ah to arbitrate while implementing his own innovated Sharī’ah.”

There is no act, the punishment for which has been mentioned more sternly than that of killing a believer intentionally where a collection of five severe retributions have been listed:

“But whoever kills a believer intentionally – his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allāh has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.”[27]

Conclusion

Above are only some of the verdicts issued against ISIS by leading Muslim scholars. Such an agreement between scholars, analysts and intellectuals should shake the heart of any individual who has participated in hampering the revolutionary effort while imposing an innovated ideology on its people. This neither pleases Allāh nor is it to the betterment of Syria. Syrians are in no need of further repression. Sincere individuals who have joined ISIS believing it endorses the true purpose of Islam should rush to change course and avoid further gambling with their permanent abode and with a Syrian future that balances on a knife’s edge.

www.islam21c.com/politics/conclusive-scholarly-opinions-on-isis/

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by PastorKun(m): 5:23pm On Aug 31, 2014
^^^
Yes I can understand some muslim scholars condemning ISIS because moderate Muslims like them have become victims but this wasn't the case when the victims were none Muslims or Jews. And it certainly pales in significance to the outrage Muslims express to mundane issues of danish cartoons or mutilation of the quoran by obscure people they don't even know.

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by HolyHolla(m): 5:25pm On Sep 05, 2014
Rilwayne001:
www.islam21c.com/politics/conclusive-scholarly-opinions-on-isis/

Where are the Nigerian Moslem scholars? In hiding from BH?
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by HolyHolla(m): 5:30pm On Sep 05, 2014
PastorKun:

This got me laughing. The demonstration they did then exposed a high level of hypocrisy and conceit.

If that got you laughing, what about this proper self-protection tactic?

Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by rabzy: 10:21am On Nov 21, 2014
PastorKun:
^^^
Yes I can understand some muslim scholars condemning ISIS because moderate Muslims like them have become victims but this wasn't the case when the victims were none Muslims or Jews. And it certainly pales in significance to the outrage Muslims express to mundane issues of danish cartoons or mutilation of the quoran by obscure people they don't even know.

They used to organize protests and rallies when cartoons and parodies come up. They burn US flags and Israeli flags and whatever country they perceive are against them. I have not seen anyone doing same when Assad was murdering thousands and also no one is burning ISIS flags anywhere an organizing rallies and protests.

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by PastorKun(m): 1:47pm On Nov 30, 2014
The insane and outrageously criminal and evil bombing of the Kano central mosque by agents of the devil remains an evil which all human beings must find repulsive irrespective of religious leanings or tribal background. I sympathise with all Nigerians on this national disaster and earnestly pray for the end of terrorism in our land. But one thing baffles me and that is the usually docile reaction by muslim youths to the desecration of one of islam's most iconic sites and hloy mosque in Nigeria. Other than the normal condemnation, I have not heard or read of any serious outrage being expressed by muslim youths to this evil that just happened. I am saying this. Because going by precedence, we know that muslim youths(especially in the north) would not tolerate or allow any thing that desecrates islam. So why this docile attitude? Even if they are sympathetic to boko haram, we know that as it is now boko haram has crossed the line. Why is there no outrage? Why is there no mass movement to sambisa forest and other boko haram controlled areas to confront and fight them for this evil or is it only soft defenseless targets that are worth fighting when islam is desecrated (i.e danish cartoons saga) why this uncanny tolerance of boko haram by otherwise irate northern youths that would not tolerate harmless cartoons? Or is it a more grievous offence to draw mohammed cartoons and burn copies of the quoran than to blow up a historic muslim mosque killing scores of muslim faithfuls in the process
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Zeus777: 3:38pm On Nov 30, 2014
Rilwayne001:
PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ THERE STRONG CONDEMNATION

Most scholars used the Arabic abbreviation ‘Dā’esh’ in reference to ISIS. ‘Dā’esh’ has been substituted for ISIS for the convenience of the reader.

Sheikh Abu Abdullah al-Masry:

Sheikh al-Masry was previously a member of ISIS but withdrew from them on the basis of their ideology and methodology. He justifies his withdrawal by mentioning ISIS’s defamation of the people of Syria, claiming they were ideologically misguided[11], asking how this could be the case if the Prophet salla Allāhu ‘alayh wasalam said: ”If the people of Shaam corrupt, there is no good in you.” The Sheikh adds:

“The behaviour of many elements in ISIS including leaders consistently is offensive towards the people of Syria and its Mujāhidīn, accusing them of misguidance in belief and action.” He further said: “They moreover repeatedly accuse the people of Syria and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) of disbelief (Kufr).”

The Sheikh also argued that ISIS cannot be theoretically classified as Khawārij although practically this may be the case since they throw around accusations of disbelief without evidence and without understanding the gravity of such a charge. Rather, they may indict someone as a disbeliever merely on the grounds of disagreeing with them. Many of them believe that the people of Syria are originally apostates before creating justifications to this effect, raising weapons in their faces for the most trivial of matters.

Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi:

Sheikh al-Tarifi is a Researcher in the Ministry of Islamic Affairs in Riyadh. The Sheikh is deeply erudite in the sciences of Islam, known for his profound ability to retrieve evidences and issue meticulous verdicts. Among his teachers are Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Abdullah b. Baz, Faqih Abdullah b. Abdul Aziz b. Aqeel and Sheikh Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-Shanqeeti. The sheikh has an extensive number of printed works.[12]

He states:

“It is impermissible for anyone to make his group or party a milestone against which loyalty and hostility are measured, such that he believes that allegiance and leadership should belong to him exclusively. Whoever believes that sole allegiance applies to him (or his party) from amongst all Muslims, then upon him apply the words of Allāh: “Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad salla Allāh ‘alayh wasalam) have no concern in them in the least.”[13]“

The Sheikh added: “it is incorrect that while in a state of fighting and factions that one group should request individual and general allegiance and all that it entails. The allegiance is to the Jihād, constancy, patience and reform. It is incorrect that one individual who leads a particular faction to call himself Amīr al-Mu’minīn (the leader of the Believers), rather he should call himself the leader of the army, the battalion or the battle. General leadership is determined by Shūrā (consultation) between believers, not for an individual to assume. Titles cause exclusivity that can lead to dispute, conflict, strife and evil… [Therefore], participating with ISIS so long as it does not agree with the law of Allāh, independent of it is impermissible.”


Sheikh Sulaiman b. Nasser al-Alwan:

The Sheikh began pursuing knowledge at the age of fifteen. He has written comprehensive explanations of Hadīth books including Sahīh al-Bukhari, Jāmi’ Abū Issa al-Tirmidhi, Sunan Abī Dāwūd, Muwata’ Mālik among many others.[14] He quotes:

“Al-Baghdadi is not the Khalīfah of the Muslims for him to do whatever he pleases; rather he is a leader of a faction. Requesting a pledge of allegiance, killing those who refuse is the action of an aggressor, not the action of a person of good and righteousness.” He further said: “If his own leader does not agree with his actions, how can he expect allegiance from others?”

Sheikh Muhammad b. Salih al-Munajjid:

Sheikh Mohammad al-Munajjid is a renowned scholar of Islam with an array of recognised works (including IslamQA.com). His teachers include Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Abdullah b. Baz, Sheikh Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman b. Jibreen and Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Barrak. He is currently the imām of the Mosque of Omar b. Abdul Aziz al-Khobar.[15] He says:

“If a group thinks, for example, that it has established the Islamic state, its leader is the ‘Leader of the Believers’, that he should be listened to and obeyed by everyone, that anyone not under his command has rebelled against him, that [this ‘state’] has the authority to draw up borders, elect leaders over towns, that it has authority over public wealth, petrol, wheat and so on, that others should forcefully submit to them while they can stop whoever they want, that they have the sole authority of establishing Islamic courts and judges and that every court besides theirs is void, it has deviated. This will no doubt create competition over control of regions and eventually lead to a great Fitnah and bloodshed.”
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Sheikh Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi:

Sheikh Muhammad al-Maqdisi is considered the guide of the ‘Jihadist Salafist’ movement in Jordan. His name is Issam Barqawi but is famously known as Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi. Far from siding with ISIS,[16] he says in a letter to the Mujāhidīn of Syria after hearing of ISIS and their behaviour with other fighters:

“…and we do not feel ashamed to declare that we are free from the actions of those who dare spill the blood of Muslims whoever they may be.” He further added: “How can you be expected to accommodate all Syrians including Christians and other sects [if you cannot even accommodate other Muslims]?”

Dr. Hassan Saleh b. Hamid:

Dr. Hassan Saleh has a PhD in the principles of Fiqh and Sharī’ah, he is the Director of the Institute of Higher Islamic Education at the Umm Al-Qura University in Makkah and is a Member of the (Islamic) Advisory council.[17] He says:

“No one going to Syria to fight is excused to be part of al-Baghadi’s faction for even a moment… they are a faction that brings Fitnah, whenever they are called to a court for religious arbitration they turn away and whenever a truce is declared, they reignite the war.”
since IS and BOKO started their madness tell me just ONE protest against these mad Muslim men that has so far surpassed in Muslim population, emotion and vigor the protest folowing Mohamed cartoon or the protest up North in Nigeria folowin a newspaper publication during the miss world peagent? ....,,,Islamic cleric "condemnation" my foot....mtscheeew

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Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Nobody: 3:53pm On Nov 30, 2014
PastorKun:


This got me laughing. The demonstration they did then exposed a high level of hypocrisy and conceit.

Ah! behind the curtain shows a glimmer of the true Pastorkun. Stop pretending.

Besides, your CAN leader is helping us to speak up. Nothing more to add to his eloquent words of wisdom.

PastorKun:
GOOD MUSLIMS need to speak up NOW and do much more about Radical Islam; when people set out to kill whoever does not share their religious views, the rest of the world are not just going to stand back and wait for their turn on the slaughter like "Ileya" rams. The world will fight back, believe me, even preemptively and the anger would not let people seperate good from bad Muslims.
The world today desperately needs peace and sanity and the foundation for this is RESPECT for our individual choices and freedoms.
[quote author=PastorKun post=25910620]

Already people do not seperate 'good' or 'bad' muslims whatever that means... as ajibolbd honestly pointed out in his first comment. So no threat there, the world is already persecuting us and this was prophecied by the prophet (saw), who said:

"there will come a time when holding on to your religion will be like holding live coals in your fist"

I agree with your last sentence, if however, such RESPECT could be applied to ALL choices and ALL freedoms... including Islam.
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by ayinba1(f): 4:26pm On Nov 30, 2014
Abuamam:


Ah! behind the curtain shows a glimmer of the true Pastorkun. Stop pretending.

Besides, your CAN leader is helping us to speak up. Nothing more to add to his eloquent words of wisdom.


Thank you brother and all the other muslims who have responded. IMO, OP and his cohorts are just resuming the Sunday bashing of muslims and Islam. They don't really want to hear about the condemnation of the terrorist acts; they are more interested in presenting Islam the way they want everyone to see it.
Re: Good Muslims Your Voice Needs To Be Heard. by Zeus777: 5:31pm On Nov 30, 2014
ayinba1:


Thank you brother and all the other muslims who have responded. IMO, OP and his cohorts are just resuming the Sunday bashing of muslims and Islam. They don't really want to hear about the condemnation of the terrorist acts; they are more interested in presenting Islam the way they want everyone to see it.
look when d cartoon protests where on I didn't want to hear it, when Muslims protested in the north east followin d alleged desecration of their Quran I didn't want to hear about it. But u know what, I ended up HEARING about it because they where very loud .

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