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The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:41am On Aug 31, 2014
Deeply disheartened with the direction of my previous thread; Pened Response To Uyghur cries, the need arose to address certain issues properly. And thus, the idea of opening this thread was conceived.

To understand Islam properly, one must be willing to study the Qur'an in its original language, terminologies, literary and context. One must have a sound, rational and objective mind coupled with the will to travel length beyond his comfort zone in discovery of the truth.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:42am On Aug 31, 2014
Rationality is the primary requirement for understanding the scripture. Those who trade it for comformity, blind faith or wishful thinking earn only misery and regression even after years or decades of studying religions or scriptures. God condemns them:

[Qur'an 10:100] And it is not for a soul to believe except by permission of God, and He will place curse upon those who will not use reason.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:44am On Aug 31, 2014
Jizya in orthodox Islamic texts

Many attempt justifying the mainstream muslims' interpretation of "Jizya" as a common tax paid by non-muslims for protection, provisions and priviledges they enjoy under the state but referring to the orthodox Islamic texts, we are met with a gross contrast.

Qur'an 9:29: Exegesis of Ibn Kathir:

Paying Jizyah is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace

Allah said, "until they pay the Jizyah", if they do not choose to embrace Islam(with willing submission), in defeat and subservience, ('and feel themselves subdued'), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:45am On Aug 31, 2014
Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, (Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.) This is why the Leader of the faithful `Umar bin Al- Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, demanded his well-known conditions be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation and disgrace.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:47am On Aug 31, 2014
The scholars of Hadith narrated from `Abdur-Rahman bin Ghanm Al-Ash`ari that he said, "I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash- Sham:

`In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion.

We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:50am On Aug 31, 2014
We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors of our houses of worship for the wayfarer and passerby.

Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days.

We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit or betrayal against Muslims.

We will not teach our children the Qur'an, publicize practices of Shirk, invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so.

We will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:52am On Aug 31, 2014
We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons.

We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor.

We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes wherever we are, wear belts around our waist, refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets.

We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, nor raise our voices with prayer at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:53am On Aug 31, 2014
We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, or buy slaves who were captured by Muslims.

We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes."

When I gave this document to Umar, he added to it, "We will not beat any Muslim. These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.'''
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:54am On Aug 31, 2014
^^^^
Indeed, the bitter but true reality of orthodox interpretation of the Qur'an or Islam. Those who deny the ugly basis of imposing a special 'tax' on non-muslims within the sharia state are soundly refuted by their own revered interpreter of Qur'an: Ibn Kathir. Infact, it goes beyond saying that "Jizya" in sharia state or orthodox Islamic theology is basically a tool to subjugate and humiliate non-muslims.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:56am On Aug 31, 2014
Oral Tradition On Jesus' Coming:::

Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:58am On Aug 31, 2014
^^^
If Jizya is a simple tax for non-muslims like citizens or foreigners in secular states as the apologists explain, then why is it so much significant in orthodox Islamic creed, why does Jesus have to terminate it on coming and why not Zakat too, since it is repeated Zakat is also a tax exclusive to muslims?
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:59am On Aug 31, 2014

Oral Tradition on "Pay the Jizya or Die!":::

Abu Dawud 19:3031:

Narrated Anas ibn Malik ;

Uthman ibn AbuSulayman:
The Prophet (peace be upon him) sent Khalid ibn al-Walid to Ukaydir of Dumah. He was seized and they brought him to him (i.e. the Prophet). He spared his life and made peace with him on condition that he should pay jizyah (poll-tax).
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:01am On Aug 31, 2014
^^^
Supposing the apologists were right is it reasonable that according to their oral traditions that the Prophet would order the execution of a non-muslim for not paying a sum of money? If "Jizya" in the orthodox Islamic texts were a honest tax as the apologist want us to believe, then it is only possible that the Prophet could have exiled the defaulter or barr him from enjoying certain services the state renders if he insists on not paying the 'tax'.

The fact that according to this report that this man 's life could have been taken for not paying the Jizya imply that the apologists are playing dirty here and Jizya in the orthodox muslim 's culture is more severe than just a tax.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:02am On Aug 31, 2014
There are also claims that Zakat is tax on muslims for which defaulters are to be fought or even killed by the state. No, Zakat is obligatory due commanded of muslims which is meant to cover the poor, needy or underpriviledged(Qur'an 9:60). It is mandatory in the sense that God punishes defaulters but like salat or fasting, no body is permited to fight or penalise deliberate defaulters.

Tax on the other hand isn't restricted to only the welfare of the poor and needy as in zakat, tax is a due paid to the government and used to run public services of the state.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:03am On Aug 31, 2014
Jizay in the Quran


Qur'an 9:29

Fight those who do not believe in God or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what God and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.


The word "Jizya" originate from the arabic root; Jazaya which mean a compensation, to make up for a loss. So, Jizya in war context of the above verse more accurately refer to reparation and so taking the linguistic view alone, Jizya isn't "tax".
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:05am On Aug 31, 2014
^^^
The muslims migrated to Medina to escape persecution and oppression in Makkah. There, they recieved a warm welcome and protection in Medina, in a matter of time the people accepted Muhammad as their leader who would later establish a secular state. Still dissatisfied, the Pagans especially from Makkah continued to torment Muslims even in Medina and this culminated in a couple of wars.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:07am On Aug 31, 2014
To normalise peace and end bloodshed for good, the Muslims entered a peace treaty with the Pagans. But repeatedly, the Pagans violated this treaty, plotted to expel the Prophet from his city, harrassed, looted and attacked Muslims(Qur'an 9: 8-10, 12, 13). God then issued an ultimaton of 4 months within which the Pagans were expected to repent and ammend or better still, embrace Islam. Otherwise, retaliation was permitted for the muslims till the Pagans pay for their wreckage, till they pay the reparation, the Jizya for aggressing.[Qur'an 9:1-5, 29]
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:08am On Aug 31, 2014
Jizya=Jazaya= Compensation= Reparation

Hence;
I- Jizya applies only in context of war or aggression.

II- Jizya is paid by those who violated terms of peace, aggressed against and caused damages to life and properties in the Islamic state.

III- Jizyah is compensation for the losses of the aggrieved due to the actions of the aggressors.

IV- Jizyah is meant to fix or mend losses, damages incurred by the aggrieved or Islamic state in the context of this verse.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 9:11am On Aug 31, 2014
Remark

In the end, Jizya is only mentioned once in the scripture; Quran 9:29. And that was in context of a war. Where do the orthodox muslims get their Jizya outside this context from?

The Islamic state can impose tax equitably on her citizens regardless of tribe, status or religion but to interprete Zakat or Jizya as tax is baseless in the light of Islam; THE QUR'AN.

Of course, this might not change anything. Those who "ll dispute will dispute over the clearest or most trival issues(Qur'an 18:54). But as a reformer who acknowledge the truth, you 'll let it out regardless of how many feet that will be stepped, regardless of how many curses that will be hurled and regardless of how many ties that will be broken(Qur'an 5:08).

Peace.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 7:30pm On Aug 31, 2014
www.nairaland.com/816531/jizya-taxes

I found this in the archives. Justifying injustice is a deed more horrendrous than injustice. Read for yourself.
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 11:35am On Sep 02, 2014
On one end we have the extremists expounding on the sacredness of human life, on another end we have them taking human lives for not paying just a sum of money. How on earth is not paying 'Jizya' worth taking a man 's life. The extremists publicly deny the evil in their teachings when they proselytize but on practicing these teachings in full, they are exposed.

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/10/egypts-muslim-brotherhood-convert-islam-or-pay-jiz/

www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2013/September/Egypt-Christians-Killed-for-Not-Paying-Jizya-Tax/
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by usermane(m): 8:01pm On Sep 04, 2014
www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/nothing-islamic-about-isis-part-two-what-the-jizya-really-means.html

Of course, every attempt to provide moral explanation for Jizya is considerable. But the truth cannot be reached by apologists or window dressers.

The problems with the above article aren't far fetched.

For one the claims aren't based on evidences from Quran, Hadith or Books of Tafsir like Ibn Kathir or Ibn Abbas. Rather the author quotes M. Asad, a translator 's commentry. Translators have no place in interpretation in orthodox Islam.

For two, even if we accept M. Asad 's commentary, there are still issues. Please read the page and ponder.
If Non-muslims have to pay tax for not participating in military defense of the state, only a slight percent of muslims participate, why don't the majority of civilian muslims pay the Jizya too or increase their zakat to in return for the protection?
Re: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya by Empiree: 4:33am On Sep 05, 2014
usermane: ^^^
The muslims migrated to Medina to escape persecution and oppression in Makkah. There, they recieved a warm welcome and protection in Medina, in a matter of time the people accepted Muhammad as their leader who would later establish a secular state. Still dissatisfied, the Pagans especially from Makkah continued to torment Muslims even in Medina and this culminated in a couple of wars.
Quick question. Can you please tell me where you got bold from?. It's not in the Quran

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