read john 1:45. 'Philip findeth Nathanael and saith unto him we have found Him of whom moses in the law and the prophets did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of joseph.' did Jesus object to it? Did Jesus ever say dat another prophet was coming? I kno Jesus gave warning against false prophets like muhammad because if he was from God, he will not disobey the law of God; thou shalt have no other gods besides me, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet ur neibor wife, property etc. Muhammad flagrantly disobeyed all these and still claimed he was a prophet of God of Israel. According to Deuteronomy 18:15, "midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me" is self explanatory. Jews were forbidden from marying non jewish let alone, God wuold raise a pagan womaniser to b their prophet. I see the deception dat Christ waned us against here in Matthew 24:24. Beware!

INJESUSNAME: read john 1:45. 'Philip findeth Nathanael and saith unto him we have found Him of whom moses in the law and the prophets did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of joseph.' did Jesus object to it? Did Jesus ever say dat another prophet was coming? I kno Jesus gave warning against false prophets like muhammad because if he was from God, he will not disobey the law of God; thou shalt have no other gods besides me, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet ur neibor wife, property etc. Muhammad flagrantly disobeyed all these and still claimed he was a prophet of God of Israel. According to Deuteronomy 18:15, "midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me" is self explanatory. Jews were forbidden from marying non jewish let alone, God wuold raise a pagan womaniser to b their prophet. I see the deception dat Christ waned us against here in Matthew 24:24. Beware!

THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS PEOPLE PROVE THE VERSES I POSTED WRONG NW

Abdulsalam20: THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS PEOPLE PROVE THE VERSES I POSTED WRONG NW

do you know how to read at all? Dint you read now the prophecy in deutorunomy come to pass in the book of john?


Now beat this.

According to early and treasured biographical and historical accounts of Muhammad, authored by
competent Muslim scholars (such as writings of at-Tabari and Ibn Sa’d),
Muhammad longed for better relations and reconciliation with his
community. Thereafter, the accounts continue, God revealed Surah 53
to Muhammad up to and including vss. 19, 20. These two verses read: Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza
And Manat, the third, the other? (53:19,20) Then, originally, the verses (known today as the satanic verses)
followed as verses 21-22: These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries)
Whose intercession is to be hoped for. The cranes whose intercession was recognized were, of course, three
deities, specifically female deities. The same accounts tell us that after
this revelation was completed, Muhammad, his followers and the
pagan Arabs all prostrated. Tensions eased, reconciliation was at hand,
and all were delighted. But Muhammad soon retracted the reconciliation—how soon is not
clear. For the account continues that Jibril (Gabriel), the angel of
revelation, informed Muhammad that Satan had used Muhammad's
desire for reconciliation with the pagan leaders to insert into the
revelation of God the verses about the interceding cranes, otherwise
called "the satanic verses". The verses which follow, not the satanic verses, serve as the proper sequence to 53:19,20 (above): Are yours the males and His the females?
That indeed is an unfair division! (53:21,22) In other words: When you Arabs have sons (whom you prefer to
daughters!), how unfair of you to say that God has daughters! The idea
of a plurality of gods or goddesses or sons or daughters of God is
ridiculous. God alone is God. The three goddesses are false. Problem: Muhammad admitted (by the guidance of Gabriel) to being
deceived into inserting these verses into the Qur’an. In other words,
Muhammad was unable to discern revelation from Allah with
revelation from Satan. The great Islamic historian al-Tabari even
records Muhammad's confession: I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words
which He has not spoke. (The History of al-Tabari, Vol. VI, p. 111, SUNY Press, Albany, NY) Is this possible for one who is truly God’s chosen prophet? Furthermore, if Satan was able to deceive Muhammad into inserting
these verses, how many other verses also have been inserted due to
satanic influence? Muslims are aware of these verses, but have a response to the
problem. Muhammad receives another just-in-time revelation
absolving him of this small indiscretion: Sura 22:52 - And We did not send before you any messenger or
prophet, but when he desired, the Shaitan [Satan] made a suggestion
respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which the Shaitan casts,
then does Allah establish His communications, and Allah is Knowing,
Wise. In other words, don’t worry Muhammad, all other prophets before you
said things attributed to Satan from time to time, but Allah always
corrected them. The problem with this argument, or attempt to rescue Muhammad, is
that it is patently false and without merit or proof. In fact, the Bible
specifies exactly what must happen to someone who makes a false
prophecy or speaks in the name of other gods: If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, ... saying,
“Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us
serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that
dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know
whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all
your soul... But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the LORD
your God... (Deut. 13:1-5) In other words, anyone who advocates other gods is a false prophet;
do not listen to him. In Deuteronomy 18 we find another test of false
prophet: But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name
which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the
name of other gods, that prophet shall die. (Deut. 18:20) Here we have a two-fold test of a false prophet. How does Muhammad
measure up to the test? Test #1 1. If a man speaks a word in the name of God which God did not
command him to speak, that man is a false prophet. 2. Muhammad spoke words which God did not command him to
speak. 3. Therefore, Muhammad is a false prophet. Test #2 1. If a man speaks in the name of other gods, that man is a false
prophet. 2. Muhammad spoke in the name of other gods. 3. Therefore, Muhammad is a false prophet. Muslims may not like it, but by any definition of a prophet, Muhammad
just does not measure up. Indeed, he meets the criteria for a false
prophet, and therefore must be rejected as a messenger of God. The other problem with these Satanic verses is this: Muhammad, by his
own admission, could not discern between revelation from God and
that from Satan. How then is anyone to trust anything written in the
Qur'an? Perhaps all of it came from Satan -- Muhammad certainly was
in no position to discern genuine divine revelation. Muslims need to abandon the Qur'an as God's word, for this and a
multitude of other reasons, and come to the book that truly is inspired
by the one true God - the Holy Bible.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the Satanic Verses

By

Bassam Zawadi



There is no greater lie than the lie of the Satanic Verses. The Prophet (peace be upon him) never uttered those verses. To sum it all up, the story basically states that when the Prophet (peace be upon him) was leading the prayer one time near the Ka'bah, he was reciting Surah 53:19-20 and then immediately after he recited those verses, he said "those are the high-flying cranes and indeed their intercession is to be hoped for" so the Quraysh tribe were so thrilled that the Prophet (peace be upon him) spoke so positively about their Gods that they also prostrated with the Muslims after he recited those verses. Afterwards, Allah sent down a verse rebuking the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (Surah 17:73-75) and also sent down a verse abrogating the "Satanic Revelation" (Surah 22:52)



Let's see if this could make any sense.
Surah 53 was revealed in the 5th year of Prophethood...

Ibn Sad says that before this, in the Rajab of the 5th year of Prophethood, a small group of the Companions had emigrated to Abyssinia. Then, when in the Ramadan of the same year this incident took place the news spread that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had recited Surah An-Najm publicly in the assembly of the Quraish and the whole assembly, including the believers as well as the disbelievers, had fallen down in prostration with him. When the emigrants to Abyssinia heard this news they formed the impression that the disbelievers of Makkah had become Muslims. Thereupon, some of them returned to Makkah in the Shawwal of the 5th year of Prophethood, only to learn that the news was wrong and the conflict between Islam and disbelief was raging as furiously as before. Consequently, the second emigration to Abyssinia took place, in which many more people left Makkah.

Thus, it becomes almost certain that this Surah was revealed in the Ramadan of 5th year of Prophethood. (Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 53, Source)



The alleged verse that was revealed rebuking the Prophet (peace be upon him) was sent down years later:
The very first verse indicates that this Surah was revealed on the occasion of Mi`raj (Ascension). According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, this event happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those, which were revealed in the last stage of Prophethood at Makkah. (Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 17, Source)

And the verse that supposedly abrogated the 'satanic revelation' was revealed in 1 A.H, which is approximately 8 years after the incident:

The sudden change of the style from v. 25 shows that probably vv. 25-78 were sent down in the month of Zul-Hijjah in the very first year after Hijrah. This is indicated by vv. 25-41 and confirmed by the occasion of the revelation of vv. 39-40. (Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 22, Source)

Are they trying to say that the Muslims believed that the Satanic revelations were true revelations for approximately eight years? That would mean that the Quraysh would have believed that the Muslims were pagan worshippers. So if the Quraysh did believe this, then why did they keep on persecuting the Muslims for their beliefs, which is the reason why the Hijra took place anyway?



Obviously, one should also continue reading the remainder of the Surah:

Surah 53:21-25

What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to God that the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.

It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so why would we

2. Imam al-Baghawi (d. 510) said in his commentary of the Qur'an entitled Lubab al-Ta'wil fi Ma`alim al-Tanzil (Dar al-Fikr ed. vol. 3) concerning the story of the cranes (qissat al-gharaaneeq):
[p. 293] Ibn `Abbas, Muhammad ibn Ka`b al-Qurazi and others of the commentators of Qur'an said that when the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - saw the turning away of his people from him and it bore heavily on him to see the distance grow between them and what he brought them on Allah's part, he desired in his soul (tamanna fi nafsihi) that there come from Allah something that would bridge the gap between him and his people, for he was deeply concerned that they should have faith. As he was in a gathering of the Quraysh one day, Allah revealed Sura al-Najm (53), whereupon Allah's Messenger - Allah bless and greet him -- began to recite it, until he reached His saying:



19. Have ye thought upon Al Lat and Al Uzza?
20. And Manat, the third, the other?
whereupon the devil interjected upon his tongue (alqa al-shaytan `ala lisanihi) in connection with that of which he spoke to himself and was hoping for:



"Those are the elevated cranes:
truly their intercession is dearly hoped!"
When the Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced greatly. Allah's Messenger proceeded with his recitation until the end of the Sura, at which point he prostrated, and the Muslims prostrated with him as well as all those of the pagans that were in the mosque. There remained no-one in the mosque, neither believer nor non-believer, except he prostrated, but for al-Walid ibn al-Mughira and Abu Uhayha Sa`id ibn al-`As who took a handful of earth and applied it to their foreheads, prostrating on it, for they were aged old men who could not prostrate. Then the Quraysh dispersed in elation at the way they had heard their gods mentioned, saying: "Muhammad has mentioned our gods in the best way possible." They also said: "We definitely know that Allah gives life and gives death as well as creates and sustains, but these our gods intercede for us before Him, so if Muhammad gives them their share, we are with him." When evening came, Gibril came to Allah's Messenger - Allah bless and greet him - and said: "O Muhammad! What have you done? You have recited to the people something which I never brought you from Allah Exalted and Almighty." Hearing this, the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - was deeply grieved and feared much from Allah (swt). So Allah revealed to him the following verse in which he consoled him , as He was ever merciful towards him:

{ Never sent We a messenger or a Prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise} (22:52)

Meanwhile those of the Prophet's Companions who were in Abyssynia heard the news of the prostration of the Quraysh and the rumor that the Quraysh and the Meccans had accepted Islam, so most of them returned to their kindred. But when they neared Mecca the news reached them that what they had heard of the Islam of the Meccans was false. So no-one actually entered Mecca except under protection or stealthily. When the above verse was revealed, the Quraysh said: "Muhammad regrets his words about the status of our gods before Allah and has now changed them." The two phrases that the devil had interjected upon the tongue of Allah's Messenger - Allah bless and greet him - by then were in the mouth of every idolater, and their hostility increased in intensity against those who had accepted Islam.



3. Al-Tabari (d. 310) said in his commentary entitled Jami` al-Bayan fi Tafsir al-Qur'an (30 vols.) Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1405/1985, reprint of the Bulaq 1322-1330/1904-1911 ed. vol. 17:
[p. 186] The sayings concerning the interpretation of the verse:

{ Never sent We a messenger or a Prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth.

There are two recent booklets from the late Nasir Albani's printing house, al-Maktab al-Islami out of Beirut, on the topic:

1- Nasb al-Majaniq li-Nasf Qissat al-Gharaniq ("The Hoisting of Catapults for the Destruction of the Story of the Cranes" by M. Nasir al-Albani, 3rd ed. 1996.

2- Al-Gharaniq: Qissatun Dakhilatun `ala al-Sirati al-Nabawiyya ("The Cranes: A Story Interpolated into the Prophetic Sira" by Albani's student Salih Ahmad al-Shami, 1st ed. 1998.

The first work argues for the invalidity of the story from the viewpoint of isnad, a weak argument as shown in the preceding discussion.

The second work argues for the invalidity of the story from the viewpoint of chronology, a strong and conclusive argument from the face of it, making the following points:

- Surat al-Najm (in which the disputed verses were purported to belong) was revealed in one whole in the tenth year of the Hijra.

- The First Hijra to Abyssinia took place in the fifth year, between Rajab and Shawwal.

- How then could the revelation of Surat al-Najm and the subsequent events - prompting the rumors of mass conversion in Mecca - that all took place in the tenth year, be a cause for the return of the Abyssinian Emigrants in the fifth?

- The true reason for the return of the Muslims from the first Abyssinian Emigration was alienation and difficult conditions as spoken by Asma' bint `Umays in the narration of al-Bukhari in his Sahih: "Asma' bint `Umays went in to see Hafsa the wife of Rasulullah Sallallahu `alayhi wa Alihi wa Sallam, and she was one of those who had emigrated to the Negus. Whereupon `Umar came in to see Hafsa while Asma' was with her. He asked who she was and Hafsa told him. `Umar said: She is the Abyssinian? The one from accross the sea? Asma' said yes. `Umar said: We all [emigrants to Madina] made Hijra before you all [emigrants to Abyssinia], so we are more entitled to the Messenger of Allah than you - Allah bless and greet him. She became angry and said: Not at all, by Allah! You were with the Messenger of Allah - Allah bless and greet him - at a time he fed your hungry ones and admonished your ignorant ones, while we were in the abode of alienation and detestation (dar al-bu`ada' wa al-bughada') in Abyssinia, all for the sake of Allah and for the sake of Rasulullah! And, by Allah, I shall not eat one morsel of food nor drink one drop of water until I mention what you said to Rasulullah! And how much did we suffer, and how we lived in fear! But I shall mention this to the Prophet! Etc."

- All the above does not preclude the fact that the Meccan unbelievers did prostrate upon hearing Sura al-Najm exactly as it was revealed, due to its majesty and the fear caused in them by the invocation of punishment pronounced towards its end. One needs only to imagine them gathered together with the Muslims before the Ka`ba as the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - himself recited this newly-revealed Sura to them from beginning to end. Similar examples are the reactions of the unbelievers at the invocations of punishment they heard from the believers. For example, `Utba ibn Rabi`a's reaction when he heard the verse { If they turn away, tell them I have warned you of a destruction similar to that of `Ad and Thamud} (Fussilat 13). Upon hearing this `Utba placed his hand on the mouth of the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - so that the threat of punishment would be averted. And when Khubayb ibn `Adi pronounced a similar threat, Abu Sufyan lied down on the ground together with his son Mu`awiya to deflect its harm.

Al-Shami also makes note of the book "Hadha al-Habib" by the late Abu Bakr al-Jaza'iri in which the author advocates the position that the story did take place and that the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - was in fact mislead. This is the same man who used to sit in the Haram of Madina attacking the Awliya and Sufis, and who wrote that the father and mother of the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - are in Hellfire. He was refuted among others by the two Moroccan authors of the book Wa`izun Ghayru Mutta`iz ("A Heedl

IF U CAN READ THAT MY POST ABOVE I HAVE PROVED YOU WRONG WITH SOPHISTICATED EVIDENCE
PLS READ I WILL ADVIDE U TO READ IT BECAUSE U MIGHT END UP SHARING THIS FALSE INFO TO OTHERS
this is just a smal extrct frm d writeup........because u quoted the verse but u didnt quote d verse next to it
Obviously, one should also continue reading the remainder of
the Surah:
Surah 53:21-25
What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold,
such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are
nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your
fathers, - for which God has sent down no authority
(whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what
their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come
to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just)
anything he hankers after? But it is to God that the End and
the Beginning (of all things) belong.
It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so why would we

PLS READ THE WRITEUP IF I AM WRONG U CAN STATE THE PLACE I AM WRONG

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HOW MANY TIME DID I WANT TO DO THAT?!.......U QUOTED VERSE OF BEATING IN THE QURAN I REMEMBER IT WAS 3 I DEFENDED IT U SAID MUHAMMAD BEAT HIS WIFE AND I PROVE U WRONG AM NT SUPRISE U NEVER ARGUE ON ANY OF THE VERSE IN THE QURAN AND BIBLE I QUOTED......PLS HOW MANY TIME DID I WANT TO POST

You didn't give me a coherent reply. I quoted two narrations, one from Al-Bukhari where Mohammad hit Aisha and from the Quran where it states that men are possessors of women and men in Islam can beat their wives. If you gave a response, it never came across. If you don't mind, please respond

......PLS AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID DEFEND ANY OF THE VERSES I HAVE QUOTED..PLS CHOOSE ANY UR SELF........U SAID I AM ALL OVER THE PLACE YES!......BECAUSE U PEOPLE LACK SIMPLE KNOWLEDGE AND WE NEED TO EDUCATE YOU........I REMEMBER U QUOTED THAT MY POST IS TOO LONG SMH!......THAT IS WHAT TRUTHMAN2012 ALWAYS FIND AS AN EXCUSE AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID I POST TO EDUCATE SO IT HAS TO BE COMPREHENSIVE AND IT IS AN ACT OF HYPOCRACY FOR U TO SAY THAT JUST READ IT AND PROVE ME WRONG......AND DONT FORGET WHAT I SAY JUST CHOOSE AMONG ANY OF THE VERSE I HAVE QUOTED UR SELF AND JUSTIFY IT

Hypocrisy is when you ignore the obvious. This is a simple matter, if you want to discuss women rights in Islam and Christianity, we can do that. In order to do that, you have to stick to the subject. I am willing to engage you if you are honest about confining the topic to the subject matter.

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By Bassam Zawadi

There is no greater lie than the lie of the Satanic Verses. The Prophet (peace be upon him) never uttered those verses. To sum it all up, the story basically states that when the Prophet (peace be upon him) was leading the prayer one time near the Ka'bah, he was reciting Surah 53:19-20 and then immediately after he recited those verses, he said "those are the high-flying cranes and indeed their intercession is to be hoped for" so the Quraysh tribe were so thrilled that the Prophet (peace be upon him) spoke so positively about their Gods that they also prostrated with the Muslims after he recited those verses. Afterwards, Allah sent down a verse rebuking the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (Surah 17:73-75) and also sent down a verse abrogating the "Satanic Revelation" (Surah 22:52)

Hold on, why should Allah send down a verse to rebuke Mohammad if Mohammad never uttered the Satanic verses. Allah is supposedly the 'Almighty God', doesn't he know when he sent the first verse down before Mohammad recited it that He would have rebuked Mohammad? One of the holes in your argument is that Allah is arbitrary - God Almighty is not arbitrary, He is the same yesterday, today and forever. God doesn't change His mind to favor only one person.

Secondly, it is recorded FROM ISLAMIC THEOLOGY THAT CAN BE TRACED TODAY that Mohammad succumbed to the pressure of his tribe and did confirm Muslims can bow to the Arabian goddesses: al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat

The Qur'an, as it now reads, obviously rejects these deities. But—and here comes the issue—did the Qur'an and Muhammad always reject them?

While Muhammad was in Mecca, his followers were few, his movement grew painfully slowly and he, too, felt the pain of estrangement from his tribe. According to early and treasured biographical and historical accounts of Muhammad, authored by competent Muslim scholars (such as writings of at-Tabari and Ibn Sa’d), Muhammad longed for better relations and reconciliation with his community. Thereafter, the accounts continue, God revealed Surah 53 to Muhammad up to and including vss. 19, 20. These two verses read:

Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza And Manat, the third, the other? These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) Whose intercession is to be hoped for.(Surah 53:19,20)

The cranes whose intercession was recognized were, of course, the three deities. The same accounts tell us that after this revelation was completed, Muhammad, his followers and the pagan Arabs all prostrated. Tensions eased, reconciliation was at hand, and all were delighted.

I urge you to go read up on your Islamic because it shows you know little of it.

Let's see if this could make any sense. Surah 53 was revealed in the 5th year of Prophethood...

Ibn Sad says that before this, in the Rajab of the 5th year of Prophethood, a small group of the Companions had emigrated to Abyssinia. Then, when in the Ramadan of the same year this incident took place the news spread that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had recited Surah An-Najm publicly in the assembly of the Quraish and the whole assembly, including the believers as well as the disbelievers, had fallen down in prostration with him. When the emigrants to Abyssinia heard this news they formed the impression that the disbelievers of Makkah had become Muslims. Thereupon, some of them returned to Makkah in the Shawwal of the 5th year of Prophethood, only to learn that the news was wrong and the conflict between Islam and disbelief was raging as furiously as before. Consequently, the second emigration to Abyssinia took place, in which many more people left Makkah.

Can you please tell us which year Ibn Sad wrote this account

Thus, it becomes almost certain that this Surah was revealed in the Ramadan of 5th year of Prophethood. (Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 53, Source) The alleged verse that was revealed rebuking the Prophet (peace be upon him) was sent down years later: The very first verse indicates that this Surah was revealed on the occasion of Mi`raj (Ascension). According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, this event happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those, which were revealed in the last stage of Prophethood at Makkah. (Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 17, Source)

And the verse that supposedly abrogated the 'satanic revelation' was revealed in 1 A.H, which is approximately 8 years after the incident:

The sudden change of the style from v. 25 shows that probably vv. 25-78 were sent down in the month of Zul-Hijjah in the very first year after Hijrah. This is indicated by vv. 25-41 and confirmed by the occasion of the revelation of vv. 39-40. (Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 22, Source) Are they trying to say that the Muslims believed that the Satanic revelations were true revelations for approximately eight years? That would mean that the Quraysh would have believed that the Muslims were pagan worshippers. So if the Quraysh did believe this, then why did they keep on persecuting the Muslims for their beliefs, which is the reason why the Hijra took place anyway?

It shocks me that you as a Muslim are depending on commentaries written centuries after the event as defense to the Satanic verses. The Satanic verses are in the Quran. The author that brought it to light has been threaten with death up to this very day - if it was indeed not as you say it is - why does the Muslim world threaten to kill someone with an "alternate" view?

Obviously, one should also continue reading the remainder of the Surah:Surah 53:21-25

What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to God that the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong. It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so why would we

Again, you display your ignorance and rely on commentaries as defense - it is truly pathetic. For many Muslims it is simply inconceivable that Muhammad, even under the severest pressures, would (perhaps even could) compromise with his Meccan enemies, and still more that Satan somehow could "whisper" his thoughts into the substance of God's holy Word, the Qur'an. That is why even the idea of satanic verses in the Qur'an shocks some Muslims.

I didn't invent the Santanic verses nor did Jews, Christians or other non-Muslims. Our information about the satanic verses and the circumstances surrounding their revelation stems from the reputable Muslim accounts of at-Tabari and Ibn Sa’d. Muslims today who simply dismiss the account of these writers as fabricated and unhistorical must at least answer the question why such reputable persons would report it. The question is not new. But, it seems, a serious Muslim response is hard to find.

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2. Imam al-Baghawi (d. 510) said in his commentary of the Qur'an entitled Lubab al-Ta'wil fi Ma`alim al-Tanzil (Dar al-Fikr ed. vol. 3) concerning the story of the cranes (qissat al-gharaaneeq):
[p. 293] Ibn `Abbas, Muhammad ibn Ka`b al-Qurazi and others of the commentators of Qur'an said that when the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - saw the turning away of his people from him and it bore heavily on him to see the distance grow between them and what he brought them on Allah's part, he desired in his soul (tamanna fi nafsihi) that there come from Allah something that would bridge the gap between him and his people, for he was deeply concerned that they should have faith. As he was in a gathering of the Quraysh one day, Allah revealed Sura al-Najm (53), whereupon Allah's Messenger - Allah bless and greet him -- began to recite it, until he reached His saying:

19. Have ye thought upon Al Lat and Al Uzza?
20. And Manat, the third, the other?whereupon the devil interjected upon his tongue (alqa al-shaytan `ala lisanihi) in connection with that of which he spoke to himself and was hoping for:

Why would the devil interject Mohammad tongue? Mohammad is supposedly the greatest of all the messengers i.e. Moses, Jesus, Joshua etc. None of these other prophets in anyway were influenced or their speeches influenced by the devil. How come it is only Mohammad words that got influenced by the Devil?

When the Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced greatly. Allah's Messenger proceeded with his recitation until the end of the Sura, at which point he prostrated, and the Muslims prostrated with him as well as all those of the pagans that were in the mosque. There remained no-one in the mosque, neither believer nor non-believer, except he prostrated, but for al-Walid ibn al-Mughira and Abu Uhayha Sa`id ibn al-`As who took a handful of earth and applied it to their foreheads, prostrating on it, for they were aged old men who could not prostrate. Then the Quraysh dispersed in elation at the way they had heard their gods mentioned, saying: "Muhammad has mentioned our gods in the best way possible." They also said: "We definitely know that Allah gives life and gives death as well as creates and sustains, but these our gods intercede for us before Him, so if Muhammad gives them their share, we are with him." When evening came, Gibril came to Allah's Messenger - Allah bless and greet him - and said: "O Muhammad! What have you done? You have recited to the people something which I never brought you from Allah Exalted and Almighty." Hearing this, the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - was deeply grieved and feared much from Allah (swt). So Allah revealed to him the following verse in which he consoled him , as He was ever merciful towards him:

You have proven my point Bros. Mohammad cared for his tribe and he wanted to harmonize with them. In order to do so, he had to either act that their gods were okay or that it appeared that they could worship it. The problem with this is that God prophets are not controlled by the devil. If you are saying that Mohammad was influenced by the devil here then it's possible that he was influenced by the devil in so many other places. This is SHOCKING, really SHOCKING for any and every muslim. Your prophet was at some point in his life controlled by devils!!

{ Never sent We a messenger or a Prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise} (22:52)

In the Bible, their is a prerequisite for being a prophet of God. It goes like this:

PREREQUISITES:

1.A prophet typically receives direct revelations from God
2.A prophet usually does just that—prophesy, usually about the future
3.A prophet’s claim to prophethood is usually supported by miracles

As for receiving direct revelations from God, there are several examples from the Bible, such as Exodus 3:10, where God not only directly communicates with Moses, but also sends him out on his mission. Likewise, the Koran confirms this, by saying that Allah spoke directly to Moses (Surah 4:164).

"So, what about Muhammad, Did God speak to him direct?" Not at all; instead, he was visited by a creature [that is, a created, lesser being], who Muhammad himself was convinced was a demon or Jinn.

As for the second prerequisite, prophecy, there are several provided several examples from the Bible of prophets prophesying, such as Psalms 22: 16, which Christians believe foretells the sufferings of Jesus, by nearly two millennial.

"So, what prophecy did Muhammad bring?" The Quran plainly indicates that Muhammad had no inkling of the future (see Surah 6:50 and 7:188).

To the third prerequisite of prophet-hood: miracles. There are miracles of Moses (e.g., Ten Plagues) and Jesus (raising the dead), which are recorded in both the Bible and Koran.

So what miracles did Muhammad perform? It is at this point that Muslims tell us that the Quran itself is the greatest miracle - How is that possible when it can't raise the dead or heal the sick? The claims of the “divine” Koran are manifold—linguistically, contextually, grammatically, etymologically

Meanwhile those of the Prophet's Companions who were in Abyssynia heard the news of the prostration of the Quraysh and the rumor that the Quraysh and the Meccans had accepted Islam, so most of them returned to their kindred. But when they neared Mecca the news reached them that what they had heard of the Islam of the Meccans was false. So no-one actually entered Mecca except under protection or stealthily. When the above verse was revealed, the Quraysh said: "Muhammad regrets his words about the status of our gods before Allah and has now changed them." The two phrases that the devil had interjected upon the tongue of Allah's Messenger - Allah bless and greet him - by then were in the mouth of every idolater, and their hostility increased in intensity against those who had accepted Islam.

I have discussed this above. If the Satanic verses are not true as you claim then Mohammad prophet-hood should be in serious doubt.

Abdulsalam20

IF U CAN READ THAT MY POST ABOVE I HAVE PROVED YOU WRONG WITH SOPHISTICATED EVIDENCEPLS READ I WILL ADVIDE U TO READ IT BECAUSE U MIGHT END UP SHARING THIS FALSE INFO TO OTHERS

All you have proven is to confirm that Mohammad was influenced by devils. If you are admitting that the supposedly "greatest of all messengers" can be controlled by devils and demons - then you have proven the satanic verses was possible. Historically, the earliest Muslim scholars confirm the events that happened - Mohammad did in fact say those things to get the sympathy for his tribe. In other words, he pretended or lied - IT IS SHOCKING

this is just a smal extrct frm d writeup........because u quoted the verse but u didnt quote d verse next to it
Obviously, one should also continue reading the remainder of
the Surah:

Surah 53:21-25
What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold,
such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are
nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your
fathers, - for which God has sent down no authority
(whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what
their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come
to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just)
anything he hankers after? But it is to God that the End and
the Beginning (of all things) belong.
It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so why would we

I have responded to the above in your earlier post, read it for reference

PLS READ THE WRITEUP IF I AM WRONG U CAN STATE THE PLACE I AM WRONG

You have proven several things:

1. That Mohammad did say the Satanic verses
2. That he said it because the devil influenced or changed his speech
3. That his prophet-hood should be question

You have opened a can of worms for Islam and yourself my friend. I am await your response

cloudstar: Abdulsalam20



All you have proven is to confirm that Mohammad was influenced by devils. If you are admitting that the supposedly "greatest of all messengers" can be controlled by devils and demons - then you have proven the satanic verses was possible. Historically, the earliest Muslim scholars confirm the events that happened - Mohammad did in fact say those things to get the sympathy for his tribe. In other words, he pretended or lied - IT IS SHOCKING



I have responded to the above in your earlier post, read it for reference



You have proven several things:

1. That Mohammad did say the Satanic verses
2. That he said it because the devil influenced or changed his speech
3. That his prophet-hood should be question

You have opened a can of worms for Islam and yourself my friend. I am await your response

There is no greater lie than the Satanic verses
lie. The Prophet never said those verses. To
sum up, the story basically says that when the
Prophet was leading the prayer one time near
the Ka’bah, he was reciting Surah 53:19-20 and
then he said a verse 'those are the high-flying
cranes and indeed their intercession is to be
hoped for' so the Quraysh got happy that the
Prophet spoke so positively about their Gods
and then also prostrated with the Muslims when
they prostrated in their prayer. Then Allah sent
down a verse rebuking the Prophet Muhammad
(Surah 17:73-75) and also sent down a verse
abrogating the ‘Satanic revelation’ (Surah
22:52).
Lets see if this could make any sense…
Surah 53 was revealed in the 5 th year of
Prophethood…
Ibn Sad says that before this, in the Rajab of the
5th year of Prophethood, a small group of the
Companions had emigrated to Abyssinia. Then,
when in the Ramadan of the same year this
incident took place the news spread that the Holy
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon
him) had recited Surah An-Najm publicly in the
assembly of the Quraish and the whole assembly,
including the believers as well as the disbelievers,
had fallen down in prostration with him. When
the emigrants to Abyssinia heard this news they
formed the impression that the disbelievers of
Makkah had become Muslims. Thereupon, some
of them returned to Makkah in the Shawwal of the
5th year of Prophethood, only to learn that the
news was wrong and the conflict between Islam
and disbelief was raging as furiously as before.
Consequently, the second emigration to Abyssinia
took place, in which many more people left
Makkah.
Thus, it becomes almost certain that this Surah
was revealed in the Ramadan of 5th year of
Prophethood. (Maududi Commentary on the
Quran, Commentary on Surah 53, Source )
The verse that came rebuking the Prophet was
sent down years later…
The very first verse indicates that this Surah was
revealed on the occasion of Mi`raj (Ascension).
According to the Traditions and books on the life
of the Holy Prophet, this event happened one year
before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those,
which were revealed in the last stage of
Prophethood at Makkah. (Maududi Commentary
on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 17, Source )
And the verse that supposedly abrogated the
‘satanic revelation’ came in 1 A.H, which is
approximately 8 years after the incident…
The sudden change of the style from v. 25 shows
that probably vv. 25-78 were sent down in the
month of Zul-Hijjah in the very first year after
Hijrah . This is indicated by vv. 25-41 and
confirmed by the occasion of the revelation of vv.
39-40. (Maududi Commentary on the Quran,
Commentary on Surah 22, Source )
Are you trying to say that Muslims believed the
Satanic revelations were true revelations for
eight years? That would mean that the Quraysh
would have believed that the Muslims were
pagan worshippers. So if the Quraysh did, then
why did they keep on persecuting the Muslims
for their beliefs, which is the reason why the
Hijra took place anyway?
Obviously, one should also continue reading the
remaining of the Surah…
Surah 53:21-25
What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the
female? Behold, such would be indeed a division
most unfair! These are nothing but names which
ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which
God has sent down no authority (whatever). They
follow nothing but conjecture and what their own
souls desire! - Even though there has already
come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay,
shall man have (just) anything he hankers after?
But it is to God that the End and the Beginning (of
all things) belong.
It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so
why need a verse abrogating it?
Surah 22:52 is only a general statement…
Prophets and messengers (the distinction is
explained in n. 2503 to xix. 51) are but human.
Their actions are righteous and their motives
pure. But in judging things from a human point of
view, the suggestion may come to their mind
(from Satan) that it would be good to have power
or wealth or influence for furthering Allah's
cause, or that it may be good to conciliate some
faction which may be irreconcilable. In fact, in
Allah's Plan, it may be the opposite. Allah, in His
mercy and inspiration, will cancel any false or
vain suggestions of this kind, and confirm and
strengthen His own Commands and make known
His Will in His Signs or revelations . (Yusuf Ali
Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on
Surah 22:52)
(Never sent We a messenger or a Prophet before
thee) O Muhammad (but when he) the Prophet
(recited (the message)) or spoke (Satan proposed
(opposition) about that which he recited thereof)
such that he does not act upon it. (But Allah
abolisheth) but Allah elucidates (that which Satan
proposeth) on the tongue of His Prophet such that
he does not act upon it. (Then Allah establisheth)
then He clarifies (His revelations) for His Prophet
in order that he acts upon them. (Allah is
Knower) of that which Satan proposes, (Wise) He
decrees to abolish it; (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min
Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, Commentary on Surah 22:52,
Source )

THE FACT IS THAT ISLAM IS WELL DOCUMENTED NOT LIKE CHRISTIANITY..........I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION TWICE NOW........U QUOTE SURATUL NAJM TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM .......DID YOU READ THE NEXT VERSE NEXT TO IT?.........
I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR FIRST QUESTION GBAM SO CONCERNING THE SATANIC VERSE THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT IN ISLAM
SECONDLY YOU SAID PROPHETS RECEIVE DIRECT REVELATION FROM GOD THEN U WILL EXPLAIN THIS PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE WHICH GABRIEL APPEAR TO THEM MAYBE THEY ARE POSSESED BY DEVIL
ABOUT GABRIEL: His name means 'strength of God,' a fitting title
for the angel appointed to deliver the words of
God. Gabriel waited for instructions from God,
and obeyed Him without question. " For the word
of God is living and powerful, " and who better to
deliver it than one of God's most devoted angels. (Hebrews 4:12).
Whereas the mighty warrior angel Michael has incredible strength and power, Gabriel is obedient and sensitive to the will of God.
Throughout Scripture, Gabriel was assigned to deliver specific and time-sensitive messages to God's people, regardless of content.
Whether it was to announce the conception of a much-longed-for child, or to prophesy the destruction of an entire city, God entrusted
Gabriel to deliver the entire message, nothing more or less.

SO EXPLAIN THIS:
To Hagar, Sarai's maidservant, to encourage her to return to her mistress.(Genesis 16:7-12)
To Abram, to prophesy the birth of Isaac and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 18)
To Lot and his family, to help them escape from Sodom. (Genesis 19:1-29)
To Hagar, a second time to promise the preservation of the life of Ishmael. (Genesis 21:17-20)
To Abraham, to prevent the sacrifice of Isaac and to confirm God's covenant. (Genesis 22:11-19)
To Jacob, to instruct him to return to his own homeland. (Genesis 31:11-13)
To Israel, to judge them for their incomplete conquest of the Promised Land. (Judges 2:1-3)
To Gideon, to encourage him to stand against the Midianites. (Judges 6:11-23)
To Minoan and his wife, from the tribe of Dan, to prophesy the birth of Samson. (Judges 13:1-24)
To Elijah, to strengthen him for his long journey. (I Kings 19:5-
SO LEARN BEFORE YOU SPEAK

Christians often ask what miracles the prophet
Muhammad performed; many of them even
make the claim that the Quran and the hadiths
record no miracles done by the prophet.
However so, it seems that I am reading a
different Quran and hadith then, because you
would have to be blind, or a big liar to claim
that there are no recorded miracles of the
prophet found in Islamic sources.
I wont label these Christians who make this
claim as liars, no, after all most of these
Christians do not do the research themselves,
rather it’s their own Christian scholars who
deceive them with their lies against Islam,
such as Answering-Islam, prophet of doom,
faith freedom etc. It is these sites and Christian
scholars out there who make some of the
biggest lies against Islam, deceiving their
Christian people into having wrong ideas about
Islam, so when you have normal Christians
coming up to you with arguments, you must
know that this person is simply arguing from
what he saw and heard from Christian polemic
against Islam.
For instance, most of you are most likely
familiar with Christians always coming up
with quotes from Tabari, Ibn Ishaq, and some
other works. They often quote these works and
think they are making big arguments, yet they
always seem to quote specific quotes from
these books, and when you ask for a context,
they can never provide it, the reason being is
because they are ALL quoting from that goon
Craig Winn’s book.
So this argument put forth by Christians, that
the prophet Muhammad performed no miracles
according to Islamic sources is another
example of Christians getting bad information
from Christian apologists.
For this article, I shall show some miracles the
prophet Muhammad performed, ending this
sad lie that there are no miracles recorded in
Islamic sources. Now whether Christians will
agree with the sources I quote is IRRELEVENT,
I am not asking any Christian to believe in
these miracles, what I am doing is showing you
that there are miracles recorded in Islamic
sources, so therefore you should stop saying
there aren’t any, and you should stop asking
Muslims to show you miracles performed by
the prophet Muhammad with the pre-
conceived notion that he did none. As the
saying goes, you cant have your cake and eat
it, you cant claim the prophet performed no
miracles, and then when I show you the
miracles you say ‘oh well those sources are
forged and lies’. You can’t have it both ways,
you say the prophet Muhammad performed no
miracles according to Islam, I shall show you
that this claim is FALSE.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 13, Number 55:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Once in the lifetime of the Prophet (p.b.u.h ) the people
were afflicted with drought (famine). While the Prophet
was delivering the Khutba on a Friday, a Bedouin stood up
and said, "O, Allah's Apostle! Our possessions are being
destroyed and the children are hungry; Please invoke Allah
(for rain) ". So the Prophet raised his hands. At that time
there was not a trace of cloud in the sky. By Him in
Whose Hands my soul is as soon as he lowered his
hands, clouds gathered like mountains, and before he
got down from the pulpit, I saw the rain falling on the
beard of the Prophet. It rained that day, the next day,
the third day, the fourth day till the next Friday . The
same Bedouin or another man stood up and said, "O
Allah's Apostle! The houses have collapsed, our possessions
and livestock have been drowned; Please invoke Allah (to
protect us)" . So the Prophet I raised both his hands and
said, "O Allah! Round about us and not on us". So, in
whatever direction he pointed with his hands, the
clouds dispersed and cleared away, and Medina's (sky)
became clear as a hole in between the clouds. The valley
of Qanat remained flooded, for one month, none came
from outside but talked about the abundant rain.
From ‘ Ibn Kathirs The Life of the Prophet Muhammad, Al-
sira Al-Nabawiyya, volume 2’ :
HOW THE PROPHET (SAAS) REPLACED
QATADA’S EYE:
Al-Bayhaqi stated, in the Dalail (The Signs), “ Abu Sad al-
Malini informed us quoting Abu Ahmed b. Adi, quoting
Abu Yala, quoting Yahya al-Himmant, quoting Abd al-Aziz
b. Sulayman b. al-Ghasil, from Asim b. Umar b. Qatada,
from his father, from his grandfather Qatada b. al-Numan,
that his eye was wounded at Badr and that its pupil came
down on his cheekbone. They were about to slice it off, but
asked the Messenger of God (SAAS) who said they
should not do this. He then said a prayer for him,
covering his cheek with his palm. And later you could
not tell which of his eyes had been struck!”
According to one account, this became the better eye.
An account came down to us from the Commander of the
Believers, Umar b. Abd al- Aziz that when he was told this
account by Asim b. Umar b. Qatada, he also recited:
“I am the son of him on whose cheek his eye descended,
which was replaced so well by the hand of the Chosen-
One .”
Upon hearing this, Umar b. Abd al-Aziz, God bless him,
quoted very appropriately the verse of Umayya b. Abd al-
Salt of Ibn Dhu Yazin,
“These fine qualities are not like two bowls with milk
merely whitening the water that soon becomes urine.” (Pg
298)

Food Multiplication
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 780:
Narrated Jabir:
My father had died in debt. So I came to the Prophet and
said, "My father (died) leaving unpaid debts, and I have
nothing except the yield of his date palms; and their yield
for many years will not cover his debts. So please come
with me, so that the creditors may not misbehave with
me." The Prophet went round one of the heaps of dates
and invoked (Allah), and then did the same with another
heap and sat on it and said, "Measure (for them)." He paid
them their rights and what remained was as much as had
been paid to them.
Water Multiplication
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 779:
Narrated 'Abdullah:
We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you
people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with
Allah's Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He
said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people
brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his
hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the
Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from
among the fingers of Allah's Apostle , and no doubt, we
heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten
(by him).
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 777:
Narrated Al-Bara:
We were one-thousand-and-four-hundred persons on the
day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), and (at) Al-Hudaibiya
(there) was a well. We drew out its water not leaving even
a single drop. The Prophet sat at the edge of the well and
asked for some water with which he rinsed his mouth and
then he threw it out into the well. We stayed for a short
while and then drew water from the well and quenched
our thirst, and even our riding animals drank water to
their satisfaction.
Volume 1, Book 7, Number 340:
Narrated 'Imran:
Once we were traveling with the Prophet and we carried
on traveling till the last part of the night and then we
(halted at a place) and slept (deeply). There is nothing
sweeter than sleep for a traveler in the last part of the
night. So it was only the heat of the sun that made us to
wake up and the first to wake up was so and so, then so
and so and then so and so (the narrator 'Auf said that Abu
Raja' had told him their names but he had forgotten them)
and the fourth person to wake up was 'Umar bin Al-
Khattab. And whenever the Prophet used to sleep, nobody
would wake him up till he himself used to get up as we did
not know what was happening (being revealed) to him in
his sleep. So, 'Umar got up and saw the condition of the
people, and he was a strict man, so he said, "Allahu Akbar"
and raised his voice with Takbir , and kept on saying it
loudly till the Prophet got up because of it. When he got
up, the people informed him about what had happened to
them. He said, "There is no harm (or it will not be
harmful). Depart!" So they departed from that place, and
after covering some distance the Prophet stopped and
asked for some water to perform the ablution. So he
performed the ablution and the call for the prayer was
pronounced and he led the people in prayer. After he
finished from the prayer, he saw a man sitting aloof who
had not prayed with the people. He asked, "O so and so!
What has prevented you from praying with us?" He
replied, "I am junub and there is no water. " The Prophet
said, "Perform tayammum with (clean) earth and that is
sufficient for you."
Then the Prophet proceeded on and the people
complained to him of thirst. Thereupon he got down and
called a person (the narrator 'Auf added that Abu Raja'
had named him but he had forgotten) and 'Ali, and
ordered them to go and bring water. So they went in
search of water and met a woman who was sitting on her
camel between two bags of water. They asked, "Where can
we find water?" She replied, "I was there (at the place of
water) this hour yesterday and my people are behind
me." They requested her to accompany them. She asked,
"Where?" They said, "To Allah's Apostle ." She said, "Do
you mean the man who is called the Sabi' , (with a new
religion)?" They replied, "Yes, the same person. So come
along." They brought her to the Prophet and narrated the
whole story. He said, "Help her to dismount." The Prophet
asked for a pot, then he opened the mouths of the bags and
poured some water into the pot. Then he closed the big
openings of the bags and opened the small ones and the
people were called upon to drink and water their animals.
So they all watered their animals and they (too) all
quenched their thirst and also gave water to others and
last of all the Prophet gave a pot full of water to the
person who was junub and told him to pour it over his
body. The woman was standing and watching all that
which they were doing with her water. By Allah, when her
water bags were returned the looked like as if they were
more full (of water) than they had been before (Miracle
of Allah's Apostle) Then the Prophet ordered us to collect
something for her; so dates, flour and sawiq were
collected which amounted to a good meal that was put in a
piece of cloth. She was helped to ride on her camel and
that cloth full of food-stuff was also placed in front of her
and then the Prophet said to her, "We have not taken your
water but Allah has given water to us." She returned home
late. Her relatives asked her: "O so and so what has
delayed you?" She said, "A strange thing! Two men met me
and took me to the man who is called the Sabi' and he did
such and such a thing. By Allah, he is either the greatest
magician between this and this (gesturing with her index
and middle fingers raising them towards the sky indicating
the heaven and the earth) or he is Allah's true Apostle."
Afterwards the Muslims used to attack the pagans around
her abode but never touched her village. One day she said
to her people, "I think that these people leave you
purposely. Have you got any inclination to Islam?" They
obeyed her and all of them embraced Islam.
Abu 'Abdultah said: The word saba'a means "The one who
has deserted his old religion and embraced a new
religion." Abul 'Ailya said, "The Sabis are a sect of people
of the Scripture who recite the Book of Psalms."

Lights to guide Companions
Volume 1, Book 8, Number 454:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Two of the companions of the Prophet departed from him
on a dark night and were led by two lights like lamps
(going in front of them from Allah as a miracle) lighting
the way in front of them, and when they parted, each of
them was accompanied by one of these lights till he
reached their (respective) houses.
Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 783:
Narrated Ibn Umar:
The Prophet used to deliver his sermons while standing
beside a trunk of a datepalm. When he had the pulpit
made, he used it instead. The trunk started crying and the
Prophet went to it, rubbing his hand over it (to stop its
crying).
Glorification of Allah by the Prophet's meals
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 779:
Narrated 'Abdullah:
We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you
people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with
Allah's Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He
said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people
brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his
hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the
Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from
among the fingers of Allah's Apostle, and no doubt, we
heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten
(by him).
The expulsion of a liar's corpse by the Earth
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814:
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read
Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the
revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to
Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows
nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah
caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the
morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out.
They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his
companions. They dug the grave of our companion and
took his body out of it because he had run away from
them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in
the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his
body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his
companions. They dug the grave of our companion and
threw his body outside it, for he had run away from
them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could,
but in the morning they again saw that the earth had
thrown his body out. So they believed that what had
befallen him was not done by human beings and had to
leave him thrown (on the ground).
The Speech of the Wolf
Volume 3, Book 39, Number 517:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "While a man was riding a cow, it
turned towards him and said, 'I have not been created for
this purpose (i.e. carrying), I have been created for
sloughing.l" The Prophet added, "I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar
believe in the story." The Prophet went on, "A wolf caught
a sheep, and when the shepherd chased it, the wolf said,
'Who will be its guard on the day of wild beasts, when
there will be no shepherd for it except me?' "After
narrating it, the Prophet said, "I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar too
believe it." Abu Salama (a sub-narrator) said, "Abu Bakr
and 'Umar were not present then."
It has been written that a wolf also spoke to one of the
companions of the Prophet near Medina as narrated in
Fath-al-Bari :Narrated Unais bin 'Amr: Ahban bin Aus said,
"I was amongst my sheep. Suddenly a wolf caught a sheep
and I shouted at it. The wolf sat on its tail and addressed
me, saying, 'Who will look after it (i.e. the sheep) when
you will be busy and not able to look after it? Do you
forbid me the provision which Allah has provided me?' "
Ahban added, "I clapped my hands and said, 'By Allah, I
have never seen anything more curious and wonderful
than this!' On that the wolf said, 'There is something (more
curious) and wonderful than this; that is, Allah's Apostle in
those palm trees, inviting people to Allah (i.e. Islam).'
"Unais bin 'Amr further said, "Then Ahban went to Allah's
Apostle and informed him what happened and embraced
Islam.)" palm trees or other trees and share the fruits with
me."
The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem
(Arabic: Israa ) and Ascent to the Heavens
(Arabic: Miraj )
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
Regarding the Statement of Allah"
"And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens)
which We made you see (as an actual eye witness) was only
made as a trial for the people." (17.60)
Ibn Abbas added: The sights which Allah's Apostle was
shown on the Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ul
Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) were actual sights, (not dreams).
And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in the Quran is the tree
of Zaqqum (itself) .
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 462:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The Prophet said, "On the night of my Ascent to the
Heaven, I saw Moses who was a tall brown curly-haired
man as if he was one of the men of Shan'awa tribe, and I
saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate
complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of
lank hair. I also saw Malik, the gate-keeper of the (Hell)
Fire and Ad-Dajjal amongst the signs which Allah showed
me." (The Prophet then recited the Holy Verse): "So be not
you in doubt of meeting him' when you met Moses during
the night of Mi'raj over the heavens" (32.23)
Narrated Anas and Abu Bakra: "The Prophet said, "The
angels will guard Medina from Ad-Dajjal (who will not be
able to enter the city of Medina)."
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 227:
Narrated Abbas bin Malik:
Malik bin Sasaa said that Allah's Apostle described to them
his Night Journey saying, "While I was lying in Al-Hatim or
Al-Hijr, suddenly someone came to me and cut my body
open from here to here." I asked Al-Jarud who was by my
side, "What does he mean?" He said, "It means from his
throat to his pubic area," or said, "From the top of the
chest." The Prophet further said, "He then took out my
heart. Then a gold tray of Belief was brought to me and
my heart was washed and was filled (with Belief) and then
returned to its original place. Then a white animal which
was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was
brought to me." (On this Al-Jarud asked, "Was it the Buraq,
O Abu Hamza?" I (i.e. Anas) replied in the affirmative).
The Prophet said, "The animal's step (was so wide that it)
reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal's
sight. I was carried on it, and Gabriel set out with me till
we reached the nearest heaven.
When he asked for the gate to be opened, it was asked,
'Who is it?' Gabriel answered, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who
is accompanying you?' Gabriel replied, 'Muhammad.' It
was asked, 'Has Muhammad been called?' Gabriel replied
in the affirmative. Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What
an excellent visit his is!' The gate was opened, and when I
went over the first heaven, I saw Adam there. Gabriel said
(to me). 'This is your father, Adam; pay him your
greetings.' So I greeted him and he returned the greeting
to me and said, 'You are welcomed, O pious son and pious
Prophet.' Then Gabriel ascended with me till we reached
the second heaven. Gabriel asked for the gate to be
opened. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel answered,
'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel
replied, 'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been called?'
Gabriel answered in the affirmative. Then it was said, 'He
is welcomed. What an excellent visit his is!' The gate was
opened.
When I went over the second heaven, there I saw Yahya
(i.e. John) and 'Isa (i.e. Jesus) who were cousins of each
other. Gabriel said (to me), 'These are John and Jesus; pay
them your greetings.' So I greeted them and both of them
returned my greetings to me and said, 'You are welcomed,
O pious brother and pious Prophet.' Then Gabriel
ascended with me to the third heaven and asked for its
gate to be opened. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel
replied, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is accompanying
you?' Gabriel replied, 'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he
been called?' Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it
was said, 'He is welcomed, what an excellent visit his is!'
The gate was opened, and when I went over the third
heaven there I saw Joseph. Gabriel said (to me), 'This is
Joseph; pay him your greetings.' So I greeted him and he
returned the greeting to me and said, 'You are welcomed,
O pious brother and pious Prophet.' Then Gabriel
ascended with me to the fourth heaven and asked for its
gate to be opened. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel
replied, 'Gabriel' It was asked, 'Who is accompanying you?'
Gabriel replied, 'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been
called?' Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it was
said, 'He is welcomed, what an excel lent visit his is!'
The gate was opened, and when I went over the fourth
heaven, there I saw Idris. Gabriel said (to me), 'This is
Idris; pay him your greetings.' So I greeted him and he
returned the greeting to me and said, 'You are welcomed,
O pious brother and pious Prophet.' Then Gabriel
ascended with me to the fifth heaven and asked for its
gate to be opened. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel
replied, 'Gabriel.' It was asked. 'Who is accompanying
you?' Gabriel replied, 'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he
been called?' Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it
was said He is welcomed, what an excellent visit his is! So
when I went over the fifth heaven, there I saw Harun (i.e.
Aaron), Gabriel said, (to me). This is Aaron; pay him your
greetings.' I greeted him and he returned the greeting to
me and said, 'You are welcomed, O pious brother and
pious Prophet.' Then Gabriel ascended with me to the
sixth heaven and asked for its gate to be opened. It was
asked. 'Who is it?' Gabriel replied, 'Gabriel.' It was asked,
'Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel replied, 'Muhammad.'
It was asked, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel replied in the
affirmative. It was said, 'He is welcomed. What an
excellent visit his is!'
When I went (over the sixth heaven), there I saw Moses.
Gabriel said (to me),' This is Moses; pay him your greeting.
So I greeted him and he returned the greetings to me and
said, 'You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious
Prophet.' When I left him (i.e. Moses) he wept. Someone
asked him, 'What makes you weep?' Moses said, 'I weep
because after me there has been sent (as Prophet) a
young man whose followers will enter Paradise in greater
numbers than my followers.' Then Gabriel ascended with
me to the seventh heaven and asked for its gate to be
opened. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel replied, 'Gabriel.'
It was asked,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel replied,
'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel
replied in the affirmative. Then it was said, 'He is
welcomed. What an excellent visit his is!'
So when I went (over the seventh heaven), there I saw
Abraham. Gabriel said (to me), 'This is your father; pay
your greetings to him.' So I greeted him and he returned
the greetings to me and said, 'You are welcomed, O pious
son and pious Prophet.' Then I was made to ascend to
Sidrat-ul-Muntaha (i.e. the Lote Tree of the utmost
boundary) Behold! Its fruits were like the jars of Hajr (i.e.
a place near Medina) and its leaves were as big as the ears
of elephants. Gabriel said, 'This is the Lote Tree of the
utmost boundary) . Behold ! There ran four rivers, two
were hidden and two were visible, I asked, 'What are these
two kinds of rivers, O Gabriel?' He replied,' As for the
hidden rivers, they are two rivers in Paradise and the
visible rivers are the Nile and the Euphrates.'
Then Al-Bait-ul-Ma'mur (i.e. the Sacred House) was shown
to me and a container full of wine and another full of milk
and a third full of honey were brought to me. I took the
milk. Gabriel remarked, 'This is the Islamic religion which
you and your followers are following.' Then the prayers
were enjoined on me: They were fifty prayers a day.
When I returned, I passed by Moses who asked (me),
'What have you been ordered to do?' I replied, 'I have
been ordered to offer fifty prayers a day.' Moses said,
'Your followers cannot bear fifty prayers a day, and by
Allah, I have tested people before you, and I have tried
my level best with Bani Israel (in vain). Go back to your
Lord and ask for reduction to lessen your followers'
burden.' So I went back, and Allah reduced ten prayers for
me. Then again I came to Moses, but he repeated the same
as he had said before. Then again I went back to Allah and
He reduced ten more prayers. When I came back to Moses
he said the same, I went back to Allah and He ordered me
to observe ten prayers a day. When I came back to Moses,
he repeated the same advice, so I went back to Allah and
was ordered to observe five prayers a day.
When I came back to Moses, he said, 'What have you been
ordered?' I replied, 'I have been ordered to observe five
prayers a day.' He said, 'Your followers cannot bear five
prayers a day, and no doubt, I have got an experience of
the people before you, and I have tried my level best with
Bani Israel, so go back to your Lord and ask for reduction
to lessen your follower's burden.' I said, 'I have requested
so much of my Lord that I feel ashamed, but I am satisfied
now and surrender to Allah's Order.' When I left, I heard
a voice saying, 'I have passed My Order and have lessened
the burden of My Worshippers."

INDEED ISLAM HAS BEEN PERFECTED

Abdulsalam20: INDEED ISLAM HAS BEEN PERFECTED

I actually cannot believe I just read all the trash you posted above.

You just posted BS you know...
You say he performed miracles. Where are the Quran verses to backup your claim.

You don't just come here and write bullsh*t to us from some hadith.. You have to use the Quran to backup your claim.

Anyone could have lied he performed miracles..

Evidence, Proof; does this mean anything to you.. I wonder if you read at all.

Here's the Part that really pissed me off..

I am not asking any Christian to believe in
these miracles, what I am doing is showing you
that there are miracles recorded in Islamic
sources, so therefore you should stop saying
there aren’t any, and you should stop asking
Muslims to show you miracles performed by
the prophet Muhammad with the pre-
conceived notion that he did none. As the
saying goes, you cant have your cake and eat
it, you cant claim the prophet performed no
miracles, and then when I show you the
miracles you say ‘oh well those sources are
forged and lies’. You can’t have it both ways,
you say the prophet Muhammad performed no
miracles according to Islam, I shall show you
that this claim is FALSE.

Like WTF??

BossTtdiamonds:

I actually cannot believe I just read all the trash you posted above.

You just posted BS you know...
You say he performed miracles. Where are the Quran verses to backup your claim.

You don't just come here and write bullsh*t to us from some hadith.. You have to use the Quran to backup your claim.

Anyone could have lied he performed miracles..

Evidence, Proof; does this mean anything to you.. I wonder if you read at all.

Here's the Part that really pissed me off..


Like WTF??

His problem is that he has no historical basis for his claims. Debating him is laughable. He doesn't know his own religious history

Abdulsalam20

There is no greater lie than the Satanic verses lie. The Prophet never said those verses. To sum up, the story basically says that when the Prophet was leading the prayer one time near the Ka’bah, he was reciting Surah 53:19-20 and then he said a verse 'those are the high-flyingcranes and indeed their intercession is to be hoped for' so the Quraysh got happy that the Prophet spoke so positively about their Gods
and then also prostrated with the Muslims when they prostrated in their prayer. Then Allah sent down a verse rebuking the Prophet Muhammad
(Surah 17:73-75)

It's in your Quran, it clearly mentions Mohammad calling on pagan goddesses that were worshiped by his tribe. If he wanted to rebuke them, he should have rebuked them right there but instead he wanted to appease them and spoke positively about their gods. Why didn't he tell them that their gods and Allah are not the same? Didn't he know Allah is one and can't be compared to other demi-gods?

It's glaring that your prophet wanted favors from his tribe and encouraged their pagan beliefs to make atonement. Secondly, you didn't answer me - how was the devil able to convince and influence Mohammad? So, Mohammad was possessed by the devil?

and also sent down a verseabrogating the ‘Satanic revelation’ (Surah22:52).

Almighty God is not arbitrary, He doesn't change His mind when He feels like it. God is eternal and when and if He says something - THAT'S IT - He doesn't change. So, if Allah is telling Mohammad something at one point then changing His mind another time, it means that Allah wasn't sure about what he said in the first place. So, it's either Mohammad that is lying on Allah or Allah can't be God Almighty as God Almighty doesn't change.

Lets see if this could make any sense…
Surah 53 was revealed in the 5 th year of
Prophethood…
Ibn Sad says that before this, in the Rajab of the
5th year of Prophethood, a small group of the
Companions had emigrated to Abyssinia. Then,
when in the Ramadan of the same year this
incident took place the news spread that the Holy
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon
him) had recited Surah An-Najm publicly in the
assembly of the Quraish and the whole assembly,
including the believers as well as the disbelievers,
had fallen down in prostration with him. When
the emigrants to Abyssinia heard this news they
formed the impression that the disbelievers of
Makkah had become Muslims. Thereupon, some
of them returned to Makkah in the Shawwal of the
5th year of Prophethood, only to learn that the
news was wrong and the conflict between Islam
and disbelief was raging as furiously as before.
Consequently, the second emigration to Abyssinia
took place, in which many more people left
Makkah.
Thus, it becomes almost certain that this Surah
was revealed in the Ramadan of 5th year of
Prophethood. (Maududi Commentary on the
Quran, Commentary on Surah 53, Source )
The verse that came rebuking the Prophet was
sent down years later…
The very first verse indicates that this Surah was
revealed on the occasion of Mi`raj (Ascension).
According to the Traditions and books on the life
of the Holy Prophet, this event happened one year
before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those,
which were revealed in the last stage of
Prophethood at Makkah. (Maududi Commentary
on the Quran, Commentary on Surah 17, Source )
And the verse that supposedly abrogated the
‘satanic revelation’ came in 1 A.H, which is
approximately 8 years after the incident…
The sudden change of the style from v. 25 shows
that probably vv. 25-78 were sent down in the
month of Zul-Hijjah in the very first year after
Hijrah . This is indicated by vv. 25-41 and
confirmed by the occasion of the revelation of vv.
39-40. (Maududi Commentary on the Quran,
Commentary on Surah 22, Source )
Are you trying to say that Muslims believed the
Satanic revelations were true revelations for
eight years? That would mean that the Quraysh
would have believed that the Muslims were
pagan worshippers. So if the Quraysh did, then
why did they keep on persecuting the Muslims
for their beliefs, which is the reason why the
Hijra took place anyway?
Obviously, one should also continue reading the
remaining of the Surah…
Surah 53:21-25
What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the
female? Behold, such would be indeed a division
most unfair! These are nothing but names which
ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which
God has sent down no authority (whatever). They
follow nothing but conjecture and what their own
souls desire! - Even though there has already
come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay,
shall man have (just) anything he hankers after?
But it is to God that the End and the Beginning (of
all things) belong.
It clearly condemns the deity of these idols, so
why need a verse abrogating it?
Surah 22:52 is only a general statement…
Prophets and messengers (the distinction is
explained in n. 2503 to xix. 51) are but human.
Their actions are righteous and their motives
pure. But in judging things from a human point of
view, the suggestion may come to their mind
(from Satan) that it would be good to have power
or wealth or influence for furthering Allah's
cause, or that it may be good to conciliate some
faction which may be irreconcilable. In fact, in
Allah's Plan, it may be the opposite. Allah, in His
mercy and inspiration, will cancel any false or
vain suggestions of this kind, and confirm and
strengthen His own Commands and make known
His Will in His Signs or revelations . (Yusuf Ali
Commentary on the Quran, Commentary on
Surah 22:52)
(Never sent We a messenger or a Prophet before
thee) O Muhammad (but when he) the Prophet
(recited (the message)) or spoke (Satan proposed
(opposition) about that which he recited thereof)
such that he does not act upon it. (But Allah
abolisheth) but Allah elucidates (that which Satan
proposeth) on the tongue of His Prophet such that
he does not act upon it. (Then Allah establisheth)
then He clarifies (His revelations) for His Prophet
in order that he acts upon them. (Allah is
Knower) of that which Satan proposes, (Wise) He
decrees to abolish it; (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min
Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, Commentary on Surah 22:52,

I have given you an ample explanation above. All you are doing is repeating yourself. If you agree that Mohammad said the satanic verses because he was influenced by satan then you have to admit that nearly anything and everything Mohammad said could have been influenced by satan - THAT IS A SHOCKING REVELATION for Islam. Go and ponder over that

Abdulsalam20

THE FACT IS THAT ISLAM IS WELL DOCUMENTED NOT LIKE CHRISTIANITY..........I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION TWICE NOW........U QUOTE SURATUL NAJM TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM .......DID YOU READ THE NEXT VERSE NEXT TO IT?.........
I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR FIRST QUESTION GBAM SO CONCERNING THE SATANIC VERSE THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT IN ISLAM

But it is - it is clearly stated in your Quran. You are trying to explain it away. Islamic historians recorded it hundreds of years before you decided to give a response to me and their conclusion was as the same as mine: Mohammad was deceived by Satan

Bros, Christianity existed 600 years before Islam was even thought about. Go and read up on your history lessons. The Quran is not a history book; it's a compilation of events and sayings of Mohammad from a supposedly heavenly creature that tried to kill him. God's angels don't attempt to kill God's prophets.

SECONDLY YOU SAID PROPHETS RECEIVE DIRECT REVELATION FROM GOD THEN U WILL EXPLAIN THIS PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE WHICH GABRIEL APPEAR TO THEM MAYBE THEY ARE POSSESED BY DEVIL
ABOUT GABRIEL: His name means 'strength of God,' a fitting title
for the angel appointed to deliver the words of
God. Gabriel waited for instructions from God,
and obeyed Him without question. " For the word
of God is living and powerful, " and who better to
deliver it than one of God's most devoted angels. (Hebrews 4:12).

Another problem of yours is that you don't know how to read. I specifically mentioned Moses and Joshua. God talked with Moses directly and didn't use Angels. God's voice came from Heaven and said about Jesus - "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased". In Islam, you claim that Mohammad was greater than all the prophets and he is the seal of the prophets. If that is the case, God would have communicated with him directly, no?

Also funny is that you are using the Bible to defend your claim. You said Islam has no history than Christianity but yet most of the Islamic events can't be explained without the Torah and the Bible. You are truly pathe.tic

Whereas the mighty warrior angel Michael has incredible strength and power, Gabriel is obedient and sensitive to the will of God.
Throughout Scripture, Gabriel was assigned to deliver specific and time-sensitive messages to God's people, regardless of content.
Whether it was to announce the conception of a much-longed-for child, or to prophesy the destruction of an entire city, God entrusted
Gabriel to deliver the entire message, nothing more or less.

Which scripture are you referring to? Are you referring to the Bible?

SO EXPLAIN THIS:
To Hagar, Sarai's maidservant, to encourage her to return to her mistress.(Genesis 16:7-12)
To Abram, to prophesy the birth of Isaac and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 18)
To Lot and his family, to help them escape from Sodom. (Genesis 19:1-29)
To Hagar, a second time to promise the preservation of the life of Ishmael. (Genesis 21:17-20)
To Abraham, to prevent the sacrifice of Isaac and to confirm God's covenant. (Genesis 22:11-19)
To Jacob, to instruct him to return to his own homeland. (Genesis 31:11-13)
To Israel, to judge them for their incomplete conquest of the Promised Land. (Judges 2:1-3)
To Gideon, to encourage him to stand against the Midianites. (Judges 6:11-23)
To Minoan and his wife, from the tribe of Dan, to prophesy the birth of Samson. (Judges 13:1-24)
To Elijah, to strengthen him for his long journey. (I Kings 19:5-
SO LEARN BEFORE YOU SPEAK

Try and grow some sense, I mentioned Moses as compared to Mohammad. I never said God doesn't use Angels to minister to his people and prophets. You have so far been successfully in displaying your grammar comprehension

Abdulsalam20

Christians often ask what miracles the prophet
Muhammad performed; many of them even
make the claim that the Quran and the hadiths
record no miracles done by the prophet.
However so, it seems that I am reading a
different Quran and hadith then, because you
would have to be blind, or a big liar to claim
that there are no recorded miracles of the
prophet found in Islamic sources.

Can you show me one place he raised the dead or healed the sick? Also, don't confuse magic with miracles. There is a reason no miracle events are recorded in the Quran and that is because Mohammad didn't do any.

For example, it is recorded in the Hadith that when Mohammad was about to eat, his food sang praises to him. Ignorant fools will believe such tales but such can't merit the title of miracles.

Jesus raised the dead, healed the sick, cast out demons, make the lame to walk, healed the leper. Miracles bring substance and add value to other people lives. Even at that, at the name of Jesus today people are healed, they can walk, talk, people are raised from the dead. Mohammad name is powerless Bros, it wasn't able to save him or any Muslim

My question to you is this - if Mohammad did instead heal people and caused rain to fall, why did he die from the poison of a Jewish woman?

Abdulsalam20

We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you
people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with
Allah's Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He
said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people
brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his
hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the
Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from
among the fingers of Allah's Apostle , and no doubt, we
heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten
(by him).

So food can sing praises . 7th century illiterates can believe such fairy tales but it shocks me that in this day and age one can believe such

We were one-thousand-and-four-hundred persons on the
day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), and (at) Al-Hudaibiya
(there) was a well. We drew out its water not leaving even
a single drop. The Prophet sat at the edge of the well and
asked for some water with which he rinsed his mouth and
then he threw it out into the well. We stayed for a short
while and then drew water from the well and quenched
our thirst, and even our riding animals drank water to
their satisfaction.

So, why didn't the Quran record any of these miracles?

Once we were traveling with the Prophet and we carried
on traveling till the last part of the night and then we
(halted at a place) and slept (deeply). There is nothing
sweeter than sleep for a traveler in the last part of the
night. So it was only the heat of the sun that made us to
wake up and the first to wake up was so and so, then so
and so and then so and so (the narrator 'Auf said that Abu
Raja' had told him their names but he had forgotten them)
and the fourth person to wake up was 'Umar bin Al-
Khattab. And whenever the Prophet used to sleep, nobody
would wake him up till he himself used to get up as we did
not know what was happening (being revealed) to him in
his sleep. So, 'Umar got up and saw the condition of the
people, and he was a strict man, so he said, "Allahu Akbar"
and raised his voice with Takbir , and kept on saying it
loudly till the Prophet got up because of it. When he got
up, the people informed him about what had happened to
them. He said, "There is no harm (or it will not be
harmful). Depart!" So they departed from that place, and
after covering some distance the Prophet stopped and
asked for some water to perform the ablution. So he
performed the ablution and the call for the prayer was
pronounced and he led the people in prayer. After he
finished from the prayer, he saw a man sitting aloof who
had not prayed with the people. He asked, "O so and so!
What has prevented you from praying with us?" He
replied, "I am junub and there is no water. " The Prophet
said, "Perform tayammum with (clean) earth and that is
sufficient for you."

So using sand to clean yourself instead of water is a miracle? How does sand make you clean? Can you put sand in your nose?

There is nothing you are saying that is new. Please show me one miracle Mohammad performed in the Quran and compare the same to Jesus in the same Quran

Abdulsalam20: INDEED ISLAM HAS BEEN PERFECTED

You bet it has - if I have to use sand to clean myself before I pray - it has definitely been "PERFECTED"

cloudstar: Abdulsalam20



It's in your Quran, it clearly mentions Mohammad calling on pagan goddesses that were worshiped by his tribe. If he wanted to rebuke them, he should have rebuked them right there but instead he wanted to appease them and spoke positively about their gods. Why didn't he tell them that their gods and Allah are not the same? Didn't he know Allah is one and can't be compared to other demi-gods?

It's glaring that your prophet wanted favors from his tribe and encouraged their pagan beliefs to make atonement. Secondly, you didn't answer me - how was the devil able to convince and influence Mohammad? So, Mohammad was possessed by the devil?



Almighty God is not arbitrary, He doesn't change His mind when He feels like it. God is eternal and when and if He says something - THAT'S IT - He doesn't change. So, if Allah is telling Mohammad something at one point then changing His mind another time, it means that Allah wasn't sure about what he said in the first place. So, it's either Mohammad that is lying on Allah or Allah can't be God Almighty as God Almighty doesn't change.



I have given you an ample explanation above. All you are doing is repeating yourself. If you agree that Mohammad said the satanic verses because he was influenced by satan then you have to admit that nearly anything and everything Mohammad said could have been influenced by satan - THAT IS A SHOCKING REVELATION for Islam. Go and ponder over that

AS I HAVE SAID MUHAMMAD WAS NEVER POSSESED BY SATAN I GAVE U ENOUGH EVIDENCE IF U READ THE VERSE NEXT TO IT I WILL SEE THAT ALL THESE IDOL ARE CONDEMNED BUT YOUR PROBLEM IS U ALWAYS REPEAT ONE POINT YOU SEE I CANT BLAME YOU MAN BY NATURE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL EXCEPT FEW.........I DONT ARGUE WITH GOONS AFTER GLARING EVIDENCE PROVIDED FOR YOU U STILL DENY IT............. I LAUGH AT U BECAUSE U SAID NO PROPHET RECEIVE A REVELATION FROM GOD THROUGH ANGEL I PROVED YOU WRONG AND YOU WENT AHEAD TODENY YOUR STATEMENT.........YOU SAID CHRISTIANITY EXIST BEFORE ISLAM THEN OBIOUSLY YOU ARE WRONG EVEN JESUS NEVER KNOW WHAT IS CHRISTIANITY ALL THE PROPHETS PREACH THAT THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE GOD U SAID IT IS THREE
i
even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment
of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with
interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran
{3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and
quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that
ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in:
Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property
among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the
hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion
of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian
book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really
there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t
know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have
ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe:
for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause
of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery!
What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus
22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that
is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall
ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated
in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt
not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money,
interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon
interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U
OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who
prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her
head, for that is one and the same as if her head were
shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF
COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI
CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray
pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont
they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti
christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN
CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW
WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let
your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not
permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be
under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn
any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a
shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U
NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR
BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE
BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform
(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his
right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and
Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah,
Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and
Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in
the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
(imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood
up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul
iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen!
Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down
(rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the
ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT
AN ANTICHRIST....

Abdulsalam20:

AS I HAVE SAID MUHAMMAD WAS NEVER POSSESED BY SATAN I GAVE U ENOUGH EVIDENCE IF U READ THE VERSE NEXT TO IT I WILL SEE THAT ALL THESE IDOL ARE CONDEMNED BUT YOUR PROBLEM IS U ALWAYS REPEAT ONE POINT YOU SEE I CANT BLAME YOU MAN BY NATURE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL EXCEPT FEW.........I DONT ARGUE WITH GOONS AFTER GLARING EVIDENCE PROVIDED FOR YOU U STILL DENY IT............. I LAUGH AT U BECAUSE U SAID NO PROPHET RECEIVE A REVELATION FROM GOD THROUGH ANGEL I PROVED YOU WRONG AND YOU WENT AHEAD TODENY YOUR STATEMENT.........YOU SAID CHRISTIANITY EXIST BEFORE ISLAM THEN OBIOUSLY YOU ARE WRONG EVEN JESUS NEVER KNOW WHAT IS CHRISTIANITY ALL THE PROPHETS PREACH THAT THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE GOD U SAID IT IS THREE
i
even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment
of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with
interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran
{3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and
quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that
ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in:
Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property
among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the
hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion
of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian
book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really
there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t
know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have
ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe:
for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause
of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery!
What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus
22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that
is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall
ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated
in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt
not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money,
interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon
interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U
OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who
prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her
head, for that is one and the same as if her head were
shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF
COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI
CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray
pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont
they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti
christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN
CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW
WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let
your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not
permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be
under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn
any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a
shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U
NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR
BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE
BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform
(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his
right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and
Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah,
Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and
Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in
the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
(imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood
up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul
iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen!
Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down
(rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the
ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT
AN ANTICHRIST....

debating with you is nonsense ,you have'nt deal with issue of satanic verse, you are jumping to another aguiement,this show you cannnot explain muhammad possessed by satan.

he has kept deceiving. When
Bible said 'Anti Christ shall arise in the last days, and shall
deceived many ."Nigerian Christians expect to some day see a
huge dark man with two horns & a tail, without knowing that
most of these their today pastors are the real anti Christ Bible
talked about, Recruiting them as a potential candidates for Hell............U said i should quote the miracles of prophret muhammad i posted it for u an d u claim it should be in the quran and not in the hadith THAT SHOWS THE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE U HAVE ABOUT ISLAM........you dont know what is quran and what is hadith QURAN IS THE DIRECT REVELATION FROM GOD TO GUIDE ALL HUMANITY WHILE HADITH IS WHAT THE PROPHET SAY AND WHAT HE DO DURING HIS LIFETIME SO WHEN MUHAMMAD IS NOT THE ONE THAT AUTHORED THE QURAN THEN WHY DID U EXPECT THE LIFE HISTOTY OF THE PROPHET IN THE QURAN.......though this may be new to u because most bible passage are narrations of the life style of the prophet......

Abdulsalam20: he has kept deceiving. When
Bible said 'Anti Christ shall arise in the last days, and shall
deceived many ."Nigerian Christians expect to some day see a
huge dark man with two horns & a tail, without knowing that
most of these their today pastors are the real anti Christ Bible
talked about, Recruiting them as a potential candidates for Hell............U said i should quote the miracles of prophret muhammad i posted it for u an d u claim it should be in the quran and not in the hadith THAT SHOWS THE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE U HAVE ABOUT ISLAM........you dont know what is quran and what is hadith QURAN IS THE DIRECT REVELATION FROM GOD TO GUIDE ALL HUMANITY WHILE HADITH IS WHAT THE PROPHET SAY AND WHAT HE DO DURING HIS LIFETIME SO WHEN MUHAMMAD IS NOT THE ONE THAT AUTHORED THE QURAN THEN WHY DID U EXPECT THE LIFE HISTOTY OF THE PROPHET IN THE QURAN.......though this may be new to u because most bible passage are narrations of the life style of the prophet......

with all the error in the quran, you still called it the word of God?

malvisguy212: debating with you is nonsense ,you have'nt deal with issue of satanic verse, you are jumping to another aguiement,this show you cannnot explain muhammad possessed by satan.

u should read my posts and u will discover that it is a lie ther is nothing like that in islam it is just a fabrication by the islamaphobias i gave u so many evidence if u read it u will understand it........u quote suratul najm did u read the verse next to it.......this een shows that u didnt read my posts.........even though one of u one day quoted a verse that all muslim are going to hell.......when i told him to read the verse next to it he realise the truth because what that verse says was that all of u are going tohell EXCEPT THE TRUE BELIEVERS.......this verse u quoted u didnt bother to read the verse next to pls just look and judge your self
Obviously, one should also continue reading the
remaining of the Surah…
Surah 53:21-25
What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the
female? Behold, such would be indeed a division
most unfair! THESE ARE NOTHING BUT NAMES WHICH
YE HAVE DEVISED, - YE AND YOUR FATHERS, - FOR WHICH
GOD HAS SENT DOWN NO AUTHORITY (WHATEVER). THEY
FOLLOW NOTHING BUT CONJECTURE AND WHAT THEIR OWN
SOULS DESIRE! - EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS ALREADY
COME TO THEM GUIDANCE FROM THEIR LORD! NAY,
SHALL MAN HAVE (JUST) ANYTHING HE HANKERS AFTER?
BUT IT IS TO GOD THAT THE END AND THE BEGINNING (OF
ALL THINGS) BELONG.
IT CLEARLY CONDEMNS THE DEITY OF THESE IDOLS,
i also trace the revelation for u so that u will realise the truth
LETS SEE IF THIS COULD MAKE ANY SENSE…
SURAH 53 WAS REVEALED IN THE 5 TH YEAR OF
PROPHETHOOD…
IBN SAD SAYS THAT BEFORE THIS, IN THE RAJAB OF THE
5TH YEAR OF PROPHETHOOD, A SMALL GROUP OF THE
COMPANIONS HAD EMIGRATED TO ABYSSINIA. THEN,
WHEN IN THE RAMADAN OF THE SAME YEAR THIS
INCIDENT TOOK PLACE THE NEWS SPREAD THAT THE HOLY
PROPHET (PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAH BE UPON
HIM) HAD RECITED SURAH AN-NAJM PUBLICLY IN THE
ASSEMBLY OF THE QURAISH AND THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY,
INCLUDING THE BELIEVERS AS WELL AS THE DISBELIEVERS,
HAD FALLEN DOWN IN PROSTRATION WITH HIM. WHEN
THE EMIGRANTS TO ABYSSINIA HEARD THIS NEWS THEY
FORMED THE IMPRESSION THAT THE DISBELIEVERS OF
MAKKAH HAD BECOME MUSLIMS. THEREUPON, SOME
OF THEM RETURNED TO MAKKAH IN THE SHAWWAL OF THE
5TH YEAR OF PROPHETHOOD, ONLY TO LEARN THAT THE
NEWS WAS WRONG AND THE CONFLICT BETWEEN ISLAM
AND DISBELIEF WAS RAGING AS FURIOUSLY AS BEFORE.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE SECOND EMIGRATION TO ABYSSINIA
TOOK PLACE, IN WHICH MANY MORE PEOPLE LEFT
MAKKAH.
THUS, IT BECOMES ALMOST CERTAIN THAT THIS SURAH
WAS REVEALED IN THE RAMADAN OF 5TH YEAR OF
PROPHETHOOD. (MAUDUDI COMMENTARY ON THE
QURAN, COMMENTARY ON SURAH 53, SOURCE )
THE VERSE THAT CAME REBUKING THE PROPHET WAS
SENT DOWN YEARS LATER…
THE VERY FIRST VERSE INDICATES THAT THIS SURAH WAS
REVEALED ON THE OCCASION OF MI`RAJ (ASCENSION).
ACCORDING TO THE TRADITIONS AND BOOKS ON THE LIFE
OF THE HOLY PROPHET, THIS EVENT HAPPENED ONE YEAR
BEFORE HIJRAH. THUS, THIS SURAH IS ONE OF THOSE,
WHICH WERE REVEALED IN THE LAST STAGE OF
PROPHETHOOD AT MAKKAH. (MAUDUDI COMMENTARY
ON THE QURAN, COMMENTARY ON SURAH 17, SOURCE )
AND THE VERSE THAT SUPPOSEDLY ABROGATED THE
‘SATANIC REVELATION’ CAME IN 1 A.H, WHICH IS
APPROXIMATELY 8 YEARS AFTER THE INCIDENT…
THE SUDDEN CHANGE OF THE STYLE FROM V. 25 SHOWS
THAT PROBABLY VV. 25-78 WERE SENT DOWN IN THE
MONTH OF ZUL-HIJJAH IN THE VERY FIRST YEAR AFTER
HIJRAH . THIS IS INDICATED BY VV. 25-41 AND
CONFIRMED BY THE OCCASION OF THE REVELATION OF VV.
39-40. (MAUDUDI COMMENTARY ON THE QURAN,
COMMENTARY ON SURAH 22, SOURCE )
ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT MUSLIMS BELIEVED THE
SATANIC REVELATIONS WERE TRUE REVELATIONS FOR
EIGHT YEARS? THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE QURAYSH
WOULD HAVE BELIEVED THAT THE MUSLIMS WERE
PAGAN WORSHIPPERS. SO IF THE QURAYSH DID, THEN
WHY DID THEY KEEP ON PERSECUTING THE MUSLIMS
FOR THEIR BELIEFS, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY THE
HIJRA TOOK PLACE ANYWAY?
OBVIOUSLY, ONE SHOULD ALSO CONTINUE READING THE
REMAINING OF THE SURAH…
SURAH 53:21-25
WHAT! FOR YOU THE MALE SEX, AND FOR HIM, THE
FEMALE? BEHOLD, SUCH WOULD BE INDEED A DIVISION
MOST UNFAIR! THESE ARE NOTHING BUT NAMES WHICH
YE HAVE DEVISED, - YE AND YOUR FATHERS, - FOR WHICH
GOD HAS SENT DOWN NO AUTHORITY (WHATEVER). THEY
FOLLOW NOTHING BUT CONJECTURE AND WHAT THEIR OWN
SOULS DESIRE! - EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS ALREADY
COME TO THEM GUIDANCE FROM THEIR LORD! NAY,
SHALL MAN HAVE (JUST) ANYTHING HE HANKERS AFTER?
BUT IT IS TO GOD THAT THE END AND THE BEGINNING (OF
ALL THINGS) BELONG.
IT CLEARLY CONDEMNS THE DEITY OF THESE IDOLS, SO
WHY NEED A VERSE ABROGATING IT?
SURAH 22:52 IS ONLY A GENERAL STATEMENT…
PROPHETS AND MESSENGERS (THE DISTINCTION IS
EXPLAINED IN N. 2503 TO XIX. 51) ARE BUT HUMAN.
THEIR ACTIONS ARE RIGHTEOUS AND THEIR MOTIVES
PURE. BUT IN JUDGING THINGS FROM A HUMAN POINT OF
VIEW, THE SUGGESTION MAY COME TO THEIR MIND
(FROM SATAN) THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE POWER
OR WEALTH OR INFLUENCE FOR FURTHERING ALLAH'S
CAUSE, OR THAT IT MAY BE GOOD TO CONCILIATE SOME
FACTION WHICH MAY BE IRRECONCILABLE. IN FACT, IN
ALLAH'S PLAN, IT MAY BE THE OPPOSITE. ALLAH, IN HIS
MERCY AND INSPIRATION, WILL CANCEL ANY FALSE OR
VAIN SUGGESTIONS OF THIS KIND, AND CONFIRM AND
STRENGTHEN HIS OWN COMMANDS AND MAKE KNOWN
HIS WILL IN HIS SIGNS OR REVELATIONS . (YUSUF ALI
COMMENTARY ON THE QURAN, COMMENTARY ON
SURAH 22:52)
(NEVER SENT WE A MESSENGER OR A PROPHET BEFORE
THEE) O MUHAMMAD (BUT WHEN HE) THE PROPHET
(RECITED (THE MESSAGE)) OR SPOKE (SATAN PROPOSED
(OPPOSITION) ABOUT THAT WHICH HE RECITED THEREOF)
SUCH THAT HE DOES NOT ACT UPON IT. (BUT ALLAH
ABOLISHETH) BUT ALLAH ELUCIDATES (THAT WHICH SATAN
PROPOSETH) ON THE TONGUE OF HIS PROPHET SUCH THAT
HE DOES NOT ACT UPON IT. (THEN ALLAH ESTABLISHETH)
THEN HE CLARIFIES (HIS REVELATIONS) FOR HIS PROPHET
IN ORDER THAT HE ACTS UPON THEM. (ALLAH IS
KNOWER) OF THAT WHICH SATAN PROPOSES, (WISE) HE
DECREES TO ABOLISH IT; (TANWÎR AL-MIQBÂS MIN
TAFSÎR IBN ‘ABBÂS, COMMENTARY ON SURAH 22:52,
SO UR CLAIM THAT I HAVE NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS EXTRANOUS

malvisguy212: with all the error in the quran, you still called it the word of God?

I HAVE TIME FOR YOU GUYS TODAY LETS START I BET WITH U THERE IS NO ERROR IN THE QURAN INSTEAD THERE ARE MANY ERROR IN THE BIBLE IS IT ABOUT CONTRADICTION OR MODERN SCIENCE PLS LETS START THE DEBATE YOU CAN START NOW EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DEBATED ON THIS BEFORE U CAN START IT SHA

Abdulsalam20

AS I HAVE SAID MUHAMMAD WAS NEVER POSSESED BY SATAN I GAVE U ENOUGH EVIDENCE IF U READ THE VERSE NEXT TO IT I WILL SEE THAT ALL THESE IDOL ARE CONDEMNED BUT YOUR PROBLEM IS U ALWAYS REPEAT ONE POINT YOU SEE I CANT BLAME YOU MAN BY NATURE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL EXCEPT FEW.........I DONT ARGUE WITH GOONS AFTER GLARING EVIDENCE PROVIDED FOR YOU U STILL DENY IT............. I LAUGH AT U BECAUSE U SAID NO PROPHET RECEIVE A REVELATION FROM GOD THROUGH ANGEL I PROVED YOU WRONG AND YOU WENT AHEAD TODENY YOUR STATEMENT.........YOU SAID CHRISTIANITY EXIST BEFORE ISLAM THEN OBIOUSLY YOU ARE WRONG EVEN JESUS NEVER KNOW WHAT IS CHRISTIANITY ALL THE PROPHETS PREACH THAT THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE GOD U SAID IT IS THREE

Your problem is that you do not know history. You are blinded by religious dogma. I employ you to do personal research and find out if Christianity existed before Islam. You come here an talk but provide no reference. Christianity is over 600 years older than Islam. The Bible existed over 600 years before the Quran was compiled - idiots like you will refuse to believe that but unfortunately for you; history is not on your side.

I won't engage in the doctrine of the Trinity with you; you have formatted your brain and chosen not to understand. We Christians believe in one God compare that to Islam that bows down to a stone in Mecca every year. Mohammad kissed the black stone when Allah told you guys in the Quran that you shouldn't venerate or bow down to any image or stone. Yet you have the audacity to open your mouth and call others pagans.

You have provided no evidence, you copied and pasted the commentaries from early Islamic sources. However, those same historians made it clear that Mohammad endorsed the Satanic verses to have the favor of his tribe. You can't hide from history Bros

i even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment
of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with
interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran
{3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and
quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that
ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in:
Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property
among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the
hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion
of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian
book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really
there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t
know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have
ever seen…………..

Look at this malu, who is talking about banking here? Jesus gave the golden rule Bros - treat others as you expect to be treated. That is found nowhere in the Quran. Please stick to the subject and start talking about rubbish

Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe:
for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause
of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery!
What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus
22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that
is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall
ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated
in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt
not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money,
interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon
interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U
OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who
prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her
head, for that is one and the same as if her head were
shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF
COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI
CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray
pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont
they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti
christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN
CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW
WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let
your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not
permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be
under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn
any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a
shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U
NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR
BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE
BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform
(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his
right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and
Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah,
Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and
Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in
the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
(imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood
up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul
iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen!
Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down
(rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the
ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT
AN ANTICHRIST....

Your problem is that you are not coherent. You probably have read the Bible or try to but you are doing so from an imam or youtube . Since these are not related matters to this post; I will ignore you.

Here is evidence from your Hadith that Mohammad was possessed and under a witch spell:

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400)

Narrated Aisha:
Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not (Sufyan said: That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect). Then one day he said, "O ‘Aisha do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head asked the other, ‘What is wrong with this man?’ The latter replied he is under the effect of magic. The first one asked, ‘Who has worked magic on him?’ The other replied, ‘Labid bin Al-A’sam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.’ The first one asked, ‘What material did he use?’ The other replied, ‘A comb and the hair stuck to it.’ The first one asked, ‘Where (is that)?’ The other replied, ‘In a skin of pollen of a male date palm tree kept under a stone in the well of Dharwan.’" So the Prophet went to that well and took out those things and said, "That was the well which was shown to me (in a dream). Its water looked like the infusion of Henna leaves and its date-palm trees looked like the heads of devils." The Prophet added, "Then that thing was taken out." I said (to the Prophet) "Why do you not treat yourself with Nashra?" He said, "Allah has cured me; I dislike to let evil spread among my people." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 660)

I employ you to read your Islamic history. It is clear from Islamic sources that Mohammad was bewitched and influenced by devils. I didn't make it up

DEBATING YOU IS USELESS U ARGUE LIKE A GOON IMAGINE! U ACCUSE ME O DERAILING WHEN U ARE THE MASTER IS THISTHE TOPIC OF THE THREAD?!...WHEN U CANT DEFEND THE TOPIC AGAIN U BRING IN SOME FABRICATIONS AND INSHA ALLAH I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER YOU..........AND BESIDE I AM NOT FORCING U TOCONVERT I JUST WANT YOU TO REALISE THE TRUTH U COPIED THIS UR NEW QUESTION JUST AS YOU COPY ISSUE OF SATANIC VERSE WHICH ALHAMDULILLAH I ANSWERED THEM FOR U........I READ THROUGH UR LAST POST IT IS DAMN FUNNY BECAUSE U CANT DEFEND UR SELF WITH SOPHISTICATED EVIDENCE FROM THE BIBLE (I GUESS U NEVER WRITE A PROJECT)......U ARE JUST ABUSING ME IF U ARE SURE OF ALL WHAT U SAID ABOVE JUST PROVE ME WRONG AND IF U CANT ITS NOT NECESSARY U REPLY I JUST WANT U TOREALISE THE TRUTH AND CONCERNING UR QUESTION

The Qur’an strictly forbids Muslims to resort to any form of charm, magic, spell, or premonition to cure or alleviate any sickness, mental or physical. The only exception is incantation of the Qur’anic verses for such afflictions.

Here are a few verses on the ban on un Islamic magic and charm

002.102 YUSUFALI: They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon (Sic) to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: “We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme.” They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah’s permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!

026.221 YUSUFALI: Shall I inform you, (O people!), on whom it is that the evil ones descend?
026.222 YUSUFALI: They descend on every lying, wicked person,
026.223 YUSUFALI: (Into whose ears) they pour hearsay vanities, and most of them are liars.

According to ibn Kathir, the context of the above verses is that people asked Muhammad about fortune-tellers. Muhammad replied they'd were nothing despite their claims that some of their predictions do come true. Maududi (commentary number 26/140) writes that these verses imply the sorcerers, astrologers, fortune-tellers, and conjurers who pose as knowers of the unseen and tell the people their future, or as wise men who have control over jinns and spirits and can make the destinies of the people through them. ALHAMDULILLAH

WHAT AN ANTICHRIST!!!!!.......IT IS VERY FUNNY THAT THE WORD BIBLE CANNOT BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE