plaetton:

Fighting against gross national lunacy is what we are doing here.
A journey of s thousand mikes starts with a single step.

First proffered solution is to remove religion in our primary and secondary school curriculums.
If at all, teach it a comparative study of all religions from every culture.

We need to strengthen and expand our cultural and historical heritage.You are a No-person if you no cultural identity.

We should embrace, emphasize, adequately fund scientific education.
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Teaching elementary school children about our solar system and the wonders of space exploration would fire their minds and ignite the prerequisite level of, curiosity that leads to scientific innovations.

Enough of these tales from the ancient middle east. Enough of these handbooks of immortality that contain and propagate gross and the most egregious acts of inhumanity.

McWhillion:
So much for your intelligence, so removing religion is your first proffered solution. How does that affect development? or are you saying there are no scientists, geniuses or professors who have contributed to human development and still believe in God. Its like saying that everyone should turn vegetarian in order to promote the sanctity of animal life or people should block their anuses in order to stop producing faecal waste.
Your solution is dictating what humans should believe and not believe in.

What you refuse to acknowledge is that change and development in Africa has long been associated with religion. The oldest schools in Nigeria today were built by Christian missionaries and yet. Mary Slessor, a Christian missionary stopped the killing of twins in Calabar and yet religion should be banned.
Isn't that laughable?

plaetton:

And it's only a foolish god that says there is no other god- logicboy03.

Jews don't believe that Jesus ever existed. They have No records of him in the annals Jewish history.

JesusisLord85:

Again, those oyinbo's you call the jews are not the people of the bible.
They are Khazarians that converted.
Since you won't read the bible and understand that, read 'The Thirteenth Tribe', written by, you guessed it, a white 'Jew'.
Or 'The Invention of the Jewish People'.

lepasharon:


Every one wants access to the Jewish god!

Cheers01: lol......may christians saw this thread and ran away

Cheers01: lol......may christians saw this thread and ran away

Bode2: The scripture says ' he came to his own, they receive him not but as many that receive him, he giveth power to become sons of God' Hallelujah !

thorpido: You don't understand spiritual things.You can't follow logical reasoning with spiritual things.It doesn't work that way.I understand you want the logical but it doesn't mix with the spiritual.It's like saying liquid flows and solid must flow too.

The jews do not believe because they turned in disobedience to God and that makes wisdom foolishness to them.It's not about being smart.Earthly smartness does not work with God.

Feedmemore: Sit down, put yourself in a trance, and make believe you are already gone, in heaven if you wish. Think what you'd be doing, and for what purpose. Singing? Dancing? for 10,000 years? Reading or writing? about what? Science Fictions? History of Heaven? Is there science in Heaven? Gambling? for money? Do you need money in Heaven? Having sex? with anyone you like? Is not promiscuity evil in God's eye? Is there such a thing as "marriage" in Heaven? You are not gonna have kids there, are you?

Just let go of your mind, imagine doing any thing you like for 1000 years, 100,000 years, and repeat them a million times, but remember, NO SIN, no fear of injuries or death, hence NO THRILLS of any kind. NO JOY of BIRTH, no need for any developments, be it social, economic, scientific, or religious. END of EVOLUTION!

Just extrapolate and imagine, cast your thoughts far and wide, won't be long before you realize that Eternal Life in Heaven is really HELL IN DISGUISE!

all4naija: Are you trying to hypnotize somebody in here? I am just asking though.

JesusisLord85:

1. The negro tribes of the former 'slavecoast' are the true Jews of the bible. Your question is therefore redundant.

2. Did the whole of Judah reject Yahshua? No. The scribed and pharisees raised up people against him. But we also know many followed after him We also know many were brought into the fold AFTER the resurrection.

3. Yes, the romans took the religion of the Jews and added their pagan traditions to it, this gave birth to roman catholicism. The protestants came many centuries later. If that is not a sign the whole thing is a scam, I don't know what could be clearer.

So: Forget world religions. Jew/Israelite is a nationality, not a religion per se. Just like us west africans, you cannot divorce religion and culture. But we know why our fathers worshipped wood and stone, among other things, we were cast out of Israel and found ourselves in west africa. And from there, many of us were carried off again into captivity in the americas.

But do not fear. The prophets have published it! The Most High shall gather his lost sheep and bring them back into the promised land, in the end times.
The edomites (oyinbo) of today will have you believe God stripped Israel of the eternal promise and is going to put them back in the land. Lol. Imagine that, the moabites, ishmaelites, ammonites and edomites keeping the laws and commandments in the end times. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Shalom

jamalee: @thorpido. Why we Africans are so crazy about religion? Before Christianity and Islam in this continent, we are all Idol Worshippers and the whole World at large. Let me use Nigeria as a case study; we all worship idols. And during those day, there's trust, children obey their parents, we are contended and okay with what we have, we eat healthy foods and take natural fruits, no AIDS, STD, Ebola, etc. Those days, anybody that commits adultery would be stoned to death so the rate of commiting adultery is minimal. Food Sellers would leave their foods in junctions and put the exact amount they want to sell it. People will get there and eat and leave their money on the table for the Food Seller. When the Food Seller get to the junction in the evening, she will pack her plates and her money. Thesame procedure is also applicable to all the Commodity Seller. Now, what is happening with that trust? It has been lost. Rate of commiting adultery now is very high. Sugar mummies and Sugar daddies everywhere include Sugar sons. They will post that stupid offer on the internet like this; My name is Mrs. Lagbaja, I am looking for a young guy that is good in bed and satisfy my sexual want. Thesame thing goes for the sugar daddies and sugar sons, too. I'm not through yet. But I will continue by tomorrow.

thorpido: Time is changing and has changed!The decay in the world had nothing to do with religion.It's a dying world and decay is inevitable.

Why are we Africans crazy about computers and the internet?Was it not the oyinbos that brought it?We should have rejected it since it was the oyinbos that brought it.
It's not about what is brought but how it is used.

Christianity is not a religion though many do not understand.Jesus brought eternal life.No prophet made promise of eternal life neither could they give it.Perfect christianity is faultless.

macof:

We need computers we don't need christianity...this is jst very simple

plaetton:

Good for you sir. We appreciate your honesty.

Every nation has it small population of m.o.ro.ns, so it's not a crime per se to be st.u.p.id.
However, when such st.u.pi.di.ty as you have mentioned above is a national obsession, carried as a sort of national flag, when SELF-DEPRECATION becomes a national anthem, then it becomes everyone's responsiblity, those not infected, to step up , challenge , mock and dismantle this your st.u.pi.di.ty, if for none other than for the future of the race.

If you know anything about self-esteem, you would agree that a child with very low self-esteem grow up maladjusted, less likely to progress and more likely have substance abuse issues, and more likely to commit vices.

The mental orientation fostered, nay, yolked upon Africans by for Religious myths does not allow us to make proper sense of the world , our history and our place in the future. It distorts everything. It fragments our minds,and therefore our reality.

Is it any surprise that we Africans, in this modern era, contribute the very least in scientific innovation in an era where education has become an equalizer for the rest of our former Third World Peers like India, Korea, Brazil ,etc?

Is is any surprise that our children are failing national exams at an alarming rate,.. because their minds have been force-fed and suffused with too much religious garbage?

Let me ask you again sir, as I had asked someone else on another thread. I would appreciate your honest answer.

Why do advanced countries not have religion, the type we force-feed our school children in Nigeria, in their academic curriculum ?
There must be a good reason, right?
And then ask yourself: If the advanced countries do not do it, then why does Nigeria do it?

mstik: Errm, First of all, let me point out that Christianity is not a thing of race or ethnicity
Jesus came to die for the whole of mankind, and anyone who accepts him, irrespective of race, will be saved
However, salvation primarily was for the Jews. Unfortunately for them, He was not accepted. They never expected the messiah to be of a lowly birth, to be an ordinary carpenter. They were expecting the messiah to arrive with pomp and pageantry, and destroy their oppressors, the Romans.

Now back to your question. Why should Africans accept Him?
Nobody is compelled to be a Christian, It's a person decision that is made. Whether its an Asian, African, or American, Christianity is not just another 'concept' or 'doctrine' that people are being forced to swallow.
I believe that when someone discovers the truth, they happily accept and hold on to it.
Christianity is not another western concept that you're making it to seem

mstik: Errm, First of all, let me point out that Christianity is not a thing of race or ethnicity
Jesus came to die for the whole of mankind, and anyone who accepts him, irrespective of race, will be saved
However, salvation primarily was for the Jews. Unfortunately for them, He was not accepted. They never expected the messiah to be of a lowly birth, to be an ordinary carpenter. They were expecting the messiah to arrive with pomp and pageantry, and destroy their oppressors, the Romans.
Now back to your question. Why should Africans accept Him?
Nobody is compelled to be a Christian, It's a person decision that is made. Whether its an Asian, African, or American, Christianity is not just another 'concept' or 'doctrine' that people are being forced to swallow.
I believe that when someone discovers the truth, they happily accept and hold on to it.
Christianity is not another western concept that you're making it to seem

Sanchez01: Jesus is really giving the likes of you sleepless nights... The earlier you take Him in, the better.

rinrin23:

Its you people that are giving us sleepless nights.

How can we sleep knowing that your kind are in the majority. As a country most crucial decisions are made to favor the majority. Stereotypes are created out of the majority.

So if the majority, which is you and yours, cant think for yourselves, how can you be trusted to make quality decisions. I have to live here with you people, leadership is in your hands, security is in your hands, healthcare is in your hands, my unborn kids' futures are in your hands.

It's not the Jesus factor that's a bother, its the unthinking- unreasoning-crowdmentality- western is superior-holyspirit leads me- jesus is in control- lazyass nature behind it thats worrisome.

How can I sleep??!

Sanchez01:
Truth is, I found it rather difficult to understand your post. When you stated 'us', I was surprised as I want to know who the 'us' are.

About security, your life and your kids, what happened to the fact that you are not tied to this great country. I perceived contempt and disgust as I read through your post, which honestly makes it confusing for me. I need not explain what you definitely won't understand. The true understanding of the scriptures does not lie in being dogmatic, rather, studying and finding out things for yourself. To you, the Word is foolishness while it means a lot to the likes of me and the so-called stereotyped people who rule your life. I honestly don't get what you mean by ' lazyass nature behind it thats worrisome'. Like I stated, I need not make anything clear to you. Stop getting mad at yourself, above all things and stop acting like one that has not grown. I know some pagans and atheists who would rather make cogent points, rather than bemoan the existence of Christ.

rinrin23:

Its you people that are giving us sleepless nights.

How can we sleep knowing that your kind are in the majority. As a country most crucial decisions are made to favor the majority. Stereotypes are created out of the majority.

So if the majority, which is you and yours, cant think for yourselves, how can you be trusted to make quality decisions. I have to live here with you people, leadership is in your hands, security is in your hands, healthcare is in your hands, my unborn kids' futures are in your hands.

It's not the Jesus factor that's a bother, its the unthinking- unreasoning-crowdmentality- western is superior-holyspirit leads me- jesus is in control- lazyass nature behind it thats worrisome.

How can I sleep??!

plaetton:

Actually, everything she posted was on point. I could not have said them better.
You are the one who has made no sense in your arguments. You are still arguing from inside the mental prison you built for yourself.
For example, you still using your false beliefs to justify the same beliefs. It's like using my book of fairy tales to justify the existence of Santa Clause.

I sense a high degree of irritation coming from you.
It is called cognitive dissonance.
It happens very often when a religiotard hits the brick wall of facts, reason and common sense.

The very fact that you suffer cognitive dissonance is proof enough that you have been left holding the bag, an empty bag full of toxic air.

Sanchez01:
Funny, the fact still stands that putting up arguments, particularly when a party has made up its mind to be blind to the truth makes no sense. I am not irritated, just surprised at the fact that she claimed her everything is in our hands when I honestly have no clue. And about your dissonance, well, you alone are in on your theory. I have always sought to explain things constructively, but not with you guys. I always sense this aura of anger flowing through your posts and it's quite surprising that the likes of you who claim to believe in nothing are from sound Christian homes with vast knowledge of the scriptures. It is not in my place to convince you, since I seek no intention of winning.

rinrin23:


I believe the question is if they didn't accept him- THEIR messiah, and STILL don't why should you?. If someone is claiming to be your father and you know he isnt, your family knows he isnt, your country knows he isnt, why should races of people around the world claim he is your father on your behalf and call you wrong with no proof.

If Toyota tells you the engine you have is fake, why should you claim superior knowledge over the makers (in this case, the owners).

Yes, no one is compelled, but thousands of years ago many were- and harshly, even inhumanly. You never know what you might find if you look farther back into your lineage and history. You might have ancestors that would be rolling in their graves over the thought of you worshipping a god that they refused to accept and were killed over, or a god who they pretended to venerate just so they could get access to quality education. An education they hoped would lead you to the truth through logic and deep thought (and plain common sense most of the time).

'Truth' is to be continuously sought out for, and those that have found it know it's not in a church or in a bible, or in any man-made religion. And they hope that you find this truth too by questioning. Hence the question. It's there to make you think. Not to put up a defence, think.

Sanchez01:
Funny, the fact still stands that putting up arguments, particularly when a party has made up its mind to be blind to the truth makes no sense. I am not irritated, just surprised at the fact that she claimed her everything is in our hands when I honestly have no clue. And about your dissonance, well, you alone are in on your theory. I have always sought to explain things constructively, but not with you guys. I always sense this aura of anger flowing through your posts and it's quite surprising that the likes of you who claim to believe in nothing are from sound Christian homes with vast knowledge of the scriptures. It is not in my place to convince you, since I seek no intention of winning.

rinrin23:

Its you people that are giving us sleepless nights.

How can we sleep knowing that your kind are in the majority. As a country most crucial decisions are made to favor the majority. Stereotypes are created out of the majority.

So if the majority, which is you and yours, cant think for yourselves, how can you be trusted to make quality decisions. I have to live here with you people, leadership is in your hands, security is in your hands, healthcare is in your hands, my unborn kids' futures are in your hands.

It's not the Jesus factor that's a bother, its the unthinking- unreasoning-crowdmentality- western is superior-holyspirit leads me- jesus is in control- lazyass nature behind it thats worrisome.

How can I sleep??!