Blackchampion: Help them wit what na? Do we hv d drug? or dis US niggas re high on something

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Walai d skonk dem dey take too much! We don help our self finish?

Funny how all the "good Christians" and "good Muslims" in naija see absolutely no need to help others but instead push all responsibility on the US

CityNG:

That they are asking Nigeria to help is an acknowledgement that we're doing good and making great progress.

But then if you're educated you would have realized that .

Me as a educated woman already knows that America acknowledge Nigeria cause of how the Nigerian government handled the ebola outbreak(which was mentioned in the article) but being educated is irrelevant cause there are some educated people posting on this thread and they are not seeing it as you. That's why I said it is tough cause there is not a consensus amongst all Nigerian(including the educated) on the next step on this issue regardless of how the US feels about Nigeria, cause some posters feel Nigeria shouldn't be the only ones bearing the responsibility alone hence why I brought up other African countries.

well if you were educated you would have realized that

Ebola virus: Sierra Leone declares four day lockdown on all residents




Sierra Leone will impose a four-day, countrywide "lockdown" forcing residents to stay in their homes in an escalation of efforts to halt the spread of Ebola, a senior official in the president's office said on Friday.


Citizens will not be allowed to leave their homes between 18 and 21 September in a bid to prevent the disease from spreading further.

The move is also to allow health workers to identify cases in the early stages of the illness.



http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-virus-sierra-leone-imposes-fourday-lockdown-on-all-residents-9716220.html

anonymous6:

Me as a educated woman already knows that America acknowledge Nigeria cause of how the Nigerian government handled the ebola outbreak(which was mentioned in the article) but being educated is irrelevant cause there are some educated people posting on this thread and they are not seeing it as you. That's why I said it is tough cause there is not a consensus amongst all Nigerian(including the educated) on the next step on this issue regardless of how the US feels about Nigeria, cause some posters feel Nigeria shouldn't be the only ones bearing the responsibility alone hence why I brought up other African countries.

well if you were educated you would have realized that

I am vastly educated both scholastically and worldly.

Here's what you said:

anonymous6: Tough one here, I think if the US is asking Nigeria to help they should ask that from South Africa, Kenya, Ghana and etc as well to help to However I feel Nigeria should help in some sort of way so No sawyer situation repeats itself in Nigeria but Some Nigerians are bitter about Liberians now so I don't know.

So how intelligent is your response to the USA? DO you really mean to stand by your ascertaition that the US needs to ask other countries who have no demonstrated experience being infected and responding to the infection of Ebola?

I again bring you to the reality that

1) Nigeria is sub standard to the US

2) The USA has acknowledged Nigeria as a leader in the response to Ebola.

What you guys need to to is celebrate the acknowledgment and ask your leadership to respond by doing as asked by a world leader.

There's a sound reasoning behind the suggestion.

Nigeria, heck Africa as a whole is just an air and sea blockade away from the rest of the world. I hope that doesn't happen when I come home for the holidays.

hjr2014: the US is a blessing to this world!

true that.

CityNG:

I am vastly educated both scholastically and worldly.

Here's what you said:



So how intelligent is your response to the USA? DO you really mean to stand by your ascertaition that the US needs to ask other countries who have no demonstrated experience being infected and responding to the infection of Ebola?

I again bring you to the reality that

1) Nigeria is sub standard to the US

2) The USA has acknowledged Nigeria as a leader in the response to Ebola.

What you guys need to to is celebrate the acknowledgment and ask your leadership to respond by doing as asked by a world leader.

There's a sound reasoning behind the suggestion.

Nigeria, heck Africa as a whole is just an air and sea blockade away from the rest of the world. I hope that doesn't happen when I come home for the holidays.

South Africa and Kenya for example are top economies like Nigeria in Africa and their health care system when it comes to responding to diseases like Ebola would most likely be the same as Nigeria regardless if they didn't experience it, However it doesn't hurt if you have the experience first hand to combat it and so I give Nigeria a A+ for how they have handled it for a african country and see no issue in how America acknowledged Nigeria, they deserve it(especially since as you said Nigeria is sub-standard to USA). However Like I said before I think Nigeria should help, not against it.

Ebola is now a worldwide issue and requires all to help

anonymous6:

South Africa and Kenya for example are top economies like Nigeria in Africa and their health care system when it comes to responding to diseases like Ebola would most likely be the same as Nigeria regardless if they didn't experience it, However it doesn't hurt if you have the experience first hand to combat it and so I give Nigeria a A+ for how they have handled it for a african country and see no issue in how America acknowledged Nigeria, they deserve it. However Like I said before I think Nigeria should help, not against it.

Ebola is now a worldwide issue and requires all to help

But those who are leading the successful intervention and treatment should be the leaders.

Nigeria has impressed the US enough for the diplomat to make the personal dn private call and ask Nigeria specifically.

Perhaps if the US thinks that SA can help then they will send the US Diplomat to SA to ask them.

In the meantime Nigeria has been recognized as a leader and asked to asset.

They should.

SA, Ghana hasn't been asked.

CityNG:
But those who are leading the successful intervention and treatment should be the leaders.
Nigeria has impressed the US enough for the diplomat to make the personal dn private call and ask Nigeria specifically.
Perhaps if the US thinks that SA can help then they will send the US Diplomat to SA to ask them.
In the meantime Nigeria has been recognized as a leader and asked to asset.
They should.
SA, Ghana hasn't been asked.

well like I said Nigeria has proved themselves to be the leaders in handling this Ebola outbreak, no argument there

I've said it from the beginning Nigeria should help, how they help is entirely up to the Nigerian government

CityNG:

But those who are leading the successful intervention and treatment should be the leaders.

Nigeria has impressed the US enough for the diplomat to make the personal dn private call and ask Nigeria specifically.

Perhaps if the US thinks that SA can help then they will send the US Diplomat to SA to ask them.

In the meantime Nigeria has been recognized as a leader and asked to asset.

They should.

SA, Ghana hasn't been asked.

Because SA isn't a West African nation and because Ghana hasn't and hadn't experienced it prior to the recommendation. I acknowledge Nigeria's good job at handling this, but trust me SA would definitely have done a better job at curbing the spread. God being ever merciful stopped Patrick Sawyer from going to Calabar and unleashing a shitstorm that was our saving grace. That being said, I must repeat again Nigeria is short staffed at the moment and under no obligation to fulfil the requests of the USA. If they really want us to assist they should provide us high end laboratory and medical equipments. If you have seen the modern bio-hazard/hazmat suits, currently in use in the Western world then you'd know why our health workers are in grave danger! Surely the USA have older supplies stashed somewhere why not donate the older ones before making such comments and recommendations? Surely Liberia et al will be looking at Nigeria to see our response now. You don't send one with a machete to a gun fight!

anonymous6:

well like I said Nigeria has proved themselves to be the leaders in handling this Ebola outbreak, no argument there

I've said it from the beginning Nigeria should help, how they help is entirely up to the Nigerian government

Quit being self righteous and pretending to be ignorant. You know that "help" in that context entails sending healthcare workers. Specialist advice and strategic tips are not something they don't have already. These are humans we speak about not apes. It will shock you to know that some of the brightest minds "could" be in these countries. The real problem here is, these are war torn countries with no structure and little or non- existent basic amenities, we speak about. Now tell me here do you start? No water, no electricity, hunger, poverty, warlords and their loyalists with sophisticated riffles, add disease and civil disobedience to the equation and you can see the result already.

They find out that,it is the only way of getting the sample 4rm us.they want go study am.very soon they will ask for join partnership.

Mission accomplished... The plan of sending Patrick sawyer to Nigeria with the Ebola virus has always been this... Congratulation USA, ur plans worked ...IDIOTS!!

phreakabit:

because SA isn't a West African nation and because Ghana hasn't and hadn't experienced it prior to the recommendation. I acknowledge Nigeria's good job at handling this, but trust me SA would definitely have done a better job at curbing the spread. God being ever merciful stopped Patrick Sawyer from going to Calabar and unleashing a shitstorm that was our saving grace. That being said, I must repeat again Nigeria is short staffed at the moment and under no obligation to fulfil the requests of the USA. If they really want us to assist they should provide us high end laboratory and medical equipments. If you have seen the modern bio-hazard/hazmat suits, currently in use in the Western world then you'd know why our health workers are in grave danger! Surely the USA have older supplies stashed somewhere why not donate the older ones before making such comments and recommendations? Surely Liberia et al will be looking at Nigeria to see our response now. You don't send one with a machete to a gun fight!

It's not our job to provide you with anything.

We've provided plenty already. All well documented in the article.

Thanks for the geography lesson on Africa though, I really thought SOUTH Africa was in WEST Africa all along.

dnawah: They find out that,it is the only way of getting the sample 4rm us.they want go study am.very soon they will ask for join partnership.

Your comment is short with long and quality content. It's obvious that America is deeply confused and concerned with the Ebola issue more than the affected nations. There is high possibility that the overhyped ZMAPP is not doing the expected magic, otherwise, why those patients being treated with it in Liberia and Sierera Leone are not showing signs of improvement, instead, they're dying in mass?
Mind you, Liberia and Sierera Leone are unofficial states of America with so many genuine American citizens. So the possibility of ebola outbreak now or in near future is high hence the desperation to tap from Nigeria's experience.

PhockPhockMan: Your comment is short with long and quality content. It's obvious that America is deeply confused and concerned with the Ebola issue more than the affected nations. There is high possibility that the overhyped ZMAPP is not doing the expected magic, otherwise, why those patients being treated with it in Liberia and Sierera Leone are not showing signs of improvement, instead, they're dying in mass?
Mind you, Liberia and Sierera Leone are unofficial states of America with so many genuine American citizens. So the possibility of ebola outbreak now or in near future is high hence the desperation to tap from Nigeria's experience.

A serious question for you.

Do you really believe all this nonsense that you just typed?

PhockPhockMan:

She was, however, evasive on why the President Barack Obama’s administration refused to assist Nigeria with Zmapp drugs.

She said the US was proud of the way Chukwu, the Federal Health Ministry members of staff and the Federal Government had effectively been working hard to deal with the EVD outbreak in Nigeria.

She however said it was not true that the US government had failed to assist Nigeria with Zmapp drugs.

“That is not correct; I think the Centre for Disease Control has proactively supported all the countries in the West African region in dealing with the situation. It is not about Zmapp.”

In his response, Chukwu said, Let me also reaffirm that the United States of America has fully been part of this battle; how to contain the Ebola Virus Disease in Nigeria. US CDC has done wonderfully well.


http://www.punchng.com/news/us-urges-nigeria-to-help-liberia-others-tackle-ebola/

Who is FOOLING WHO?

TWO Eediots praise-singing one another!

The real heroes in govt circles on the Ebola saga are the "health workers" who risk their lives to save others ....
... and "Gov Fashola" who was very proactive from day one, to make sure that the virus does not spread amongst Lagosians!
It would have been calamitous!

As for this Chukwu-Minister, he has diverted the Ebola-fund to buy Vehicles! Dunce!!

CityNG:

A serious question for you.

Do you really believe all this nonsense that you just typed?

Empty post.

US doctors are in dos countries...once we send our drug... dey will modernise it and make more money.. dats d game. So Nigerian shud hold on 4 now.

PhockPhockMan: Empty post.

That's what I thought.

A complete waste of space between your ears.

CityNG:

It's not our job to provide you with anything.

We've provided plenty already. All well documented in the article.

Thanks for the geography lesson on Africa though, I really thought SOUTH Africa was in WEST Africa all along.

Well, I guess its pretty obvious you are an American immigrant since you keep on saying we, so "YOU guys" should stay in your half, and mind your business. If you aren't assisting you have no business giving coverted orders as "recommendations". Liberia and Sierra Leone are affiliated to the USA by some strange form of colonialism. Why should we do America's biddings?

phreakabit:

Well, I guess its pretty obvious you are an American immigrant since you keep on saying we, so "YOU guys" should stay in your half, and mind your business. If you aren't assisting you have no business giving coverted orders as "recommendations". Liberia and Sierra Leone are affiliated to the USA by some strange form of colonialism. Why should we do America's biddings?

It doesn't matter what container you prefer to place me in. Your ploy, childish at best, simply won't work with me.

Debate with logic, facts and opinions based on being educated and you'll find that it matters less what country I may be from.

Facts, logic and opinions should not change just based on a geographic location. At least it doesn't do so amongst educated world citizens. What's right or wrong or doesn't make sense is universal and not one country owns the patent on that.

You're not qualified to tell any country where to stay so that is just hoohaa on your part. Your government invited us and gave us permission to build not one but two embassies in your country. We employ many Nigerians inside Nigeria and add greatly to the local economy. So shove the stay in your corner back alley debate theatrics back in your pocket.

Come back out, intelligently and try to debate from a position of someone educated in world affairs.

The article, if you bothered to read it and most importantly comprehend it, clearly states what we have done for Nigeria specifically.

I know yah all are butt hurt because we didn't give you ZMapp which hasn't gone through human testing (Nigeria wouldn't know anything about due process obviously) and besides it's in short supply.

Get a grip, realize that ZMapp hasn't been fully tested and we wouldn't want to be accused of using Nigerians as guinea pigs. The medicine is not a total cure (people on ZMapp have died) so when we give it to you and you use it and you die due to the putrid level of healthcare in your country then you'll still complain and whine about us.

Stop blaming us for every ill in your society. Get together like your Arab brothers did and make changes in your leadership but yah all are cowards just like Fela said "No One Wants to Die".

Stop pan handering to us, yah all are rich oil producers. Stop celebrating your yeyebrities, polithiefians, focus on the real stuff like healthcare, education, improving quality of life of the average joe, etc and you'll find that you won't have to "kowtoe" to 1st world countries.

Stop picking on the US and start being appreciative. We are not your colonial leaders, the UK is. Go hump their legs, if you're titilated for attention.

CityNG:

It doesn't matter what container you prefer to place me in.

Debate with logic, facts and opinions based on being educated and you'll find that it matters less what country I may be from.

Facts, logic and opinions should not change just based on a geographic location. At least it doesn't do so amongst educated world citizens. What's right or wrong or doesn't make sense is universal and not one country owns the patent on that.

You're not qualified to tell any country where to stay so that is just hoohaa on your part. Your government invited us and gave us permission to build not one but two embassies in your country. We employ many Nigerians inside Nigeria and add greatly to the local economy. So shove the stay in your corner back alley debate theatrics back in your pocket.

Come back out, intelligently and try to debate from a position of someone educated in world affairs.

You choose to ignore logic and reason when presented with, yet demand that it be provided. If we are to be rational about the subject matter, the USA do not owe us a freaking spec or any explanation for anything whatsoever. However, it is grossly undeniable that their request was unprecedented and out of place. This would be the first time, I'd experience being asked to help a situation by someone who isn't actively involved in that project.
BTW, I was simply pointing out your apparent stance on this issue and wasn't taking subliminal jabs at you. I was going to be logical but seeing you edited your post. . . I did same. You scream and shout We we we. Need I remind you that the scum of the USA the original "Black Americans" sit well above you on the food chain? Bare in mind that you are both at the bottom of the pantry BTW.

phreakabit:

You choose to ignore logic and reason when presented with, yet demand that it be provided. If we are to be rational about the subject matter, the USA do not owe us a freaking spec or any explanation for anything whatsoever. However, it is grossly undeniable that their request was unprecedented and out of place. This would be the first time, I'd experience being asked to help a situation by someone who isn't actively involved in that project.
BTW, I was simply pointing out your apparent stance on this issue and wasn't taking subliminal jabs at you.

Okay I'm done.

You will never get the mechanisms of how these things works based on what you just wrote.

Have a nice Sunday.

PS: Your signature should have given me a hint on your self centrism. I wasted time debating you on the assumption that you could process logic.

Is there anyone else that wants to take pot shots at the US?

I'll be your huckleberry today

Seun, please replace the silly "share" function with an "Ignore User" function instead.

CityNG:

Okay I'm done.

You will never get the mechanisms of how these things works based on what you just wrote.
Have a nice Sunday.

Entitled to my opinion and very well educated and enlightened. I am not one of the brain dead intellectuals who memorize what they are told in books. I look at situations objectively and deduce my own perceptions without being influenced by preconceived notions. So yes, I am not willing to compromise my stance without credible evidence flawing my philosophy.

This may very well be the end result of Nigerian personnels sent into those countries:

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/headlines/167798-lagos-ebola-volunteers-threaten-strike-over-lack-of-payment.html#sthash.iDfgcRoA.dpbs

Bros you too bam.You can see what's up. May we continue to grow in wisdom and knowledge.

dasparrow: @Post

Americans are jokers. We should help other West African nations fight ebola when we are still trying to deal with the aftermath of Sawyer's wickedness when he chose to bring the disease to Nigeria? How exactly do they want us to help them? I thought they said what we have is pesticide? So we should help these countries with our pesticide? These Americans sent Patrick Sawyer to come and spread the deadly virus in Nigeria and when Nigeria was finally able to curtail it, something Americans did not foresee coming, these Americans are back again asking us to help other West African nations grappling with the disease. Okay, so how do they suggest we do that? We should send our medical personnel over there so that they can be exposed to the deadly virus and then bring it back again to their family members here in Nigeria when they come visiting abi? Nigeria, recognize your enemies oh! USA is a foe and not a friend. Liberia is USA's little pet project. Why can't they help them? Imagine asking a blind man to lead the blind!

neuljosh: If naija is truly the giants of Africa, then I don't see any reason why they have to wait for US to ask them to help their neighbors. Leadership comes with responsibilities you know

help with what pls? After all our dongoyaro no fil cure ebola. Is zmap not working? If ur woman be doctor will you allow her to go to liberia? I beg dis is not war if nah war we fil supply ecomog soldier.

pumpindkay:

1) help with what pls? 2) After all our dongoyaro no fil cure ebola. 3) Is zmap not working? 4) If ur woman be doctor will you allow her to go to liberia? 5) I beg dis is not war if nah war we fil supply ecomog soldier.

1) Help by perhaps educating there ministry of health counterparts on what steps Nigeria took to curb this epidemic. They don't even have to travel and can do this via teleconferencing.

2) Ebola has no know cure at the moment (this bears repeating but I won't and will assume you can follow along). Not all that survived has drug administered some just had care and liquids.

3) ZMap worked on those that were carted to the US, it did not work on some that went elsewhere. ZMap ha snot been tested on humans nor certified to be used. This is not about ZMap, this is about Nigeria sharing what she learnt with her sisters countries (I think you know that).

4) Yes, if that is what she wants to do. It's 2014, Husbands shouldn't be dictating to their Wives what to do with her professional life. I know I and those in my circle do not tell our Wives what to do professionally.

5) This is actually bigger than a regular war. In war you can spot your enemy and send a round downrange to terminate him with extreme prejudice.

CityNG:

I know yah all are butt hurt because we didn't give you ZMapp which hasn't gone through human testing (Nigeria wouldn't know anything about due process obviously) and besides it's in short supply.

Stop blaming us for every ill in your society.

Stop picking on the US and start being appreciative. We are not your colonial leaders, the UK is. Go hump their legs, if you're titilated for attention

Is there anyone else that wants to take pot shots at the US?

I'll be your huckleberry today
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1) Help by perhaps educating there ministry of health counterparts on what steps Nigeria took to curb this epidemic. They don't even have to travel and can do this via teleconferencing.

2) Ebola has no know cure at the moment (this bears repeating but I won't and will assume you can follow along). Not all that survived has drug administered some just had care and liquids.

3) ZMap worked on those that were carted to the US, it did not work on some that went elsewhere. ZMap ha snot been tested on humans nor certified to be used. This is not about ZMap, this is about Nigeria sharing what she learnt with her sisters countries (I think you know that).

4) Yes, if that is what she wants to do. It's 2014, Husbands shouldn't be dictating to their Wives what to do with her professional life. I know I and those in my circle do not tell our Wives what to do professionally.

5) This is actually bigger than a regular war. In war you can spot your enemy and send a round downrange to terminate him with extreme prejudice.

Look, stop these nonsense right now, Mr. wannabe-American.
You are not the first nor the last to hold American citizenship.
we dont/wont all need to carry "placard" of our dual citizenship, okay.
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That was a digression anyway. Now to the issue:

"HELP" by its very definition is VOLUNTARY!

*Again, like someone pointed out, A Blind man does not lead another blind man, else they both fall into a pit!

*As far as Ebola is concerned, Nigeria is still struggling and trying to grapple with her own challenges.

*Zmapp or not, a country of 180-Million-people still counting, cannot afford to allow Ebola get on the loose.

*America has an "experimental CURE" (at least it has cured more than one person) in Zmapp, Nigeria does not.

*What Nigeria thought it has, rightly or wrongly, was roundly condemn by the Americans and referred to as Pesticide..... yet they refused to "share/help" us with the Zmapp they got?

*If Zmapp was good enough for an American, for a Liberian, for a Spanish, WHY IS IT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR AN INFECTED NIGERIAN? Well, America "knows best"!

*That Nigeria, albeit UNEXPECTEDLY and against ALL ODDS, seems to be surviving the scourge, which coincidentally was introduced into Nigeria by a "determined Patrick Sawyer" (an American-Liberian!) is not because of some "magic wand or a secret formula/drug" .... it is because we are fully aware of the consequence of inaction bearing in mind that we have received the "first signal" that we are expendable, by almighty America!

That Doctor Aidadevo who RANSOMED HER LIFE FOR ALL OF US , by physically restraining that "American Angel of Death" called Patrick Sawyer from running riot amongst our populace (from Lagos to Calabar and God knows where next!) was even denied the opportunity afforded Americans, Spanish and Liberians/Serria Leaonians, to "compete for life" ..... was enough to galvanize us into action.

So, what does the Americans want us to "do/teach Liberians" that America itself cannot do/teach them?

-That they should stop relying on America for help, in times of dare need?
-That heavens help only those who are prepared to help themselves?
-Or should we just ship our health personnels down there so that when they contract the Virus a second time, America can tell us "its not my problem"?

Well, if "Nigerians" were not their problem then (and That wonderful Doctor Aidadevo and a few Nigerians paid with their life) ...Why should "we" be their problem now?

Mind you, America does not owe us anything.
At the same time, we dont owe then anything and they can shove their "advice/suggestion where the sun does not shine!
It is bordering on not very polite insult to be "instructing us" now, that it seems things did not turn out for us as they expected.

[size=14pt]Just imagine if this Virus has gone viral within our closely-packed population?
Will they not be laughing at us and holding us to ransom right now?[/size]

While l dont like impinging religion into any discuss, l cannot refrain from thinking God has a hand in "shaming the devil", on this one!

Its not yet Uhuru, we are not yet out of the woods yet.
I want to believe that there are still "domant Ebola infection" within the population hence l want all Nigerians to remain Vigilant, be aware and take extreme precautions.
It does not work if "some take heed" and "others dont"!
Those that "dont' will simply re-introduce it and infect others ... and it can spread very easily.

Nigerians should also "watch-out" for SABOTEURS!
If we go by the "history and antecedents" of some "world powers without a shred of conscience", .... an attempt to DELIBERATELY RE-INFECT NIGERIANS WILL NOT BE FAR-FETCHED!

SHINE YOUR EYES!

BTW: Within the current context of "EBOLA INFECTION", a husband/wife (any of the spouse and even children of the family) are well WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO TELL THEIR FAMILY MEMBER (Read: Husband, Wife, Kids) NOT TO BRING AN INCURABLE DISEASE INTO THE FAMILY!

It is called "COLLECTIVE" SECURITY AND "COLLECTIVE" RESPONSIBILITY -- You look after ME, l look after YOU

When one of them gets infected, spreading it to other family members is ALMOST GIVEN!
That is how most people in Liberia (including Patrick Sawyer who picked it up from his infected sister, who later died of the Virus infection) get infected - by "close-association transmission"!


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