Alisha4U: Anjem Choudary, the honest British imam gave a television interview this week in which he defended acts of terror, including the beheading of foreign journalists, as consistent with the teachings of the Koran, Breitbart News blogger John Sexton reported.

London-based cleric Anjem Choudary told Russia Today that “terrorizing the enemy is in fact part of Islam” in an interview with the English-language RT news program, “Worlds Apart.”

Choudary cited a passage of the Koran that calls for Muslims to use “steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah.”

“So terrorizing the enemy is in fact part of Islam,” Choudary said. “I mean this is something that we must embrace and understand as far as the jurisprudence of Islam is concerned.”

Sexton wrote that, “Choudary went on to say that Muslims make no distinction between civilians and armed forces since civilians elect the leaders who direct the armed forces.”

Choudary, also a lawyer who lectures on Sharia law, headed an Islamic group, Al Muhajiroun, which was banned in the United Kingdom.

Two attendees of Al Muhajiroun events were arrested in the 2013 murder of a British Army veteran of the Afghanistan war, who was stabbed to death in broad daylight on a busy London street.

Choudary has sparred with Fox News’ Sean Hannity and CNN’s Brian Stelter in recent interviews, and even spawned an anti-Choudary Facebook page.

Alisha4U: Anjem Choudary, the honest British imam gave a television interview this week in which he defended acts of terror, including the beheading of foreign journalists, as consistent with the teachings of the Koran, Breitbart News blogger John Sexton reported.

Alisha4U:
London-based cleric Anjem Choudary told Russia Today that “terrorizing the enemy is in fact part of Islam” in an interview with the English-language RT news program, “Worlds Apart.”

Choudary cited a passage of the Koran that calls for Muslims to use “steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah.”

“So terrorizing the enemy is in fact part of Islam,” Choudary said. “I mean this is something that we must embrace and understand as far as the jurisprudence of Islam is concerned.”

Sexton wrote that, “Choudary went on to say that Muslims make no distinction between civilians and armed forces since civilians elect the leaders who direct the armed forces.”

lovaleenny: Basically op d reason for getting registered just yesterday is so u can create 5 topics abt islam dt aint true and try to get words frm our mouths.

Nigerians shud really do a full-blown course on propaganda.....it'll go along way

vedaxcool: Anjem is speaking his own desires may Allah guide to the right path that is, if it is true.


Click the link below to read the position on the majority of muslims

www.nairaland.com/1843878/shocking-reason-why-muslims-dont

arsenalwenger: Anjem choudary understands islam better than all NL muslims. He speaks the truth as contained in the koran.

Pls do not condemn him for saying the truth. And remember, he is still a devout and a practicing muslim known globally.

vedaxcool:

Does this sound similar . . . Rev.King understand Christianity better than all NL christians, He speaks the truth as contained in the Bible.

Pls do not condemn him from saying the truth. And remember he is a devout and practicing christian known Nationally all over Nigeria!

I hope you see the futility of your reasoning? But if you don't there is little I can do to help.

arsenalwenger: Can you confirm any of rev king's words or actions that can be attributable to the teachings or actions of Jesus? Rev king is a known thief using christianity as a cover.

Anjem chaudary words and teachings are very compatible with the live of the prophet. Is it the war doctrine, sharia in the UK doctrine, child bride doctrine, islam take-over of UK doctrine\illusion? Anjem's teachings are all compatible with the sunnah of the prophet.

vedaxcool:
Does this sound similar . . . Rev.King understand Christianity better than all NL christians, He speaks the truth as contained in the Bible.
Pls do not condemn him from saying the truth. And remember he is a devout and practicing christian known Nationally all over Nigeria!
I hope you see the futility of your reasoning? But if you don't there is little I can do to help.

vedaxcool: Pastors practicing Christianity according to arsenwenger;

see 24 four pastors who molested vunerable kids


What is up with these holy rollers and their rapey pastors? The Tennessean reports that the Gallatin, Tenn. Police arrested Roy Neal Yoakem, pastor at the New Gospel Outreach Church in Scottsdale, Ky., for raping a 14-year-old boy in his congregation. Yoakem allegedly assaulted the boy once at church and once in at this pastor of disaster’s home in Gallatin.

The police department told reporters Yoakem is in jail and faces four charges: Aggravated statutory rape, sexual battery by an authority figure, statutory rape by an authority figure, and fugitive from justice.

Wait, what do they mean Yoakem’s a “fugitive from Justice?” It turns out, this isn’t the first time Yoakem has assaulted and raped underage boys.

Yoakem’s on record as a convicted sex offender whose rap sheet includes a 2005 conviction for the secondary sexual assault of an eight-year-old boy. He is a registered sex offender in Gallatin, Tenn. — where he has an address — but not in the state of Kentucky.

Gallatin Police Department spokesman Bill Storment told reporters that Yoakem had registered as a sex offender in Tennessee, but also should have done so in Kentucky.
Church Hires Convicted Rapist Pastor Because ‘God Forgave Him,’ Guess What Happens Next? (Video)

Remeber to use the word of asrsenalwenger, these pastors know Christianity and Jesus more than all NL christians ... some even have direct link which speak to god.

I hope commonsense would prevail.

arsenalwenger: Bros you are getting it wrong. Anjem chauodary is a leading Islamic figure in the UK. He has never been arrested for commiting any crime, he only preaches Islam according to the sunnah of the prophet. Those 'pastors' you listed above did what is bad and punishable by law and their actions are not backed-up by the teachings and actions Jesus.

On the other hand, Anjem chaodary claim that violence is part and parcel of islam according to the quran (quran 9:29) and the hadith and are backed up by the word and actions of the prophet. Did the prophet engage in the act of war? Yes. Did he capture slave women after his victories? Yes. Did he command muslims to fight infidels until they accept allah as the only true God and mohammed his prophet? Yes.

I wonder why you can't say a simple truth. Anjem is saying the truth concerning pure Islam and you are here denying an obvious fact.

vedaxcool: to conclude on anjem, naturally extremists think alike, hence you would notice extremists christians would naturally be attracted to Anjem they would insist on his extremist views as being valid despite the fact that mainstream muslim have long distanced themselves from his type. But we know pigs would always dance in a pool of stool.

BetaThings:

The contradiction in their conduct tells you plenty about Christianity
A number of them have not made any post about anything else apart from Islam
Christians are decapitating themselves in South Sudan but it is not newsworthy
The leader of CAN in involved in $9.3m gunrunning deal - but they are saying it is normal
But they are opening threads upon threads to dream up imaginary plots
Why are they hyperactive?
To distract
But the fact is that CAN president is buying weapons, they are bent on a bloody o,.r..,g.y,. of killings
The man has always been advocating carrying of arms anyway

A lot of them have never experienced religious violence before but they talk "authoritatively" about how violent Muslims are
They live and buy properties in Muslim countries and they Muslims are trying to hunt them down

So actions speak louder - they go to peaceful places - Muslim countries
They attack Muslims because Muslims it is not a dangerous sport
They dare not do it to those who shout "fire! fire!! fire!!!"
or those who spend $9.3m to arm Christians

vedaxcool: to conclude on anjem, naturally extremists think alike, hence you would notice extremists christians would naturally be attracted to Anjem they would insist on his extremist views as being valid despite the fact that mainstream muslim have long distanced themselves from his type. But we know pigs would always dance in a pool of stool.

Islam4UK and its leader Anjem Choudary
do not represent or speak for Islam or
British Muslims but are a "platform" for
the extremist movement al-Muhajiroun.
There is no room for such kind of people
or their organisations in our community
or the peaceful religion of Islam.
Dr. Wazqar Azmi OBE of British Muslim Forum

Choudary has been largely criticised by most UK
newspapers, some of whom describe him as an
extremist. In January 2010, Guardian contributor
Mehdi Hasan wrote: "Is Choudary an Islamic scholar
whose views merit attention or consideration? No.
Has he studied under leading Islamic scholars?
Nope. Does he have any Islamic qualifications or
credentials? None whatsoever. So what gives him
the right to pontificate on Islam, British Muslims or
'the hellfire'? Or proclaim himself a 'sharia judge'?",
and claimed that Choudary was "as
unrepresentative of British Muslim opinion, as he is
of British anti-war opinion."[66]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary

Yet there is an ignorant individual who despite not knowing anything about anjem has insisted that his views are right under Islam, despite the fact anjem has no qualification, nor right of speaking on Islam. I tried painting a scenario from real events that shows how wrong it is to base any credible opinion on anjem using actions of pastors, yet this individual continues to insist on being so sure of his views while dodging his pastors vile behavior. This sort of person assumes he is educated but certainly education missed his way back in school. it has been fun though making him repeat himself like a skipping cd.

BetaThings:

The contradiction in their conduct tells you plenty about Christianity
A number of them have not made any post about anything else apart from Islam
Christians are decapitating themselves in South Sudan but it is not newsworthy
The leader of CAN in involved in $9.3m gunrunning deal - but they are saying it is normal
But they are opening threads upon threads to dream up imaginary plots
Why are they hyperactive?
To distract
But the fact is that CAN president is buying weapons, they are bent on a bloody o,.r..,g.y,. of killings
The man has always been advocating carrying of arms anyway

A lot of them have never experienced religious violence before but they talk "authoritatively" about how violent Muslims are
They live and buy properties in Muslim countries and they Muslims are trying to hunt them down

So actions speak louder - they go to peaceful places - Muslim countries
They attack Muslims because Muslims it is not a dangerous sport
They dare not do it to those who shout "fire! fire!! fire!!!"
or those who spend $9.3m to arm Christians

arsenalwenger: Mehdi Hasan wrote: "Is Choudary an Islamic scholar whose views merit attention or consideration? No. Has he studied under leading Islamic scholars? Nope. Does he have any Islamic qualifications or credentials? None whatsoever. So what gives him
the right to pontificate on Islam, British Muslims or 'the hellfire'? Or proclaim himself a 'sharia judge'?",

You asked all the above questions concerning Anjem because you don'agree with his view.[s] Are you aware that the ISIS leader met all these requirements? Do you also consider him a fake muslim? Haven't you read how the wahabi faction of sunni muslim was established in suadi arabia that follow the same pattern with ISIS? I am very sure you dont understand arabic or Islam than the ISIS leader or the grand mufti of saudi arabia who said and I quote, 'no church must be seen in the arabian peninsula'.

You equally dont understand islam more that the imams in sudan, iran, saudi arabia etc who said the penalty for apostasy is death. It is only in islam that the penalty for leaving is death. That a devilish policy bro!

Islam supports violence bro, read the sunna of the prophet and stop applyin altaqiyya here, many of us hav come to see the ugly faces of islam via the internet. If a pastor commits a crime, he didnt do that because Jesus did it. If muslims kill and ask the infidels to convert by force or pay jizya, they follow the example of islamic prophet.[/s]

vedaxcool:

Address the issue, anjem is not qualified . . . you brought his qualification into the discussion.

Let us see whether the he would act like Peter in the bible and practice tarqiyyah, . . ., it is pointless arguing with someone with vast ability in dishonesty and duplicity, how did the discussion leap from anjem to isis? Apparently, when you get served quit notice, a good diversion seems in order!

arsenalwenger: [s]Muslims always looking for excuses in the bible to justify their Bleep-ups, even when man and God, in the bible, condemn such act. Peter's denial is not a virtue as altaqiyya is in Islam. Jesus already predicted Peter will deny him which was a sin.
I brought in the issue of ISIS because it was mentioned in the interview where he said there are some justifications for Islamic terrorism.
See the hadith below:
Hadith #2817, Kitab al-Jihad, Sahih al- Bukhari Muhammad bin Nashar from Ghundar from Sh'ubah narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet said: "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to return to the world even if he got everything on the Earth, except a martyr who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the honor and dignity he receives from God.[/s]"

vedaxcool:

Start from, Anjem is not qualified . . .,