pansophist:
optimumprimus

where are you from?

myads890:
How can I be a sell out to an already sold country? What sounds idotic is the fact that you've ony pointed out the obvious without offering a solution. If your solution is better than mine then you can criticize mine.

McSquishi:
Now, it's just voluntary ignorance & self-inflicted cultural genocide. Smh

pansophist:


This excerpt pretty much summed up all conundrums.

And yes, its true that Nigerians as a whole are very comfortable with the idea of being ''proxy Englishmen'', everything ranging from the legal, governmental, social, media, educational system etc are carried out in the queens language, to the detriment of the native culture. Funny thing is, there is no mass rejection of this notion, even among the highly respected intellects. As a matter of fact, if you want to be conceived as an intellectual genius, you should profess a flawless eloquence in English. Yea, thats how bad it has become. Literacy has been conflated with linguistic. SMH

@sukkot

Any prophesy about why African culture is dying and being replaced with foreign ones>? any possibility to regain it back? make I see am from your own eye abeg

sukkot:
my bros, there is no such thing as african culture. if you have the time to dissect every aspect of what is called african culture you will discover that it is a mish mash of several cultures from thousands of years of migratory pattern all over the globe. you will find out many of what is considered african culture is arabic or ancient babylonian. so try not to hold on tightly to archaic traditions or you will never progress.

pansophist:


The same applies to every culture on the planet, they are derivatives from mix of predecessors that predates historical records, but they choose to uphold the sanctity of their culture, which language is a crucial part of it. Why should Africa be different?

sukkot:
exactly, which is why you shouldnt hold tightly to them cuz they are not really your culture

pansophist:


Lol oga sukkot, I think say you go give me some ogbonge message from the gods, why things be like this.

Although I wonder why you ignore the part where I said ''they choose to uphold the sanctity of their culture''. So you go proudly teach your kids English if you move to naija ni?

pansophist:


This excerpt pretty much summed up all conundrums.

And yes, its true that Nigerians as a whole are very comfortable with the idea of being ''proxy Englishmen'', everything ranging from the legal, governmental, social, media, educational system etc are carried out in the queens language, to the detriment of the native culture. Funny thing is, there is no mass rejection of this notion, even among the highly respected intellects. As a matter of fact, if you want to be conceived as an intellectual genius, you should profess a flawless eloquence in English. Yea, thats how bad it has become. Literacy has been conflated with linguistic. SMH

@sukkot

Any prophesy about why African culture is dying and being replaced with foreign ones>? any possibility to regain it back? make I see am from your own eye abeg

sukkot:
my bros, there is no such thing as african culture. if you have the time to dissect every aspect of what is called african culture you will discover that it is a mish mash of several cultures from thousands of years of migratory pattern all over the globe. you will find out many of what is considered african culture is arabic or ancient babylonian. so try not to hold on tightly to archaic traditions or you will never progress.

Fulaman198:


That's a very false statement.

What is Arab culture? What is non-Arab culture. You will find that religion is but a subset of culture and does not define culture as a whole. I'll give an example.

Arabs can be both Muslim and Christian...true or false? The answer is true, yet an Arab is still an Arab whether they are Christian or Muslim.

There are certain elements that define culture that most people who don't have a proper education don't understand. These elements include but are not limited to:

1. Language
2. Dress style/Clothing
3. Food
4. Mannerisms

I'm sure there are more than those elements that define culture. Just letting you know.

sukkot:
so the culture you have now is the culture you had 10,000 years ago ?

Fulaman198:


In regards to modern day Fulanis that are Mbororo'en that still practise their respective cultures it is very close to being what it was 10,000 years ago. the Herding of cattle, the practising of Pulaagu, the milk maidens, the use of Calabash, etc. etc. it's all still there. However, there are Fulanis who don't practise that culture and practise a more Urbanised Fulani pseudo culture.

sukkot:
the name fulani never existed 10,000 years ago. so are you really fulani ? or are you phut or cush ?. even the name africa never existed 10,000 years ago. even the word igbo or yoruba or hausa. my point here is nothing is what you think it is. the world is constantly evolving and cultures are constantly coalescing into each other

McSquishi:
you're suggesting that because a person's culture doesn't trace back to prehistory that they should feel comfortable with abandoning their culture? You should speak with UNESCO about the unimportance of culture bc they do a lot of working traveling the globe in attempts to legitimize & protect indigenous people's culture/history.

While through the natural process of trade, exploration, and more recently globalization, people to lend and borrow from culture's foreign to theirs, it's innate to hold on to family/tribal tradition. Arguing that because Western imperialism forced people to adopt a foreign culture, that said ppl should continue said adoption instead of making effort to retain their identity is... well, I'm not sure if it's condescending or naive.

Even here in "the melting pot" we have Chinatowns, Little Italies, Little Havana, etc etc. People choose to move to America but refuse to abandon their cultural identity. Why then, ask ppl who actually live in their native land to abandon their native culture for a foreign one? all in the spirit of unity?

sukkot:
i am not suggesting to anyone what to do. if you want to be bound by cultural edicts then by all means do you. me myself ? i dont follow any cultures but thats just how i choose to live my life and i am entitled to do just that. you will find that most cultures are rubbish. for example in nigeria you get people cutting their babies faces for tribal marks or people circumcising their daughters etc etc. its all archaic rubbish. voodoo, sacrificing and killing people for voodoo rituals etc

McSquishi:
Jewish tradition has boy children's penis skin cut off at 8 days old... just bc. Especially when was first done it appeared especially barbaric to outsiders. Parent's here have sharp needles pierced through their baby girl's ears before they are old enough to consent, for beauty. So tribal marks and the like don't seem so far off from these accepted practices. yes, from the outside certain cultural traditions can seem ignorant. Some are especially disconcerting imo it involves the killing of people. Then again, even in "civil" society we kill ppl who commit certain crimes, we've legal abortions. Legal systems reflect culture as well...

You are right, you can choose to live in a culture-less way of life, though that may prove impossible as you're bound to adopt one cultural practice or another unless you live in your home & never leave. I sense you just look down upon certain cultural traditions while viewing others as just normal behavior, not understanding everything anyone does is representative of a culture, modern or otherwise.

sukkot:
the name fulani never existed 10,000 years ago. so are you really fulani ? or are you phut or cush ?. even the name africa never existed 10,000 years ago. even the word igbo or yoruba or hausa. my point here is nothing is what you think it is. the world is constantly evolving and cultures are constantly coalescing into each other

Fulaman198:


Not all Nigerians, I'll give an example.

We Fulani believe that we are (no offence to others) better than English men, we hold onto our culture so dearly. I know that showing superiority complex is wrong and I personally don't believe I'm better than others, after all they say in Fulani language "Semteende woni Pullo" which means being modest is being a Fulani.

With that said, Hausa will never give up their culture, the Yoruba most likely won't give up their culture, the Zarma, the Tuareg, the Toubou and Kanuri won't give up their culture easily as well.

As a Fulani man, I would be quite ashamed if I introduced myself to a Fulani from say Mali, Senegal or Guinea and they opened up a conversation with me in Fulfulde/Pulaar and I answered them with "Oh pardon me, cheerio I'm a proper English man" They would like at me as if I'm crazy ROFLLL. Heck no, forget that, that will most certainly never happen HAHAHA

Fulaman198:


The word Fulbe which is what we call ourselves existed 10k years ago. Fulani is a Hausa word. Ful6e is the term in Fulfulde of what we call ourselves. There are entire documentaries of this

sukkot:
bros, Fulbe, just like Fulani is a name that is less than 10,000 years old

sukkot:
bros, Fulbe, just like Fulani is a name that is less than 10,000 years old

Fulaman198:


Sorry to inform you that it's not.