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Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Lincolnburrows(m): 11:12am On Sep 14, 2014 |
But no matter how we try in explaining these things to our xtian brethrens they would never understand it out of hatred and anxiousness to bash the Quran. Why not explain it to your Muslim brothers. The world would be a better place. 4 Likes |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Rilwayne001: 11:15am On Sep 14, 2014 |
You actually have no say until you can prove to me that * The OT is not part of the bible * That the God that inspired OT is not the one that inspire NT. * That you dont follow some commadments in the OT. * That jesus abolish the OT completely. stint: Op please answer the following: You should please answer mine too. stint: 1. if it is true that Christianity sanctions genocide, why then have we not seen people killing in the name of Jesus?Neither does islam saction it. But saying xtians never kill in the name of Jesus is a great lie. So please do me a favour by searching the 30 YEARS WAR and also the CRUSADE and please give me the feedback of who they were killing for. Also Let me help you 1. Kamini Debbarma of National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) in India funded by the Baptist Church for the spread of Christianity 2. Evangelist Pat Robertson who advocated CIA assassination of former president Hugo Chavez of Yugoslavia 3. Reverend King of Nigeria 4. Reverend Paul Hill, the abortion assassin 5. The American Hutaree Militia 6. Scott Roeder, the abortion fire bomber 7. The religious bigots at Westpoint mocking the non-Christian Cadets 8. St Bernad of Clairvaux who declared that "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified." 9. Lady Apostle Helen Ukpabio, the Nigeria witch hunter 10. Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) who beheaded people who did not convert to Christianity 11. Queen Isabella who killed murdered "heretics" in droves Please search google for all this things ^^ http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/08/25/nigeria.child.witches/ stint: (2. What is the difference between Judaism and Christianity Do they worship different God? The New Testament was not revealed this morning It was always present and recited during every highly offensive war waged by Christians They had the NT during the Crusades, The Wars of Religion, the Inquisition, The Doctrine of Discovery, killing of witches Christians had it when they used "task from God" to justify the war in Iraq about 10 years ago. Google should be of help. and please reply me whatever you found out about them. stint: 3. why is the Quran easily "misunderstood" to support killing by "some" Muslims while Christians do not kill in the name of God I have provided a very strong example about those who quote the Quran out of context to justify there gruesome act, please refer back to it. And about xtians not killing in the name of God please address those point i raised. 4 Likes |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Firmjudge(m): 11:18am On Sep 14, 2014 |
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Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Rilwayne001: 11:22am On Sep 14, 2014 |
Lincolnburrows: But no matter how we try in explaining these things to our xtian brethrens they would never understand it out of hatred and anxiousness to bash the Quran. www.nairaland.com/1864482/saudi-top-cleric-blasts- al-qaeda https://www.nairaland.com/1843878/shocking-reason- why-muslims-dont "Say: Shall We tell you those who are the worst losers in their deeds? They are those who spent their lifetimes in misguided deeds, all the while thinking they were doing good" [Kahf: 104-5] And our Prophet (SAW) said, "A person will always remain in some ease with regards to his affairs [on Judgment Day], AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT SPILL INNOCENT BLOOD" May Allah protect us from being amongst these categories. Are there not prominent xtians who go against the teachng of the bible 3 Likes |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Firmjudge(m): 11:31am On Sep 14, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Please authenticate what you just said we need references Please. I want to show you something. |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Firmjudge(m): 11:55am On Sep 14, 2014 |
truthman2012: @OP No i dont think so the OP copied the entire write up from here. www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/what-the-quran-bashers-dont-want-you-to-know-about-the-bible/ He should have @ least given credit.. |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Firmjudge(m): 12:09pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
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Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Firmjudge(m): 12:17pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
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Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Kingharzyz(m): 1:07pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
malvisguy212: all the names you mention fought people that worship idol,but muhammad wage war on jews and christian. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW? any proof for this? |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Rilwayne001: 1:18pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Firmjudge: Okay, but you can still address them one after the other. Firmjudge: I did search on your crusade challange which you use to support your claim... Actually the Crusade was not the only war i challenged you on, others are also there especially the 30 years war which claim the live of 8,000,000 people.. That of the 30 years war was far more greater than them. Please do your research about who they were killing for. Firmjudge: What i found is noteworthy..To you it is not. Firmjudge: CRUSADE This is coming from a xtian website to cover there loopholes of history. Now reading the Wikipedia which is generally accepted and unbias on this issue: "A key difference between the Crusades and other holy wars was that the authorization to carry out these wars [size=15pt] came directly from the pope, who claimed to be working on behalf of Christ. " [/size] " During the Reformation and Counter-Reformation of the 16th century, historians saw the Crusades through the prism of their own religious beliefs. Protestants saw them as a manifestation of the evils of the Papacy , while Catholics viewed the movement as a force for good" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades Firmjudge: so they were not killing in christ name. This was purely religious plus political agenda. ((((and christianity plus politics do not mix.. That should be another topic someday. ))) I have gotten what i want @bolded. Since you agreed that it was religously motivated. Firmjudge: If you feel i am not correct then provide us evidences with references as to where they said they are killing in christ name or for christ by the way they were only taking back from the muslims what belong to them. You claimed that they were taking lands that belong to them with the process of killing millions of people, Killing people to acquire holy lands that belong to God is not killing for God right? Firmjudge: And also support your claim with christs word in the new testement instructing christians to go on killing. I never said jesus ordered anybody to kill for him, but saying people didnt kill for jesus is a lie especially the 30 years war. Firmjudge: Re-school yourself on what the crusade was even all about. You should be the one to seek education on it 2 Likes |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 1:19pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Kingharzyz:proof for what? I dont need to tell you, When muhammad wage war on the people you turn blind eyes not to see it, APART FROM MUHAMMAD, WHICH PROPHET OWN A SLAVE? HOW DO YOU OWN SLAVE? IS IT NOT BY WAR? WHEN YOU DEFECT YOUR ENEMY AT WAR YOU CAPTURE THE SLAVE. |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by RockMaxi: 1:30pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Rilwayne001: 1:34pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Firmjudge: You can say that again Firmjudge: www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/what-the-quran-bashers-dont-want-you-to-know-about-the-bible/ So the story of Saul was not writtten in the bible? |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Ajagbe97(m): 1:39pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Saul repeatedly repented for his “failure”:read Galatians 4 from beginning to the end........ then u can quote me and tell me what you feel |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by BossTtdiamonds(m): 1:41pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: So you copied the entire story without crediting the source/original owner of the article.. You're one big thief you know; every heard of Plagiarism? Ooops I totally forgot, You're a Muslim... One funny part is you take your time to dig stories written by brain washed morons. Let's see how far you get with this. Funny enough you discredit the Bible so much, yet you are so quick to run to the same Bible you say contradicts itself to justify you blood suckin' Muhammad. 1 Like |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by arsenalwenger: 1:57pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:Edit: blood suckin' Muham MAD (peace be upon me). |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Etfash(m): 2:05pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
When we discuss religion, temper suddenly goes high. How many of you guys were there when YAHWEH appeared through an Angel and spoke with Moses? Who knows what is right from what isn't? "the Lord would then turn and look onto those at His right, i was hungry, naked, cold etc. You came through for me...." some "the religious fanatics" will come and he will say unto them that they didn't attend to him. Their speaking in tongues, 5 pillars and 5 prayers a day, Miracles and prophecies wouldn't even be remembered on that day. Folks, come out from the shackles of religion. May i tell you all the truth: You all should go and make your homes right. GOD is bigger than religion! |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Firmjudge(m): 2:40pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Lols, indeed like i said it was purely political plus religious but you chose to picked what you wish.. dont forget christianity is not a religion Again i still stand by my words and i am bacingk it up with references from your accliamed wikipedia which renders it this way.. Origin T ""The origin of the Crusades in general, and particularly that of the First Crusade, is widely debated among historians. The Crusades are most commonly linked to the political and social situation in 11th-century Europe,"" www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade you simple shoot yourself on the foot, by pointing that the pope claimed to be working for God but the question is the same wikipedia renders it in another angle therefore which should one believe..?? I would have believed you and the pope if you can back up your claim with references that is subjective from the bible. But you see the ISIL and BK kill and main yet they back up their act or rather justify there deeds froom your book. Secondly i cant go on and on answering all 8 or more charges its too lenghty and i am not obligated to do same. And again stop lieing the historylearning site is not a christian site, else please back up your claim. Iwill check out the 30years issh. |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Proffdada: 4:40pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
arsenalwenger: Edit: blood suckin' Muham MAD (peace be upon me).you piss be unto him |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by stint(m): 6:13pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
Op thanks for answering the questions I just posted. I found the following in your reply: 1. You think the wars that happened hundreds of years ago that can only be felt through research, you think that is comparable to terrorism in the name of Allah that have been happening for hundreds of years and seems will continue to happen forever. 2. You are painting it that a people wouldn't ordinarily fight to reclaim their land(Jerusalem) if the were not Christians(thus they must have done it for God). Am talking about the Crusade. If thieves took over the village of atheist, do you think they will want their home back. Is it possible they wage a war to reclaim it. 3. You refuse to see the difference between Jesus and Mohammad. Jesus would not use violence even to safe his own life. His disciples died as martyrs without fighting back. That is our Lord and peace is what is what he taught us by example. Can you say the same thing about Mohammad. Did he and his disciples have blood on his hands or not? The truth is I guess you are Yoruba. We Yoruba are mostly peace loving people. I believe that is why Yoruba Muslims have found a way to interpret Islam to support peace. This is why Northern Muslims don't consider you equals. This is cause they know you are too sissy to effect the true message of Islam. Not that am complaining. Regardless you still find that even the average Yoruba Muslim is always more quick to anger. This is not surprising. Everyone becomes more and more like those they admire. Eventually.... |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Kingharzyz(m): 6:22pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
malvisguy212: proof for what? I dont need to tell you, When muhammad wage war on the people you turn blind eyes not to Any proof that Muhammad own a slave ? guy are you from this planet ... if you can't come out with proves... I take God beg you don't quote me again... thank you 1 Like |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 8:52pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
Kingharzyz:To begin with, the Quran justifies slavery, and often mentions slaves. Here are some relevant verses: 33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty." This verse clearly shows that Muslims believe that taking slaves in war was a God-given right. These slaves were considered 'booty' or the spoils of war. As the saying goes: to the victors go the spoils. 23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them:..." The passage's context here (not quoted in full) details how Muslim males are allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls. Implicit in this is that Muslim males had slave-concubines. 70:30 is basically a repeat of 23:5. Ibn Sa'd's "Tabaqat", gives a clear description of Muhammad having "relations" with at least one of his slave girls. Muhammad had sexual relations with Mariyah, his Coptic slave. Mariyah and her sister, Sirin were slaves given as gifts to Muhammad. Muhammad gave Sirin to Hasan Thabit, the poet. Ibn Sa'd says that Muhammad "liked Mariyah, who was of white complexion, with curly hair and pretty." [Taken from Ibn Sa'd's "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes), p151]. Ibn Sa'd also writes that Mariyah bore Muhammad a son named Ibrahim. He died 18 months later. Sa'd writes: "If he had lived, no maternal uncle of his would have remained in bondage", p164. This shows that there were other Coptic slaves owned by the Muslims. The Quran also instructs Muslims NOT to force their female slaves into prostitution (24:34), and even allows Muslims to marry slaves if they so desire (4:24), and to free them at times as a penalty for crime or sin (4:92, 5:89, 58:3) and even allows slaves to buy their liberty, if they meet certain of their master's conditions (24:33). [90:10 'freeing of a bondsman' refers to Muslims ransoming other Muslims who were slaves of non-Muslims.] While I think it's nice to allow a slave to obtain his freedom, (at his master's discretion) it is tragic that Islam allows them to be enslaved in the first place. That's like robbing a bank and giving some of the money back to the bank, and thinking you did the right thing! The above verses show that taking slaves was ordained by Allah, and that it was permissible for Muslim males to have sex with their female slaves. It also shows that slaves were a valuable commodity to the Muslims, otherwise, Allah would not have imposed the penalty of freeing a slave to make up for a crime. Am surprise you dont know the quran to much hence your evidence.do you realy think a prophet shuld have slave?and have sex with them? 1 Like |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Kingharzyz(m): 6:23am On Sep 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212: To begin with, the Quran justifies slavery, and often mentions slaves.Derailed 1 Like |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by logicboy01: 6:35am On Sep 18, 2014 |
Kingharzyz: After being shown proof of the slavery in your religion, that is all you can say? You were asking for proof before... |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by POPEII: 10:49am On Sep 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: You have nothing to say, that's why you kept quiet, and I will advise you to keep doing so, before i descend on you and your pedophilia filled religion |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by manmacho: 1:05pm On Sep 18, 2014 |
Rilwani can you please let us no where ALLAH WAS during the mayhem you claim happened in the Old testament. since it is obvious that it was not Allah that called them to kill WHERE WAS ALLAH SINCE IS NOT THE SAME AS THE JEWISH GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT SECONDLY, WHAT KORANIC ACCOUNT DO YOU HAVE ABOUT ALLAH DURING THE OLD TESTAMENT DAYS WAS HE PART OF THE STORY OF THE ISRAELITE OR IN ARABIA WHERE WAS HE |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by malvisguy212: 8:45pm On Sep 18, 2014 |
Kingharzyz:you ask for proved and i give it to you,is this what you called derailed? You have no answer to it. LET IT BE SEALED IN YOUR HEART. |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by lanrefront1(m): 8:47am On Sep 19, 2014 |
Let's forget about history or what is written. Let's face the reality on ground today. Are Christians or is Christianity a problem in any part of the world today. No there are not. They are peaceful and live peacefully with people of all religions, race or country. Abuse Jesus all you want, burn a thousand bibles, and all they will do is pray for you. Is Islam a problem to the world today. Yes. Somebody in Paris in a European country draw a cartoon about Muhammed and innocent Christians and people die all over the world. Churches are burnt. Muslims are busy bombing people all over the world in the name of Allah and the prophet. Have you heard any Christians bombing anyone. I know, the usual argument, those guys are not Muslims. Okay agreed, they ate fake Muslims. My question to you is: Why are the fake adherents of Christianity or any other religion for that matter bombing people in the name of the God of that religion. It's only Muslims or Islam that you find doing this. No other religion in the world does this. Like a quote that is now famous said: True, not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Abdulsalam20(m): 12:09pm On Sep 19, 2014 |
lanrefront1: Let's forget about history or what is written. Let's face the reality on ground today.WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!! (1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the man arrested attempt to bomb Radio House Abuja were christian. (2) Lydia Joseph (the failed bomber of St. John Catholic Cathedral) of Bauchi State who attempted to bomb a church on September 12,2011.; was christian. (3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon indigene carry april 29th 2012 attack in connection with BUK bomb attack.” Was christian. (4) Emmanuel King arrested in attempt to bomb the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) in Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital, while camouflaged in Islamic attire on December 28, 2011. (5) Igbo traders that gunned down a dozen fellow Igbo businessmen of the same non- Islamic faith inside the Christ Apostolic Church, in Adamawa State on Friday, January 6, 2012. (6) Samson Mangai who was arrested in Plateau state attempting to bomb a church was christian fellower. (7) Madam Ruth, who attempted to bomb the ECWA church, Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian fellower. ( Case of the arrest of about eight Christians in Bauchi in an attempt to blast the COCIN church on Sunday, February 26, 2012. (9) Case of the Christian bomber lynched while escaping after blasting the COCIN Church of Jos on Sunday, February 26, 2012. (10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in COCIN HQ bombing was lynched by worshipers. He was a church member disguised in military uniform. (11) jonathan Gyanet, police officer was arrested attempt to bomb ERCC church in Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri 20 2014. Was christian. (12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact! CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS' AGENDA? |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by yazach: 12:10pm On Sep 19, 2014 |
Timzy234: ALL the Christian Scriptures that talk about violence are stories of the Old Testament. Rilwan001, read the difference between Judaism and Christianity then edit your thread, thank you. Oga at the bottom, you must be the leader of 419 chai!!!!!! when it comes to 10% hun you will say is bible but when it come to strait bullet that treat your Bleep up in the bible you will say OLD TESTAMENT |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by yazach: 12:22pm On Sep 19, 2014 |
stint: Op please answer the following: Mr man!!! you will agree with me that you christian always kill in the name of Jesus. is only that you do it silently and package it very well Evidence Am sure you pay tithe Am sure you are aware that you pastors buy Private Jet with your tithe money Am sure you know what they use that jet for. A very strait forward answer is exposure of CAN president (Orisjefo or what) collaborating with GEJ(christian) to purchase harms for your their(christian) boko haram Am sure you are aware of CAN chairman in a local government of Osun State who prophecize that we are going to experience boko haram in the local government and later ask his church member to dress like muslims and started throwing bangers into his church Oga did you want to know? Christians Leaders are boko haram in disguise If you want to convince me that you are not part of boko haram, you must tell me you have stop paying tithe to your leaders |
Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by Abdulsalam20(m): 12:23pm On Sep 19, 2014 |
ADOLF HITLER IS A CHRISTIAN the Church: a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria. b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.) c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church. d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf) e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus. f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.” (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell) h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.” –Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.” -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism..... |
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