coogar:

the version you saw wasn't clear enough to show who was spitting at who. the media have seen a different version that is high-definition with audio & it was the woman doing the spitting.

anyone who says there was a man spitting in the TMZ video is a pathological liar.

Chillisauce:
Ha! Pls o. I didn't do it. It was just an assumption to illustrate my point.
Make dem no come lock me up

crackhaus:
You have a point, but self control does not have an exact scale of measurement.
Many people think they have self control until they surprise themselves and end up not believing they could react a certain way.
Some men who are capable of holding back on a woman who hits them may just react when faced with verbal insults...what I'm saying is that no one can actually be sure of their self-control threshold, and it's better not to instigate a person and then blame them for not being able to control their reaction.

As for the spitting...if there was one, it was definitely inside the elevator not outside. She only smacked his face while outside.
What happened inside the elevator was just a case of overreaction by both parties.
She also made the first move on him inside the elevator, my stance is that he went overboard with the contact his hand made with her face.

He also acted like he thought she was faking passing out from the way he picked and dropped her...there were no instinctual moves by him to try to revive her..
Hmmmm, now that i think of it, so many things are wrong with this video...it's no surprise he got cut off by his team.

freecocoa: I'm telling you it was very clear, I saw him spit on her.

cococandy: Too bad they macho ones make the not so macho ones feel like sissies for voicing out.

edwife: I really don't know what to believe anymore,why are there more videos out there? It is confusing

Chillisauce:

Watch the video again, the guys mouth was longer than necessary . Either he was scaring her with his shark teeth or he was spitting. Either way, both of them are wrong. They can decide to treat it as family affair but it won't be again in the public glare.

You are right about not instigating a person but then again, your reaction after the instigation might cost you a lot. Learn to calm down, move away from the danger before taking a drastic situation that may cost someone else life.

[size=14pt]Ray Rice's wife blames media for 'nightmare' caused by video release[/size]

Janay Rice accuses the press of exploiting the incident after her husband was cut from the Baltimore Ravens and suspended by the league

Jessica Glenza in New York

Tuesday 9 September 2014 19.52 BST[i]

Janay Rice, the wife of the suspended running back Ray Rice, said on Tuesday that both of them regretted the incident that led to him punching her unconscious, and described the publication of a video of the tussle as a “horrible nightmare”.

Speaking for the first time since Ray Rice was cut by his team, the Baltimore Ravens, and handed an indefinite ban by the National Football League on Monday, Janay Rice said the media had exploited the incident for ratings while ruining her husband’s career.

The statement came amid questions about when the NFL first saw the Rice video, and whether the league made a concerted effort to view it. When the incident first came to light in February, Rice was suspended for two games, despite a police report that made clear the severity of the punch that floored his then fiancée.

[i]“I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare,” said Janay Rice, in a response delivered via Instagram. “No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options [sic] from the public has caused my family,” she said.

“To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret everyday is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass off for all his life just to gain ratings is a horrific [sic]. THIS IS OUR LIFE!” Rice said. “If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you’ve succeeded on so many levels.” She ended with a reference to Ravens fans, saying: “Ravens nation we love you!”

The 15 February incident was widely covered by the media after celebrity gossip site TMZ released a video from outside an elevator at Revel Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey. The video showed Rice dragging his then fiancee, Janay Palmer, out of an elevator unconscious.

Rice was charged with felony assault, but New Jersey prosecutors approved Rice’s entry into a pretrial diversionary program rather than pursue charges. As a result of the first video, Rice was suspended for two games by the NFL and received support from the Ravens team, moves widely criticized.

In one recent example, the team on Monday deleted a tweet saying, “Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role she played the night of the incident.”

On Monday, TMZ released a second video showing the incident from inside the elevator. That video shows Rice delivering a single knockout punch to Palmer, then dragging her from the elevator.

Some US sports outlets, such as NBC Sports blog Pro Football Talk, asked the league directly if it requested the video from the casino.

“Security for Atlantic City casinos is handled by the New Jersey state police,” the league said in a statement released to PFT. “Any videos related to an ongoing criminal investigation are held in the custody of the state police. As we said yesterday: we requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. That video was not made available to us.”

[size=14]A longer version of the same video, with audio and in color, was viewed by Associated Press journalists on Tuesday. The AP said the video showed the two shouting obscenities at each other in the elevator and Janay Palmer spitting in Ray Rice’s face before Ray Rice punches her.

The AP reported:

The higher-quality video shown to the AP shows Rice made no attempt to cover up the incident. After Palmer collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, “She’s drunk, right?” And then, “No cops”. But Rice didn’t respond.[/size]

The Ravens said it will accept exchanges for Rice’s jersey following his release – similar to the New England Patriots’ decision to exchange Aaron Hernandez jerseys after the tight end was charged with murder.

— Baltimore Ravens (@Ravens)

September 9, 2014

The Baltimore Ravens will offer an exchange for Ray Rice jerseys at stadium stores. Details to come.

The Rices further responded to media coverage on Tuesday, as both Ray and Janay Rice spoke to ESPN reporter Josina Anderson.

“When I was able to ask him how he was doing he said to me, ‘I have to be strong for my wife. She’s so strong we are in good spirits. We have a lot of people praying for us and we’ll continue to support each other.’ Then after that he just added, ‘I have to be there for Janay and my family right now and just work through this,’” Anderson said in a TV appearance in which she described her call with the Rices.

Anderson said she then spoke briefly with Janay Rice who said: “Look, I love my husband, I support him, and I want people to respect our privacy in this matter.”

On 31 July Rice said of the incident that it was “something I have to live with the rest of my life”.

He added: “I know that’s not who I am as a man. … I let so many people down because of 30 seconds of my life that I know I can’t take back.”

Chillisauce:

You are here arguing with coogar. Coogar that will see black and tell you it's red. If you are not careful, you start going for eye test.

Chillisauce:

You are here arguing with coogar. Coogar that will see black and tell you it's red. If you are not careful, you start going for eye test.

cococandy: Seems like there are quite a few different videos for this issues.

Which is why I'm wondering why she's apologizing to him and asking folks to stay away from their 'marriage' according to coogar.

How can one spit on someone they claim to love?

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP/CBS) — Ray Rice and Janay Palmer can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit in the face of the three-time Pro Bowl running back right before he throws a brutal punch in a video shown to The Associated Press by a law enforcement official.
The video, shown to the AP Monday night, includes audio and is longer than the grainy TMZ Sports video released earlier that day.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/09/09/janay-palmer-defends-ray-rice-longer-video-shows-spitting-obsceneties/

ileobatojo: As to why she's staying? Most likely for his money. It's also very possible that this is what their relationship looks like on a good day, full of smacks, spitting and abuse.

Chillisauce:

You are here arguing with coogar. Coogar that will see black and tell you it's red. If you are not careful, you start going for eye test.

Seun: We appreciate your support but we're much stronger and far more prone to acts of violence. Focus on your fellow women; they need you more.

Amhappy: Even when i am a little girl,if i hit my sister too hard for spanking my bottom,mum will ask me if i want to kill her. You don't use all your strength to knock out someone in the name of misunderstanding or self defense. If they want to box, better enter a ring. A penalty should be equal to the offense. That said,women should respect themselves. It is not safe to play with a cobra.

Seun: We appreciate your support but we're much stronger and far more prone to acts of violence. Focus on your fellow women; they need you more.

aisha2: A few months ago I did a post on the Jay Z Solange elevator scandal, unfortunately the tsunami wiped it off.

Now with the Ray Rice issue the issue of double standards is glaring.

A woman attacks a man, he fights back and he is the criminal. Same thing would have happened to Jay Z if he hit back.

Women should not go around hitting men because they have the weaker se-x card same way men should not go around hitting women adults should handle conflicts like adults.

If anyone behaves like a thug man or woman then they have brought on themselves treatelment reserves for thugs.
If a woman feels slapping or hitting a man is the way to resolve conflicts then they should also expect slaps back.



I don't buy the smaller hands argument,abuse is more emotional than physical hitting is hitting.

All of a sudden everyone is awake and condemning this even president Obama but I didn't hear his voice when solange hit Jay Z.

We can't win the war against gender based violence if the wat is tilted to one side. Till we balance the standards and show clearly that man or woman no one has the right to go hitting another we won't win.
Violence has no gender, no gender has monopoly of being abuser or victim. Stop violence against person's let there be a universal standard for all.

Jayne2014: We women want equal rights but can't take equal lefts. She shouldn't have hit him first.

zeb04: yeh that's it.he fought back(he retaliated) he wasnt trying to defend himself. There are certain ways things shld be handled. No matter how we try to downplay it,he was wrong(she was wrong to) and they shld both face the consequence.


I am not trying to be biased BT I don't knockout someone and I call it defense.

Edykul: The OP is so right.It takes a well principled man not to hit back at the woman when he finds himself in such situation.