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Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by noit(m): 2:20pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Juria novict curia..... |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by mikelblinks(m): 2:20pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
He killed Steenkamp.. Pistorios is hot tempered and a bloody liar.My lucky aunt can testify 2 dat. 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Calebosko(m): 2:21pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
koolhunk: WTF! this guy should be in jail. Damn the law!!!all this bokohalam kiling like its their hubby,how many dey jail. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Thomsbuky(m): 2:21pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Samakinr: What your point silly billy? This guys got away with murder period. Why are you asking me to apply as Reeva legal rep, does it make sense to you? Its seven bullet holes..not four as you mentioned. what does it matter either 4 or 7 times.....what is glaring to you in this case? The fact he shot and kill is girlfriend....and somebody praising da lord that justice as been serve for killer get away with murder? |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by MevsU(m): 2:23pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
From the comments I have read it is clearly obvious that majority don't know how cases are decided. In a court of law, only facts with evidences are required even when you are on the wrong side and the prosecution are not able to prove that with evidences it is likely one goes scot free. Is it fair? Only those concerned can say 2 Likes |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by SHOCK7(m): 2:23pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Aitee1: Haba...I'm not watching but those commenting on the live verdict thread said the case has been adjourned till 9 am tomorrowDatz probabily 4 d second charge! |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by kobonaire(m): 2:24pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
MrKnowitall: Man kills his girlfriend in cold blood...found not guilty. Man hits his wife in an elevator...loses everything. I don't understand this crazy world, this crazy perplexing world.Mr. Ray Rice is paying for his actions (factoring he is a high profile athlete). He's also paying for the face saving moves by the NFL and Ravens organizations. He will hopefully get a new contract once the 'cooling off' period is over ... perhaps by 2015 season. He's still a free man, hopefully has saved well and can spend quality time with his family. Mr Oscar Pistorious, if found guilty of manslaughter, may face jail time. He'll be losing financially too - having spent for his lawyers, losing endorsements etc. 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by rhymz(m): 2:25pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
I would have been surprised if Oscar did not get acquitted at least on the murder charge. Seriously, the state prosecutors relied too heavily on Witness account and the past relationship issues they had. See how the judge logically struck out most of the evidence witness accounts in a way that one can not fault much in her logic. Na only Oscar go fit talk if he intentionally killed his girlfriend in a rage or it was a tragic case of anxiety and mistake. His lawyers played the mental instability argument very well and that is what has gotten him off the hook. The technicalities of the law does not care about witness accounts that may have been corrupted by judgemental media reports of the case. Finally, Mr Oscar will get off with a light sentence for illegal possession of arms and discharge in public place all of which he had pleaded guilty and probably have agreed to a plea bargain that will see him get off with a smack in the butt.... I hope the media will now let this man rest....We now have another OJ Simpson case in RSA.... 4 Likes |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Dreyl(m): 2:26pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
So he's now a free man,hmmm. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by reeq(m): 2:27pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Folks Please let's Learn to get our Facts Straight before posting. Stuff!. The final verdict hasn't been given,we'd know on the morrow. God bless. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by GuyFawkes: 2:28pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
In all trials, "purely circumstantial" evidence is frequently the clearest path to the truth--even superior to eye-witness accounts. For goodness sake, there have been murder convictions where no body has been found, and circumstantial evidence is all there is.. It boggles the mind that Judge Masipa did not apply ordinary reasoning in her ruling. Ordinary reasoning points one way--toward guilt. First, no woman living intimately with a man would get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and, in the dark, lock the door behind her. Second, disabled in the legs or not, Mr. Pistorius is equipped with a functioning voice, good hearing and fully working arms. Why, if they thought an intruder was in the room, did he not instinctively listen for Ms. Steenkamp's breathing, reach out with his arm to see if she were lying there, or whisper to her to stay put? It's not very hard to figure out almost instantaneously that a partner has left the bed. Mr. Pistorius, even by his own account, had lots of time before he went to the bathroom to have figured this out. While reading about the trial, I kept wondering if the prosecutor directly challenged Mr. Pistorius by saying this: Surely this was not the first time Ms. Steenkamp got up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. Why didn't you think an intruder was in the bathroom the other nights? 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by wiringdpt(m): 2:29pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
I knew it |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by AriDsexy(f): 2:29pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Kx: If I remember that an innocent woman was killed I say Judge why?I'll go with ur first reasoning,the second one is BS...No offense pls 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by ifedun2: 2:33pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Thought the prosecution had him nailed.Watching the trial,I had the understanding he deliberately killed that woman.Now this.No evidence to premeditated murder. Rip to the lady. I only hope the guy would learn from this. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by niggereyez(f): 2:33pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
this is why SOMETIMES I HATE the legal profession.... mtcheeew. *there is that final judgement day* 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Nobody: 2:35pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Donkunxex: since 2013,,,I thought there's someting they call "THE LIE DETECTOR!". .. ain't watchinq trisha again...Well, I don't know about the SA practice, but here in the US, results from a lie detector machine can't be used as evidence. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by KingAdeOluomo1(m): 2:36pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Congratulobia man Southie no easy like everybody with der own gagban even pastors self But I have this feeling DAT if dis man is a black south African its won't be easy n fast like dis ooo |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Godskidmidas(m): 2:36pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
so u bin dey believe dat Trisha show? so u bin dey believe dat Trisha show? |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by biikeys(m): 2:37pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
PhockPhockMan: PRETORIA, South Africa — The Paralympic athlete Oscar Pistorius has been found not guilty of the two gravest murder charges against him. @ Op, he was found 'not guilty' for 'premeditated murder'.He's still not clear of culpable homicide which is almost same as involuntary manslaughter. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by jeje123(m): 2:38pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Honestly I know oscar would be discharge and acquited because he has presidential hand-shake after winning gold medal for his country SA @ last olympic game. So to me, dont expect much but i have one believe God is watching every activities we pactake in either good or bad. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Nobody: 2:38pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Samakinr: Many don't really understand the rudiment of prosecution. The first rule is that everyone is innocent until proved otherwise. I'm sick of Nigerians giving a conspiracy theory to anything not going as their wish. yes my brother, the shallow pattern of thinking is really disturbing in this country. just imagine if Reeva was amputated and killed Oscar, all these people condemning Oscar would turn their table of judgement around in favour of the killer. But now even when Oscar is crying, they said he is faking. smh. 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Nobody: 2:38pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Am gonna talk when I hear the final verdict Am <a href="http://www.pakogirl..nl/?m=1">HERE</a> chilling |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by shilexholly(m): 2:39pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Money makes d world goes around...... |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by GuyFawkes: 2:39pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
shymexx: The comparison between OJ's trial and this one fits like a well-worn glove. Pistorius had a dream team of lawyers like OJ had and the outcome was never in doubt. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by udemzyudex(m): 2:41pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Thank God... R.I.P to the dead |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Nobody: 2:41pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Judge ends on a cliffhanger View 1135 comments Comment By: Lauren Hess, News24 2014-09-11 12:00 15:15 - Pistorius and his family have arrived back home. The end of a long tough day for him. And it continues tomorrow. MT @seugnete : #OscarPistorius het nou net saam met sy lyfwagte by die huis aangekom. Hy sit in die middel, agter. pic.twitter.com/rZRmpNcbYT — Beeld (@Beeld_Nuus) September 11, 2014 15:09 #OscarPistorius leaves the High Court in Pretoria after the first day of judgment. CE pic.twitter.com/cPKLQrdlB1 — EWN Reporter (@ewnreporter) September 11, 2014 14:58 - "Pistorius leaves court through great heaving throng of TV cameras and people with camera phones," tweets David Smith. Follow smith's tweets here. 14:55 - "Asked Pistorius how he felt the day went but he looked straight ahead, said nothing and kept walking," tweets The Guardian's David Smith. 14:50 - Wow. That sure is a big group of people. Not surprised Oscar is still in court. This is what awaits him outside pic.twitter.com/RDK0HqjeMR — Mandy Wiener (@MandyWiener) September 11, 2014 14:44 - "Oscar is still sitting in a corner of the courtroom talking to his aunt. His sister is sitting on the arm of his chair stroking his head," Wiener tweets. 14:43 - Mandy Wiener tweets: "So - there is a difference between OP 'SHOULD HAVE' foreseen and OP 'DID' foresee consequences of actions. ie Masipa believes him." 14:29 - And with that Masipa concludes for the day. Talk about ending on a cliffhanger. 14:27 - OP acted too hastily and used excessive force. His conduct was negligent. 14:26 - TM: Accused knew there was person behind toilet door, chose to use firearm, he was competent as he'd been trained. 14:24 - OP had time to think and consider actions. I'm satisfied his actions weren't that of a reasonable person - TM 14:23 - OP's conduct could be better explained by looking at his background (paranoid mother). It is just that. An explanation. Many people in this country have been victims of crime and not resorted to firearms. - TM 14:22 - TM: At time Pistorius heard window slide open, he was nearer to balcony than the bathroom (ie he could have called for help) 14:21 - TM says accused could have called for help in less time it took to shoot through the door. 14:21 - Why couldn't OP call security when he heard the perceived intruders, asks TM. 14:20 - Many people in this country with no security at all, says TM, saying OP had other options for dealing with perceived threat. 14:19 - Masipa: Defence tried to persuade this court that accused's disability rendered him more vulnerable. 14:18 - OP appears to have composed himself. 14:17 - TM cites case law showing days of total objectivity are over...what was reasonable in the past isn't reasonable today... 14:15 - TM says this test asks if a reasonable person would have acted in the same way as the accused? 14:14 - TM explains that the court must use the test of the Reasonable Man to determine whether OP was negligent or not. 14:14 - TM now deals with negligence in culpable homicide cases. 14:13 - Judge back. Court resumes. 14:12 - Court is silenced. Sounds like they're about to resume. 14:11 - Nel and Roux are now back in court. But no Judge Masipa yet. 14:11 - "Keep in mind, OP could still face a jail term. Culpable homicide carries max of 15 years but no minimum sentence," tweets Mandy Wiener. 14:01 - We thought proceedings would resume but Roux and Nel have left the court. 13:59 What a lot of people are struggling with is how shooting 4 times into tiny space could not constitute intention to kill in judge's view. — Rebecca Davis (@becsplanb) September 11, 2014 13:58 - Still no sign of the judge... 13:48 - "Even the lawyers we've been speaking to seem to say they don't quite understand the application of dolus eventualis by the judge," tweets EWN reporter Mandy Wiener. Follow Wiener's tweets here 13:39 - Here are the latest stats on how News24 users think judgment will go. Tell us here what you think will happen. 13:38 - Everyone is back in court except for Judge Masipa. 13:32 - An emotional Pistorius is seen in the dock as judgment is handed down in his murder trial at the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria. 13:28 - We discuss all that has happened pre- lunch. WATCH: Subscribe to News24's latest videos here. 13:12 - "If she finds him guilty of culp he may still get a prison sentence. But there is no prescribed sentence. Could also be suspended sentence," reckons attorney David Dadic. Get Dadic's tweets here 12:59 - Take a look at the media madness that accompanied OP's arrival at court this morning Subscribe to News24's videos here. 12:56 - Earlier OP sat praying with his siblings Aimee and Carl. 12:37 - Pistorius is now sobbing on his lawyer Brian Webber's shoulder. 12:35 - Masipa stops speaking. OP is extremely emotional now. Masipa agrees to an early lunch. Court adjourns. 12:33 - OP is "rocking slightly in the dock, red- faced, crying, grinding his jaw", tweets Nastasya Tay. 12:33 - Question is did OP foresee the possibility of death when he shot, TM asks. This is key to murder verdict. Answer has to be no. How could he? asks Judge. 12:32 - Masipa explaining why there is no dolus eventualis - OP told several people same version of events in moments after shooting. It highly unlikely the accused made up version about intruder so quickly after shooting, she says. 12:32 - TM: The evidence does not support the state’s contention that this is a case of dolus eventualis. 12:31 - TM dealing now with legal intent. 12:31 - Masipa: There is no doubt that when the accused fired shots at the door he acted unlawfully. 12:29 - TM: The accused said he did not intend to kill the deceased but the court is entitled to look at the evidence as a whole. 12:29 - OP looks to as if he's breaking down. TM continues to read: The accused has not admitted that he had the intention to shoot and kill the deceased or any other person. 12:28 #OscarPistorius begins to get emotional again as Judge Masipa continues with her judgement. pic.twitter.com/XeCUSwrb5E — Jacaranda Newsteam (@JacaNews) September 11, 2014 12:28 - OP's faces creases with emotion as Masipa reads. 12:27 - TM: The question is whether the accused intended to kill the person behind the door. News24 Share: Email Twitter Google Facebook del.icio.us Digg Ad: R500 000 Momentum Life Cover from R7.50 per day More Stories in Oscar Pistorius on Trial Oscar failed to take steps to avoid death - judge Oscar was negligent, used excessive force - judge Legal experts shocked, surprised by Masipa's judgment Oscar breathes a sigh of relief Culpable homicide a competent verdict - Oscar judge «Back source http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/Oscar_Pistorius/Live/LIVE-Oscar-Pistorius-Judgment-Day-20140911# Judement continues tomorrow and this post is misleading. I followed it from about 8:24 am when the Oscars came in a white SUV. News24 Home > South Africa > Oscar Pistorius 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by SHOCK7(m): 2:42pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Funbii: He may yet be found guilty. This is only theHello babe, A judge to be objective must always consider d evidence b4 her proven beyond reasonable b4 convicting someone. Then again oscar admitted shooting someone thinking they were intruders.D prosecution just 'ldn't prove premiditated murder. Hope u understand?least I forget u look cute |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by PhockPhockMan: 2:44pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Aitee1: Haba...I'm not watching but those commenting on the live verdict thread said the case has been adjourned till 9 am tomorrowGo to CNN, AIT, ALJAZERA etc the news is trending. He has been acquitted. |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by sugaarbear(m): 2:44pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Samakinr:you dont have a point please so stf up...am so sure the girl friend screamed at his first shot... 1 Like |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by sugaarbear(m): 2:45pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Samakinr:smh |
Re: Oscar Pistorius Found Not Guilty Of Murder by Nobody: 2:45pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
MevsU: From the comments I have read it is clearly obvious that majority don't know how cases are decided.Spot on! Circumstantial evidence, in most cases, won't be enough to secure a conviction. In a criminal trial, the onus is on the prosecution team to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime. However, if the Steenkamp family sues Oscar for something along the lines of "wrongful death", he could be found liable by that judge. In civil trials, only a "preponderance of evidence" is required to prove that a defendant/respondent is guilty/liable. 1 Like |
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