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Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by olaeffect(m): 12:22pm On Sep 14, 2014
yemaldo:
and the missionaries were watching their fellow white men when they took africans for slave,why did they remain silent back then or did d bible allow slavery,hope u still remember that desmond tutu famous quote?

The same missionaries that gave us education that we used in fighting slave trade and becoming better people or which ones are you referring to?
Can we all come here and type if not for the missionaries? And you can still come here and type poo. Was it only the west that took slaves from Africa. Where are all the trans Sahara slaves taken from Africa to the middle east?

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Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by firstolalekan(m): 12:22pm On Sep 14, 2014
Macelliot:
Qu'est-ce que vous voyez et les autres ne voient pas.
Tell me!
vous n'avez jamais compris le sens... Mon point est, tout le monde ne doit pas partager votre foi. Il est absurde de penser que seuls chrétiens fera le ciel.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by olaeffect(m): 12:47pm On Sep 14, 2014
firstolalekan:
use your head.

grin sorry, I thought it is that time of the day when we don't use our head; so so obvious in you post.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Fourwinds: 12:56pm On Sep 14, 2014
Elxandre: here to read the comments..
OP take note dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, according to carbon dating. linking them to the bible puts them to just 5000 years ago.

I don't think its necessary for religion to seek validation from science. Any attempt at that, will only lead to ironically highlighting the contradictions instead. #happysunday
did d Bible make mention of date of creattion. so how do u know it is 5000 years. infact no particular date can given about d time before Noah. d important personalities mention there were just d years they lived on earth dats all. it was even d roman empire dat made it possible for proper accounting of dates. before them we had others like d Greeks., persians to some extend. even d Arabs never kept a proper dating untill prophet Mohammed started his ministery to them.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 1:00pm On Sep 14, 2014
firstolalekan:
vous n'avez jamais compris le sens... Mon point est, tout le monde ne doit pas partager votre foi. Il est absurde de penser que seuls chrétiens fera le ciel.
firstolalekan: op, keeping deceiving yourself on an adulterated and doctored story book written by men with myopic view.
The today's bible has many absurd flaws.
Qui tromper qui. Avez-vous vu comment vous exposez votre envyness
What a big shame!
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Mavrick2012: 1:01pm On Sep 14, 2014
@macelliot,welldone sir,
i apreciate your effort.
sir,the bible says "as a man thinketh in his HEART...".please do we think with our heart or brain(mind)?
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by BossTtdiamonds(m): 1:22pm On Sep 14, 2014
Mavrick2012: @macelliot,welldone sir,
i apreciate your effort.
sir,the bible says "as a man thinketh in his HEART...".please do we think with our heart or brain(mind)?

Please a question for you sir. What do you believe?
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Fourwinds: 1:29pm On Sep 14, 2014
firstolalekan:
Olalekan is a Yoruba phrase. if u wanna know the meaning, google could be your friend.
I have followed ur argument dis far. truely I know ur position. many christian fall prey to d twisting of d word of God and dey are impoverished in d name of miracles., setting up projects etc. Olalekan wants u to shine ur eyes even if ur are a christian. some people use religion for deir selfish aim. what about dose sleeping with demselves in d name of choir practises., false muracles.,breakthru.,selling olive oil., communion even after offering has been taken from members. I think he is just pissed off dey way it is practised to d detriment of d poor soul
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 1:29pm On Sep 14, 2014
Mavrick2012: @macelliot,welldone sir,
i apreciate your effort.
sir,the bible says "as a man thinketh in his HEART...".please do we think with our heart or brain(mind)?
Yes, the heart can really think....
http://www.ukapologetics.net/biblicalheart.htm
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Orimogunje51(m): 1:51pm On Sep 14, 2014
niggereyez:
why rushing to front page to comment on something u don't believe in save ur breathe and ignore.. infact take a walk.

@Op. ... great post bro.
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Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by ea7(m): 1:56pm On Sep 14, 2014
Yeah... this is stupid
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by BossTtdiamonds(m): 2:07pm On Sep 14, 2014
Fourwinds:
I have followed ur argument dis far. truely I know ur position. many christian fall prey to d twisting of d word of God and dey are impoverished in d name of miracles., setting up projects etc. Olalekan wants u to shine ur eyes even if ur are a christian. some people use religion for deir selfish aim. what about dose sleeping with demselves in d name of choir practises., false muracles.,breakthru.,selling olive oil., communion even after offering has been taken from members. I think he is just pissed off dey way it is practised to d detriment of d poor soul

The bible does warn about false prophets, If he has been deceived by some does not necessarily make the whole belief a lie. That's something we must understand.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by lincolnj88: 2:35pm On Sep 14, 2014
yemaldo:
on the op list num 2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a
newborn reaches its peak on the
eighth day, then drops. The Bible
consistently says that a baby must be
circumcised on the eighth day.(for me thats not enough about Embryology)
here is what quran said about Embryology

Fetal Development "Man We did create from a
quintessence of clay. Then we placed
him as a drop of sperm in a place of
rest, firmly fixed. Then We made the
sperm into a clot of congealed blood.
Then out of that clot We made a fetus lump. Then We made out of that lump
bones, and clothed the bones with
flesh. Then We developed out of it
another creature. So blessed be Allah,
the Best to create!" (23:12-14). "But He fashioned him in due
proportion, and breathed into him of
His spirit. And He gave you hearing,
and sight, and understanding" (32:9). "That He did create the pairs, male and
female, from a sperm-drop when
lodged in its place" (53:45-46). "Was he not a drop of sperm emitted,
then did he become a leach-like clot.
Then did Allah make and fashion him
in due proportion. And of him He made
two sexes, male and
female" (75:37-39). "He makes you in the wombs of your
mothers in stages, one after another,
in three veils of darkness" (39:6).
And where did u learn dat.... The Qur'an explains that the bones of a human embryo are formed first and then covered up with flesh. Modern scientific studies and research have shown that the bones and muscles of a developing fetus are formed simultaneously. ..big time quranic error shocked
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by lincolnj88: 2:50pm On Sep 14, 2014
lincolnj88:
. The Qur'an explains that the bones of a human embryo are formed first and then covered up with flesh. Modern scientific studies and research have shown that the bones and muscles of a developing fetus are formed simultaneously. ..big time quranic error shocked
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by eminex(m): 3:22pm On Sep 14, 2014
flowjoe: Quantum physics says the world came into existence by energy , we say the world came into existence by God
No matter how they twist it , it still brings them back to God .
#happysunday smiley

u re right. with reference to what quantum physics says, the bible has said it all that by the abundance of God's dynamic energy he created all things (Isaiah 40:26)
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by eminex(m): 3:32pm On Sep 14, 2014
Mavrick2012: @macelliot,welldone sir,
i apreciate your effort.
sir,the bible says "as a man thinketh in his HEART...".please do we think with our heart or brain(mind)?

I appreciate it more that u added mind in bracket, dat makes the explanation easy. Heart there is used figuratively as d seat of motivation (mind).
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 4:07pm On Sep 14, 2014
Oh, please. If science advances to the point of time travelling, parallel universes and extraterrestrial beings, then we could as well believe someone from the future told these stories that was written down thousands of years ago. As for the dinosaurs, they existed 65 million years ago, how could such information possibly be kept alive to be documented in the bible?
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Mavrick2012: 4:49pm On Sep 14, 2014
eminex:

I appreciate it more that u added mind in bracket, dat makes the explanation easy. Heart there is used figuratively as d seat of motivation (mind).
but sir,the jewish version of the bible actualy used "lev",jewish word for heart and not "sekhel" jewish word for brain.
please dont forget that portn of scripture was initially writen in hebrew.
The figurative use of "heart"(in english)is keeping with the naive understanding of the thinking-faculty,because it was already more convenient.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Mavrick2012: 5:14pm On Sep 14, 2014
Macelliot:
Yes, the heart can really think....
http://www.ukapologetics.net/biblicalheart.htm
but sir,why has this finding not been conventionaly recorgnised,because a quick search shows most medically recorgise sites/organisations doesnot know/recorgnise this finding
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by musicwriter(m): 5:25pm On Sep 14, 2014
Science do not contrdict believe in God. Neither do believe in God contradict science. Do not be fooled by some modern day scientists who tell you otherwise.

All the greatest scientists ever lived did believe in God.

Isaac Newton, the father of Physics and Calculus believed in God.
Dmitri Mendeleeve, the father of Chemistry believed in God.
Pythagoras, the father of Geometry believed in God.

More at below link.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 5:30pm On Sep 14, 2014
It's either this OP is an art student or he's an ignorant science student/scientist who is very uninformed about Science, because none of the statements in his post explains anything about Science. They are merely general statements that need no manipulations. Holy books sent to men from God contain many scientific explanations to phenomena that we observe and the ones we can't see. But the Bible used by Christians nowadays is not one of such books. How can one consider the Book which has undergone revision several times holy? How can one consider the Book which is not error-free holy?

It's even surprising that a Christian could suggest that the Bible states that the earth is circular, when it's known that the first physicist to mention this fact was severely dealt with by early Christians. And anybody that believed the Heliocentric Model in lieu of the Geocentric Model was killed by the Church, as the early Christians believed the earth is the centre of the universe. After many experiments which were carried out by physicists, it is now known that the earth is not the centre of the universe, but the sun is. So, the Geocentric Model was replaced by the Heliocentric Model, which postulated the sun as the centre of the universe and that the earth is almost spherical, not flat or circular like your Bible states.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 6:04pm On Sep 14, 2014
Ha ha ha ha...are you drunk?

You cant just pick anything and draw inferences or deductions like that..

Na wah..So ok here I go..

Christ whipped the money changers and cheats in the temple so he knew the Nigerian police will whip people in Nigeria. And it shows that christ supported whipping.

Lot's wife turned to a pillar of salt so ermm...(anyone can fill in the blanks with anything that has to do with salt in modern times).


All you have said sound like my own analogy above.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 6:21pm On Sep 14, 2014
lincolnj88:
And where did u learn dat.... The Qur'an explains that the bones of a human embryo are formed first and then covered up with flesh. Modern scientific studies and research have shown that the bones and muscles of a developing fetus are formed simultaneously. ..big time quranic error shocked
Says who? Which modern scientific studies show that bones and muscles are formed simultaneously? That statement of yours is fallacious. Go to the link below and check the stages of the human embyonic development and mention the points that contradict the ones in the post you quoted. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 6:44pm On Sep 14, 2014
musicwriter: Science do not contrdict believe in God. Neither do believe in God contradict science. Do not be fooled by some modern day scientists who tell you otherwise.

All the greatest scientists ever lived did believed in God.

Isaac Newton, the father of Physics and Calculus believed in God.
Dmitri Mendeleeve, the father of Chemistry believed in God.
Pythagoras, the father of Geometry believed in God.

More at below link.

look at you, how many times do we have to correct people like you coming to say what they dont know anything about
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by musicwriter(m): 7:07pm On Sep 14, 2014
Peterken05:

look at you, how many times do we have to correct people like you coming to say what they dont know anything about

Obviously, you don't know me.

I'm in better position to educate you. Keep the middle ages believe argument cause that doesn't make sense.

You folks always feel embarrassed when reminded names of great scientists who did believe in God.

And, did I tell you the first men on the moon did recite Genesis chapter 1 immediately on landing on the moon?. Of course you know what that means.

The first men on the moon reading Genesis chapter 1 - 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwI4s97S_fQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU5QwuYKIgQ

More details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8_Genesis_reading

This are facts. And all you have to do is deal with it.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 8:09pm On Sep 14, 2014
Mavrick2012: but sir,why has this finding not been conventionaly recorgnised,because a quick search shows most medically recorgise sites/organisations doesnot know/recorgnise this finding
Why do u wanna know? Hope all is well?
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by PenSniper: 8:13pm On Sep 14, 2014
Kajiang02: Still trying to understand the correlation.
This is more like thinking of anything, and finding anywhere suitable in the Bible to quote a likely or similar reference point.
Some of those Bible quotes up there are mere grammars arranged to suit a specific reason.

Religion and science can actually go hand-in-hand in a way, but not this list itemized above.

OP, now you've given non-believers of a possible amalgamation of Science&Religion a reason to mock/laugh at the believers.

You write english but woefully lack the ability to read between the lines thus missing the message outright. What an irony.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by PenSniper: 8:18pm On Sep 14, 2014
firstolalekan: op, keeping deceiving yourself on an adulterated and doctored story book written by men with myopic view.
The today's bible has many absurd flaws.

Hell was created exactly for mockers like you. You are destined to discover the truth when it shall be too late for you to make amends.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by lincolnj88: 8:22pm On Sep 14, 2014
gensteejay:
Says who? Which modern scientific studies show that bones and muscles are formed simultaneously? That statement of yours is fallacious. Go to the link below and check the stages of the human embyonic development and mention the points that contradict the ones in the post you quoted. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development
Try read nd understand......if u can't understand this den u nid help.....nd abt quran error in embryonic development ,below are lists of dem

Embryology[edit]
Main Article: Embryology in the Qur'an

The Qur'an and Hadith contain statements about bodily fluids and the stages of development of the human embryo. Many of these descriptions are vague and unscientific. Most bare a striking resemblance to similar descriptions found in the Jewish Talmud and the ideas of ancient Greeks such as Galen, including their errors.
Sperm Originates Between the Backbone and Ribs[edit]
Main Article: Qur'an and Semen Production

The Qur'an states, incorrectly, that semen originates from a spot between the backbone and ribs. Today we know sperm comes from the testicles and semen from the pelvic region, which is not between the spine and ribs.
He is created from a drop emitted- Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs
Qur'an 86:6-7
Embryo is Formed from Male and Female Fluids[edit]
Main Article: Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Quran and Hadith

The author of the Qur'an describes the formation of a human embryo from fluids emanating from the man (and possibly also of the woman). This reflects the contemporary, but incorrect, view that the embryo is initially formed out of semen stored in the womb. In fact, semen is the vehicle for the sperm cells, one of which fuses with a woman's ovum in her fallopian tube, and the resulting cell divides and travels back into the womb for implantation. While English translations mention a "drop of seed", or "drop of sperm", the Arabic word in question literally means a small amount of liquid, a euphemism for semen.
Did We not create you from a liquid disdained? And We placed it in a firm lodging For a known extent.
Qur'an 77:20-22
From what thing doth He create him? From a drop of seed. He createth him and proportioneth him
Qur'an 80:18-19
Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm [nutfatin amshajin], in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight.
Qur'an 76:2
No Mention of Female Ovum[edit]

The Qur'an's author did not mention the role of the ovum in human reproduction and appears to have no knowledge of it. This verse fails to mention the important role of the female egg, or ovum, plays in the reproduction of humankind. It implies that reproduction is caused simply by the male semen. The human ovum is very small, though visible to the human eye, and it's purpose wasn't understood in the 7th century. Again, we are left wondering why an all-knowing deity would omit such information.
He is created from a drop emitted
Qur'an 25:45
Humans Created from a Clot of Blood[edit]
Main Article: Embryology in Islamic Scripture

The Qur'an and Hadith depict that humans are formed from a clot of blood. There was never a stage in embryonic development where humans are formed into a clot of blood. This description is likely influenced by an unscientific and primitive understanding of human reproduction based on observations from an early-term miscarriage and a woman's menstrual cycle.
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
Qur'an 96:2
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mus'ud: “Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(The matter of the Creation of) a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days, and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period, and then a piece of flesh for a similar period.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:4
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by brainbox2014(m): 8:25pm On Sep 14, 2014
Science and GOD are not enemies. Science is just too young to understand some things about GOD.
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by ogbronx(m): 8:33pm On Sep 14, 2014
You would wonder why an atheist who can't explain how he got a strand of hair adamantly holds on to his belief that there is no God. At a time when great scientist are realising and accepting the plausibility of the divine and supernatural, one fool would be so blind to say authoritatively that there is no God.
These set of pple walk around a mysterious would with plenty of phenomena unexplained. The bible says, only a fool say there is no God. Can u explain what energy is besides knowing its there?
Many expect God to appear to them bfor they believe. Do you know where God has placed man? Giving man a semblance of Himself. Are expecting A God to correct other gods by force? It is left for you to decide. God is unseen to us because of our fallen nature. It will be that way till we return to him in a pure form and made perfect at resurrection.
The bible says that the things that are seen are temporal while that not seen are eternal. Today, quantum physics has discovered that what we actually hold as matter and feel as substance is nothing more than different forms of energy. A study of the atom left them in shock as they discovered that its nothing but space. Just energy vibrating at different frequencies. Man is a spirit.
The great apostle Paul said, what is life than mere vapour in the wind? Ever stopped and pondered on time. How a whole lifetime to a fly is just 7days? We count in years right? To eternity , our lifetime is merely a dream.

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