obailala: May God deliver the black man from sheer ignorance and pure stupidity...

Common sense combined with a little education tells me the structure was weak and probably built on a weak foundation. It was a disaster waiting to happen all these while and the sound of the flying object simply introduced a little vibration in the area which caused the structure to crumble. There are even reports the building had only 2 floors until it was upgraded to 5 or 6. The question sensible people should ask is if the foundation was capable of carrying up to 5 floors (I'm sure it wasn't).

I would have assumed the people commenting on Nairaland are at least educated to know these little things but instead I can already see several comments swallowing and supporting the illiterate theory of 'spiritual attack by a strange flying object.'

As usual, this case will be dismissed as spiritual and the engineers handling the project would not be arrested and punished. Just the same way we keep having poorly maintained planes falling off our skies and instead of punishing anyone, you hear people in authority spitting out gibberish like "it was an act of God."

Sometimes I wonder what we use our education for... Most people think education is just about getting a white paper with which they would get into a high paying job. God help us!

100Cents: Only empty and disgruntled people come online to insult others based on their convictions.

Everyone watched a video, the same video and gave their interpretations, then one underachiever comes along to call another fool, idiot and other unprintable names for stating his position. Instead of begging your god to extract frustration from your life, you vent it on innocent people wherever you go unprovoked. God punish you more for stupidity.

What greater level of illiteracy is that ?

Now eye witnesses said it was a military jet and not an helicopter. Take it to the moon, that was a demolition.

In modern technology, one does not need to see a bullet or bomb before demolition takes place.

musiwa95:




I beg to disagree with you, I am an Engineer, that is not a normal building collapsing, that is a terror attack. If a building has structure problem, it will gradually crack or even if that collapse was same them, it will give few minute to go down. That was man made collapse building.

bushdoc9919:

I am not an engineer, as you are....but to claim that it is a demolition means that all the contractors handling the building of the church extension and a large segment of the church members were in on the plot to blow up the church extension.

And even then,it does not sound like much of a plot. Why blow up the church extension....and not the church. Plus....it takes many people to set up the explosives needed for an explosion/demolition of the kind you say happened...people who would have been noted and

exposed by the large population of neighbors around the church....as well as the church security.

My friend...there is no conspiracy. Just an exposure of the fact that Nigeria needs better technical people....and better enforcement of building codes.

You are not an engineer....and I claim my ten cents(unless you can give me an engineering based refutal of my points and other points made).

Demainman1: I'm amazed that nobody has suggested that what we are all seeing on that video could simply be a doctored editing just to put conspiracy theory to the whole quackery? Who wants TBJ dead? What did he do?

The only thing the man has done till date is to forecast doom! Now his building was doomed we are all here helping him put a spin on things!!

The question still remaining unanswered is;

[size=24pt]WHY DID HE NOT FORECAST THIS ONE?[/size]

Who cares whether na goat or sheep bring the building down

100Cents:

Can you monetize this argument so I can continue ?

musiwa95:




I beg to disagree with you, I am an Engineer, that is not a normal building collapsing, that is a terror attack. If a building has structure problem, it will gradually crack or even if that collapse was same them, it will give few minute to go down. That was man made collapse building.

100Cents:

With the bolded, you are just a hater..

Now I know the people I am dealing with..

Some who will never do well for themselves and pick quarrel with people who choose to do well.

bushdoc9919:

Do you have an engineering based explanation?

And you have no answer to my points at all.

Still proving my point....you are not an engineer.

Anyway....technical education, which means better trained artisians and builders...as well as enforcement of building codes...and investment in research into better building methods and materials.....will stop building collapse in Nigeria.

Time for Nigeria to do it the German Way.

Demainman1:

You are right, I hate all Nigeria 'men of dogs' Them and the politicians are the ones responsible for all our woes as a country. They have held us down for too long.

100cents, release yourself from TB grip, you can never do well in life if you are under this spell. Free your mind and begin to live right.

YOU DESERVE IT!!

100Cents:

I am not a member of his church.

Mind you, nobody can be responsible for your woes except yourself.

I taught my self to take responsibility for my success and that has made me a shining light wherever I go.

Bro, learn how to stand out..

100Cents:

Now you know, enjoy your ride.

I am not an engineer, TB Joshua is lying, He is a fake prophet, He didn't predict the collapse, He used quack engineers.

That is how your life will be filled with negatives.

Say Amen..

100Cents:

Leave these people alone.

What I see is a divide between people who hate TB Joshua and people who love him.

Poor analysis of footage.

You see them asking, " Why he didn't predict it " ?

The building sank not even collapse..

obailala: May God deliver the black man from sheer ignorance and pure stupidity...

Common sense combined with a little education tells me the structure was weak and probably built on a weak foundation. It was a disaster waiting to happen all these while and the sound of the flying object simply introduced a little vibration in the area which caused the structure to crumble. There are even reports the building had only 2 floors until it was upgraded to 5 or 6. The question sensible people should ask is if the foundation was capable of carrying up to 5 floors (I'm sure it wasn't).

I would have assumed the people commenting on Nairaland are at least educated to know these little things but instead I can already see several comments swallowing and supporting the illiterate theory of 'spiritual attack by a strange flying object.'

As usual, this case will be dismissed as spiritual and the engineers handling the project would not be arrested and punished. Just the same way we keep having poorly maintained planes falling off our skies and instead of punishing anyone, you hear people in authority spitting out gibberish like "it was an act of God."

Sometimes I wonder what we use our education for... Most people think education is just about getting a white paper with which they would get into a high paying job. God help us!

LewsTherin: Common! The last time the "strange" aircraft flew over the building was an hour before collapse. If that/those hellicopters (could have all been different flights) triggered the collapse, it still doesn't change the fact that as is typical in Nigeria, a 2 storey building was being extended without approval and on the same foundation, possibly with sub - standard processes leading to a weak structure on weak foundations. The "strange" aircraft at mlst just triggered an event that would still have happened anyways.

Proffdada: i never liked T.B Joshua but that is a professional implosion triggered by RFID DETONATOR in that helicopter. it only needs to find where the frequency is strong enough that's why it was hovering around. this is carelessness of the security trusting that all white people are friendly.this is what an implosion looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_anYswmGMeM.there's no conspiracy theory in what is obvious. he had been warned not to heal ebola patients
a collapse building looks more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKeENdyIluI

Lagos state governor, Babatunde Fashola today visited the site of the collapsed building inside the Synagogue Church of All Nations in Ikotun. He commiserated with the church founder, Prophet T.B Joshua and also ordered all church workers to stop work on the site to enable officials of the Nigerian Emergency Management Authority work effectively. See more photos after the cut...



Meanwhile, the Lagos state Commissioner for Physical planning, Mr Toyin Ayinde, revealed that the 5-storey building had no government approval for its construction.

Speaking to newsmen at the site today, the state Commissioner said records in his office shows that no permit was handed to the civil engineers for the building to be erected but said he was awaiting the church engineers to present the building permit they were given to erect the collapsed building.

musiwa95:



I beg to disagree with you, I am an Engineer, that is not a normal building collapsing, that is a terror attack. If a building has structure problem, it will gradually crack or even if that collapse was same day, it will give few minute to go down. That was man made collapse building.

1. pictures onlines does not show any earth crust shift..in its foundation . Which could make it collapse.

2. The building had enough reinforcement from one side.. It had 10 reinforcement, beam looks Ok

3. The distance of the floor space to each others.. looks Ok from picture.. I would say about 7.5-8 feet. Which is Ok

4. There was no earthquake

5. The helicopter vibration was not enough to bring it down

6. History of the area may have been Swamping but, because there are no visible earth crust shift. I pass it.


My conclusion.. they either planted bomb at the base or earth shift or the helicopter had something, it is carrying to blow it up.



I believe there most be standard the way, they build in nigeria.

Alejhandro: 1. If dis is how it actually happened, then there wud hav been no survivors.

2. Y did it take them a whole day to release d video if it was actually caught on camera by their CCTV?

3. Therefore i think dis tape is mere fabrication.


And less i forget, d owner of dat voice shud b arrested.

musiwa95:



I beg to disagree with you, I am an Engineer, that is not a normal building collapsing, that is a terror attack. If a building has structure problem, it will gradually crack or even if that collapse was same day, it will give few minute to go down. That was man made collapse building.

1. pictures onlines does not show any earth crust shift..in its foundation . Which could make it collapse.

2. The building had enough reinforcement from one side.. It had 10 reinforcement, beam looks Ok

3. The distance of the floor space to each others.. looks Ok from picture.. I would say about 7.5-8 feet. Which is Ok

4. There was no earthquake

5. The helicopter vibration was not enough to bring it down

6. History of the area may have been Swamping but, because there are no visible earth crust shift. I pass it.


My conclusion.. they either planted bomb at the base or earth shift or the helicopter had something, it is carrying to blow it up.



I believe there most be standard the way, they build in nigeria.

Bezed: if you an engineer with all these your analysis, then you'll have to return your certificate... which standard states that a two story base foundation can carry 3 more floors built on it... and in which country does it take a planted bomb to explode after one hour, if you are an engineer, you could have looked at video critically to notice the time difference in the cctv footage and find out that it was edited to serve the purpose of deceiving ppl including an engineer like you....smh