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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by aquabeing: 7:43am On Sep 14
OmaniPadmeHum:



I will start by informing you that the HSE profession and discipline is composed of 3 core ares of specialization which mixes and gives the profession its name. These are:

1. Occupational health/industrial Hygiene - H
2. Safety- S
3. Environment- E

Other organizations and companies add, Quality and Security into the mix making it more complex and adding more responsibilities for the Unit/team in such organizations. Hence, in many organizations, the unit can even be referred to as QHSSE implying Quality, Health, Safety, Security and Environment.

Now, based on your discipline, you should realize that you are already much conversant with the Environmental aspect of the profession. Hence you are quite good to go in developing yourself in HSE if this is what you want. I mean, there are accountants and other non physical science professionals who are also in the profession.

One thing I want you to realize is that the HSE profession comes with various levels of oficiency. As a result, HSE competency/training generally has six levels viz.

-Level 1-Basic
-level 2-appreciation
-level 3-Supervisory
-level 5-International certificate preliminary
-level 6-Interntionl certificate/OND level e.g. NEBOSH IGC, and
-level 8-HND/BSc level e.g. NEBOSH IDip.

I have an Msc. in the discipline, so I guess I am way over the scale. perhaps level 10 or 12 since Level 6 in UK generally, is equivalent to OND, while level 8 is equivalent to BSC.

In your own case, as a gradate in Nigeria who is interested in the profession, you can take your level of proficiency in the discipline up to level 3 and even further, depending on your interest, time, finance etc. The body saddled with the responsibility of giving professional certification and membership in Nigeria is the institute of safety professionals of Nigeria, ISPON. Under ISPON, you have:

1. General HSE
2. HSE LEVEL 1- Basic
3. HSE LEVEL 2- Appreciation
4. HSE LEVEL 3- Supervisory
5. Other specific professional trainings/courses.

Please note that General H.S.E is not equivalent to H.S.E level 1 & level 2. Note also that H.S.E 1 (Basic) and H.S.E 2 (Appreciation) is for non-graduates. THEY CAN NOT DO HSE 3 YET UNTIL THEY ARE GRADUATES, while General H.S.E is a pre-requisite for H.S.E level 3. This is how it is structured. So you can talk to ISPON and then get your certifications up to level 3. By level 3, you should have been exposed to the foundation of the profession. You can then pick an area of expertise to really develop yourself, if you so desire. Or After level 3, you can go for NEBOSH IGC, NEBOSH IDip, an MSc in Safety engineering,a PhD in Safety Sciences, attend special courses in specific areas in HSE etc...I mean name it.

The engineering approach is not anything scary. Yes, the engineering skills and knowledge gives you an edge in the profession just like height gives you an edge as a basketball player. But that is all there is to it. Not all tall people re basket ball players and not every good basketball player is tall. Please on your own, go and find out the definition of an engineer/engineering. You will realize it isn't anything spectacular. If you want you can develop yourself in an area into an engineering or highly technical proficiency to the extent that you can profer, design and execute solutions to HSE Problems in multi industrial domains.

So please go ahead and don't let that discourage you. Train yourself up to any comfortable level of proficiency that you desire. Like onepin already hinted above, there will be growing demand for professionals and the more expertise and experience you have, the better for you. Even in banking today and in insurance, they need HSE Professionals to give advise in managing HSE Risks for projects, facilities and assets. A good example is the Nigerian Central Bank which, simply put, is trying to develop its HSE Policy and regulations to promote occupational health and safety for Banks and Bank workers in Nigeria. They are even on the verge of recommending certain HSE Trainings and Policy framework for the Banking Industry. Good luck.



Thank you so much sir, I really appreciate your well detailed advice. I have registered for the General HSE and HSE level 3 at ISPON which begins next week monday. Once again ,thank you so much
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by OmaniPadmeHum: 12:30pm On Sep 16
murphydon:


Thank you sir for all your contributions here.
I would love to know.
Can some one do HSE 123, then move ahead to do ISO 14001 and OHSAS 18001? Would it work well?

I have mentioned earlier the importance of getting professional qualifications. I might not understand your meaning of ''Work Well'' but please note the reasons for getting professional trainings/course.

1. To get professionally accepted for practice- Based on existing laws and guidelines
2. To acquire new knowledge/skills- based on what one does not know, needs to know and what the trainer can offer
3. To refresh past knowledge/skills- Based on what one has forgotten or areas one needs to refresh knowledge and skills

So the question you should ask is will these courses give you any of these advantages? If yes, then please go ahead and do them. raining shouldn't be done just because it would help you get a job. Unfortunately training costs money and as such financial needs are there which can be solved by being gainfully employed. However, I have seen employed people then do not even have time to train themselves. Even when they have time, they still don't want to spend the money.

ISO14000/ISO 14001

ISO 14001 is one of the series of standards under the ISO 14000 SERIES. ISO 14000 is a series of environmental management standards developed and published by the International Organization for Standardization ( ISO ) for organizations. The ISO 14000 standards provide a guideline or framework for organizations that need to systematize and improve their environmental management efforts in reducing their environmental footprint and operating in an environmentally sustainable manner.

Here is a list of some of the series under 14000:
-ISO 14001: Environmental Management Systems - Specification with guidance for use.
-ISO 14004: Environmental Management Systems - General guidelines on principles, systems.
-ISO 14010, 14011 and 14012: Guidelines for environmental auditing.
-ISO 14020, 14021, and 14024: Environmental Labels and Declarations.
-ISO 14031 and 14032: Environmental Management - Environmental Performance Evaluation (EPE).
-etc.
-etc.


OHSAS 18001

Please note that OSHAS 18001 was First Published in 1999. It is the first Health and Safety Management System Standard implemented globally. It was revised and re-issued in July 2007 and Later adopted as a British Standard.

NOTE HOWEVER THAT OSHAS 18001 is migrating to the new ISO 45001. So please instead of doing a course titled OHSAS 18001, Look for ISO 45001 and do that. By the initial timeline the migration from OHSAS 18001 to ISO 45001 should have commenced this year. I am currently unaware of the status of this migration.

Please, if you can, find a course on ISO 45001 and do this. It would professionally pay you better.

Good luck.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by OmaniPadmeHum: 12:54pm On Sep 16
Oliran:
Please sir, what advice can you give a geology graduate as regards going for masters program or professional certification?

it depends on what you want and the level of professionalism you want to obtain in the discipline. This entirely depends on your vision for your career path.

If you want to take HSE to a professional level and apply it to Geology e.g. risks of an earthquake, modelling risks of a land slide, a rock fall, modelling risks of an avalanche occurring given the available variables that causes this phenomenon, You actually can. This is very important to a lot of countries that face these phenomena.

All you need do is ask yourself, what level of professionalism do you want to attain, then you work your way to attain that level by doing the right professional courses or getting the right academic experiences and knowledge. There is a whole discipline of predicting and modelling natural disasters due to geologic/geomorphic processes.

Let me give you an example of a rudimentary and advanced levels of HSE Thought and Philosophy in some of the basic principles concerning the discipline.

In the basic class, you will learn simply that:


Risk=P x C -------------------------- 1

Where

P= Probability
C= Consequences

In its simplest term and based on what the basic HSE Courses teach you about the basic principles this is what you know.

But then when you get to the advanced level you can also know that Risk is as follows in an advanced setting:

Risk (R) = Pr (H) x Pr (E) x Pr (C)--------------------------------------- 2

• R = Risk
• Pr = Probability
• H = Hazard (probability of the existence, presence or availability of a hazard)
• E = Exposure (Probability of exposure to a hazard or a hazardous situation)
• C = Consequence/Effects (Probability of suffering a consequence or range of consequences from the exposure to a given level of exposure from the availability of a hazard)

That is, looking at risk from a probabilistic school of thought. I mean. You can either learn from the basics and then move upwards, or you can also jump into the advanced and curiously study the basics to understand the advanced. It can even get more complicated that this.

Another example of the knowledge of basic HSE Training is they teach you that you should see hazards as something that should be eliminated totally. Remove it. Destroy them. Let no hazard exist. Like some guy working in Subsea7 argued with me. Obviously he has studied basic HSE (Maybe level 1, 2 or 3) and felt he could argue with me on this. In his basic rudimentary opinion, all hazards should be eliminated. completely removed. They must not exist. I schooled him that if all hazards were eliminated there will hardly be development. Because things like Temperature, Pressure, Height, etc are necessary for processes and technological advancement. He suddenly saw my point. When producing crude oil for instance, you need it to be hot in certain points and to be cold in certain points. To make it hot or cold you use heat exchangers etc. Heat in itself is a hazard. But this can be controlled. Not all hazards can be eliminated they can only be controlled. He even was ignorant of the fact that their vessel working offshore was exposed to hazards which quite frankly they could do nothing about but to get insurance.

There is nothing like Zero Risk. It is only hypothetical. For there to be Zero risk, one of the functions in equations 1 or 2 above will have to be zero. NONE CAN EVER BE ZERO. They can only have a very low probability of occurrence to suit our usage and applications. We try as much as possible to get them away from 1 (certainty) and we work to make them lover and lower. Note also that risk does not only mean accident or incident. Risk is uncertainty. Uncertainty any unfavorable outcome we do not want. We are drilling an oil well. We want to hit oil and we do not want a dry hole. What are the factors that can affect us drilling a dry hole or hitting a 'wet' hole? This is why I like ISO 31000. It focuses on risks and informs you that risks vary from various schools of thought. HSE, Financial, Geologic, Business, etc....

Like I have advised on this forum, it is good to get the basic ideas about HSE then go further and get higher levels of qualification and specialization. Let me make something clear, the fact that you want to go for an Msc. in Safety Engineering does not imply that you should disregard the importance of ISPON or basic HSE Levels 1,2,3 trainings. If you think you need it. Please do it. Left to me, I would suggest before you go for the Msc. you even do ISPON to give you a basic idea of the HSE discipline entails.

Good luck.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by sheriwin3910: 3:06pm On Sep 16
Become a COSS CERTIFIED
This is the latest in town. It is more advanced than NEBOSH
COSS mean CERTIFIED OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY SPECIALIST.
contact me through mail sheridente@yahoo.com
Join the train now!!!!!!
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Benbisco(f): 6:56pm On Sep 16
brainwave:
Hi all,  any HSE professionals in the house? Lets hook up and get talking, I am one smiley

Hello. I have a talk on "Personal Safety and Security" to present in church in a women's gathering next week Saturday. I have out down some things. Pls can you kindly share some ideas? Thanks a lot.
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Oliran(f): 7:25pm On Sep 16
OmaniPadmeHum:


it depends on what you want and the level of professionalism you want to obtain in the discipline. This entirely depends on your vision for your career path.

If you want to take HSE to a professional level and apply it to Geology e.g. risks of an earthquake, modelling risks of a land slide, a rock fall, modelling risks of an avalanche occurring given the available variables that causes this phenomenon, You actually can. This is very important to a lot of countries that face these phenomena.

All you need do is ask yourself, what level of professionalism do you want to attain, then you work your way to attain that level by doing the right professional courses or getting the right academic experiences and knowledge. There is a whole discipline of predicting and modelling natural disasters due to geologic/geomorphic processes.

See you can either learn simply that:


Risk=P x C -------------------------- 1

Where

P= Probability
C= Consequences

In its simplest term and based on what the basic HSE Courses teach you about the basic principles. But then when you get to the advanced level you can also know that Risk is as follows in an advanced setting:

Risk (R) = Pr (H) x Pr (E) x Pr (C)--------------------------------------- 2

• R = Risk
• Pr = Probability
• H = Hazard (probability of the existence, presence or availability of a hazard)
• E = Exposure (Probability of exposure to a hazard or a hazardous situation)
• C = Consequence/Effects (Probability of suffering a consequence or range of consequences from the exposure to a given level of exposure from the availability of a hazard)

That is, looking at risk from a probabilistic school of thought. I mean. You can either learn from the basics and then move upwards, or you can also jump into the advanced and curiously study the basics to understand the advanced.

Another example is you can see hazards as something that should be eliminated totally. Like some guy in Subsea7 argued with me. Obviously he has studied basic HSE and felt he could argue with me on this. In his basic rudimentary opinion, all hazards should be eliminated. completely removed. They must not exist. I schooled him that if all hazards were eliminated there will hardly be development. Because things like Temperature, Pressure, Height, etc are necessary for processes and technological advancement. He suddenly saw my point. When producing crude oil for instance, you need it to be hot in certain points and to be cold in certain points. To make it hot or cold you use heat exchangers etc. Heat in itself is a hazard. But this can be controlled. Not all hazards can be eliminated they can only be controlled. He even was ignorant of the fact that their vessel working offshore was exposed to hazards which quite frankly they could do nothing about but to get insurance.

There is nothing like Zero Risk. It is only hypothetical. For there to be Zero risk, one of the functions in equations 1 or 2 above will have to be zero. NONE CAN EVER BE ZERO. They can only have a very low probability of occurrence to suit our usage and applications. We try as much as possible to get them away from 1 (certainty) and we work to make them lover and lower. Note also that risk does not only mean accident or incident. Risk is uncertainty. Uncertainty any unfavorable outcome we do not want. We are drilling an oil well. We want to hit oil and we do not want a dry hole. What are the factors that can affect us drilling a dry hole or hitting a 'wet' hole? This is why I like ISO 31000. It focuses on risks and informs you that risks vary from various schools of thought. HSE, Financial, Geologic, Business, etc....

Like I have advised on this forum, it is good to get the basic ideas about HSE then go further and get higher levels of qualification and specialization. Let me make something clear, the fact that you want to go for an Msc. in Safety Engineering does not imply that you should disregard the importance of ISPON or basic HSE Levels 1,2,3 trainings. If you think you need it. Please do it. Left to me, I would suggest before you go for the Msc. you even do ISPON to give you a basic idea of the HSE discipline entails.

Good luck.

Thank you so much sir, I really appreciate

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by OmaniPadmeHum: 7:48pm On Sep 16
Let me state clearly that COSS is not ''More Advanced'' than NEBOSH. There is no basis, statistical or otherwise to make this claim.

I do not mind people trying to advertise training programs here, but let us please leave out speculation and sweeping generalizations without evidence. Also, COSS is not yet recognized world wide like NEBOSH. As for now it is more of an American thing and not even in all the States.

This is the COSS Curriculum below. I want people to use this and compare with NEBOSH and form their own opinion. I will not bother to convince anyone. WE ALL HAVE BRAINS. LET US USE THEM.

COSS has the following classification of its courses

Safe Supervisor (SS) is a 3 day course designed to enhance a supervisor’s understanding of the bigger picture of safety, and his or her role in creating a safer work environment. Topics include: worksite analysis, hazard recognition, accident investigation initiation and OSHA Code of Federal Regulations. Supervisors will emerge from the course with an understanding of the issues in workplace safety and with the ability to apply the concepts and methods learned. It is best suited to those currently working in or new to the field of occupational safety & health.


Certified Occupational Safety Specialist (COSS) is a 5 day training program designed for the entry level person or the experienced safety person to learn the core competencies to be successful in occupational safety and health. COSS topics include: applying OSHA standards, recognizing hazards, evaluating risk, and controlling hazards to prevent injuries, illness and property damage. Once you complete the COSS program, you must participate in professional development/continuing education activities to maintain your COSS certificate and report such activities every three years. It is best suited to those with at least 2 years of experience in safety, health and environmental work?


Certificate for Occupational Safety Management (COSM) is an advanced executive-level safety program consisting of five 8-hour sessions for safety professionals moving along in their career path. COSM topics include: safety management essentials such as employee training plans; creating & evaluating Safety Management Systems (SMS) and aligning the SMS to the corporate vision and mission statement; assessing and managing safety, health & environmental risks within your organization; injury management, incentives and discipline and effective communication.


The outline for COSS which is the main course is presented below for individual analyses. Note that the name doesn't tell how rich or not it is. It only give insight on what is expected.

DAY 1

MODULE 1-INTRODUCTION TO COSS
• Review COSS course structure
• List the training objectives for each COSS module

MODULE 2-INTRODUCTION TO OSHA
• Describe the importance of OSHA
• Explain the rights employees have under OSHA
• Explain the responsibilities employees have under OSHA
• Demonstrate the use of OSHA standards and guidelines
• Summarize how OSHA inspections are covered
• Identify where you can go for more assistance

MODULE 3-RECORDING AND REPORTING OCCUPATIONAL INJURIES AND ILLNESSES
• Summarize the OSHA recordkeeping requirements
• Describe the rule’s organization, purpose and scope
• Identify work-related exemptions
• Describe recording criteria
• Learn to identify a fIrst-aid case
• Describe OSHA reporting requirements

MODULE 4-INCIDENCE RATES AND RESEARCH
• Calculate incidence rates
• Identify your industry’s NAICS and SIC codes
• Compare your NAICS/SIC code to other industries

DAY 2

MODULE 5-REAL COST OF WORKPLACE INJURIES
• Differentiate between direct and indirect costs of workplace injuries
• Calculate the effect injuries have on workers’ compensation premiums
• Measure the impact of injuries on profitability

MODULE 6-WORKSITE ANALYSIS/HAZARD PREVENTION AND CONTROL
• Define “hazard”
• Describe the basic hazard types
• Describe hazard control measures
• Identify tools for analyzing workplace hazards
SUBPART REVIEW: WALKING/WORKING SURFACES

DAY 3

MODULE 7-MULTI-EMPLOYER POLICY AND FOCUSED INSPECTIONS
• Identify categories of employers that can be cited by OSHA
• Identify the five elements of a multi-employer citation defense
• Evaluate and assess responsibilities in a multiemployer setting
• Describe conditions to qualify for focused inspections
-SUBPART REVIEW: ELECTRICAL
-SUBPART REVIEW: SCAFFOLDS
-SUBPART REVIEW: EMERGENCY ACTION PLANS

MODULE 8-PSYCHOLOGY AND SAFETY/BEHAVIOR-BASED SAFETY (BBS)
• Define psychology terminology
• Explain safety motivation concepts
• Discuss the pros and cons of safety incentive programs
• Describe the importance of a safety culture
• Explain principles and strategies of BBS
• Discuss steps in BBS implementation

MODULE 9-RISK ASSESSMENT/ACCIDENT CAUSATION AND INVESTIGATION
• Define accident terminology
• Describe the risk assessment process
• Identify the basic causes of accidents
• Describe the accident investigation process

DAY 4

MODULE 10-SUBPART REVIEW: FALL PROTECTION OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH
• Identify occupational health hazards
• Describe occupational health controls
• Describe the duties/responsibilities of an industrial hygienist
• Discuss OSHA’s silica rule

MODULE 11-HAZARD COMMUNICATION
• Describe basic requirements of the Hazard Communication Standard
• Explain the changes of the Globally Harmonized System (GHS) of Classification and Labeling of Chemicals

MODULE 12-MANAGEMENT OF A SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAM
• Describe and explain the functions of Safety & Health Program management
• Differentiate between line and staff functions
• Differentiate between audits and inspections
• Describe the characteristics of an audit
• List the steps of an audit
SUBPART REVIEW: CRANES
SUBPART REVIEW: PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
SUBPART REVIEW: MACHINE GUARDING

DAY 5-LAST DAY

MODULE 13- SUBPART REVIEW: LOCKOUT/TAGOUT SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAM
• Set up an effective safety and health program
• List the elements of a safety and health program
• Describe management leadership and employee involvement
• Implement a worksite analysis program
• Define hazard prevention and control
• Describe how safety and health training should be designed


Now, please individually people, please compare for yourselves with NEBOSH IGC, NGC, IDip or any other specialized NEBOSH Course and determine for yourselves if this is super better. It is a good course outline. However, choose for yourselves. SS seems more like HSE Level 2, COSS Seems more like HSE Level 1 or General HSE,while COSM Seems like Level 3 to me.

See, to me no training is a waste. But let us not start overhyping and trying to make sweeping generalizations on claims without factual evidence. How many COSS Trained people have you compared with NEBOSH Trained people to determine that COSS is better? How many employers have you interviewed who have told you that COSS trained employees perform better? On what statistics/data is this claim being made?

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by murphydon(m): 9:06am On Sep 17
Thank you Sir.

OmaniPadmeHum:


I have mentioned earlier the importance of getting professional qualifications. I might not understand your meaning of ''Work Well'' but please note the reasons for getting professional trainings/course.

1. To get professionally accepted for practice- Based on existing laws and guidelines
2. To acquire new knowledge/skills- based on what one does not know, needs to know and what the trainer can offer
3. To refresh past knowledge/skills- Based on what one has forgotten or areas one needs to refresh knowledge and skills

So the question you should ask is will these courses give you any of these advantages? If yes, then please go ahead and do them. raining shouldn't be done just because it would help you get a job. Unfortunately training costs money and as such financial needs are there which can be solved by being gainfully employed. However, I have seen employed people then do not even have time to train themselves. Even when they have time, they still don't want to spend the money.

ISO14000/ISO 14001

ISO 14001 is one of the series of standards under the ISO 14000 SERIES. ISO 14000 is a series of environmental management standards developed and published by the International Organization for Standardization ( ISO ) for organizations. The ISO 14000 standards provide a guideline or framework for organizations that need to systematize and improve their environmental management efforts in reducing their environmental footprint and operating in an environmentally sustainable manner.

Here is a list of some of the series under 14000:
-ISO 14001: Environmental Management Systems - Specification with guidance for use.
-ISO 14004: Environmental Management Systems - General guidelines on principles, systems.
-ISO 14010, 14011 and 14012: Guidelines for environmental auditing.
-ISO 14020, 14021, and 14024: Environmental Labels and Declarations.
-ISO 14031 and 14032: Environmental Management - Environmental Performance Evaluation (EPE).
-etc.
-etc.


OHSAS 18001

Please note that OSHAS 18001 was First Published in 1999. It is the first Health and Safety Management System Standard implemented globally. It was revised and re-issued in July 2007 and Later adopted as a British Standard.

NOTE HOWEVER THAT OSHAS 18001 is migrating to the new ISO 45001. So please instead of doing a course titled OHSAS 18001, Look for ISO 45001 and do that. By the initial timeline the migration from OHSAS 18001 to ISO 45001 should have commenced this year. I am currently unaware of the status of this migration.

Please, if you can, find a course on ISO 45001 and do this. It would professionally pay you better.

Good luck.
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by 48noble(m): 7:55am On Sep 21
OmaniPadmeHum:


it depends on what you want and the level of professionalism you want to obtain in the discipline. This entirely depends on your vision for your career path.

If you want to take HSE to a professional level and apply it to Geology e.g. risks of an earthquake, modelling risks of a land slide, a rock fall, modelling risks of an avalanche occurring given the available variables that causes this phenomenon, You actually can. This is very important to a lot of countries that face these phenomena.

All you need do is ask yourself, what level of professionalism do you want to attain, then you work your way to attain that level by doing the right professional courses or getting the right academic experiences and knowledge. There is a whole discipline of predicting and modelling natural disasters due to geologic/geomorphic processes.

Let me give you an example of a rudimentary and advanced levels of HSE Thought and Philosophy in some of the basic principles concerning the discipline.

In the basic class, you will learn simply that:


Risk=P x C -------------------------- 1

Where

P= Probability
C= Consequences

In its simplest term and based on what the basic HSE Courses teach you about the basic principles this is what you know.

But then when you get to the advanced level you can also know that Risk is as follows in an advanced setting:

Risk (R) = Pr (H) x Pr (E) x Pr (C)--------------------------------------- 2

• R = Risk
• Pr = Probability
• H = Hazard (probability of the existence, presence or availability of a hazard)
• E = Exposure (Probability of exposure to a hazard or a hazardous situation)
• C = Consequence/Effects (Probability of suffering a consequence or range of consequences from the exposure to a given level of exposure from the availability of a hazard)

That is, looking at risk from a probabilistic school of thought. I mean. You can either learn from the basics and then move upwards, or you can also jump into the advanced and curiously study the basics to understand the advanced. It can even get more complicated that this.

Another example of the knowledge of basic HSE Training is they teach you that you should see hazards as something that should be eliminated totally. Remove it. Destroy them. Let no hazard exist. Like some guy working in Subsea7 argued with me. Obviously he has studied basic HSE (Maybe level 1, 2 or 3) and felt he could argue with me on this. In his basic rudimentary opinion, all hazards should be eliminated. completely removed. They must not exist. I schooled him that if all hazards were eliminated there will hardly be development. Because things like Temperature, Pressure, Height, etc are necessary for processes and technological advancement. He suddenly saw my point. When producing crude oil for instance, you need it to be hot in certain points and to be cold in certain points. To make it hot or cold you use heat exchangers etc. Heat in itself is a hazard. But this can be controlled. Not all hazards can be eliminated they can only be controlled. He even was ignorant of the fact that their vessel working offshore was exposed to hazards which quite frankly they could do nothing about but to get insurance.

There is nothing like Zero Risk. It is only hypothetical. For there to be Zero risk, one of the functions in equations 1 or 2 above will have to be zero. NONE CAN EVER BE ZERO. They can only have a very low probability of occurrence to suit our usage and applications. We try as much as possible to get them away from 1 (certainty) and we work to make them lover and lower. Note also that risk does not only mean accident or incident. Risk is uncertainty. Uncertainty any unfavorable outcome we do not want. We are drilling an oil well. We want to hit oil and we do not want a dry hole. What are the factors that can affect us drilling a dry hole or hitting a 'wet' hole? This is why I like ISO 31000. It focuses on risks and informs you that risks vary from various schools of thought. HSE, Financial, Geologic, Business, etc....

Like I have advised on this forum, it is good to get the basic ideas about HSE then go further and get higher levels of qualification and specialization. Let me make something clear, the fact that you want to go for an Msc. in Safety Engineering does not imply that you should disregard the importance of ISPON or basic HSE Levels 1,2,3 trainings. If you think you need it. Please do it. Left to me, I would suggest before you go for the Msc. you even do ISPON to give you a basic idea of the HSE discipline entails.

Good luck.


greetings, my Boss. I've Been invited for an HSE manager/officer job interview by an oil and gas company. what are the very likely drills expected of me. note I've been with a construction company for a long time now.
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by OmaniPadmeHum: 10:15am On Sep 21
48noble:



greetings, my Boss. I've Been invited for an HSE manager/officer job interview by an oil and gas company. what are the very likely drills expected of me. note I've been with a construction company for a long time now.

It would not be fair if I start giving you such details.

The interview will be based on what the company does as an Oil and Gas Company. Their activities dictate their HSE Management System. Their HSE Management system dictates their HSE KPIs and Task and Targets. These HSE KPIs and Task/Targets dictate their daily/routine activities and specialized activities. It is the daily/routine and non routine activities that they want to make sure you can handle and occupy a position for.

If I tell you, Go and Learn the principles of SIMOPS/COMOPS etc... how do I know the services that the company offers requires an elaborate management system for SIMOPS/COMOPS?

The best thing is to try to know what the company is into, their HSE needs based on their activities. How technical is the company? What do they do in the Oil and Gas Value Chain? What are their activities and the HSE Risks in their activities. You can also try to be grounded in HSE Topics like these and more:

-Your basic principles (this is why we should always read and update our knowledge in the fundamental principles of the profession)
-Your HSE Statistics and their interpretation
-Your HSE Audits and Inspection Principles/processes
-Your conversance with Local and Internet regulations (EGASPIN, 2002, MOSR, 1997) and other international standards.
- Conversance with HSE report structure,Communication/presentation etc.
- General structure of the HSE Discipline and how each component falls into place.
- Your work order system (JHA, Work Permits)
- Safety Meetings..Tool box Talks, PEP talks etc.
- Contractor Safety Management
-Your conversance with ISO 14001, 31000 and 45000. Others like IEC 61508 etc..
- Safety culture programs creation and implementation e.g. like "icare" of Chevron; Goal Zero of Bristow etc.
-Emergency response system
-

I MEAN WHERE DO I START FROM? THESE THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW IN A HURRY. Unfortunately, preparation is done right from the first day you started the profession. It is quite difficult to tell you what to focus on.

I don't just want to list various areas so it doesn't seem I am showing off as some have privately accused me.

in many instances, even when you get to know the company and you try to predict their needs, they could ask you things that aren't even related. During my interview I was asked to talk about the company. Can you imagine that? Perhaps they looked at my CV and felt slightly intimidated or perhaps the interviewers were not even HSE Professionals. But I am always armed and ready HSE Wise. I am always reading etc.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by 48noble(m): 10:31am On Sep 21
OmaniPadmeHum:


It would not be fair if I start giving you such details.

The interview will be based on what the company does as an Oil and Gas Company. Their activities dictate their HSE Management System. Their HSE Management system dictates their HSE KPIs and Task and Targets. These HSE KPIs and Task/Targets dictate their daily/routine activities and specialized activities. It is the daily/routine and non routine activities that they want to make sure you can handle and occupy a position for.

If I tell you, Go and Learn the principles of SIMOPS/COMOPS etc... how do I know the services that the company offers requires an elaborate management system for SIMOPS/COMOPS?

The best thing is to try to know what the company is into, their HSE needs based on their activities. How technical is the company? What do they do in the Oil and Gas Value Chain? What are their activities and the HSE Risks in their activities. You can also try to be grounded in HSE Topics like these and more:

-Your basic principles (this is why we should always read and update our knowledge in the fundamental principles of the profession)
-Your HSE Statistics and their interpretation
-Your HSE Audits and Inspection Principles/processes
-Your conversance with Local and Internet regulations (EGASPIN, 2002, MOSR, 1997) and other international standards.
- Conversance with HSE report structure,Communication/presentation etc.
- General structure of the HSE Discipline and how each component falls into place.
- Your work order system (JHA, Work Permits)
- Safety Meetings..Tool box Talks, PEP talks etc.
- Contractor Safety Management
-Your conversance with ISO 14001, 31000 and 45000. Others like IEC 61508 etc..
- Safety culture programs creation and implementation e.g. like "icare" of Chevron; Goal Zero of Bristow etc.
-Emergency response system
-

I MEAN WHERE DO I START FROM? THESE THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW IN A HURRY. Unfortunately, preparation is done right from the first day you started the profession. It is quite difficult to tell you what to focus on.

I don't just want to list various areas so it doesn't seem I am showing off as some have privately accused me.

in many instances, even when you get to know the company and you try to predict their needs, they could ask you things that aren't even related. During my interview I was asked to talk about the company. Can you imagine that? Perhaps they looked at my CV and felt slightly intimidated or perhaps the interviewers were not even HSE Professionals. But I am always armed and ready HSE Wise. I am always reading etc.


u ve given me enough clues,thanks. u ve won my loyalty

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by OmaniPadmeHum: 5:54pm On Sep 21
HSE Environment Engineer (local)

Location :Lagos, Nigeria

Salary/Rate: Negotiable
Contract Location: Lagos, Nigeria
By: Onstream International B.V.

Expires: 19 Oct 2017

Qualifications: Bachelors Degree or equivalent

-Core Competence 1:Environment Management System/ISO 14001 Certification Driver

Ensure regular review and maintenance of the all CLIENT District Environmental Aspect and Environmental Legal Registers
Ensure significant environmental concerns are cascaded to the environment objectives and environmental management plan
To maintain CLIENT district Environmental Procedures including the Aspect Procedure, Environmental Management plan, Environmental Improvement Plan, Environment Monitoring Procedure, and Environment Record Procedure, oil spill contingency plans, and to organise and participate in exercise/audits to ensure the effectiveness of the plans.
To liaise with field operations to develop, facilitate review and maintenance of the procedures and systems in line with the ISO 14001 requirements including the competence assessment system, site document control, corrective action, HSE communication procedures.
To plan and participate in site environmental audits, and to monitor, follow-up and assess any agreed corrective recommendations as well as ensuring their implementation.
To review and maintain implementation of Environment Management Systems Trainings for site personnel and management
To maintain ISO 14001 Certification of OML130-AKPO FPSO.

-Core Competence 2: CLIENT district Environment studies: EBS, EIA.EER, PIA etc


To facilitate the scoping exercise for environment studies
To ensure that Environmental evaluation reviews are carried out for existing field.
To carry out environmental seabed survey for new CLIENT District development.
To facilitate regular impact mitigation monitoring visits with DPR and Federal Ministry of Environment
To liaise with DGEP/HSE/ENV on environmental related studies as required
To liaise with the regulators on issues related to CLIENT District Environmental activities.
To follow up reviews and approval of environmental studies

-Core Competence 3:Oil Spill Management


To liaise with all relevant entities on CLIENT District Oil Spill Preparedness and Response.
To Liaise with DPR, NOSDRA and other regulators to ensure compliance in oil spill related matters.
To ensure weathering test, trajectory monitoring and environmental sensitivity studies are carried out and results from these tests form the basis of the CLIENT district oil spill plan reviews and improvement
To ensure that oil spill plans are updated and exercises are routinely carried out.
To report all spills to the relevant authorities

-Core Competence 4:Waste Management


To ensure that contracts are in place for the removal and treatment of waste from CLIENT district operational site
To ensure that waste procedures and equipment are provide to facilitate segregation of waste on site
To ensure waste audits at the contractor’s sites and onboard CLIENT operational field,
To ensure that contractors are accredited and waste treatment facilities are approved by the DPR and FME

-Core Competence 5:Environmental Monitoring and Reporting (ENABLON)


To facilitate the weekly monitoring onboard the FPSO by third party consultants
To facilitate joint monitoring visits with DPR
To ensure submission of monthly and quarterly reports to DPR and FME respectively
To carry out feedback report to field asset operation on the environmental compliance status of site operations
To carry out audits at the contractor’s sites
To collate environmental data from technical logistics and field operations and send monthly environment reports to DGEP via enablon software
To collate and send bi-annual gas composition data to DGEP via enablon
To collate and send annual environment reports to DGEP via enablon

-Core Competence 6: Environmental Permits, Regulations anti Compliance


Verify and follow-up delivery of appropriate environmental authorisations needed for conducting operations
Represent the Company in relations with authorities and other operators on environmental matters
Provide advice to Line Managers to enable them undertake their activities in conformance with statutory requirements and applicable regulations

-Core Competence 7: Activity leader for Maestro principle HSE 01 (DW)


Ensure that improvement plan is defined
Liaise with Maestro Champion to implementation of improvement action plan
Follow up the Maestro actions in synergy
A seasoned Environmental scientist with Masters in Business Administration (MBA) and at least 10 years experience in environmental management activities for offshore and onshore engineering, construction and production of oil and gas.
Recognised Environmental Management qualification
Experience in EMS implementation, Environment Studies, Operations , Reporting and Oil spill management
Sound knowledge in Environment and Safety matters, eg legislations, codes of practice, Company specifications etc.
Good business orientation, strong interpersonal skills and communication abilities,
Good analytical skills and a keen sense of reality.
Good written and oral communication skills and power of persuasion are essential for interfacing with Asset Managers, regulatory authorities and environmental pressure groups
Strong team player with networking ability


https://www.oilandgasjobsearch.com/Oil-and-Gas-Jobs/Environmental-Engineer-Jobs/HSE-Environment-Engineer-local/Details/1250492


Please note that all the Talk About Maestro and Synergy etc... these are just computer software for HSE Management. You can see their YouTube video adverts to get conversant with how they work and how they are used.

Secondly, from my observation, you have to create a profile to apply.

Akpo is an FPSO operated by Total on an Offshore Oil Mining Block in OML 130.

The advert just reeks of Total with reference to the Akpo facility and with usual in-house and familiar abbreviations like DW, DGEP etc.

Good luck.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by JayEntaur(m): 7:39pm On Sep 21
OmaniPadmeHum:


It would not be fair if I start giving you such details.

The interview will be based on what the company does as an Oil and Gas Company. Their activities dictate their HSE Management System. Their HSE Management system dictates their HSE KPIs and Task and Targets. These HSE KPIs and Task/Targets dictate their daily/routine activities and specialized activities. It is the daily/routine and non routine activities that they want to make sure you can handle and occupy a position for.

If I tell you, Go and Learn the principles of SIMOPS/COMOPS etc... how do I know the services that the company offers requires an elaborate management system for SIMOPS/COMOPS?

The best thing is to try to know what the company is into, their HSE needs based on their activities. How technical is the company? What do they do in the Oil and Gas Value Chain? What are their activities and the HSE Risks in their activities. You can also try to be grounded in HSE Topics like these and more:

-Your basic principles (this is why we should always read and update our knowledge in the fundamental principles of the profession)
-Your HSE Statistics and their interpretation
-Your HSE Audits and Inspection Principles/processes
-Your conversance with Local and Internet regulations (EGASPIN, 2002, MOSR, 1997) and other international standards.
- Conversance with HSE report structure,Communication/presentation etc.
- General structure of the HSE Discipline and how each component falls into place.
- Your work order system (JHA, Work Permits)
- Safety Meetings..Tool box Talks, PEP talks etc.
- Contractor Safety Management
-Your conversance with ISO 14001, 31000 and 45000. Others like IEC 61508 etc..
- Safety culture programs creation and implementation e.g. like "icare" of Chevron; Goal Zero of Bristow etc.
-Emergency response system
-

I MEAN WHERE DO I START FROM? THESE THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW IN A HURRY. Unfortunately, preparation is done right from the first day you started the profession. It is quite difficult to tell you what to focus on.

I don't just want to list various areas so it doesn't seem I am showing off as some have privately accused me.

in many instances, even when you get to know the company and you try to predict their needs, they could ask you things that aren't even related. During my interview I was asked to talk about the company. Can you imagine that? Perhaps they looked at my CV and felt slightly intimidated or perhaps the interviewers were not even HSE Professionals. But I am always armed and ready HSE Wise. I am always reading etc.


Hi. Good evening.

I just stumbled on this thread today, and boy am I glad I did. From the little I've read so far of your posts, you're a veritable fountain of knowledge. Thanks for the good work.

I have ISPON GHSE and Level 3 Certifications, and a MSc in Biochemistry (Environmental). Needless to say, I'll be stalking you here to glean more knowledge from your apparently depthless fountain.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by ritzycul(m): 6:13am On Sep 22
OmaniPadmeHum:


It would not be fair if I start giving you such details.

The interview will be based on what the company does as an Oil and Gas Company. Their activities dictate their HSE Management System. Their HSE Management system dictates their HSE KPIs and Task and Targets. These HSE KPIs and Task/Targets dictate their daily/routine activities and specialized activities. It is the daily/routine and non routine activities that they want to make sure you can handle and occupy a position for.

If I tell you, Go and Learn the principles of SIMOPS/COMOPS etc... how do I know the services that the company offers requires an elaborate management system for SIMOPS/COMOPS?

The best thing is to try to know what the company is into, their HSE needs based on their activities. How technical is the company? What do they do in the Oil and Gas Value Chain? What are their activities and the HSE Risks in their activities. You can also try to be grounded in HSE Topics like these and more:

-Your basic principles (this is why we should always read and update our knowledge in the fundamental principles of the profession)
-Your HSE Statistics and their interpretation
-Your HSE Audits and Inspection Principles/processes
-Your conversance with Local and Internet regulations (EGASPIN, 2002, MOSR, 1997) and other international standards.
- Conversance with HSE report structure,Communication/presentation etc.
- General structure of the HSE Discipline and how each component falls into place.
- Your work order system (JHA, Work Permits)
- Safety Meetings..Tool box Talks, PEP talks etc.
- Contractor Safety Management
-Your conversance with ISO 14001, 31000 and 45000. Others like IEC 61508 etc..
- Safety culture programs creation and implementation e.g. like "icare" of Chevron; Goal Zero of Bristow etc.
-Emergency response system
-

I MEAN WHERE DO I START FROM? THESE THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW IN A HURRY. Unfortunately, preparation is done right from the first day you started the profession. It is quite difficult to tell you what to focus on.

I don't just want to list various areas so it doesn't seem I am showing off as some have privately accused me.

in many instances, even when you get to know the company and you try to predict their needs, they could ask you things that aren't even related. During my interview I was asked to talk about the company. Can you imagine that? Perhaps they looked at my CV and felt slightly intimidated or perhaps the interviewers were not even HSE Professionals. But I am always armed and ready HSE Wise. I am always reading etc.



This is very insightful for applicants.
Would you mind if a publish this. I will reference you accordingly. My publishing platform is (HSEWatch.com).
I need your response please.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by jiri123: 7:23pm On Sep 22
Good day house, I need professional advice. I have a level 1-3 on HSE, a project management, Autocad certification and I intend doing nebosh igc and ndt as well, would like to know if am in the right direction cause every one around me seem to think I am wasting my time and money on certificates. I would like someone to tell me if all am doing is right. Thank you
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by blueswan: 12:17pm On Sep 25
Hello all I intend to start a career path in HSE I kindly need sincere advice in this field concerning its viability and demand and also firms that one could secure employment in because I intend to continue to nebosh and be well grounded in it. Thank you
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by temitopeking(m): 2:28pm On Sep 28
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hustleranthem:
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by jiri123: 8:17pm On Sep 30
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by uyuoko(m): 10:51pm On Oct 03
hustleranthem:
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by uyuoko(m): 10:54pm On Oct 03
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by uptohim2: 5:41pm On Oct 08
Are you an HSE professional? Are you in touch with ideas, informations and trends in your field around the world? Do your have a go-to group when you run into a difficult task at work? Do you want to learn at least one thing in HSE every week?

Come in here. I have created a strictly HSE professional Whatsapp group for us. To join, drop your number in my inbox. Only HSE professionals please. Build bridges and stay on top. It's time to meet your professional colleagues in other companies and industries.

Remember, many HSE professionals are stranded and helpless because they have built walls instead of bridges.

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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by temitopeking(m): 1:21pm On Oct 09
08069296111

uptohim2:
Are you an HSE professional? Are you in touch with ideas, informations and trends in your field around the world? Do your have a go-to group when you run into a difficult task at work? Do you want to learn at least one thing in HSE every week?

Come in here. I have created a strictly HSE professional Whatsapp group for us. To join, drop your number in my inbox. Only HSE professionals please. Build bridges and stay on top. It's time to meet your professional colleagues in other companies and industries.

Remember, many HSE professionals are stranded and helpless because they have built walls instead of bridges.
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Kelviniyk01(m): 3:19pm On Oct 10
temitopeking:
08069296111
08106545438
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by bkjosh: 1:28am On Oct 11
uptohim2:
Are you an HSE professional? Are you in touch with ideas, informations and trends in your field around the world? Do your have a go-to group when you run into a difficult task at work? Do you want to learn at least one thing in HSE every week?

Come in here. I have created a strictly HSE professional Whatsapp group for us. To join, drop your number in my inbox. Only HSE professionals please. Build bridges and stay on top. It's time to meet your professional colleagues in other companies and industries.

Remember, many HSE professionals are stranded and helpless because they have built walls instead of bridges.


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