for example, in Ghana, the name John is seen as presidential, or otherwise VIP.


Which Yoruba names are considered as having that kind of connotation?


imo, i think any name beginning with "akin" generally instills some kind of awe in the hearer [in a normal setting that is, and all things being equal, barring any unforeseen circumstances].

olu, akin, ade etc. Get your cheap dats with bonus. Check my signature.

Olu is supposed to be reverence i think.

ie reverence for God.

the suffix is what would determine the name's reception.

Ade is also somewhat like Akin, but not exactly quite, although it does mean royal.

i think ola as a suffix is also considered important [ie significant].

eg jokotola [sits with wealth], eniola [wealthy person, or person of wealth],

Ade as a suffix is also considered significant.

my point of reference is a general sphere, not a political one.

ie in the context of "what were the parents intentions when giving the child this name".


In politics, generally names like olusegun [God's victory- actually just means victory or victor], babatunde [ancestors have arrived], oba-prefix, ade-prefix [and especially ade-suffix] are sure bankers in that arena. Like, the basic real McCoy.



just my opinions.

tpia6: my point of reference is a general sphere, not a political one.

ie in the context of "what were the parents intentions when giving the child this name".


In politics, generally names like olusegun [God's victory- actually just means victory or victor], babatunde [ancestors have arrived], oba-prefix, ade-prefix [and especially ade-suffix] are sure bankers in that arena. Like, the basic real McCoy.



just my opinions.

great tpia, i hail o.

Well you know how it goes with Yoruba names: Ile laawo kato s'omo loruko.

Parents always have reasons to recourse to the ancestral traditions before giving their children names, some of such reflects on parental oriki and some on Agbole. This is meant to attach a man to his patriarchal history so to say.

For instance, my own oriki-agbo ile is "omo ola", so my dad added Ola to all the names of my siblings, according to progression of male children in his descent. Of course his successful man, but the Ola he was ascribing to was not wealth per se, but family or ancestral tradition.

Goodspeed.

tpia6: Olu is supposed to be reverence i think.

ie reverence for God.

the suffix is what would determine the name's reception.

Ade is also somewhat like Akin, but not exactly quite, although it does mean royal.

Not too sure if in traditional setting Olu represent Oluwa, except until the advent of Christianity. But Olu is a derivative of Sango, the great. She was the historic Olu-Ko-So, Alado. Another Olu comes from Olumo, meaning Olu-omo. To this the Yoruba has a folksong:

Edumare funwa l'Olu omo,
Edumare funwa l'Olu omo,

Olu omo man dani lOrun o,
Edumare funwa lOlu omo.

God give us the crown child
God give us the crown child
the crown child delight the soul
God give us the crown child.

Meanwhile, the Yoruba understood Oluwa as Lord, so we can say in Yoruba, Oluwa-re, to mean 'oneself'. this is a contraption of a clause, meaning "Oluwa-ara-re" (Lord to himself), i.e. a free moral agent. like you have it here in a simple statement below:

one don't have to pay attention to every distractions.
Oluwa'e 'o ni lati f'iye si gbogbo iregbe-k'iregbe.

A section of Yoruba will say, "oun tika lara re" as a variant of oun fun(a)ra re, to mean 'one' has done something by 'himself' or personally. We can't exhaust all Yoruba codex, just have to keep digging.

Not too sure if in traditional setting Olu represent Oluwa, except until the advent of Christianity

it probably did?

Meanwhile, the Yoruba understood Oluwa as Lord, so we can say in Yoruba, Oluwa-re, to mean 'oneself'. this is a contraption of a clause

most likely.


a movie like Ti Oluwa Nile, for example, means God.

haven't watched it yet though, don't know the synopsis.

tpiander:


it probably did?





most likely.


a movie like Ti Oluwa Nile, for example, means God.

haven't watched it yet though, don't know the synopsis.

Olu(wa) means Lord, Lord could be the GOD you devote to or a great man you respect
a slave calls his master Oluwa, Kings are called Olu ie. Olufon, Olubadan, Olujido
Sango was called Olukoso

Christianity as a tool for distortion only make people think Olu refers to a God

macof:


Olu(wa) means Lord, Lord could be the GOD you devote to or a great man you respect
a slave calls his master Oluwa, Kings are called Olu ie. Olufon, Olubadan, Olujido
Sango was called Olukoso

Christianity as a tool for distortion only make people think Olu refers to a God

Exactly.... Olu simply means Lord, or Master.
Olorun from (Olu-Orun: Lord of the Heavens)
Olu of Warri (King of Warri)
Etc.

what are we arguing about here?

2prexios:




Well you know how it goes with Yoruba names: Ile laawo kato s'omo loruko.

true

Parents always have reasons to recourse to the ancestral traditions before giving their children names, some of such reflects on parental oriki and some on Agbole. This is meant to attach a man to his patriarchal history so to say.

that's right.

For instance, my own oriki-agbo ile is "omo ola", so my dad added Ola to all the names of my siblings, according to progression of male children in his descent. Of course his successful man, but the Ola he was ascribing to was not wealth per se, but family or ancestral tradition.

Goodspeed.

Ola also means family, not only wealth, true.

Ade, Olu, Akin, Enitan, Obafemi, Akanni, Adesegun and so on.
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^ why is Enitan on your list, just curious.

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