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Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 12:00am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Now I know this is a controversial question and many Christians either run away from it or choose to believe anything but meanwhile when I say Christians I don't mean religious people , church goers and the rest , I mean God's own people , not just his creation but his children and his beloved . If you fall into that category you can read on but if you don't I advice you to just click back now because you won't understand anything here , wanna know why? check 1st Corinthians 2:14. Now you've chosen to continue so I plead with you to read this carefully and with an open mind , am gonna post the scriptures here because I know many are to lazy to open their bible and that's why they perish because of lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6) This was written by two different characters in the bible . 1 John 3 (nkjv) Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God!a Therefore the world does not know us,b because it did not know Him. 2Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 3And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. Sin and the Child of God 4Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. The Imperative of Love 10In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 11For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous. 13Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brotherc abides in death. 15Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. The Outworking of Love 16By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him? 18My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth. 19And by this we knowd that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. 20For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things. 21Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave use commandment. The Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error 24Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. Romans 6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 12Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 13And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. From Slaves of Sin to Slaves of God 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. 18And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness. 20For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. ... |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by kilokeys(m): 12:23am On Sep 23, 2014 |
no we rnt.. we r righteous by the righteousness of christ Jesus... Sin is a nature. its a dead nature to a christian. we might err sometimes, then we repent. Repent is nt a word for unbelievers.. u cant repent when u dont know where u missed d way? sinners are meant to accept God's nature erring christians are meant to repent. 1 Like |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 12:37am On Sep 23, 2014 |
oh yeah , the answer to the question is right up there , its not as if we've not seen it before or heard about it but most times we just choose to be blind to it because we can't just imagine ourselves no longer sinners after all the Bible even said that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and I remember the very first day I came across 1 john 3:9 , I was so shocked that I had to close my bible immediately and I couldn't open it for days, I started asking myself why will the bible say a child of God cannot sin , it didn't even say will not sin but cannot , does that mean that though am a christian but because I commit sin am still the child of the devil ? , sincerely I couldn't understand it and not long I forgot about it and continued my carnal life but it couldn't continue for long because along the line I always had to go back to that scripture and when I finally understood it , it changed my life . First what is sin ? if you read the above passages well you will sin that sin is the transgression of the law, in the beginning there was nothing like sin till Adam transgressed a law and from then sin came into the world , at that time God wasn't pleased because he saw man moving far away from him so he had to bring written law which if they could obey they might closer to him but because of man's rebellious nature , they drew further away from God , now God needed this relationship with man and that what why he created him in the first place so he came down in form of a man to restore and acquire what has been taken away and give it back to us freely, let me tell you this , if the law could save you , Jesus wouldn't have come, but the law can't . Next we get born again by the blood of Jesus and what happens ? When you get born again our body remains thesame , even your soul ( your emotions , thoughts etc) remains the same but what changes? your spirit does , at that moment your old sinful spirit is removed and replaced with a new spirit that is holy , perfect and spotless and that is the new you (1 Corinthians 5:17) . you become spotless and without sin of any kind , this part of you doesn't need to be more holy or more perfect because it is already one with God . ....... 2 Likes |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 12:56am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Does this mean that when we are in Christ we suddenly can no longer sin make mistakes? NO . Our spirit has been changed , the sin nature is gone but our flesh is still this same and this is where you have work to do but still cannot do on your own . Now you need to conform to the new man inside of you and how do you do that ? by daily renewal of your mind (romans 12:2) . During this process we could make mistakes but we don't need to go wailing and crying to God , all we have to do is walk boldly to the throne of Grace to obtain two things 1. Mercy for the mistake made 2. Grace to be able to stand strong and overcome it . Notice the word boldly , God is not moved a bit by our tears , what moves him is faith , stop trying to be perfect , righteous or holy because no matter how hard you try , you can never be but instead step into the holy man already in you . Remember nothing unclean will enter heaven and also the prayer of a sinner is an abomination before God . Now let me clarify some verses that makes people still call themselves sinners like 'all have sinned and come short of the glory of God ' , if you read it well you will see that the bible said all have sinned , you , I and everyone but its in passed tense , when you read the bible please notice the tenses , before you became born again you were a sinner and short of his glory but when you become born again you are now the righteousness of God and full of his glory … 2 Likes |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Gombs(m): 6:05am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Well, mwe shouldn't. We no longer have the sin nature... However, only James in the NT Bible called believers sinners, wehn we get to heaven, we'd have to ask him why! 1 Like |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by dre11(m): 9:06am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Well Jesus Christ is only the perfect master .... Because he is God in a human form when he did come to save mankind So everyman aspire for perfection... And he wants us to aspire for that... So I just aspire for it and not thinking if I was or still a sinner or not Mah goal is that aspiration for perfection which I do pray for daily |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Sheenor: 10:34am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Learning. |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 10:34am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Embrace your carnality. We were all made to sin. Sin wisely. |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 12:30pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
dre11: Well Jesus Christ is only the perfect master .... Because he is God in a human form when he did come to save mankind yea he is the only perfect master and he said as he is so are we and we are one spirit with him. (eph 4:5) |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 12:30pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
sonOfLucifer: Embrace your carnality. We were all made to sin. Sin wisely. The last time I checked the topic said Christians |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Gombs(m): 2:25pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
sonOfLucifer: Embrace your carnality. We were all made to sin. Sin wisely. Oh! What a lonely sadistic sad sod |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 2:32pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Gombs:Who are you? |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Youngsage: 2:42pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
@elantracey God bless! By the way happy anniversary on nairaland to you today! |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 3:14pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Youngsage: @elantracey God bless! I was thinking it was 26th , thanks o |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Gombs(m): 7:58pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
sonOfLucifer: Jehovah's kid |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 8:05pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Gombs:A slave. 1 Like |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:09pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
what is anyone who commits sin called? |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:11pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
sonOfLucifer:why are u bearing that name? have u sold ur soul to d devil? |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 8:13pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: why are u bearing that name? have u sold ur soul to d devil?My soul is not for sale and can not be bought. I am a free son of Lucifer. Only slaves are bought at a price. Fucking Chrestards. 1 Like |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by zyzxx(m): 8:52pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
exactly thanks for sharing this |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Ukutsgp(m): 11:43pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
sonOfLucifer:i am happy to be Jesus christ slave. but i want u to know that u and ur master(Satan) will perish in hellfire. |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Nobody: 11:46pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: what is anyone who commits sin called? go up and read up what sin is |
Re: Are Christians Supposed To Call Themselves 'sinners' ? by Youngsage: 11:19am On Sep 24, 2014 |
Elantracey:you're welcome |
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