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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Omeiz4: 11:46pm On Oct 22, 2014
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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 12:09am On Oct 23, 2014
I see it as just another option they've made available to their employees. Those who wish to take it will, and those who do not will not be affected by it in the least. We can't all have the same perspective as to what constitutes an ideal life.

I sure as hell can't see how this is an an insult to 'womanhood/motherhood' @ OP.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by alejopataki(m): 1:48am On Oct 23, 2014
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ANTI CHRIST is making a guest appearance.Don't freeze your eggs,it is sinful and unbiblical. cry cry cry cry cry cry cry

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by red101(f): 2:51am On Oct 23, 2014
LOL. Why are so many men on here catching hypertension over an issue that doesn't concern them. It is some of these same men that like to make fun of women in their 30s and call them "expired goods" or make comments like "go and find a husband, your clock is ticking" now there is technology to freeze women's eggs and other fertility treatments so that women can have children later in life and we are still complaining. na wa

Google and facebook are not forcing anyone to freeze their eggs. They simply cover the cost as part of their medical insurance plan for the women who CHOOSE to do so. fertility treatments are expensive so it is nice to have an employer that covers the cost.
as the technology advances further, hopefully the cost will be driven down..

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by kandiikane(m): 3:34am On Oct 23, 2014
coogar:


i remember you now.
it just came to me - thanks to my eidetic memoryg]

You need to get the definition on eidetic memory before dashing it about like this.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by blakky97(m): 7:26am On Oct 23, 2014
crackhaus:

I really hope you asked me this question because you truly want to know the answer, and not in sly sarcasm. grin

Dude,
-2 + 7 = 5

-2 is negative, and counting upwards from -2 to +7 gives 9 digits (-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7).

The position of 5 on that number line is lesser than 7, and the answer 5 itself is also lesser than 9 if you are to add 7 to 2.

The point is that at the end of any calculation involving positive and negative in whatever order they're placed, the answer will still be a reduction from the highest digit on the LHS of the equation and not an addition...

Do you get it?

That's traditional mathematics.
Don't try to explain how (-) + (+) ALWAYS gives negative.
Instead, say (-) * (+) is ALWAYS negative.
Hmmn! Mehn the girl sitting next to me is smelling seriously, I gotta go.
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Imoy(m): 7:46am On Oct 23, 2014
naturally:
This is Serious.
Extract and keep ke?

What if it gets missing or contaminated? Guys really need to interview and Investigate
their gf/fiancée well o

When u say "investigate" wot do u mean? Pls explain
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by naturally: 8:07am On Oct 23, 2014
Imoy:


When u say "investigate" wot do u mean? Pls explain
Whatever you think I mean bro
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Angelou(m): 9:00am On Oct 23, 2014
that's too outrageous! it's the highest form of the capitalist's "profit-oriented" exploitation. embarassed

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by fairheven: 12:50pm On Oct 23, 2014
carefreewannabe:


You asked me "But which woman in her right senses wud want to delay child-birth...except in case of natural cause?."

and I showed you women we both know.

Well am not a "celebrity wannabe"may be you are,it doesn't freak me a bit,...if anything, I wd have shown the pictures of the likes OMOTOLA AND GENEVEIV NNAJI,who are just in their 30's but have daughters that are already teenagers ..that my friend..is life

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by fairheven: 12:54pm On Oct 23, 2014
red101:
LOL. Why are so many men on here catching hypertension over an issue that doesn't concern them. It is some of these same men that like to make fun of women in their 30s and call them "expired goods" or make comments like "go and find a husband, your clock is ticking" now there is technology to freeze women's eggs and other fertility treatments so that women can have children later in life and we are still complaining. na wa

Google and facebook are not forcing anyone to freeze their eggs. They simply cover the cost as part of their medical insurance plan for the women who CHOOSE to do so. fertility treatments are expensive so it is nice to have an employer that covers the cost.
as the technology advances further, hopefully the cost will be driven down..
Be sincere,wud you mind freezing yours? cool

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by calcal: 8:17pm On Oct 23, 2014
no problem, they have enough mexicans to fill the population gap. let them work pay tax for mexicans welfare.
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 10:33pm On Oct 23, 2014
pickabeau1:
moca

im not sure you understood the OP

He is saying rather than companies freezing eggs for female employees, they should make it easier for women to combine work and family together.

or are you reacting to something else ..

undecided
no mind am...

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by Nobody: 10:50pm On Oct 23, 2014
blakky97:


That's traditional mathematics.
Don't try to explain how (-) + (+) ALWAYS gives negative.
Instead, say (-) * (+) is ALWAYS negative.
Hmmn! Mehn the girl sitting next to me is smelling seriously, I gotta go.
LOL

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by red101(f): 1:25am On Oct 24, 2014
fairheven:

Be sincere,wud you mind freezing yours? cool

I certainly would especially if offered to me for free. It's a form of insurance. Most women plan to give birth in their prime years but sometimes life happens. we may not find the right partner on time or we may not be financially ready. In fact, some women may already have a child but when they turn 35+ they want another child but can't. In that case, they can use the frozen eggs to conceive another child.
there are many possibilities.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by fairheven: 7:46am On Oct 24, 2014
red101:


I certainly would especially if offered to me for free. It's a form of insurance. Most women plan to give birth in their prime years but sometimes life happens. we may not find the right partner on time or we may not be financially ready. In fact, some women may already have a child but when they turn 35+ they want another child but can't. In that case, they can use the frozen eggs to conceive another child.
there are many possibilities.
Hmm,Weneva you are ready to freeze,just let me know...so you can make use of my deep freezer,enof storage facility*,we have constant power,no failure cool grin ,that is the most important insurance : cool

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by TV01(m): 12:14pm On Oct 24, 2014
red101:
I certainly would especially if offered to me for free. It's a form of insurance. Most women plan to give birth in their prime years but sometimes life happens. we may not find the right partner on time or we may not be financially ready. In fact, some women may already have a child but when they turn 35+ they want another child but can't. In that case, they can use the frozen eggs to conceive another child. there are many possibilities.

Really?

This procedure – vitrification - is currently around a min of £5’000 per cycle, but will probably come down with technological efficiencies and more widespread commercialisation.

Even if it is “free” to end-users, there is a cost that has to be bourn somewhere. How will companies feel if they have to provide this kind of healthcare for women? How will it affect companies that simply can’t afford to provide it or remain competitive if they don’t?

What if it’s state funded, how will that impact healthcare provision? Presumably after unfreezing/defrosting, IVF will still be required to bring about conception?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/23/nhs-fertility-treatment-ivf-cuts-nice-ccgs
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/may/10/ivf-nhs-fertility-postcode-lottery-cut-costs

Do you know the failure rate of this procedure is close to 80% for women age 30? And close to 90% for women age 40? Do you have an idea of the number of “live births” we’ve actually had worldwide by this technique? .Did you know that some of the chemicals used are harmful to embryos of which the egg will eventually form a part?

I’ll spare you the horrors of the actual procedure to “harvest” viable eggs, or the unknowns/concerns about the actual health of babies born this way. Anyone interested may care too look into this further.

My point of writing – as ever – is to draw attention to the fact that families (men, women & children), and society as a whole flourish best when we consider and act on biological and social imperatives that ensure there’s a balance between considering them individually and as a whole.

I love my women and I am truly astonished that some actually believe that;

- “Careers” can be as or more important than marriage & children (if marriage & children are indeed a desire), and the natural fertility window should be ignored or manipulated in order to ”have it all”
- That termination of pregnancies for any reason and at any time – when one abortion increases the risk of serious pathology by as much as 50% - is good – both morally and for their health.
- That dosing on chemicals/hormones and wreaking havoc on natural fertility cycles to avoid “unwanted pregnancies” is good for you and an absolute necessity.

More astonished, as all these are sold to you under the guise “reproductive health”, “choice” and “empowerment”, when apart from wreaking havoc on your bodies and often peddling false hope, one of the things it does is allows men to enjoy their lusts without consequence – I’d call that abuse & exploitation.

And most astonished because I doubt that very few men would put themselves through any of that if the positions were reversed – and especially not for women – I certainly wouldn’t.


TV

**I’m hungry cool **

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by mojeer678: 11:53pm On Oct 24, 2014
TV01:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oocyte?s=t
http://www.webmd.boots.com/menopause/guide/premature-menopause

Professor, we welcome your gargantuan intellect and look forward to many years of enlightenment grin!

Help yourself to lipstick or nuts as appropriate cheesy!


TV

cheeky grin
Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 11:48am On Oct 25, 2014
kandiikane:


You need to get the definition on eidetic memory before dashing it about like this.

bush woman!
if you dunno the meaning of the word, kindly ask me & i will help you.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by kandiikane(m): 12:04pm On Oct 25, 2014
coogar:


bush woman!
if you dunno the meaning of the word, kindly ask me & i will help you.
Don't embarrass yourself. Do your research.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 12:16pm On Oct 25, 2014
kandiikane:

Don't embarrass yourself. Do your research.

you are the one embarrassing yourself here....

eidetic memory = photographic memory!
what research do you need done here? you mean you need wikipedia as usual to decipher whatever i write?

no wonder you go to hertfordshire uni - that is where people of your ilk belong.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by kandiikane(m): 12:24pm On Oct 25, 2014
coogar:


you are the one embarrassing yourself here....

eidetic memory = photographic memory!
what research do you need done here? you mean you need wikipedia as usual to decipher whatever i write?

no wonder you go to hertfordshire uni - that is where people of your ilk belong.
Wow!!! I cannot help but laugh at how dumb you actually are. Ediots, they talk shyt yet fail to actually do extensive research. When you hear someone say something and they tell you 'it is this', do your own bit and find out the meaning by yourself rather than arguing with someone who actually reads a book or two.
In fact, I won't feed you, you have to do this yourself. I want your brain to grow and come out of that dumb state it's in. Read a book!

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 12:29pm On Oct 25, 2014
kandiikane:

Wow!!! I cannot help but laugh at how dumb you actually are. Ediots, they talk shyt yet fail to actually do extensive research. When you hear someone say something and they tell you 'it is this', do your own bit and find out the meaning by yourself rather than arguing with someone who actually reads a book or two.

this is the reason you couldn't get into any russell-group school & you had to settle for community polytechnics turned university. if eidetic memory is the same as photographic memory, why is it so wrong for me to use it in a sentence?

you have been outstanding for the last 3 months but you have reverted back to your dümb status yet again. it must be the water or those gambian food you love to eat. don't be jealous of my innate ability to remember the minutest of detail about anything.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by kandiikane(m): 1:04pm On Oct 25, 2014
coogar:


this is the reason you couldn't get into any russell-group school & you had to settle for community polytechnics turned university. if eidetic memory is the same as photographic memory, why is it so wrong for me to use it in a sentence?

you have been outstanding for the last 3 months but you have reverted back to your dümb status yet again. it must be the water or those gambian food you love to eat. don't be jealous of my innate ability to remember the minutest of detail about anything.

Ediot, who told you eidetic is the same as photographic memory. And this Ediot is even confident in saying it. It's dumb people like you who mix up the two and more dumb.fools like you who continue to believe it without reading on any of them. I am certain you were feeling funky writing down eidetic memory instead of photographic memory because you thought, "oh a different word, will make me seem intelligent". Mumu, read a book, talking all that shyt still doesn't make you intelligent.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 1:07pm On Oct 25, 2014
kandiikane:


Ediot, who told you eidetic is the same as photographic memory. And this Ediot is even confident in saying it. It's dumb people like you who mix up the two and more dumb.fools like you who continue to believe it without reading on any of them. I am certain you were feeling funky writing down eidetic memory instead of photographic memory becaus you thought, "oh a different word, will make me seem intelligent".

you are a fool!
eidetic memory is photographic memory.

http://www.improve-memory-skills.com/types-of-memory.html

http://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-have-a-photographic-eidetic-memory

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by kandiikane(m): 1:29pm On Oct 25, 2014
coogar:


you are a fool!
eidetic memory is photographic memory.

http://www.improve-memory-skills.com/types-of-memory.html

http://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-have-a-photographic-eidetic-memory

Ediot, read a scientific journal not a website made by dumb people like you who also fail to read. Eidetic memory has been proven, photographic memory has not. Eidetic memory occurs in children, rarely in adults and fades within a few minutes. Photographic memory is still yet to be proven. Eidetic memory has no correlation with a person's intelligence. An Eidetic memory cannot retain a body of text from months ago so that statement about remembering stuff on here as an eidetic memory is a big fat fail. Read a book.

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 1:39pm On Oct 25, 2014
kandiikane:


Ediot, read a scientific journal not a website made by dumb people like you who also fail to read. Eidetic memory has been proven, photographic memory has not. Eidetic memory occurs in children, rarely in adults and fades within a few minutes. Photographic memory is still yet to be proven. Eidetic memory has no correlation with a person's intelligence. An Eidetic memory cannot retain a body of text from months ago so that statement about remembering stuff on here as an eidetic memory is a big fat fail. Read a book.

you are the biggest plonker known to man!
eidetic memory does retain a body of text, you doofus. jon von neumanm had eidetic memory & he could reel out anything he's read in the past word for word. who told you eidetic memory has an expiry date? were you born feet first?

this is how idïots like you come online to contest what you know absolutely nothing about. ferdinand marcos could read out a whole country's constitution from memory years after he read it the first time & you are here disgracing your national flag. you have the brain power of a pubic louse.

fall off a stairwell & die....you are a waste of oxygen!

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 2:09pm On Oct 25, 2014
list of people with eidetic memory

John von Neumann, was able to memorize a column of the phone book at a single glance.[10] Herman Goldstine wrote about him: "One of his remarkable abilities was his power of absolute recall. As far as I could tell, von Neumann was able on once reading a book or article to quote it back verbatim; moreover, he could do it years later without hesitation."

meanwhile, according to a village goat known as kandiikane, eidetic memory cannot go beyond or retain a body of text from few months ago. cheesy grin

you are a disgrace to hertfordshire university

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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by coogar: 2:09pm On Oct 25, 2014
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Re: Facebook And Apple To Freeze Eggs For Their Female Employees by kandiikane(m): 2:57pm On Oct 25, 2014
coogar:


you are the biggest plonker known to man!
eidetic memory does retain a body of text, you doofus. jon von neumanm had eidetic memory & he could reel out anything he's read in the past word for word. who told you eidetic memory has an expiry date? were you born feet first?

this is how idïots like you come online to contest what you know absolutely nothing about. ferdinand marcos could read out a whole country's constitution from memory years after he read it the first time & you are here disgracing your national flag. you have the brain power of a pubic louse.

fall off a stairwell & die....you are a waste of oxygen!

Is there such a thing as a photographic memory? And if so, can it be learned?
March 12, 2007
Alan Searleman, a professor of psychology at St. Lawrence University and co-author of the college textbook Memory from a Broader Perspective, explains.
In the scientific literature, the term eidetic imagery comes closest to what is popularly called photographic memory. The most common way to identify eidetikers (as people with eidetic imagery are often called) is by the Picture Elicitation Method. In it, an unfamiliar picture is placed on an easel and a person carefully scans the entire scene. After 30 seconds have elapsed, the picture is removed from view, and the person is asked to continue to look at the easel and to report anything that they can observe. People possessing eidetic imagery will confidently claim to still "see" the picture. In addition, they can scan it and examine different parts of it just as if the picture were still physically present. Consequently, one of the hallmarks of eidetic imagery is that eidetikers use the present tense when answering questions about the missing picture, and they can report in extraordinary detail what it contained.
Eidetic images differ from other forms of visual imagery in several important ways. First, an eidetic image is not simply a long afterimage, since afterimages move around when you move your eyes and are usually a different color than the original image. (For example, a flash camera can produce afterimages: the flash is bright white, but the afterimage is a black dot, and the dot moves around every time you move your eyes.) In contrast, a true eidetic image doesn¿t move as you move your eyes, and it is in the same color as the original picture. Second, a common visual image that we can all create from memory (such as an image of a bedroom) does not have the characteristics of most eidetic images, which almost always fade away involuntarily and part by part. Also, it is not possible to control which parts of an eidetic image fade and which remain visible. Unlike common visual images created from memory,[b] most eidetic images last between about half a minute to several minutes only, and it is possible to voluntarily destroy an eidetic image forever by the simple act of blinking intentionally. [/b]Furthermore, once gone from view, rarely can an eidetic image ever be retrieved.
most research has shown that virtually no adults seem to possess the ability to form eidetic images.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-such-a-thing-as/

According to theories, a person with a photographic memory is capable of remembering scenes and events as detailed, precise images. Numerous scientific studies have suggested that the photographic memory is probably purely legendary, as no demonstrations of a truly photographic memory have ever been documented. Some people, however, have what is known as an eidetic memory, a related but somewhat different concept. The terms “eidetic” and “photographic” are sometimes confused, especially in the popular media, and some people may refer to a photographic memory when they really mean an eidetic memory.

Proponents of the belief that a photographic memory really does exist say that some people are capable of storing information in the form of detailed images which can be recalled at will. A person with such a memory, for example, would be able to describe a painting in detail after seeing it once, or be able to recite passages from a book he or she had only seen in passing. People are in fact capable of such feats, but this appears to be the result of rigorous mental training, rather than an actual photographic memory.
[In an eidetic memory, people store visual information with a high level of precision, and this allows them to repeat information in exhaustive detail, but usually only shortly after being exposed to it. Eidetic memory appears to be most common in children, typically fading with age, and some researchers have suggested that this may be because children are more likely to store information in a purely visual way, rather than trying to verbally describe the things they see/quote]

[quoteIn the case of individuals who have an eidetic memory, they appear to store information in fundamentally different ways which facilitate a very high level of recall. This type of memory is not quite the same thing as the famed “photographic memory” which pops up periodically in the popular media, not least because photographic memories are often attributed to adults, and children are actually more likely to have an eidetic memory.
http://m.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-photographic-memory.htm

The popular term photographic memory refers to the ability to capture and store an exact replicate of an image (like a photograph) in one’s brain and perfectly recall the image at a later time point. This differs slightly from eidetic memory. People with eidetic memory are able to reproduce a previously viewed image in their mind, maintaining general physical qualities such as spatial organization, color, and texture. As described by Searleman (2007), a true eidetic image does not move when one moves their eyes. Thus, an eidetic image is not simply an afterimage, which usually moves and is often different in color from the original image. Eidetic images usually fade away involuntarily after a few minutes, and the image is lost upon blinking. Once an eidetic image has faded away, it can rarely – arguably never – be retrieved.

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