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QUESTION: Do any of you recall your family telling you about some of your family being taken as slaves in foreign land?

My uncle said that the slaves families were all killed in Africa or starved and that very few of them had family left here...so that is why none of us searched for relatives.

Is this true?



BACKGROUND IN CASE ANYONE CARES:

I need you guys help, I am in the middle of a debate. I have had this debate for two weeks, I have neglected my other threads arguing with my uncle. THANK YOU FOR ANY RESPONSES. @fulaman198 I think this could bridge the gap in the 1st diaspora. Can you place this on the front page?

I am trying to tag everyone I follow or has very good insight but I cant remember them all: @morpheus24 @hotep @stoical @ezeuche @ezeagu @spectroscopic

Should I bother or not?

itstpia1:
Should I bother or not?

Well I guess not if you dont want to know. Some say that we were like: meh, oh well..those were the slaves. I am about African and black unity, it might be painful (resentment, bitterness, shared common ignorance) - but if our unity can overthrow western supremacy, I think my research is no longer in vain!

Hope you understand.

black247:
@bigfrancis21 @fulaman198 @camnewton4pres @tunetokheyno @drnoel @victor1464 @christopher123 @odumchi @odilafta @teechudley @ancientjerk @africanapple @andreuweh @atlwireles @igbo2011 @muafrika @kingston277 and ALL.



QUESTION: Do any of you recall your family telling you about some of your family being taken as slaves in foreign land?

My uncle said that the slaves families were all killed in Africa or starved and that very few of them had family left here...so that is why none of us searched for relatives.

Is this true?



BACKGROUND IN CASE ANYONE CARES:

I need you guys help, I am in the middle of a debate. I have had this debate for two weeks, I have neglected my other threads arguing with my uncle. THANK YOU FOR ANY RESPONSES. @fulaman198 I think this could bridge the gap in the 1st diaspora. Can you place this on the front page?

I am trying to tag everyone I follow or has very good insight but I cant remember them all: @morpheus24 @hotep @stoical @ezeuche @ezeagu @spectroscopic

This your question wear raincoat o
lemme ask the ancestors

black247:


Well I guess not if you dont want to know. Some say that we were like: meh, oh well..those were the slaves. I am about African and black unity, it might be painful (resentment, bitterness, shared common ignorance) - but if our unity can overthrow western supremacy, I think my research is no longer in vain!

Hope you understand.

I meant should I bother posting on the thread when you have google.

itstpia1:


I meant should I bother posting on the thread when you have google.

Google vs your PERSONAL experiences?

Interesting. Well this seems like too tough of a task for you.


FOR FUTURE READERS:

My question in the title was in other words: HAVE YOU PERSONALLY HEARD OF YOUR RELATIVES BEING TAKEN AS SLAVES?

I thought that was clear in the title.

Odilafta:


This your question wear raincoat o
lemme ask the ancestors

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The. Answer to this question is dicey and must be tackled systematically ...majority of families in sub Sahara Africa was taken by slavery but the snag is that we do not have records of who and which family was taken as slaves ....I mean we are just inventing data centers to store data ...the only bet is genetics

Can we know the basis of the argument bro so that I can give you my own submission.

I don't don't want to be the man that was not there when the burial ceremony was going on and he was told to exhume ..he will start by the leg ...Igbo proverb


So what's the argthe argument about it

I will try to ask around
But I doubt any was taken, my kins are pretty deep in equatorial forest + and we have always played a key or dominant position in the area for us to b slave

I'm talking about my ethnic group



Our names alone mean Lords and free people , so know slavery or raids are not part of our collective memory .but like I said I will ask

How I wan take know?

christopher123:
I






The. Answer to this question is dicey and must be tackled systematically ...majority of families in sub Sahara Africa was taken by slavery but the snag is that we do not have records of who and which family was taken as slaves ....I mean we are just inventing data centers to store data ...the only bet is genetics

Can we know the basis of the argument bro so that I can give you my own submission.

I don't don't want to be the man that was not there when the burial ceremony was going on and he was told to exhume ..he will start by the leg ...Igbo proverb


So what's the argthe argument about it

Ok! So glad you came in!

I will give you a detailed background, didnt want to bore anyone!

MORE DETAILED BACKGROUND:
The argument brought to me from a British Jamaican that the reason the first diaspora is disconnected from Africans is because not only did we help sell them, we didnt come to find them either.

I argued that we didnt have a method, it was chaotic. I presented this to my elder (85) and he argued with me that many if not all were killed so there is virtually none of their ancestors left on the continent. He didnt say a percentage, but how he described the finite number, itd be less than 1%. That seems too low.

Then I told him that the tests were marking some of them back to Africa. He claimed (and keep in mind he has no experience with these tests but he insisted!) that the tests only show that they are African, as he believes that we are all going to test as related kin.

RECAP: So my question is ...is he (my uncle) right, that many were starved and killed..those that were not captured, their family members were killed? Or, am I right...there was too much confusion to pass it on? Or is my Jamaican friend right that they knew and simply didnt pass the story on as time went on..it didnt matter?

Thanks for the records/data info! My family never said we had slaves in an away land!

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
I will try to ask around
But I doubt any was taken, my kins are pretty deep in equatorial forest + and we have always played a key or dominant position in the area for us to b slave

I'm talking about my ethnic group



Our names alone mean Lords and free people , so know slavery or raids are not part of our collective memory .but like I said I will ask

Ok! Thank you! Itd settle up a three way debate!!

black247:
@bigfrancis21 @fulaman198 @camnewton4pres @tunetokheyno @drnoel @victor1464 @christopher123 @odumchi @odilafta @teechudley @ancientjerk @africanapple @andreuweh @atlwireles @igbo2011 @muafrika @kingston277 and ALL.



QUESTION: Do any of you recall your family telling you about some of your family being taken as slaves in foreign land?

My uncle said that the slaves families were all killed in Africa or starved and that very few of them had family left here...so that is why none of us searched for relatives.

Is this true?



BACKGROUND IN CASE ANYONE CARES:

I need you guys help, I am in the middle of a debate. I have had this debate for two weeks, I have neglected my other threads arguing with my uncle. THANK YOU FOR ANY RESPONSES. @fulaman198 I think this could bridge the gap in the 1st diaspora. Can you place this on the front page?

I am trying to tag everyone I follow or has very good insight but I cant remember them all: @morpheus24 @hotep @stoical @ezeuche @ezeagu @spectroscopic

Ok requested, to answer the original question, it's highly unlikely that any of my family members were ever sent as slaves to the Americas. Most people enslaved were not Fulani unless they came from Fouta Djallon, but Fulani and Senegambians in general were not enslaved as much. Some Wolof though were.

Fulaman198:


Ok requested, to answer the original question, it's highly unlikely that any of my family members were ever sent as slaves to the Americas. Most people enslaved were not Fulani unless they came from Fouta Djallon, but Fulani and Senegambians in general were not enslaved as much. Some Wolof though were.

Thank you my brother!! Maybe we can build bridges!!

Im afraid though that my know it all uncle might be right, by your answer!!

I will ask offline and find out too!

black247:


Google vs your PERSONAL experiences?

Interesting. Well this seems like too tough of a task for you.


FOR FUTURE READERS:

My question in the title was in other words: HAVE YOU PERSONALLY HEARD OF YOUR RELATIVES BEING TAKEN AS SLAVES?

I thought that was clear in the title.

Are you unaware there are entire towns and communities consisting of returnees all over africa?

This is why I say you shouldn't ignore google.

@ topic



So basically what you're saying ( or trying to say) is the slaves in the places you mention had all their african families killed off or sold and this was why they could not contact their places of origin during slavery?

My tribes men have an account of all the generations, from the founder of the tribe, who for my case was a nilote who was integrated into a bantu Kingdom. His wives, about ten in total gave birth to the subtribes, who though speaking the same language, they vary from one subtribe to the other. The sons of our founders wives are the founders of our varying clans. these all live traditinally in the same arrangement. for my case, my entire tribe occupies an entire administrative province. We have physical features distinct from other neighbouring tribes, and until recently, have been in on and off wars. The tribal bond is of blood, literally, and even todays politics are so tribal, at times leading to tribal wars. This tribal hatred might have fuelled the slave trade, and due to the defensive nature of tribes concerning even the least of their members, it could only have happened when such a people were completely disabled. As for Lost relatives, my extended family lost one adventurer in 1900s. Who knows.

christopher123:
I






The. Answer to this question is dicey and must be tackled systematically ...majority of families in sub Sahara Africa was taken by slavery but the snag is that we do not have records of who and which family was taken as slaves ....I mean we are just inventing data centers to store data ...the only bet is genetics

Can we know the basis of the argument bro so that I can give you my own submission.

I don't don't want to be the man that was not there when the burial ceremony was going on and he was told to exhume ..he will start by the leg ...Igbo proverb


So what's the argthe argument about it

Majority? No. transatlantic slave trade was concetrated in the west African coast. A few East and Central africans also through the portugees who landed in East African coast in the 1400s and traded with the Omani Arabs in slaves. Most of Africa had no idea of what was happening, especially those living away from coasts. Many still don't know.

black247:
@africanapple and ALL.



QUESTION: Do any of you recall your family telling you about some of your family being taken as slaves in foreign land?

My uncle said that the slaves families were all killed in Africa or starved and that very few of them had family left here...so that is why none of us searched for relatives.

Is this true?



BACKGROUND IN CASE ANYONE CARES:

I need you guys help, I am in the middle of a debate. I have had this debate for two weeks, I have neglected my other threads arguing with my uncle. THANK YOU FOR ANY RESPONSES. @fulaman198 I think this could bridge the gap in the 1st diaspora. Can you place this on the front page?

I am trying to tag everyone I follow or has very good insight but I cant remember them all: pic

as for me, none of my family that I know nor heard of were taken anywhere as slaves. what are u using did debate for if I may ask, I mean what's d purpose of argument

I don't know if any of my family was taken off.

Fulaman198:


Ok requested, to answer the original question, it's highly unlikely that any of my family members were ever sent as slaves to the Americas. Most people enslaved were not Fulani unless they came from Fouta Djallon, but Fulani and Senegambians in general were not enslaved as much. Some Wolof though were.

How suspicious...

muafrika:
How suspicious...

How exactly is that highly suspicious my friend? What exactly are you trying to imply?

Fulaman198:


How exactly is that highly suspicious my friend? What exactly are you trying to imply?

People living in a place where slave trade is rife. All their neighbours get sold into slavery. They remain unscathed. I wonder why.

muafrika:
People living in a place where slave trade is rife. All their neighbours get sold into slavery. They remain unscathed. I wonder why.

A lot of our neighbors were not sold into slavery. The Tuaregs, the Hausa, the Kanuri, etc. I think it was more of a geographical thing. Those living on the tropical coasts were sold more than those living in the more harsh semi-arid to arid areas of West Africa

Fulaman198:


A lot of our neighbors were not sold into slavery. The Tuaregs, the Hausa, the Kanuri, etc. I think it was more of a geographical thing. Those living on the tropical coasts were sold more than those living in the more harsh semi-arid to arid areas of West Africa

Makes sense now.