lexyman:


Bro , I don't think so ....Moses had a minor knock and he did informed the coach officially about it ....let's just accept him. With his present form and skills Oliseh will be left wit so many options in the wing and I wish to see the 3 wingers on the pitch , either simon or victor Moses playing the free role , let enjoy fast counter attack for the first time in d super eagles .

icon4ss:


Oliseh has come out quickly as usual to threaten nt to invite Victor Moses again as long as he remains coach. We cannot b losing our key players due to hasty decisions of Oliseh. I know d NFF will come into this one again. Oliseh must invite Victor Moses for our next month's WC qualifiers. I will also like to see Sone Aluko and Michael Babatunde back in dat midfield as Rabiu and Obiorah are nt measuring up.And I think its high time d coach lets go of Emenike. We have waited enough for him to regain form. Oliseh should give dat spot to any of Aaron Samuel, Isaac Success or Imoh Ezekiel.

lexyman:



Good one bro , Simon has so much to offer .... And he's still very young ,funny enough , there is Oghnekaro Etebor in that wing too , and 2 others , all of them can play from the left wing . I foresee the under 23 team becoming the indomitable team soon .

lexyman:


Bro , I don't think so ....Moses had a minor knock and he did informed the coach officially about it ....let's just accept him. With his present form and skills Oliseh will be left wit so many options in the wing and I wish to see the 3 wingers on the pitch , either simon or victor Moses playing the free role , let enjoy fast counter attack for the first time in d super eagles .

lexyman:


Do u have any link for the threat? I think Oliseh should invite Sone Aluko and Babatunde Michael , Michael is fast and can do a lot of damage with his skills , we need Isaac Success to replace Emenike . And we need a very good keeper to stand in that position to compete with Carl IKeme , d defense line need little adjustment , but when all of them are fully fit we can have solid rock in the back line

terzurum5:

It was when I was about to do that, that Moses Simon gave some strong and convincing reasons to revisit his player selection, during the just concluded FIFA U20 WORLD CUP.

icon4ss:


I dnt think i can lay my hands on any link bt that was in d news early last week when Victor Moses asked to b excused for fear of injuries.

On d backline I have always been of d opinion dat since we have Leon Balogun now Ambrose should go back to his central defencive position. Ambrose should b made to pair up with Omeruo at Centre back while Obaobona and Troost-Ekong deputise for d duo. Leon Balogun can play his natural right back. Hey! bt I thought Shehu Abdulahi used to play in d midfield (2013 FIFA U20 & 2014 CHAN). Oliseh has converted him to a right back which he did excellently well. For our left back, I think Echiejile's game has moved some steps backwards and so I would like to see more of Kingsley Madu in dat position. 4 or 5 members of dat defence are U23: Kingsley Madu, William Troost-Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo, Abdulahi Shehu and Wilfred Ndidi.
Consider these 5 Centre Forwards: Imoh Ezekiel, Aaron Samuel, Isaac Success, Taiwo Awoniyi, Junior Ajayi. All are U23.
Dnt even let me mention d wingers, attacking and central midfielders.

A very strong U23 team loading.....

icon4ss:


Oliseh has come out quickly as usual to threaten nt to invite Victor Moses again as long as he remains coach. We cannot b losing our key players due to hasty decisions of Oliseh. I know d NFF will come into this one again. Oliseh must invite Victor Moses for our next month's WC qualifiers. I will also like to see Sone Aluko and Michael Babatunde back in dat midfield as Rabiu and Obiorah are nt measuring up.And I think its high time d coach lets go of Emenike. We have waited enough for him to regain form. Oliseh should give dat spot to any of Aaron Samuel, Isaac Success or Imoh Ezekiel.

joseph1013:


I notice that you never mention Obafemi Martins. Is that intentional? Is there something the guy has done wrong? You want Imoh Ezekiel more than Martins? Why?

icon4ss:


Obafemi Who? Then we can as well invite Yakubu Ayegbeni, John Utaka, Obinna Nsofor, Shola Ameobi, Osaze Odemwingie, Taye Taiwo, Chidi Odiah, Yusuf Ayila and the likes cos dat is d generation he belongs to and nt this generation. We are building for d future bro.

REALLY You seriously compare retired and semi-retired players like Shola, Utaka, Taye, Chidi and Ayila with someone playing top flight football? You compare Osaze that has not played for months because he's been blighted with injuries with someone who scores almost in every game and whose goals get nominated for goal of the week regularly?

WOW. This is serious!

icon4ss:


Obafemi Who? Then we can as well invite Yakubu Ayegbeni, John Utaka, Obinna Nsofor, Shola Ameobi, Osaze Odemwingie, Taye Taiwo, Chidi Odiah, Yusuf Ayila and the likes cos dat is d generation he belongs to and nt this generation. We are building for d future bro.

icon4ss:


Obafemi Who? Then we can as well invite Yakubu Ayegbeni, John Utaka, Obinna Nsofor, Shola Ameobi, Osaze Odemwingie, Taye Taiwo, Chidi Odiah, Yusuf Ayila and the likes cos dat is d generation he belongs to and nt this generation. We are building for d future bro.

joseph1013:

Where is the writeup?

joseph1013:


I notice that you never mention Obafemi Martins. Is that intentional? Is there something the guy has done wrong? You want Imoh Ezekiel more than Martins? Why?

BascoVanVeli:


Wow I also questioned that decision because the boy is a player and doesn't mind playing any position but Savior Godwin is also a quality prospect.
I don't mind people questioning Manu. I only say they should stick to the issue and not throw dirt on the man like he is an armed robber or something. The situation is simple Manu chose a Philosophy that didn't work, we can say his philosophy was trash but what we can't and should not do is try to erase the man from our history. The thing is this, I have no gun so it is not by force for anyone to agree with me but I won't shut up because people are still sad over a tournament that the players themselves have gotten over.

joseph1013:


REALLY You seriously compare retired and semi-retired players like Shola, Utaka, Taye, Chidi and Ayila with someone playing top flight football? You compare Osaze that has not played for months because he's been blighted with injuries with someone who scores almost in every game and whose goals get nominated for goal of the week regularly?

WOW. This is serious!

BascoVanVeli:
About our defence i noticed Ambrose could actually be a top CB if he chills on the mental error. Ok i can't help myself Leon Balogun can end up being our Gerard Pique, too much hype? And why do our full backs drop back so far? I know it is for a tactical purpose but i feel our full backs can do more going forward.

icon4ss:


U call MLS competitive. U say retired and semi retired players? For ur info all d players I mentioned are still playing in Europe.The Osaze u are talking abt was even one of our best performers at d last WC jst barely over a yr ago. So if nt for injuries he still stands a better chance than Martins. Ameobi is currently in d books of Crystal Palace, John Utaka plays in French League2, Taye Taiwo plays in d Ukrainian top división, Ayila is some where in Eastern Europe I dnt know d where abt of Odiah since after he left CSKA.

The MLS is not even as competitive as d lower leagues in say France or Russia nt to talk of lower leagues in England, Spain and Germany . Martins in his current form cannot compete with young platers like: Isaac Success and Imoh Ezekiel even though they are less experienced. Where experience counts more is in goal keeping and defence.U think if Iheanacho was a defender he would b getting all d attention he is getting at ManCity? Forward positions are for fast adventurous players.

Drogber that won d MLS player of the minth, is he still featuring for d national team? When d likes of Thiery Henry, Robert Pirez & Nicholas Anielka went to d MLS they waved good bye to d national team. Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrad are currently playing in d MLS but are they still with d 3Lions?

Immediately u leave Europe and go to d MLS jst know u are now a pensioneer.

To me Emenike should even be released nt to talk of Martins.

I have always been an advocate of the clamour for fielding of our best players. But I also believe in fielding of players based on current form and nt past glory.With the likes of Mikel, Echiejile, Ambrose, V Moses, Onazi, Musa,Emenike, Omeruo and Obaobona still in dat team there is a lot of experience already. We jst need back Aluko and Babatunde in dat midfield and with d inclusion if some U20/U23 players and Ighalo that team is good to go. So forget Martins he is now a pensioneer.

cc: Bascovanveli

joseph1013:


[b]You shoot yourself in the foot. Let me list out players in MLS still playing for their national teams:

- Andrea Pirlo (Italy)
- Kaka (Brazil) He is still being called up.
- Giovani dos Santos (Mexico)
- Clint Dempsey (USA)
- Brad Evans (USA)
- Sebastian Giovinco (Italy)
- Kevin Doyle (Ireland)
- Harrison Afful (Ghana)
- Fabian Castillo (Columbia)
- Laurent Ciman (Belgium)

You see the box you put yourself into when you generalize?

I don't get where you get the theory that as soon as you start playing in the MLS, you should no longer be called up into the National team regardless of your performances. There are many players playing in Spain, England and Italy that are not called up into their National teams, should we say that's because these leagues are not competitive?

And please, where did you get your FACT that the MLS is not as competitive as the lower leagues in England? While this is not true, I will still like to see your source. MLS is not competitive yet its players beat Bayern Munich last year. Top MLS teams will compete favourably with teams like Swansea, West Brom, and Watford. Do you even watch preseason matches between teams from the two leagues?[/b]

lexyman:


Hahaha ... But I don't know why people had refused to let go ....Martins is now a pensioner , he should enjoy his days in MLS . We don't really need him like the way people are clamoring .

icon4ss:


U call MLS competitive. U say retired and semi retired players? For ur info all d players I mentioned are still playing in Europe.The Osaze u are talking abt was even one of our best performers at d last WC jst barely over a yr ago. So if nt for injuries he still stands a better chance than Martins. Ameobi is currently in d books of Crystal Palace, John Utaka plays in French League2, Taye Taiwo plays in d Ukrainian top división, Ayila is some where in Eastern Europe I dnt know d where abt of Odiah since after he left CSKA.

The MLS is not even as competitive as d lower leagues in say France or Russia nt to talk of lower leagues in England, Spain and Germany . Martins in his current form cannot compete with young platers like: Isaac Success and Imoh Ezekiel even though they are less experienced. Where experience counts more is in goal keeping and defence.U think if Iheanacho was a defender he would b getting all d attention he is getting at ManCity? Forward positions are for fast adventurous players.

Drogber that won d MLS player of the minth, is he still featuring for d national team? When d likes of Thiery Henry, Robert Pirez & Nicholas Anielka went to d MLS they waved good bye to d national team. Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrad are currently playing in d MLS but are they still with d 3Lions?

Immediately u leave Europe and go to d MLS jst know u are now a pensioneer.

To me Emenike should even be released nt to talk of Martins.

I have always been an advocate of the clamour for fielding of our best players. But I also believe in fielding of players based on current form and nt past glory.With the likes of Mikel, Echiejile, Ambrose, V Moses, Onazi, Musa,Emenike, Omeruo and Obaobona still in dat team there is a lot of experience already. We jst need back Aluko and Babatunde in dat midfield and with d inclusion if some U20/U23 players and Ighalo that team is good to go. So forget Martins he is now a pensioneer.

cc: Bascovanveli

lexyman:


Joseph , most of these players u mentioned are fast aging and if they refuse to leave football , football will leave them ....also u shouldn't have mentioned the 2 USA players cos they re playing in their local league . Everyone of us knows that the MLS is a place for the " about to be retired " . Let me give u one reason why players go to the MLS . Americans want their league to develop fast and gain popularity becos of the big names that is coming to d MLS so that the up coming players can garner experience from them , they re getting to that height now cos the rate of development is so high same thing with popularity , in every news now u read or hear something about them .the MLS , the Chinese league and Japanese league fall in the same category .... But the japan league Payless money to the retiree .

joseph1013:


You are shifting the argument. That was the bone of contention. The bone of contention is why a player that is playing well is not invited to the national team eve when he has made himself available. He mentioned Drogba, and I mention Pirlo. It'd be cool to know that Drogba is no longer invited because he quit the Ivorian team, not because he is playing in MLS.

The point is, if a player is playing well and has something to give, invite him. What does age have to do with it? Is the Super Eagles an U23 team?

lexyman:


But Martins has been given the opportunity during Keshi's time he failed , but let's see if Oliseh will give him same opportunity , he has not been consistent for the super eagles .

lexyman:
@ Joseph .Are u saying martins will do the magic when he's been called upon ? the same way u guys clamor for Ike Uche , u mounted the pressure for Keshi to invite him he was invited and nothing concrete to show for it , martins is aging fast and Oliseh doesn't want to use and dump , base on his philosophy , "building a team for the future " forget it! Martins belong to d past . Don't forget Yakubu was also banging goeals for the Chinese lease consistently when he joined them . Why can't u just stick to d young blood philosophy that everybody wanted . In this aspect our voice should speak for us . We want young blood in d super eagles not the rookies .

joseph1013:


[b]That's not a very sound argument. You cannot be 100% sure of anybody you're inviting to the National team. Even Iheanacho that I am such a big fan of. You call a player up based on his club performances and hope he performs for his country. That's what Coaches do all over the world.

How is Martins aging fast? Are you a member of his family? Do his games you watch show that he is aging fast? Has his level dropped?

Since you are building for the future, why not just stick to U23 players? No need for Emenike or Mikel or even Carl. And stop comparing apples and oranges, Chinese and MLS are not synonymous.

Also, speak for yourself, don't say EVERYBODY wants something when you have not done the survey. There are many people clamouring for Martins to be invited. Christian Chukwu and Tunde Disu are popular coaches who have being in the news making valid arguments as to why Martins should be considered. Solace Chukwu and Jide Alaka are popular sports journalists that still think Martins' performances in the MLS justify a National call up.

Lastly, Obafemi Martins is not a rookie. Saying he is a rookie must be a big joke.[/b]