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What Was The Relationship Between David And Jonathan? by 1goodman: 12:20am On Oct 18, 2014 |
Question: "What was the relationship between David and Jonathan?" Answer: We know from 1 Samuel 18:1 that Jonathan loved David. Second Samuel 1:26 records David’s lament after Jonathan’s death, in which he said that his love for Jonathan was more wonderful than the love of a woman. Some use these two passages to suggest a homosexual relationship between David and Jonathan. This interpretation, however, should be rejected for at least three reasons. First, the Hebrew word for “love” used here is not the typical word used for sexual activity. This word for “love” has clear political and diplomatic connotations (see 1 Samuel 16:21 and 1 Kings 5:1 ). Second, David’s comparison of his relationship with Jonathan with that of women is probably a reference to his experience with King Saul’s daughter. He was promised one of Saul’s daughters for killing Goliath. But Saul continued to add conditions upon this marriage with the underlying desire to have David killed in battle (1 Samuel 18:17 , 25 ). The love David had received from Jonathan was greater than anything he could have received from Saul’s daughter. Third, the Bible clearly and consistently denounces homosexuality ( Genesis 1:26-27 ; Leviticus 18:22 ; 20:13 ; Romans 1:18-25 ). Extolling a homosexual love between David and Jonathan would be contradicting the prohibitions of it found throughout the Bible. The friendship between David and Jonathan was a covenantal relationship. In 1 Samuel 18:1-5 , we read of David and Jonathan forming an agreement. In this agreement, Jonathan was to be second in command in David’s future reign, and David was to protect Jonathan’s family ( 1 Samuel 20:16-17 , 42 ; 23:16-18 ). Obviously, these two men were also very good friends. In their relationship we can see at least three qualities of true friendship. First, they sacrificed for one another. In 1 Samuel 18:4 , we read that Jonathan gave David his clothes and military garb. The significance of this gift was that Jonathan recognized that David would one day be king of Israel. Rather than being envious or jealous, Jonathan submitted to God’s will and sacrificed his own right to the throne. Second, in 1 Samuel 19:1-3 , we read of Jonathan’s loyalty toward and defense of David. King Saul told his followers to kill David. Jonathan rebuked his father and recalled David’s faithfulness to him in killing Goliath. Finally, Jonathan and David were also free to express their emotions with one another. In 1 Samuel 20 , we read of a plan concocted by Jonathan to reveal his father’s plans toward David. Jonathan was going to practice his archery. If he told his servant that the arrows he shot were to the side of the target, David was safe. If Jonathan told his servant that the arrows were beyond the target, David was to leave and not return. Jonathan told the servant that the arrows were beyond the target, meaning that David should flee. After releasing his servant, Jonathan found David and the two men cried together. Rather than being evidence for a homosexual relationship in the Bible, the account of David and Jonathan is an example of true biblical friendship. True friendship, according to the Bible, involves loyalty, sacrifice, compromise, and yes, emotional attachment. That is what we should learn from David and Jonathan. The idea that the only person in the Bible described as “a man after God’s own heart” (Acts 13:22 ), was a practicing homosexual (or bisexual) is ridiculous and has no true biblical basis. source: http://www.gotquestions.org/David-and-Jonathan.html |
Re: What Was The Relationship Between David And Jonathan? by bauer00: 10:43pm On Oct 24, 2014 |
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Re: What Was The Relationship Between David And Jonathan? by scosco1: 6:19pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
1goodman: David and jonathan we're involved in a strange relationship that was disgusting. The Bible is not gonna hide facts it says it as it is . These we're vulnerable men. David more especially typified the extremes of both human aπϑ divine potential. I know the thought of him(david) being in such an act might seem horrible τ̲̅ȍ you aπϑ come τ̲̅ȍ think of the role he played ....but that is G-d for Ў☺y . H-s ways aren't ours . HE looks beyond our frailties . I know it sounds repulsive but hey ...these guys we're into something abominable ! - aftr killing Goliath, david went τ̲̅ȍ King saul for ceremoy aπϑ there he saul's son Jonathan. Taken the scripture literally it was L♥√ǝ̥̥ at frst sight ( 1 sam 18:1 also. Gen 2:24 ) the hebrwe word "love" - "ahab" conotes familial L♥√ǝ̥̥ aπϑ sexual L♥√ǝ̥̥ dependin on context . Their relationhip angerd Jonatham's father King saul. He reacted by quietly arrangin for david τ̲̅ȍ marry his daughter ( jonathans sister ) Saul knew about their relationship aπϑ was trying τ̲̅ȍ intervene ( 1 sam 18:17 ) Here their gay relationship became undeniable - ( 1 sam 20:24-30 aπϑ 1 sam 20:40-42 )...after kissing his lover goodbye aπϑ restating their undying L♥√ǝ̥̥ aπϑ devotion - 1 sam 23:16-18 The exit of Jonathan from davids life gave him a chance τ̲̅ȍ rebuil his relationship with G-d . Its just too clear , that jonathana was davids true L♥√ǝ̥̥ aπϑ soulmate . 2 sam 1:26 . |
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