when we see a camera, a radio,or a computer,we readily acknowledge that it must have been produced by an intelligent designer.Would it be reasonable,then,to say that far more complex things,the eye,the ear,and the brain-did not originate with an intelligent Designer? let us be logical and open minded.

DoctorAshley:
when we see a camera, a radio,or a computer,we readily acknowledge that it must have been produced by an intelligent designer.Would it be reasonable,then,to say that far more complex things,the eye,the ear,and the brain-did not originate with an intelligent Designer? let us be logical and open minded.

For centuries there has been an aguement btw creationist and evolutionist...........either way we all aknowledge Man has to have come from somwhere..........For the main time creationist( God ) are winning but are loosing on other fronts like discovery of many solar system, galaxies, planets, suns and things even the bible and Quran forgot to mention......People argue that Bible and Quran were writn from Man's perspective and that there is no way he could have known about the existance of such things at that time,,,,if this books were writn under the inspiration of God, then God should have mention them to man,,, buh mayb he forgot........like when God forgot to tell us how Adam and even populated the earth,,the children of Adam and eve where dey having sex with each other or were they having sex with there morther?......
Anytin beyong the explanation of man is referd to has heavenly or accredited to God.......when Galilio first profesed that the Sun was the center of the Universe, The Catholic church had him killed for blasphemy......Slowly man is begining to understand certain things that were previously beyond the explanation of man,,,,,like a man can seem dead for several days, even weeks and eventualy wake up......this in medicine is called coma
When man eventually finds other life forms in other planets and when man eventualy creats the first functional human being.......The question is would you still believe in God?

Please lets keep an open mind and not refer to insults......comment appropriately,,,,Nobody here is either going to become religious or atheist because u proved ur arguemment......Argue maturly,,,,thank you

Nice points podosci, Unlike creationists science isn't claiming they know everything.

Lovely post bro

Idrismusty97:
Nice points podosci, Unlike creationists science isn't claiming they know everything.

Science make sure it has physical or empirical evidence and has undergone research for anytin it professes..........unlike religion,,,,,i was having a logical arguement once with someone and when he realized he was loosing,,,he started changing to topic to hell and heaven

podosci:

Science make sure it has physical or empirical evidence and has undergone research for anytin it professes..........unlike religion,,,,,i was having a logical arguement once with someone and when he realized he was loosing,,,he started changing to topic to hell and heaven

Exactly! "Melissa guild to arguing" perfectly explained such people. Apart from changing the topic to Heaven/Hell they have many other routes. See the picture .

podosci:
Please lets keep an open mind and not refer to insults......comment appropriately,,,,Nobody here is either going to become religious or atheist because u proved ur arguemment......Argue maturly,,,,thank you

pink unicorn, spaghetti monster,
myth , etc - who throws the insults? Atheist or theists?

asalimpo:


pink unicorn, spaghetti monster,
myth , etc - who throws the insults? Atheist or theists?

How is that an insult? The first thing you people ask an atheist/Agnostic is "How did the world came about?". Their response would be "A giant spaghetti monster created it". Just because you can't disprove the existence of a giant spaghetti monster doesn't means it exist. They are just explaining your "Creationist theory" with humor.

Idrismusty97:
How is that an insult? The first thing you people ask an atheist/Agnostic is "How did the world came about?". Their response would be "A giant spaghetti monster created it". Just because you can't prove that a giant spaghetti monster exist doesn't means it exist. They are just explaining your "Creationist theory" with humor.

It's called sarcasm or parody.

asalimpo:


pink unicorn, spaghetti monster,
myth , etc - who throws the insults? Atheist or theists?

We all cannot be held accountable for the sins of others....Have i insulted you b4? No,, have you insulted me b4? No.....lets start a new chapter in our arguements

Nobody has answered my question?
First how was the world populated since Adam and even where the first creations,,,Did there children have sex with each other?, did the children have sex with there mother?
Second If man eventually creats a a genuine functional human,,throw cloning or wateva means posiible and if man finds other life forms on other plantes, Would you still believe in God?

podosci:
Nobody has answered my question?
First how was the world populated since Adam and even where the first creations,,,Did there children have sex with each other?, did the children have sex with there mother?
Second If man eventually creats a a genuine functional human,,throw cloning or wateva means posiible and if man finds other life forms on other plantes, Would you still believe in God?

yes I will still believe in God,

no one knows how the entire universe came to be, all the stories so far are lies,

I align my self to the fact that God almighty created it, but how He did it, I don't know

DoctorAshley:
when we see a camera, a radio,or a computer,we readily acknowledge that it must have been produced by an intelligent designer.Would it be reasonable,then,to say that far more complex things,the eye,the ear,and the brain-did not originate with an intelligent Designer? let us be logical and open minded.

answer = it will not be reasonable...... logical conclusion

urheme:


yes I will still believe in God,

no one knows how the entire universe came to be, all the stories so far are lies,

I align my self to the fact that God almighty created it, but how He did it, I don't know

God said he created the earth in seven days........wt about mars, mercury, the counless galaxies bring discovered everyday?.....who and how long did he take to create them.....and why were dis not mention in the Bible or Quran?
One only answered one part?....what about ma question on Adam and eve,,,how did dey populate the earth

podosci:

God said he created the earth in seven days........wt about mars, mercury, the counless galaxies bring discovered everyday?.....who and how long did he take to create them.....and why were dis not mention in the Bible or Quran?
One only answered one part?....what about ma question on Adam and eve,,,how did dey populate the earth

What even makes it more interesting is that they have three sons(At least the Bible said so). And even if they have daughters that means they populated the earth by "incest"(Imagine how much incest is required to populate the whole earth from just a parent )...And these are lots of Bible verses kicking against incest http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Incest/(Change the "inbreeding" at the end of the link to "īncest" so you can open the link,Nairaland censored it) Oh! lets not forget after Cain killed Abel he was banished to the East of Eden, he have a wife and gave birth to Enoch(Where did that wife came from?)…lol funny book.

*Then Cain went out from the presence of the
LORD, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
( Genesis 4:16 )

*Cain had relations with his wife and she
conceived, and gave birth to Enoch; and he built a
city, and called the name of the city Enoch, after
the name of his son. ( Genesis 4:17 )

Oh! Again, lets not forget god created light on the 1st day and then created the Sun on the 4th day .

Modified: Why did Nairaland even censored the word "ïncest" to "inbreeding"? The link i gave above will not even work, just changed that "inbreeding" on the link to "ïncest" to see all the numerous verses kicking against ïncest.

podosci:

God said he created the earth in seven days........wt about mars, mercury, the counless galaxies bring discovered everyday?.....who and how long did he take to create them.....and why were dis not mention in the Bible or Quran?
One only answered one part?....what about ma question on Adam and eve,,,how did dey populate the earth

I don't believe in the holy books stories, religion in its entirety is a pit of delusion.

the story of adam and eve in the holy books is also not credible and if you ask me I will say:

there was no adam and eve
there was no garden
there was no tree
there was no satan
there was no discussion between God and man
the whole scenario was painted by man to deceive men.

religion cannot be a way to God

qstar a fellow nairalander on this thread once said he had a dream or vision where God created many people of different race: black, arabs, Chinese etc .
his version of creation looks more credible to me.

I hope I did answered your question.

Idrismusty97:
What even makes it more interesting is that they have three sons(At least the Bible said so). And even if they have daughters that means they populated the earth be "incest"(Imagine how much incest is required to populate the whole earth from just a parent )...And these are lots of Bible verses kicking against incest http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Incest/ Oh! lets not forget after Cain killed Abel he was banished to the East of Eden, he have a wife and gave birth to Enoch(Where did that wife came from?)…lol funny book.

Very funny book.....This should be children bed time stories,,,,,When u grow up and start asking valid question, somebody would say you need the holy spirit to understand

DoctorAshley:
when we see a camera, a radio,or a computer,we readily acknowledge that it must have been produced by an intelligent designer.Would it be reasonable,then,to say that far more complex things,the eye,the ear,and the brain-did not originate with an intelligent Designer? let us be logical and open minded.

if they must have been created by an intelligent designer then we can also concludes that that intelligent designer must have been created, hence we continue in indefinite loop.

who created human = God
who created God = higher God
who created higher God = some powerful God


my question is who created God?

podosci:

Very funny book.....This should be children bed time stories,,,,,When u grow up and start asking valid question, somebody would say you need the holy spirit to understand

like when some brown skin nigro try to build a tall building to the sky in other to meet God.
..this was 2000 years ago when man has not master the use of reinforced concrete, high yield steel and advancement in construction techniques. ...

some south eas asians are building house as high as 1km into the sky...where is the God to stop the construction. ... wait a minute, several space programs, communications satellites etc, or may be, God decided to move to outer space when he couldn't cope with advanced men.


I have all the reason to believe that God must be some kind of alien from outer space...Living a galaxy millions of light years ahead of ours

urheme:


I don't believe in the holy books stories, religion in its entirety is a pit of delusion.

the story of adam and eve in the holy books is also not credible and if you ask me I will say:

there was no adam and eve
there was no garden
there was no tree
there was no satan
there was no discussion between God and man
the whole scenario was painted by man to deceive men.

religion cannot be a way to God

qstar a fellow nairalander on this thread once said he had a dream or vision where God created many people of different race: black, arabs, Chinese etc .
his version of creation looks more credible to me.

I hope I did answered your question.

Hey Ma'am! You are confusing me with somebody else. WTF??

I ain't got no dreams or vision about God.

qstar:


Hey Ma'am! You are confusing with somebody else. WTF??

I ain't got no dreams or vision about God.

Not witstanding, you are welcome to the thread,

Perhaps somebody used your monikas before the invasion on the forum which resulted into data loss

urheme:





Not witstanding, you are welcome to the thread,

Perhaps somebody used your monikas before the invasion on the forum which resulted into data loss

Ok.

About the OP. Man created all the myths and tales of god and creation. You can create yours and when if you've got the armoury, enforce it on others and viola! Your religion dominates.

qstar:


Ok.

About the OP. Man created all the myths and tales of god and creation. You can create yours and when if you've got the armoury, enforce it on others and voila! Your religion dominates.

qstar:


Ok.

About the OP. Man created all the myths and tales of god and creation. You can create yours and when if you've got the armoury, enforce it on others and voila! Your religion dominates.

Perhaps you can creat one and i will be your disciple.

urheme:




Perhaps you can create one and i will be your disciple.

Lol.. We'll make sure that our names are encrypted as the first man and woman on earth, with our lovely kids.

3000yrs from now, our religion would have overtaken the contemporary ones.

qstar:



Lol.. We'll make sure that our names are encrypted as the first man and woman on earth, with our lovely kids.

3000yrs from now, our religion would have overtaken the contemporary ones.

Very funny,

this is very helpful in a world where one wants to deny the truth.