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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Nobody: 8:22pm On Oct 22, 2014
Ilekokonit:
culled from Hilary Clinton's memoirs - Hard choices

No country has suffered more from the resource curse than Nigeria.

Nigeria could be a G-20 member and an influential global voice if it made the hard choice to overcome the resource curse.

When I visited in 2009 and 2012, I stressed the urgency of Nigerians tackling corruption and investing revenues to improve millions of lives, not swell personal fortunes.

http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Choices-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton-ebook/dp/B00C69EP1S




Hilary, the USA and the world would be a much better place, with zero hunger, zero deprivation, zero conflict if your country did not squander trillions of dollars of the earth's resources annually on weapons of mass destruction which do nothing but kill people, make the world more dangerous and feed fat your corrupt military/industrial complex/elite. Many thanks!

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Rawani: 8:32pm On Oct 22, 2014
In other words, if we come together to vote in General Buhari, Nigeria will have the greatest chance in its history to join the envied league of the G20 nations through the decisive eradication of corruption in government and the private sector, which has seen us suffer from increased cost of business for decades and unappealing investment climate and has kept us running in circles in our quest for economic rebirth.

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by EMANY01(m): 10:11pm On Oct 22, 2014
Obiagelli:


1985 $26.92 $58.54
1986 $14.44 $30.80
1987 $17.75 $36.54
1988 $14.87 $29.45
1989 $18.33 $34.58
1990 $23.19 $41.40
1991 $20.20 $34.70
1992 $19.25 $32.09
1993 $16.75 $27.13
1994 $15.66 $24.71
1995 $16.75 $25.72
1996 $20.46 $30.50
1997 $18.64 $27.17
1998 $11.91 $17.10
1999 $16.56 $23.20
2000 $27.39 $37.19
2001 $23.00 $30.40
2002 $22.81 $29.64
2003 $27.69 $35.22
2004 $37.66 $46.60
2005 $50.04 $59.88
2006 $58.30 $67.63
2007 $64.20 $72.30
2008 $91.48 $99.06
2009 $53.48 $58.20
2010 $71.21 $76.38
2011 $87.04 $90.52
2012 $86.46 $88.11
2013 $91.17 $91.54

Good now just a few more tiny overlooked details and we get the full comparative picture.
Post the year on year comparative figures for inflation ,exchange rate,approximate population(at the time) and structure of federating units(number of states or regions whichever applied at the time) for each of those years listed.
You can't just come here and drop some lousy figures and declare that you point is made.
If you really want to convince us,you have to show that[b][size=19pt] COMPARATIVELY [/size][/b], raking cognizance of the following [size=18pt]FACTS :[/size]
I,Taking inflationary trends into account the value of a dollar(and the Naira by the way) in 1983 is worth far more than todays dollar/naira(proof ?:ask Google)
II,Exchange Rate,do i really need to explain this
III,Population:Obviously Nigeria was far less populated in 1983-20013 than it is now.Less population obviously means more resources such as they were at any given year to take care of each individual's needs.
IV,Federating Structure:Nigeria has far more states and governance structures/units today than it did between 1983-1999.To be honest we have far more parastatals/ministries than we had in 1999/2000 which means resource going to each one is more tightly contested.This means each federating unit has less that what that unit might consider as optimum for it to function.
I've had it with folks pulling figures out of that place( where the sun never shines unless they are at the beach) and claiming we all submit to their superior arguments.

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Nobody: 10:11pm On Oct 22, 2014
Rawani:
In other words, if we come together to vote in General Buhari, Nigeria will have the greatest chance in its history to join the envied league of the G20 nations through the decisive eradication of corruption in government and the private sector, which has seen us suffer from increased cost of business for decades and unappealing investment climate and has kept us running in circles in our quest for economic rebirth.
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by EMANY01(m): 4:09am On Oct 23, 2014
Rawani:


The boy has been making me laugh...keep schooling him.

Who is schooling who?
"The boy" asked a simple but very valid and very deep question and all your co-traveler could do was stutter irrelevant and unrelated trash.
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by OtunbaJega: 4:28am On Oct 23, 2014
EMANY01:


Who is schooling who?
"The boy" asked a simple but very valid and very deep question and all your co-traveler could do was stutter irrelevant and unrelated trash.

oponu ni e
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Rawani: 4:32am On Oct 23, 2014
EMANY01:

Who is schooling who?
"The boy" asked a simple but very valid and very deep question and all your co-traveler could do was stutter irrelevant and unrelated trash.

Really? Its not surprising considering what you posted after him grin. I was going to ignore but since you called:

EMANY01:

III,Population:Obviously Nigeria was far less populated in 1983-20013 than it is now.[b]Less population obviously means more resources such as they were at any given year to take care of each individual's needs.
IV,Federating Structure:Nigeria has far more states and governance structures/units today than it did between 1983-1999.To be honest we have far more parastatals/ministries than we had in 1999/2000 which means resource going to each one is more tightly contested.This means each federating unit has less that what that unit might consider as optimum for it to function.[/b]

Anyone with elementary knowledge of what GDP is in the first place, would know it is concerned with production and not consumption.

EMANY01:

FACTS:
II,Exchange Rate,do i really need to explain this

Obiagelli already enlightened you guys that GDP and oil prices are both in USD so i wonder what you are on about.

EMANY01:
I've had it with folks pulling figures out of that place( where the sun never shines unless they are at the beach) and claiming we all submit to their superior arguments.

You and the person you were trying to defend were victims of ignorant arrogance, which usually ends in this way.

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Lucasbalo(m): 5:17am On Oct 23, 2014
arresa:


They are not talking about your silly and irrelevant numbers that doesn't alter the fact your people are still poor, in darkness, lack quality healthcare, good education and all the basics

They are talking about corruption and your crooked and corrupt president's incompetence and inability to fight corruption..

They are talking about your crooked and corrupt president appointing and parading around with crooks, ex convicts, treasury looters and pardoning criminals and international fugitives...

They are talking about your crooked and corrupt president's corrupt way of life and corrupt utterances like stealing is not corruption and corruption in Nigeria is a figment of our imagination.

Well put. Nothing more to add. A country where everything that is suppose to be up is down and what is suppose to be down is up. Cesspool of unimaginable corruption and monumental mismanagement .

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by EMANY01(m): 5:55am On Oct 23, 2014
Rawani:


Really? Its not surprising considering what you posted after him grin. I was going to ignore but since you called:



Anyone with elementary knowledge of what GDP is in the first place, would know it is concerned with production and not consumption.


Obiagelli already enlightened you guys that GDP and oil prices are both in USD so i wonder what you are on about.




You and the person you were trying to defend were victims of ignorant arrogance, which usually ends in this way.




The next fable you will spin is that Nigeria was more productive in 1983.I'd like you to provide evidence of that.PLEASE SHOW THAT NIGERIA WAS MORE PRODUCTIVE IN 1983 THAN TODAY OTHERWISE YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT GDP IS BUNKUM.
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_dollars
Using the first site you would see that a million dollars ($ 1,000000) adjusted for inflationary pressure is worth about two point four million dollars ($ 2,389869.48) today a cumulative rate of inflation at
one hundred and thirty nine percent (139%).
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by edo3(m): 6:15am On Oct 23, 2014
atlwireles:
Nigeria's GDP was $83B in 1983, with all the so called civilian corruption. Two years after Buhari and his mad men took over, Nigeria's GDP dropped to $43B. In 1999 it was $36B, so, the saints from the Nigerian army starting frfom Osama bin Buhari, took our economy from a $83B in 1983 under NPN to $36B in 1999. After 15 years of PDP corruption rule, we are now $522B. I will remain with the PDP corruption rule.
How has this impacted the lives of common citizens on the street? Don't be deceived bro..
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by EMANY01(m): 6:31am On Oct 23, 2014
edo3:
How has this impacted the lives of common citizens on the street? Don't be deceived bro..

My friend,to be honest,a GDP of $522 billion for a population of 140 million is grossly inadequate.If we do not proceed to double or even triple,our GDP in a couple of years , faster than our population grows, it will always be hard to impact the lives of ordinary Nigerians.
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by blackfase(m): 9:17am On Oct 23, 2014
Well, some notable figure in nigeria said corruption isnt the biggest problem nigeria has, so how possibly could it be that one thats stopping us becoming a G20 member?.....ther certainly must be something bigger than corruption for him to say that. Im thinking of....... STEALING? :/
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Dibiachukwu: 9:45am On Oct 23, 2014
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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by psalmizt(m): 10:01am On Oct 23, 2014
Obiagelli:

You are not bright, both gdp and oil prices are in dollars, what value are talking about?

You need to account for inflation.... that is what atlwireless is referring to. $1 30 years ago is not the same as $1 today. So his point is that the value received back then was more in terms of purchasing power compared to the price of oil today.

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Jesusloveyou: 10:09am On Oct 23, 2014
chinwike2:
Who still wants to be USA's ball-boy ?
dat is why we need change of attitude and leadership,we need buhari.

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Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by EMANY01(m): 10:26am On Oct 23, 2014
psalmizt:


You need to account for inflation.... that is what atlwireless is referring to. $1 30 years ago is not the same as $1 today. So his point is that the value received back then was more in terms of purchasing power compared to the price of oil today.

Watch them act like all you did was yawn pretend you said nothing and then carry on with their jaundiced view/claims.
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by EMANY01(m): 10:27am On Oct 23, 2014
OtunbaJega:


oponu ni e

Bless you.
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Curlieweed: 12:42pm On Oct 23, 2014
atlwireles:
Nigeria's GDP was $83B in 1983, with all the so called civilian corruption. Two years after Buhari and his mad men took over, Nigeria's GDP dropped to $43B. In 1999 it was $36B, so, the saints from the Nigerian army starting frfom Osama bin Buhari, took our economy from a $83B in 1983 under NPN to $36B in 1999. After 15 years of PDP corruption rule, we are now $522B. I will remain with the PDP corruption rule.


Thanks a million for your insight.
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by chinwike2(m): 6:21am On Oct 24, 2014
Jesusloveyou:
dat is why we need change of attitude and leadership,we need buhari.
we need change but NOT buhari. CAPITAL NO !
Re: Nigeria Could Be A G-20 Member If It Tackled Corruption - Hilary Clinton by Jesusloveyou: 12:42pm On Oct 24, 2014
chinwike2:
we need change but NOT buhari. CAPITAL NO !
tell me any other candidate,that can pilot d change,then we can all support d candidate for d change all desire.

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