Why do *some tribes in Nigeria value male children over female children even when it's obvious that female children are more productive than male ones. Don't you think that culture ought to be banished and seen as barbaric by now?

u are mad

U are a witch hunter molesting children

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u are mad

why all this she ask a question if you have no answer move away.

benincitys:

why all this she ask a question if you have no answer move away.

Thank you. Stupid male ego disturbing most Nigerian male specie .

Simple: The man does not change his last name so the father knows his name will continue to exist.

The female child on the other hand gets married and starts bearing the husband's name - and this is the prayer of every parent. (who cares if they add their maiden name to thier husband's name?)

This is one of the major reasons - and I also know a lot of white men who truly want male kids, or have you ever heard of a female U.S president? well maybe almost, but not yet!


I only answered the question so please do not crucify me

DeepZone:

Why do *some tribes in Nigeria value male children over female children even when it's obvious that female children are more productive than male ones. Don't you think that culture ought to be banished and seen as barbaric by now?

the great sociologist deepzone, i greet you.

so how are female children more productive than male ones?

DeepZone:

U are a witch hunter molesting children

Rofl

from the Jewish,Mohammedan and Christian point of view,male seem to be dominant.this does not however hold in traditional africa.in igbo speaking area for example,the ada has a whole lot of respect even more than males.in some parts of igboland, there exists matrilineal societies.precisely eastern igbo in present abia state.

Abagworo:

from the Jewish,Mohammedan and Christian point of view,male seem to be dominant.this does not however hold in traditional africa.in igbo speaking area for example,the ada has a whole lot of respect even more than males.in some parts of igboland, there exists matrilineal societies.precisely eastern igbo in present abia state.

that's a generalization considering igbo age grades and age sets were male dominated. marilineal societies such as the igbo and swahili didn't practice matriachy. the eldest male in an extended family was seen as head of the clan.

Simple: The man does not change his last name so the father knows his name will continue to exist.

The female child on the other hand gets married and starts bearing the husband's name - and this is the prayer of every parent. (who cares if they add their maiden name to their husband's name?)

Many women keep their family name and refuse to change theirs to their husbands name. So that reason is kaput.

This is one of the major reasons - and I also know a lot of white men who truly want male kids, or have you ever heard of a female US president? well maybe almost, but not yet!

Who told you this BS?

from the Jewish,Mohammedan and Christian point of view,male seem to be dominant.this does not however hold in traditional africa.in igbo speaking area for example,the ada has a whole lot of respect even more than males.in some parts of igboland, there exists matrilineal societies.precisely eastern igbo in present abia state.

When did Igbos or any other tribe in Nigeria start matrilineal culture? Are you telling me that some igbos answer their mothers name instead of their fathers last names?

bawomolo:

the great sociologist deepzone, i greet you.

so how are female children more productive than male ones?

Count your teeth na. How many women are area boys/girls or almajiris in Nigeria?.  40% of males in Nigeria are on the streets compared to 2% of females.

DeepZone:

Why do *some tribes in Nigeria value male children over female children even when it's obvious that female children are more productive than male ones. Don't you think that culture ought to be banished and seen as barbaric by now?

Most races and tribes value male children above female children and in Nigeria it's probably all Nigerian ethnic groups.
Deepzone not to worry,your folks have a man and a woman rolled up in one

DeepZone:

Count your teeth na. How many women are area boys/girls or almajiris in Nigeria?.  40% of males in Nigeria are on the streets compared to 2% of females.

That's cos they are too busy in the cars of aristos.

KarmaMod:

That's because they are too busy in the cars of aristos.

hahaha classic

KarmaMod:

That's because they are too busy in the cars of aristos.

No be only car.

*osisi:

Most races and tribes value male children above female children and in Nigeria it's probably all Nigerian ethnic groups.
Deepzone not to worry,your folks have a man and a woman rolled up in one

Why? It ought to have stopped by now. Why should my parents value a dic.khead over me?

To be honest, I don't think it's about valuing males over females. I think it's about valuing males a certain way and females a certain way. It may look as if it's about valuing males more than females because valuing males is more outwardly expressed than valuing females, but I don't think it is because males are more valued than females. If anything, I'd say that overall, the females are more valued than males, but that's just me.

ChinenyeN:

To be honest, I don't think it's about valuing males over females. I think it's about valuing males a certain way and females a certain way. It may look as if it's about valuing males more than females because valuing males is more outwardly expressed than valuing females, but I don't think it is because males are more valued than females. If you were to ask me though, I'd say that overall, the females are more valued than males, but that's just me.

You don't know Nigerian and African culture then.
Do you know how many wives that've been abandoned and a new wife brought in because they only bore females?I know a few
do you know how many husbands that have impregnated random women looking for male sons? I know some
do you know how many women that have upwards of 5 daughters and keep trying just to have a son.I know several
some have died in childbirth looking for a son after being blessed with females.I know a few.

Next to being Childless/barren,bearing only female children is the next taboo in that stupid thing we call culture

*osisi:

You don't know Nigerian and African culture then.
Do you know how many wives that've been abandoned and a new wife brought in because they only bore females?I know a few
do you know how many husbands that have impregnated random women looking for male sons? I know some
do you know how many women that have upwards of 5 daughters and keep trying just to have a son.I know several
some have died in childbirth looking for a son after being blessed with females.I know a few.

Next to being Childless/barren,bearing only female children is the next taboo in that stupid thing we call culture

Who is to blame here? The men or the women?. I think the women are to blame because if they did not give men the allowance to do this shit, they will stop trying it. Women need to stand up and say no to foolish practices like this. The sex of a child is determined by the man and not the woman and if somebody should be leaving, it should be the man that should be kicked to the curb.

Well, I don't know what to say other than what I truly know. Even with everything you just said osisi, if I really look at it, it only seems that males are valued a certain way and for certain reasons, not that they are more valuable than females. The most likely reason being lineage. That's usually the main purpose for wanting to give birth to a son. That doesn't make males more valuable than females. Then again, I'm only saying what I'm familiar with, and I'm really only familiar with Igbo culture.

And I'm really only familiar with Igbo culture.

I believe osisi is as well

I don't doubt that, KarmaMod.

ikeyman na u d mad let me ask u guys if all children born are boys na dogs femal they will married not same girl u dont accept .u all crazy

ikeyman na u d mad let me ask u guys if all children born are boys na dogs femal they will married not same girl u dont accept .u all crazy

Deepzone are u leasten to ourself u will blamed the woman because she is GOD to give u what u want(son) isn't u are go and look for it cheating u got a son u go sun

khai  menini 

DeepZone:

Who is to blame here? The men or the women?. I think the women are to blame because if they did not give men the allowance to do this shit, they will stop trying it. Women need to stand up and say no to foolish practices like this. The sex of a child is determined by the man and not the woman and if somebody should be leaving, it should be the man that should be kicked to the curb.

Not entirely true. 

The sex determining chromosome pair is XY for male and XX for female. During meiosis (production of f sex gametes -sperm cells and ova), the chromosome is split into two. The ova always carries  an X chromosome (from XX) while the sperm is X or Y in 50:50 ratio (since each original cell has an XY that splits into a X and a Y). A sperm and an ovum will later combine to form the new baby. Hence, theoretically, the man determines the sex of the baby and the chance of having a boy or a girl is 50:50.

Unfortunately the process of combination is not necessarily equitable, as several factors affect which of the sperm gets to be lucky. The Y chromosome bearing sperm (which would result in a boy) is thought to be more fragile when compared to the X counterpart and hence dies more easily. So the time in the woman's monthly cycle that sex happens could affect the sex of the child, as also the amount of time that the sperm spends waiting in the testicles. Also certain women are thought to secrete hormones that are harmful to one sex of sperm hereby tilting the table in favor of the other i.e. you could have a woman who is unaccommodating to Y bearing sperms.

All this being said, only a single sperm is needed to form a baby, and thus while the odds might be stacked against a particular gender, it does not bar the unlikely from occurring.

i believe the igbo culture values both genders. we value men because the are so important in the society for strength, protection, family name etc. hence the names ikenna, ahanna, obinna etc, were manufactured by our ancestors

also we value females so much for their productivity, family upbringing, beauty, softness, and of course strength too. that is why our ancestors manufactured the name nneka _{. . you cant beat that name inour culture} , adaobi, adanna, ezinne etc. and we value women so much that we dont want them to suffer, hence our forefathers manufactured the name obiageli, adaure etc

we value both genders, we even created names that can be used for both genders such as uche, nkem etc . if an igbo man has 4 kids, all boys, most likely he'll wish for a girl, and vice versa

names mean a lot in igbo culture _{never mind my user name} . my grandpa used to teach me a lot of those when i was much younger. he used to give me books by chinua achebe to read and understand the igbo society better