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Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 1:43pm On Nov 02, 2014
Can anybody show or proof to us how Jesus feed the multitude of around 5000 people with 2 fishes and 5 loaves of bread?
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Goshen360(m): 1:48pm On Nov 02, 2014
Yes, he did. He did by the ACT OF MIRACLE. Miracles are supernatural occurrence that transcend across natural. The Jews will not believe he is the awaiting messiah except by miracles. That's the proof!!!
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by bigFOOTcaveMAN(m): 1:50pm On Nov 02, 2014
I should show you how You mean you really need pinshures of jesus feeding 5000 pipo 2000yrs ago Hmmm!

Well here is what i could find tongue

Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 2:07pm On Nov 02, 2014
i do not see any difference between magic and miracle, miracle probably comes from the word mirage (something that appears to be and infact its not). magic and mirage is a lie. If Jesus had to do miracle for the jews to believe, then infact all the jews wanted was just wants and pleasure, thus inthe kingdom of GOD, that is what they would only pursue "wants and pleasure" through miracle, GOD does not have time to waste.

Goshen360:
Yes, he did. He did by the ACT OF MIRACLE. Miracles are supernatural occurrence that transcend across natural. The Jews will not believe he is the awaiting messiah except by miracles. That's the proof!!!
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 2:08pm On Nov 02, 2014
are you serious?
bigFOOTcaveMAN:
I should show you how You mean you really need pinshures of jesus feeding 5000 pipo 2000yrs ago Hmmm!

Well here is what i could find tongue
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:11pm On Nov 02, 2014
Yes he did. He also inseminated 756 virgins that same night in a tent in Galilee.

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Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 2:19pm On Nov 02, 2014
this is a shocker, can you show me where it is in the bible or quran or can you give details?
AlfaSeltzer:
Yes he did. He also inseminated 756 virgins that same night in a tent in Galilee.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 2:27pm On Nov 02, 2014
gatiano:
this is a shocker, can you show me where it is in the bible or quran or can you give details?

John 21:25

25 Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

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Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Goshen360(m): 2:35pm On Nov 02, 2014
gatiano:
i do not see any difference between magic and miracle, miracle probably comes from the word mirage (something that appears to be and infact its not). magic and mirage is a lie. If Jesus had to do miracle for the jews to believe, then infact all the jews wanted was just wants and pleasure, thus inthe kingdom of GOD, that is what they would only pursue "wants and pleasure" through miracle, GOD does not have time to waste.


That's how the Jews was then but blessed are those who believe without miracles.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 2:45pm On Nov 02, 2014
and inseminating 756 virgin in the tent of galilee was one of them? freemasonry? and was it by miracle or marriage? you know i had to go look the meaning of insemination? was this from the thalmud?
AlfaSeltzer:


John 21:25

25 Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 2:46pm On Nov 02, 2014
two fishes and five loaves does not mean food, it is a parable of the future back then that is happening now.
Goshen360:


That's how the Jews was then but blessed are those who believe without miracles.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Goshen360(m): 2:49pm On Nov 02, 2014
gatiano:
two fishes and five loaves does not mean food, it is a parable of the future back then that is happening now.

If it was a parable, the writer in scriptures would have said so. Stop adding to the written word. It's dangerous! !!

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Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 3:16pm On Nov 02, 2014
no it is not dangerous! our brains were put up in us so that we might observe, analyse , investigate amongst many other things. in John 6:14 and in Mark 6:14 are of different meaning but with the same two fishes and five loaves.
Goshen360:


If it was a parable, the writer in scriptures would have said so. Stop adding to the written word. It's dangerous! !!
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Pr0ton: 3:29pm On Nov 02, 2014
gatiano:
no it is not dangerous! our brains were put up in us so that we might observe, analyse , investigate amongst many other things. in John 6:14 and in Mark 6:14 are of different meaning but with the same two fishes and five loaves.

Parable Are you high on something

The Gospels record 12 baskets that remained...


Jesus Himself rebuked those folks He fed saying, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled." John 6:26

They ate parables, right?
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by plaetton: 4:01pm On Nov 02, 2014
Good question.

Jesus was a member of the Essene therapeutate.
The Essenes had a code through which they communicated to one another. Before commencing his teachings, Jesus would normally say " to those who have ears let them hear" . This was a way of alerting his brethren to hidden codes of his sermons.

Jesus supposedly lived during the age of Pisces, the fish.
So the Essenes, as well as other esoteric/ religious groups adopted the Fish as their most sacred symbol. The fish symbolised life , knowledge and wisdom.
It is no surprise that the disciples of Jesus were Fish-ermen.

In Essene nomenclature, to give someone fish meant to offer the person knowledge and wisdom for life.

Therefore, that Jesus fed the multitude with fish and loaves makes perfect sense.

What is that the more you give it the more it multiplies?
Take a guess.
It is life, love and knowledge.
This is what Jesus fed to the multitude. It is the gift that keeps on multiplying.
The loaf stands for life, sustenance. The fish stands for knowledge.

This is what ever teacher does: feed multitudes with the fish that keeps multiplying.

Of course, the little minded amongst us would not accept this simple truth.
Naaa.
Miracle sounds better for their little minds.

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Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 4:32pm On Nov 02, 2014
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.



maybe parable is the wrong word, then better prophesy. can we say now that Jesus is the son of man? as Jesus referred to a third person pronoun "Him" The Son of Man. This Son of Man is the Son of GOD, and this GOD is a Man, which means He is a physical man of existence like me and you. The Son is also a Man, GOD. this MAN will give us the 2 fishes and the 5 loaves.

The 2 fishes are
The Bible
The Quran
The five loaves of bread (books) will make you enjoy the 2 fishes and it is very delicious, it calms the soul, it refreshes the spirit , it elevates to uprightness, it even helps the devil to be bornagain, it causes fearlessness, it brightens up the brains, The bible and the quran will be something that you would read constantly and you would understand it fully, where it is the truth and where it had been changed to deceive.

Any religion that does not find congruency with sciences and mathematics and is not rooted in the universal order of things is a "religion" that can be considered as the opiate of the masses.

Religion or Theology is the study of GOD. and it is very important for every soul to know it precisely. For there is nothing in this life that is without GOD, nothing. on every subject or object you can point to, even the computers we are chatting with has the properties of GOD in it. the computer is made from resources that GOD created himself.

you are not a righteous christian if you don't have a quran, and you are not an upright muslim if you do not have the bible. one book is a witness and testifier with the other.

the five loaves are coming shortly on this very discussion.



Pr0ton:


Parable Are you high on something

The Gospels record 12 baskets that remained...


Jesus Himself rebuked those folks He fed saying, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled." John 6:26

They ate parables, right?
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 4:34pm On Nov 02, 2014
lovely! may i classify you as an awoken or ressurected mind? please teach others, it is a duty, not a job.
plaetton:
Good question.

Jesus was a member of the Essene therapeutate.
The Essenes had a code through which they communicated to one another. Before commencing his teachings, Jesus would normally say " to those who have ears let them hear" . This was a way of alerting his brethren to hidden codes of his sermons.

Jesus supposedly lived during the age of Pisces, the fish.
So the Essenes, as well as other esoteric/ religious groups adopted the Fish as their most sacred symbol. The fish symbolised life , knowledge and wisdom.
It is no surprise that the disciples of Jesus were Fish-ermen.

In Essene nomenclature, to give someone fish meant to offer the person knowledge and wisdom for life.

Therefore, that Jesus fed the multitude with fish and loaves makes perfect sense.

What is that the more you give it the more it multiplies?
Take a guess.
It is life, love and knowledge.
This is what Jesus fed to the multitude. It is the gift that keeps on multiplying.
The loaf stands for life, sustenance. The fish stands for knowledge.

This is what ever teacher does: feed multitudes with the fish that keeps multiplying.

Of course, the little minded amongst us would not accept this simple truth.
Naaa.
Miracle sounds better for their little minds.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Drilla(m): 5:17pm On Nov 02, 2014
Lol...this poster get problem o

@topic,yes he did...it was actually 2 blue whales
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Pr0ton: 5:24pm On Nov 02, 2014
gatiano:
lovely! may i classify you as an awoken or ressurected mind? please teach others, it is a duty, not a job.

shocked shocked Most weird Muslim/Christian I've ever encountered.

Well then!



You should as well explain what the 12 baskets symbolize.



If the fishes and loaves were knowledge and life why, then, did Jesus advise them to "labour for the meat which endureth to everlasting life" These were people who "ate of the loaves, and were filled" They were filled with life (the loaves and fishes), right, then why advise them to labour for life which they already had?

"...which the Son of man shall give you..." shows plainly that they were yet to receive life because they had not gotten life then! Therefore the loaves and fishes were literal, not life.

It doesn't work for 5,000 people since Jesus says, "many are called, but few are chosen"... "Narrow is the way, and few are those that pass therein"
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Boss13: 5:35pm On Nov 02, 2014
plaetton:
Good question.

Jesus was a member of the Essene therapeutate.
The Essenes had a code through which they communicated to one another. Before commencing his teachings, Jesus would normally say " to those who have ears let them hear" . This was a way of alerting his brethren to hidden codes of his sermons.

Jesus supposedly lived during the age of Pisces, the fish.
So the Essenes, as well as other esoteric/ religious groups adopted the Fish as their most sacred symbol. The fish symbolised life , knowledge and wisdom.
It is no surprise that the disciples of Jesus were Fish-ermen.

In Essene nomenclature, to give someone fish meant to offer the person knowledge and wisdom for life.

Therefore, that Jesus fed the multitude with fish and loaves makes perfect sense.

What is that the more you give it the more it multiplies?
Take a guess.
It is life, love and knowledge.
This is what Jesus fed to the multitude. It is the gift that keeps on multiplying.
The loaf stands for life, sustenance. The fish stands for knowledge.

This is what ever teacher does: feed multitudes with the fish that keeps multiplying.

Of course, the little minded amongst us would not accept this simple truth.
Naaa.
Miracle sounds better for their little minds.

This was not revealed to you in flesh. A lot of people do not know that Jesus was a mystic and he belonged to a mystic group.

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Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 5:37pm On Nov 02, 2014
what about the loaves? 5 large wheat farmland?
Drilla:
Lol...this poster get problem o

@topic,yes he did...it was actually 2 blue whales
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Rilwayne001: 5:46pm On Nov 02, 2014
Goshen360:
Yes, he did. He did by the ACT OF MIRACLE. Miracles are supernatural occurrence that transcend across natural. The Jews will not believe he is the awaiting messiah except by miracles. That's the proof!!!

Brother, please can you do it as well.?

Don't forget Jesus said if you have faith you will do more than what he has done..
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 5:53pm On Nov 02, 2014
there are three stages of life
First stage - plant life or fish life, we all evolve from this stage of life regardless. we were was planted to our mums, and in that worm, it is filled with water.

Second stage - reptile life or animal life, most of us never pass this stage in our lifetime, thus we and you can see what is happening in the world today, trouble everywhere, destroying lives and properties, killing and wars, this are animals' nature, like the snake in the garden of eden "a reptile" it reality, it meant man or a people. and adam and eve fell from being a "MAN" (the third stage) to being an animal.

Third stage - Man. uprightness and righteousness, submission to the will of ALLAH/GOD, strong, truthful, diligent, very intelligent, man of peace and grace, builders of righteous civilization, creators of planets and world. is anybody like this today? Yes there are, not me and you yet if we are willing, if not we will never be. in the state, there is everlasting life. No man can live forever, not even GOD.

MEN ARE MORTAL GODS, AND GODS ARE IMMORTAL MEN.

THE LOAVES AND FISHES MEANS WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD MAKE YOU/ME/US UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH WHICH WILL SET US FREE.
Pr0ton:


shocked shocked Most weird Muslim/Christian I've ever encountered.

Well then!



You should as well explain what the 12 baskets symbolize.



If the fishes and loaves were knowledge and life why, then, did Jesus advise them to "labour for the meat which endureth to everlasting life" These were people who "ate of the loaves, and were filled" They were filled with life (the loaves and fishes), right, then why advise them to labour for life which they already had?

"...which the Son of man shall give you..." shows plainly that they were yet to receive life because they had not gotten life then! Therefore the loaves and fishes were literal, not life.

It doesn't work for 5,000 people since Jesus says, "many are called, but few are chosen"... "Narrow is the way, and few are those that pass therein"
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by plaetton: 6:06pm On Nov 02, 2014
Pr0ton:


If the fishes and loaves were knowledge and life why, then, did Jesus advise them to "labour for the meat which endureth to everlasting life" These were people who "ate of the loaves, and were filled" They were filled with life (the loaves and fishes), right, then why advise them to labour for life which they already had?

"...which the Son of man shall give you..." shows plainly that they were yet to receive life because they had not gotten life then! Therefore the loaves and fishes were literal, not life.

It doesn't work for 5,000 people since Jesus says, "many are called, but few are chosen"... "Narrow is the way, and few are those that pass therein"

The answer is there in front of you.
Labour for the meat that endureth to everlasting life means that they should strive for the spiritual purity that guarantees the immortality of their souls.
In other words, he was telling them that knowledge which he had given them was nourishment for the long,laborous and lonely spiritual journey to everlasting life.
And yes many may embark on that journey , but only few would make it to the final mile.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Rilwayne001: 6:13pm On Nov 02, 2014
plaetton:
Good question.

Jesus was a member of the Essene therapeutate.
The Essenes had a code through which they communicated to one another. Before commencing his teachings, Jesus would normally say " to those who have ears let them hear" . This was a way of alerting his brethren to hidden codes of his sermons.

Jesus supposedly lived during the age of Pisces, the fish.
So the Essenes, as well as other esoteric/ religious groups adopted the Fish as their most sacred symbol. The fish symbolised life , knowledge and wisdom.
It is no surprise that the disciples of Jesus were Fish-ermen.

In Essene nomenclature, to give someone fish meant to offer the person knowledge and wisdom for life.

Therefore, that Jesus fed the multitude with fish and loaves makes perfect sense.

What is that the more you give it the more it multiplies?
Take a guess.
It is life, love and knowledge.
This is what Jesus fed to the multitude. It is the gift that keeps on multiplying.
The loaf stands for life, sustenance. The fish stands for knowledge.

This is what ever teacher does: feed multitudes with the fish that keeps multiplying.

Of course, the little minded amongst us would not accept this simple truth.
Naaa.
Miracle sounds better for their little minds.

Copacetic
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Nobody: 6:16pm On Nov 02, 2014
Goshen360:
Yes, he did. He did by the ACT OF MIRACLE. Miracles are supernatural occurrence that transcend across natural. The Jews will not believe he is the awaiting messiah except by miracles. That's the proof!!!

His had to stoop low to using magic and food to convince people into believing him.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Pr0ton: 6:53pm On Nov 02, 2014
shocked shocked shocked worst of all Bible twisting...



























Not my problem anyway.
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 7:56pm On Nov 02, 2014
Now as i am going to reveal the 2 fishes and the 5 loaves of bread, nairalander will shower me with abuses and curses even without reading or learning. however be the case, i hope you will read the books. they are free online. the loaves will help you understand the best of the fishes. it will kick start the foundation of knowledge, wisdom and your understanding will expand out of the planet earth, the brains can't expand pass its normal size and can't weigh pass 7.5 ounce. But the mind can expand to the corners of the whole planet which is 238,640,000,000,000,000,000 miles in circumference, and 78 quintillion miles in diameter.
In the bible, it says "He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting." in habakkuk 3:6, as far back in 1930, when the whiteman just discovered pluto, The Son of Man revealled the measurements of the universe, even unto the speed of thought to us which stood at 24 billion miles per second. these are the fishes and the loaves

THE TWO FISHES :- THE BIBLE AND THE QURAN

IN ORDER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE,

THE LOAVES :-
1) MESSAGE TO THE BLACKMAN
2)OUR SAVIOUR HAS ARRIVED
3)THE FALL OF AMERICA
4)HOW TO EAT TO LIVE BOOK 1
5)HOW TO EAT TO LIVE BOOK 2

It is free online. i will paste the link. read direct, copy, print out, ignore, or abuse. if you must abuse however, abuse with facts after you must have made your researches. if you wish to bring me on the right path, i would really appreciate it, but then you must prove yourself empirically, logically.

link- http://www.seventhfam.com/temple/elijah_books.htm
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by ultraGM: 9:03pm On Nov 02, 2014
Am my pastor warns me about those who usw philosophy of men to make the word of God of no effect. Am I kidding? Iread it in bible myself

LO AND BEHOLD ...PHILOSOPHY OF MEN

If you have never seen miracle before, pls research well just the way you dig up this your so called PHILOSOPHY OF MEN
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by gatiano(m): 9:21pm On Nov 02, 2014
the philosophy of men are those philosopher that claimed GOD is a spirit, the greeks, and they contend with the truth and deceived many. thus


THE TWO FISHES :- THE BIBLE AND THE QURAN

IN ORDER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE,

THE LOAVES :-
1) MESSAGE TO THE BLACKMAN
2)OUR SAVIOUR HAS ARRIVED
3)THE FALL OF AMERICA
4)HOW TO EAT TO LIVE BOOK 1
5)HOW TO EAT TO LIVE BOOK 2

It is free online. i will paste the link. read direct, copy, print out, ignore, or abuse. if you must abuse however, abuse with facts after you must have made your researches. if you wish to bring me on the right path, i would really appreciate it, but then you must prove yourself empirically, logically.

link- http://www.seventhfam.com/temple/elijah_books.htm

ultraGM:
Am my pastor warns me about those who usw philosophy of men to make the word of God of no effect. Am I kidding? Iread it in bible myself

LO AND BEHOLD ...PHILOSOPHY OF MEN

If you have never seen miracle before, pls research well just the way you dig up this your so called PHILOSOPHY OF MEN
Re: Did Jesus Really Feed Around 5000 Men With Just 2 Fishes And 5 Loaves Of Bread? by Drilla(m): 11:23am On Nov 03, 2014
gatiano:
what about the loaves? 5 large wheat farmland?


[b]LOL...Nah...more like 5 loaves of heavily yeasted bread soaked over time[/b]

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