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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Sankabson(m): 4:07am On Nov 03, 2014
Vanity Upon Vanity!! Theres Nothing You Bring To This World,And Surely You Cant Take Anything Back..

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by itachinedu: 5:32am On Nov 03, 2014
AdeniyiA:
in as much as you have some valid points concerning the disintegration of the head church after the death of the GOs,
did you ever ask if God is through with him? if not that some churches have gone commercial, the position of an overseer is not like that of politics ,where the outgoing office holder can choose his successor. This is strictly God's business
I believe that since the church was handed over to him nd has since being waxing strong,it would surely wax stronger when Adeboye is gone .God owns redeem not Adeboye
were you there when God gave him the 'business'? God has given every man authority and power, only if they knew it. If Adeboye has become a success, its to his own cheers. it has nothing to do with a special arrangement, so would it be if he eventually gives up. its Adeboye's business or rather church business, let him do with it as he pleases. Leave our Almighty Creator out of it cos HE doesnt need Naira to cause the sun to rise daily.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by pussyeater(m): 5:48am On Nov 03, 2014
Make una dey here dey argue when onihaxy don drop plenty updates on Adebimpe part 2 for romance
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by CHEKWASUCHE(m): 5:52am On Nov 03, 2014
Some times i began to wonder if some pple do read bible? The bible said, thou shall not judge. Also, thou shall not speak false against the man of God.
What is ur business concerning the G.O of RCCG to hand over? Are u God that determines who go to heaven? Where u there when the Founder handover to him?
Adeboye is a real man of God. Believe it or not. And i knw, God will do his will @ His own time.

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by jimmy101231(m): 5:55am On Nov 03, 2014
[color=#770077][/color] why people they put mouth for waiting no concern them...go help am handover naaa..mumu

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by KriTic24A: 6:13am On Nov 03, 2014
luluosas:
Wednesday, 3 April 2013

Prominent Redeemed Church Pastor Poisons Pst. Adeboye

Culled from http://christendomnewspaper..com/2013/04/prominent-redeemed-church-pastor.html?m=1
A prominent pastor of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) has attempted poisoning the Church’s General Overseer, Pastor E.A Adeboye.

The cause of his attempt The Christendom Newspaper learnt was not unconnected with the soft-spoken man of God’s promotion and continued retention of the Church’s General Overseer’s position.

It was learnt that Pst. Adeboye was poisoned by one of the members of a power bloc, who is equally a prominent pastor during one of the Church’s meetings, which was held at the Church’s Redemption Camp, located along Lagos-Ibadan Expressway.

The poison was said to have been injected into a cup of juice the man of God was meant to take.

However, just before Pst.Adeboye attempted taking the juice, the Holy Spirit revealed to him that the juice had been poisoned.

Upon this divine revelation, Pst.Adeboye demanded that the person who was responsible for the poisoned juice either confess or remain cursed.
Shortly afterwards, a prominent pastor in the Church, whose name was not given, stood up and begged for forgiveness.

The pastor whose identity was not given is said to come from Oyo State, South West Nigeria. He was formerly the provincial pastor of Lagos Province 7, many years back.

It is said that many top pastors of the Church are bent on getting Pastor Adeboye, who they consider due for retirement, out of the Church’s General Overseer position.

It would be recalled that at a point last year, Pastor Adeboye was advised to step down so as to pave the way for young pastors to take over the Church’s leadership.
Adeboye emerged the RCCG’s General Overseer in 1981, taking over from the Church’s original founder, Papa AKindayomi who died in 1980.

For more than two years, Pastor Adeboye held the position as a part-time pastor, still lecturing at the University of Ilorin, until he finally gave up his university lecturing job to become a full-time pastor.

Adeboye, since he had taken over the Church as the General Overseer, has succeeded in planting the Redeemed Christian Church of God virtually in all neighbourhoods. The Church now has branches in over one-hundred countries of the world, with over 14,000 branches in Nigeria.



And they are men of God?
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by lastpage: 6:26am On Nov 03, 2014
Nigerians are not only gullible, they hate to be told the TRUTH but would rather wallow in "religious ignorance".

BTW: Even Adeboye himself was "nominated and appointed" by the late Overseer before his death.
Go and read Adeboye's statements on this matter, its somewhere here in Nairaland sef.
If the former founder/leader had not done that, there would have been "war" over succession. Up till now, some senior members of the church are still plotting his fall.
Its even worse now that the "church is very rich" and "Private JET levels" is involved. wink wink

Look at Celestial Church of Christ, when the former founder, S.B.J. Oshoffa died suddenly!
Ajanlekoko, Oshofa's son and one other fella like that nearly burned down the whole church, over who will succeed him! grin grin

Take a cue from Pastor "Jerry Curls" Chris and his wife Anita, matter!
Tell me if that Church is not already breaking into two, with Chris being removed from the"lucrative" U.K Chapter, by his wife (for justifiable reasons or not). This is happening when he is still alive o, what do you think will happen if he suddenly passes on unexpectedly?
You think all those senior pastors who hve been doing "boy-boy" for Chris all these years, will allow the wife to just grab the whole thing like that?

The reason the Catholic Church survives till today and does not experience such "open anarchy" when it comes to succession is because they have put in place, a solid means of "black vs. white smoke-screen" strategy, not withstanding the politics that still comes into play in choosing a new Pope.

All these ignorant people saying "its God's business" and therefore Adeboye does not need to put things in order, are just being naive!
CHURCH is MEGA BUSINESS, ..next to Bureau de Change!

From the 'little' l know about RCCG and as an "elder" who follows the "money trail" as we disburse it from my own Parish, RCCG is currently operating as a FRANCHISE, much like KFC or McDonalds.
If you have the land, the "sweet mouth" and the Charisma to hoodwink Eediots, you are allowed to "buy into the BRAND NAME called RCCG" .... as long as you remit the stipulated "PERCENTAGE" to Adeboye at the RCCG headquarters!.


No Biggy!


Lastapge!

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by lastpage: 6:37am On Nov 03, 2014
CHEKWASUCHE:
Some times i began to wonder if some pple do read bible? The bible said, thou shall not judge. Also, thou shall not speak false against the man of God.
What is ur business concerning the G.O of RCCG to hand over? Are u God that determines who go to heaven? Where u there when the Founder handover to him?
Adeboye is a real man of God. Believe it or not. And i knw, God will do his will @ His own time.

Do you also wonder why some people read "just one part" of the Bible .....and dont even understand that small part?

Or is it not the same Bible that says "Search everything THOROUGHLY and HOLD FIRMLY unto that which is the TRUTH?
So, how do you investigate thoroughly, if you cant "ask questions and hold opinions"?

Is it not the same Bible that said "Seek the truth and it will set you free"? A lot of Christians are not yet free (in bondage of ignorance) because they refuse to "seek the truth" by asking questions, under the guise of "Thou shall not judge"!


"JUDGING" as used in that Bible verse refers to "wrongful condemnation".... which is very different from 'asking questions and seeking to know the TRUTH".


Even Jesus, while he was alive and on earth, was questioned thoroughly, by his disciples.... and he never rebuked them but ANSWERED THEM so that they may gain "accurate knowledge" of God the father.


My Brother, l enjoin you to "open your eyes", read your Bible and pray to God to give you "understanding" so that you shall not continue to hold unto STRAWS.
God will help you as you help yourselves

Lastpage!

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Nobody: 6:40am On Nov 03, 2014
Read your Bible very well. Handing over has been a constant practice even from the Old Testament. Jesus handed over to Peter, while Moses to Joshua. But the only difference is that those chosen were chosen by the holy Spirit. If God doesn't want them to hand over till they die, that's His will; It is God's church, not a family or personal venture as some wrongfully take it to be. Bless you!
larrymoore:
There is no Need for him to hand over, Jesus never handed over. Bless u
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Nobody: 6:52am On Nov 03, 2014
Melahou:
What can you say about the catholic church in the event of the death of the pope?

Catholics have a well organized succession plan decades in the making. Adeboye is reaching beyond his grasp. God has many ministers he can easily raise to that position. Is adeboye. Sit tight MOG
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by lastpage: 6:56am On Nov 03, 2014
MNDY:
Some non-Christian Nairalanders may use the OP's post (and other 2014's unfortunate occurences dealt on Christendom) as an avenue to make the Christian faith a laughing stock! DON'T!
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The scripture remains the same! And any clergyman/woman would preach it as it is to the adherents! It is "do as I say (preach) and not as I do."
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Events in the contemporary churches are mind-boggling! From corruption to politicized supposed clergymen/women, and even cases of doing the opposite of things preached by the clergy etc.

Does it bother you that the current Catholic Pope, said this last week that "God doesnot have a magic wand with which he could have created humans with and he therefore supports the "Big bang" theory which says that man was created by some freak explosive accident"?
Now, if the Bible says "God created us in his own image, in His image we were created".... and the head of the Catholic church, (who by the way also supports and advocates sodomy and homosexuality, as against Biblical teachings!) is making ridicule of God in this manner, then you should know we are truly in the figurative "end times", as the Bible said.


Do not bother or worry about those "outsiders" who make the "Christian faith a laughing stock".
It does not change the purpose of God for his people.

The only house that can stand, is one that continually purges itself of "falsehood".
While they are 'laughing' Christianity is being purified ...and you remember what is said about raw gold, before it becomes "expensive" ornamental gold? it undergoes purification in FIRE! wink

Lastpage!

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by chibecanglobal(m): 6:58am On Nov 03, 2014
larrymoore:
There is no Need for him to hand over, Jesus never handed over. Bless u
But Christ according to the bible appointed a successessor in the person of Peter the rock.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by ukandi1(m): 7:10am On Nov 03, 2014
larrymoore:
There is no Need for him to hand over, Jesus never handed over. Bless u

Return to ur bible again.. Jesus handed over the leadership of the church to PETER
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by tolustx(m): 7:41am On Nov 03, 2014
A message for every true believer
2Timothy 4:1-5(NkJV)

1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.
5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

Not judging, but Goshen360 and his cohorts look like dos described in verse 3-4. Others things I see in him are:
1. Hatred
2. Oversabi
3. Pride
4. Power-hunger
Pls work on dos and odas dat may also be and it is well wit u.
The Church is marching on and the gate of hell cannot prevail against it! Shalom...
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by dom(m): 8:22am On Nov 03, 2014
lastpage:

Nigerians are not only gullible, they hate to be told the TRUTH but would rather wallow in "religious ignorance".

BTW: Even Adeboye himself was "nominated and appointed" by the late Overseer before his death.
Go and read Adeboye's statements on this matter, its somewhere here in Nairaland sef.
If the former founder/leader had not done that, there would have been "war" over succession. Up till now, some senior members of the church are still plotting his fall.
Its even worse now that the "church is very rich" and "Private JET levels" is involved. wink wink

Look at Celestial Church of Christ, when the former founder, S.B.J. Oshoffa died suddenly!
Ajanlekoko, Oshofa's son and one other fella like that nearly burned down the whole church, over who will succeed him! grin grin

Take a cue from Pastor "Jerry Curls" Chris and his wife Anita, matter!
Tell me if that Church is not already breaking into two, with Chris being removed from the"lucrative" U.K Chapter, by his wife (for justifiable reasons or not). This is happening when he is still alive o, what do you think will happen if he suddenly passes on unexpectedly?
You think all those senior pastors who hve been doing "boy-boy" for Chris all these years, will allow the wife to just grab the whole thing like that?

The reason the Catholic Church survives till today and does not experience such "open anarchy" when it comes to succession is because they have put in place, a solid means of "black vs. white smoke-screen" strategy, not withstanding the politics that still comes into play in choosing a new Pope.

All these ignorant people saying "its God's business" and therefore Adeboye does not need to put things in order, are just being naive!
CHURCH is MEGA BUSINESS, ..next to Bureau de Change!

From the 'little' l know about RCCG and as an "elder" who follows the "money trail" as we disburse it from my own Parish, RCCG is currently operating as a FRANCHISE, much like KFC or McDonalds.
If you have the land, the "sweet mouth" and the Charisma to hoodwink Eediots, you are allowed to "buy into the BRAND NAME called RCCG" .... as long as you remit the stipulated "PERCENTAGE" to Adeboye at the RCCG headquarters!.


No Biggy!


Lastapge!
it is not flesh and blood that revealed this to you. But my father in heaven. By the way, you write so well. Did you school in U.I?
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by drstone1: 8:24am On Nov 03, 2014
AdeniyiA:
in as much as you have some valid points concerning the disintegration of the head church after the death of the GOs,
did you ever ask if God is through with him? if not that some churches have gone commercial, the position of an overseer is not like that of politics ,where the outgoing office holder can choose his successor. This is strictly God's business
I believe that since the church was handed over to him nd has since being waxing strong,it would surely wax stronger when Adeboye is gone .God owns redeem not Adeboye

The OP reason is one of the soundest voice of WISDOM coming around. Just because he does not claim to be a SEER, Prophet or Pastor does nt make his advice what shd be brushed aside. One of the problems AFricA lacks is sustained, quality and unbroken succession of amazing leadership. And to not plan ahead when yu can is a recipe for anArchy and disaster. God forbid!!! While He, Adeboye is out of the seat he can act and shape the next leadership to be on d right course before he finally says bye bye.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by issylarry(m): 8:46am On Nov 03, 2014
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by thegoodone2(m): 8:50am On Nov 03, 2014
AdeniyiA:
in as much as you have some valid points concerning the disintegration of the head church after the death of the GOs,
did you ever ask if God is through with him? if not that some churches have gone commercial, the position of an overseer is not like that of politics ,where the outgoing office holder can choose his successor. This is strictly God's business
I believe that since the church was handed over to him nd has since being waxing strong,it would surely wax stronger when Adeboye is gone .God owns redeem not Adeboye
He has a good point and u too but dont forget what happen in d Bible.Elijha, Elishah and giasi. the problem always come on the third person.I dont pray for that because am a member of RCCG. It will better if Baba announce one person now.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by drstone1: 8:56am On Nov 03, 2014
lastpage:


Do you also wonder why some people read "just one part" of the Bible .....and dont even understand that small part?

Or is it not the same Bible that says "Search everything THOROUGHLY and HOLD FIRMLY unto that which is the TRUTH?
So, how do you investigate thoroughly, if you cant "ask questions and hold opinions"?

Is it not the same Bible that said "Seek the truth and it will set you free"? A lot of Christians are not yet free (in bondage of ignorance) because they refuse to "seek the truth" by asking questions, under the guise of "Thou shall not judge"!


"JUDGING" as used in that Bible verse refers to "wrongful condemnation".... which is very different from 'asking questions and seeking to know the TRUTH".


Even Jesus, while he was alive and on earth, was questioned thoroughly, by his disciples.... and he never rebuked them but ANSWERED THEM so that they may gain "accurate knowledge" of God the father.


My Brother, l enjoin you to "open your eyes", read your Bible and pray to God to give you "understanding" so that you shall not continue to hold unto STRAWS.
God will help you as you help yourselves

Lastpage!

@lastpage.I thank God for you. When God gives us men of understanding like you. It is a rare gift!
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by SIRJENTLE: 8:56am On Nov 03, 2014
as Christians they should emulate Christ.
BEFORE THE DEATH OF CHRIST HE TOLD PETER TO TAKE CARE OF HIS SHEEP.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by ebukaOtika(m): 9:11am On Nov 03, 2014
AdeniyiA:
in as much as you have some valid points concerning the disintegration of the head church after the death of the GOs,
did you ever ask if God is through with him? if not that some churches have gone commercial, the position of an overseer is not like that of politics ,where the outgoing office holder can choose his successor. This is strictly God's business
I believe that since the church was handed over to him nd has since being waxing strong,it would surely wax stronger when Adeboye is gone .God owns redeem not Adeboye

Owk lets Wait,,,, Watch,,,, and See,,,,
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by bamigboye27: 9:12am On Nov 03, 2014
na u call am to ministry, wen d person wey call am tell am say he don finish wit am, He go tell am
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Boboedom: 9:16am On Nov 03, 2014
Success without a successor is a disaster. Even our Lord Jesus Christ planned His.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by ebukaOtika(m): 9:21am On Nov 03, 2014
Melahou:
What can you say about the catholic church in the event of the death of the pope?


To the best of my Knowledge,.,,,When a Pope , Cardinals ,Archbishops , Bishops , Priests die or must leave due for retirement or transfer,,,, the Church goes on,,,, she never stops for 1 reason until another Pope is Appointed by the Holy Spirit to take over,.,,, As for the Cardinals and down my list ,,,, They replace them by Transfer and appointment too,,.,,,,.. If you can remember when Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI retired,,,, the Church never stopped for a minute until Pope Francis 1 was Appointed "Habemus Papam"
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by emmasege: 9:26am On Nov 03, 2014
There's no point for him retiring IF he's still active and agile for the seat & more importantly if he's still got the spiritual vigour required of him. Afterall, pastor kumuyi is a year older & he still appears to be fit for the office. That notwithstanding, there should be a succession plan in place. This talk about his successor still in beer parlour is what I find difficult h to believe. Archbishop idahosa was called home earlier than we all expected. And that is to tell us that God can call his own home at anytime, no matter the person's level of intimacy with God. RCCG should look for daddy GOs successor while he's still alive & let the person step into his shoes now (if need be). This is the success secret of orthodox protestant churches (Anglican, Baptist etc) which have lasted centuries. The church leaders rarely die in office and in most cases, their offices are tenured.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Nobody: 9:32am On Nov 03, 2014
is he Jesus?
larrymoore:
There is no Need for him to hand over, Jesus never handed over. Bless u

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Abyzan(m): 10:04am On Nov 03, 2014
ma nigga aint going down no soon...God will prompt him when to do such
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by ladej(m): 10:08am On Nov 03, 2014
Chukwutobi:


Churches that got divided after the death of their leaders were stronger when the leaders were alive. You can't trust humans. They can turn out to become something else after the death of their leaders.
very well said
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Nobody: 10:18am On Nov 03, 2014
cramjones:
Meanwhile while the religious arm of PDP - Pastor Adeboye, Orisejifor and co think about of their successors, we must hail and vote for President Jonathan for creating a wonderful Nigeria, especially for the people of Mubi and Vintim. Great job President Jonathan, great Job! Even Sky News has hailed your naivety and incompetence! Support Jonathan and his pastors. You may be next in the horrific photos.

-CramJones

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=917141621632221&set=vb.410835422262846&type=2&theater
Just when u thought u have witness stupidity at itz best another will surface... So GEJ is d reason y baba never step down... Mtscheeww
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by Themandator: 10:22am On Nov 03, 2014
Chukwutobi:
Reason Pastor E. A. Adeboye Should Handover Now!

The Redeemed Christian Church of God has expanded greatly and it is still expanding. This tremendous growth has made it one of the richest churches in Africa(it may even be the richest). It has a large number of pastors with the head as Pastor E. A. Adeboye.

The problem is some (if not many) are position covetous. It will surprise you the things these pastors use to canvass for position. They give gifts that do not come from their heart to senior pastors and show fake 'submissiveness'.

If Pastor Adeboye dies without putting his successor in the general overseer position, there will be a big problem. This problem will be similar to that of Christ Apostolic Church(CAC) of Apostle Ayodele Babalola. Despite how prayerful the man was, the events that followed his death were strange as pastors at a time used charms against themselves in the name of fighting for position. The factions of CAC now are many and the church lacks unity even till now.

The reason for my opinion now is death can come anytime. I'm not wishing Pastor Adeboye death o. What I'm saying is Apostle Babalola death came without notice. He had just prepared for a crusade and decided to sleep than he died. Also the recent death of Pastor Sadela (oldest man on pulpit) is a sign. A man that claimed God told him he will live up to 200 years died suddenly.

Anyway it is my opinion and this may be disregarded if God leads him not to handover now.


God bless Bishop Oyedepo.... He solved this problem in the church constitution called the mandate. Once you glance through the mandate you know who is to succeed him if he should become incapacitated or no more
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Should Hand-Over Now by amaechijay: 10:40am On Nov 03, 2014
LOL...@

Maybe he needs to start succession plans... to his son!

or to his wife like others.

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