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Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 10:34pm On Nov 09, 2014
makkitush:
hahahahahahahaha. I'm shocked, missberrypop5 is giving us the trophy. This calls for a celebration. As for manure, u guys will not see 5th this season.:-P
shellshit too deh shiu! I'll wound you o angry
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 10:36pm On Nov 09, 2014
cristweeezy:
lol. Fenks. Cn u do me a favour?
Which is?
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by M4gunners: 10:44pm On Nov 09, 2014
maestroferddi:
Na wa for you o!

How can you attribute the loss to Swansea to anything besides tactical inanity?

Whose call was it to make substitutions and reorganise the formation to protect the lead and score more? How many times would Arsenal come unstuck just because Wenger chooses to be tardy in applying common sense?
For ur mind o,old finish Drogba who play only 3mints added time or Remy mr bench u are calling quality striker? Walcot just come back from injury, needs time b4 introducing him on time or even starting he.I continue to blame the players.
You had all the time to introduce Walcott so as to stretch the opposition defence and restrict them to their core job description but what did you do? A reactive dilly-dallied and was caught napping.

Garry Monk outcoached Wenger fair and square. He pulled out Emnes (MF) and Taylor and
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by makkitush: 10:46pm On Nov 09, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
What is paining me. That you guys are on top the table. Every season, there are four titles to compete for.

So we are still in three. So what is pain?

What you should note is that, it is not yet over. There are still 27 games left.

Last season, by march, you guys were on top the table. We were second, Liverpool were third. The season ended with Man City first, Liverpool second and Chelsea third.
ok, we will see abt that cos talk is cheap.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by 1025: 10:51pm On Nov 09, 2014
abfan:
Dear Arsene, I find myself writing this letter not out of anger
but out of frustration. As a fan (not customer, fan) of the
Arsenal I find it hard to get angry with the team’s
performances these days because to be frank, nothing
surprises me anymore. I have seen it all before. Arsenal are,
to some extent, masters of snatching defeat from the jaws
of victory. So why am I writing this? As I have touched upon
above, it is a letter borne out of frustration. Frustration that
the club, run by you Mr Wenger is in a never ending cycle of
mediocrity when things can be so much better given the
resources at our disposal. If you love Arsenal as much as
you say you do, please do the best for the club and accept
you have taken it as far as you can, resign and allow another
manager to take the club forward. You can enjoy your legacy
of revolutionising English Football and enjoy the fact you had
a hugely successful first 10 years at Arsenal. No doubt you
will read this and think “what does he know? he hasn’t
worked 2 minutes in football or won the FA cup” and you are
quite right, I haven’t. That doesn’t make my opinion any
less valid, nor does it prevent me from having one. I am a
pragmatist, to me, to flourish is to adapt, to be questioned,
to be challenged and in top level sport, to win. Since you
have managed the club your style and philosophy hasn’t
changed, hasn’t evolved but English Football has. Failure to
adapt is costing us dear. Failure to address obvious
weaknesses within the squad, the failure to bring in
adequate or superior replacements for those players
departing. Failure to address the lack of discipline in the
team, not from a fouling perspective but from a tactical one,
3-2 up at home and we have 5 players in an advanced
position against a team who by your own admission are
excellent on the counter attack. It isn’t just this week’s
capitulation against Anderlecht that prompts this letter it is
a culmination of events throughout your tenure. The team do
not learn lessons; the defence still make elementary
mistakes. Blaming the players is the easy option but was
the back four the same as last night when we conceded 4
against Newcastle at St James Park, 8 against Manchester
United, 6 against Manchester City, 4 against Tottenham at
home in 2008. No they weren’t, was the manager the same.
Yes. That isn’t bad luck; it’s a trend, one you haven’t
addressed over the years. There is no doubt you are
stubborn, can that work to one’s advantage? Absolutely but
it can also be detrimental if left unchecked, unfortunately it
seems the latter is true. So you won’t resign, what is next?
How do we change things? How can we ensure mistakes are
not repeated? May I suggest the following? * If Steve Bould
isn’t coaching the defence, let him, if he is then perhaps it’s
time to delegate that away from him or bring in some ex-
players who know a thing or two about defending, Messer’s
Keown & Adams would be a good starting point. * Address
the team’s obvious defensive weaknesses, accept the
Wenger way may not be what’s best for Arsenal FC, not
Arsene FC and purchase accordingly. There is a good reason
the saying “you get what you pay for” exists and in most
cases, rings true. There are some excellent defenders in the
Premiership who would love to represent such a prestigious
club like the Arsenal. Winston Reid was a good example. *
Bring in a tactician who can be a pragmatist as an assistant
manager, someone who can offer a different opinion,
challenge you and can set up a team according to the
opponent. That’s not to say attacking football to which we
are known for is compromised, it’s a pragmatic approach to
ensure a good solid defensive foundation is built enabling the
attacking players to express themselves. * Bring in an
external party to evaluate the training methods & playing
surfaces in order to better understand why so many of the
players suffer muscular injuries. Shad Forsythe is an
excellent addition; let’s focus on prevention rather than
cure / rehabilitation. * Play players in their natural position,
this sounds simple and it is, a number 10 (Ozil) is played as
a number 10, not as a winger players who aren’t performing
are taken out of the limelight to regain form (Ramsey) and
players who are in form are played regularly not because
they are a favourite of the manager. (Sanogo over Joel
Campbell / Lukas Podolski) Now that may not be the case,
but looking from the outside in, that’s the impression we
get. * Make substitutions based on the needs of the game. If
a player isn’t performing, be a manager, break your loyalty
to that player and take him off at half time rather than the
70th minute. Be pragmatic, again, using Anderlecht as an
example, if we are 3-2 up, don’t bring on attacking players,
get on the touch line, organise 2 banks of 4 and if you
absolutely have to have an attacking player on, use Walcott
to hit them on the break and / or run into the channels to
hold the ball up and keep possession. * Have a plan and
listen to counsel – Identify the teams weaknesses, identify
replacements and start doing the ground work as much as
you can (within the rules of course) before the transfer
window opens. Pay the asking price, using the Arsenal brand
to sell to the player, get the deal done, the player settled
well in time for pre- season as Manchester City & Chelsea
have done in the past to their benefit. As a manager it is
your job to identify the players you and your coaching staff
think we need, not to negotiate fee’s or argue on what you
think a player is worth. That is for the Chief Executive and
Finance Director to worry about. I have decided not to
mention the issues at board level, I wanted this letter to
focus on what can be changed on the field and training
pitches. This is not a personal attack; it is to raise
concerns, to point out flaws, offer constructive solutions. It
may not always seem obvious but the fans criticise because
they care. We like you Arsene, love Arsenal FC. Let’s either
see a change of manager or a change in approach. Being
challenged and admitting mistakes isn’t a weakness it’s a
sign you are prepared to change, prepared to evolve and
hopefully be as successful as you were in the first 10 years
as manager of this great club.

oga, am sorry i was unable to continue with ur poem because of my time. i understand u are pained. is not by force to be an arsenal fan. players coaches do change clubs. my dear, pls change ur club if u no see wetin u find come there.

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Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by makkitush: 10:52pm On Nov 09, 2014
missberrypop5:
shellshit too deh shiu! I'll wound you o angry
ok no vex my dear. I'll not disturb u,for now ooo.:-D. But just bear it in mind that'll be waiting for u in the assnal manure thread.:-D see u then dearie nd wishing u a fablous break.;-)
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by keandre: 11:21pm On Nov 09, 2014
Samunique:
This arsenal jersey heh! I no know whether clothes don finish for market? Horribly tight!!!! Make them look like................... hmm
their jersey tight pass their defense
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 11:31pm On Nov 09, 2014
macjireh:


Mourinho still remains d best Coach in Epl as it stands, give him dat same Mcity team and he will do wonders, even d current Chelsea are not as strong as Citey

Shut up there. Why didn't he win trophies for two straight years despite having good squads?

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Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Samunique(m): 11:32pm On Nov 09, 2014
keandre:

their jersey tight pass their defense
Very true.

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Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by cristweeezy(m): 11:44pm On Nov 09, 2014
missberrypop5:
Which is?
cn u gv me ur email? Or to make it private,can u mail me? Wanna av friends lyk u. Lol
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Strydermanz(m): 12:25am On Nov 10, 2014
grin am jus pas by!!!!!!hahahahah lmao
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 5:40am On Nov 10, 2014
They are always losing
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by olayinkaj2(m): 5:58am On Nov 10, 2014
Arsenal can't just seems not to disappoint. The match you expect them to win, they lose and the one you expect them to lose, they win. losing points at this stage will count come may. Instead for us to be battling to win the league, it will now be battle to survive forth position. Forget the fact that swansea defeated man u in the opening season, they are still not a top four material. I see only chelsea grinding out result whether by hook or by crook.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by PLEXPLEX(m): 6:19am On Nov 10, 2014
....And them wan catch CHELSEA...
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by macjireh: 6:41am On Nov 10, 2014
ollah1:


Shut up there. Why didn't he win trophies for two straight years despite having good squads?

whoz talking about d past here, i mean Presently or u have a problem with comprehension

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Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 6:43am On Nov 10, 2014
Wenger kêèp$ vindicating the Special One. #S.I.F
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by onyeomaonyeoma(m): 6:53am On Nov 10, 2014
abfan:
Dear Arsene, I find myself writing this letter not out of anger
but out of frustration. As a fan (not customer, fan) of the
Arsenal I find it hard to get angry with the team’s
performances these days because to be frank, nothing
surprises me anymore. I have seen it all before. Arsenal are,
to some extent, masters of snatching defeat from the jaws
of victory. So why am I writing this? As I have touched upon
above, it is a letter borne out of frustration. Frustration that
the club, run by you Mr Wenger is in a never ending cycle of
mediocrity when things can be so much better given the
resources at our disposal. If you love Arsenal as much as
you say you do, please do the best for the club and accept
you have taken it as far as you can, resign and allow another
manager to take the club forward. You can enjoy your legacy
of revolutionising English Football and enjoy the fact you had
a hugely successful first 10 years at Arsenal. No doubt you
will read this and think “what does he know? he hasn’t
worked 2 minutes in football or won the FA cup” and you are
quite right, I haven’t. That doesn’t make my opinion any
less valid, nor does it prevent me from having one. I am a
pragmatist, to me, to flourish is to adapt, to be questioned,
to be challenged and in top level sport, to win. Since you
have managed the club your style and philosophy hasn’t
changed, hasn’t evolved but English Football has. Failure to
adapt is costing us dear. Failure to address obvious
weaknesses within the squad, the failure to bring in
adequate or superior replacements for those players
departing. Failure to address the lack of discipline in the
team, not from a fouling perspective but from a tactical one,
3-2 up at home and we have 5 players in an advanced
position against a team who by your own admission are
excellent on the counter attack. It isn’t just this week’s
capitulation against Anderlecht that prompts this letter it is
a culmination of events throughout your tenure. The team do
not learn lessons; the defence still make elementary
mistakes. Blaming the players is the easy option but was
the back four the same as last night when we conceded 4
against Newcastle at St James Park, 8 against Manchester
United, 6 against Manchester City, 4 against Tottenham at
home in 2008. No they weren’t, was the manager the same.
Yes. That isn’t bad luck; it’s a trend, one you haven’t
addressed over the years. There is no doubt you are
stubborn, can that work to one’s advantage? Absolutely but
it can also be detrimental if left unchecked, unfortunately it
seems the latter is true. So you won’t resign, what is next?
How do we change things? How can we ensure mistakes are
not repeated? May I suggest the following? * If Steve Bould
isn’t coaching the defence, let him, if he is then perhaps it’s
time to delegate that away from him or bring in some ex-
players who know a thing or two about defending, Messer’s
Keown & Adams would be a good starting point. * Address
the team’s obvious defensive weaknesses, accept the
Wenger way may not be what’s best for Arsenal FC, not
Arsene FC and purchase accordingly. There is a good reason
the saying “you get what you pay for” exists and in most
cases, rings true. There are some excellent defenders in the
Premiership who would love to represent such a prestigious
club like the Arsenal. Winston Reid was a good example. *
Bring in a tactician who can be a pragmatist as an assistant
manager, someone who can offer a different opinion,
challenge you and can set up a team according to the
opponent. That’s not to say attacking football to which we
are known for is compromised, it’s a pragmatic approach to
ensure a good solid defensive foundation is built enabling the
attacking players to express themselves. * Bring in an
external party to evaluate the training methods & playing
surfaces in order to better understand why so many of the
players suffer muscular injuries. Shad Forsythe is an
excellent addition; let’s focus on prevention rather than
cure / rehabilitation. * Play players in their natural position,
this sounds simple and it is, a number 10 (Ozil) is played as
a number 10, not as a winger players who aren’t performing
are taken out of the limelight to regain form (Ramsey) and
players who are in form are played regularly not because
they are a favourite of the manager. (Sanogo over Joel
Campbell / Lukas Podolski) Now that may not be the case,
but looking from the outside in, that’s the impression we
get. * Make substitutions based on the needs of the game. If
a player isn’t performing, be a manager, break your loyalty
to that player and take him off at half time rather than the
70th minute. Be pragmatic, again, using Anderlecht as an
example, if we are 3-2 up, don’t bring on attacking players,
get on the touch line, organise 2 banks of 4 and if you
absolutely have to have an attacking player on, use Walcott
to hit them on the break and / or run into the channels to
hold the ball up and keep possession. * Have a plan and
listen to counsel – Identify the teams weaknesses, identify
replacements and start doing the ground work as much as
you can (within the rules of course) before the transfer
window opens. Pay the asking price, using the Arsenal brand
to sell to the player, get the deal done, the player settled
well in time for pre- season as Manchester City & Chelsea
have done in the past to their benefit. As a manager it is
your job to identify the players you and your coaching staff
think we need, not to negotiate fee’s or argue on what you
think a player is worth. That is for the Chief Executive and
Finance Director to worry about. I have decided not to
mention the issues at board level, I wanted this letter to
focus on what can be changed on the field and training
pitches. This is not a personal attack; it is to raise
concerns, to point out flaws, offer constructive solutions. It
may not always seem obvious but the fans criticise because
they care. We like you Arsene, love Arsenal FC. Let’s either
see a change of manager or a change in approach. Being
challenged and admitting mistakes isn’t a weakness it’s a
sign you are prepared to change, prepared to evolve and
hopefully be as successful as you were in the first 10 years
as manager of this great club.
CHAII see lamentation......bros sorry ooo but to support arsenal no b by force na.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Ologunjude(m): 9:49am On Nov 10, 2014
Sold vermalen to barca. He needed to replace him no he won't.
Thought he should have even taken Alex Song on loan, no he won't.
Fabrigas wanted to come back, no I don't want him cos I have Ozil, play Ozil in his preferred position, no he wouldn't.
You needed goals to at least leave there with a draw, whom do you bring in, inexperienced Sanogo. Leaving better strikers out.
He has lost it completely Mr. Wenger. Just go cos I believe age has caught up with him.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by hotwax: 10:54am On Nov 10, 2014
Chelsea should go for Montero. He is a good replacement for Hazard.

Or is Chamber too poor.

Montero suddenly look like hazard
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by hotwax: 10:56am On Nov 10, 2014
ollah1:


Shut up there. Why didn't he win trophies for two straight years despite having good squads?

He is in second year. Where is the 2 years coming from ?

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Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by hotwax: 11:07am On Nov 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Southampton is going to get better. Remember they are a new team after losing a lot of players under a new management. They will gel and play better with time. They are a threat for the title.

Coach Ronald Koeman has done well so far.

Southampton is the only team that can challenge chelsea.

Arsenal, CIty, Manu are loosers already
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 11:20am On Nov 10, 2014
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 12:32pm On Nov 10, 2014
hotwax:


Southampton is the only team that can challenge chelsea.

Arsenal, CIty, Manu are loosers already
Time will decide. Not mouth.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 1:24pm On Nov 10, 2014
makkitush:
hahahahahahahaha. I'm shocked, missberrypop5 is giving us the trophy. This calls for a celebration. As for manure, u guys will not see 5th this season.:-P
come on we wont be 5th cause we would be at 3rd and above
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 1:47pm On Nov 10, 2014
hotwax:


He is in second year. Where is the 2 years coming from ?

Hmm so fast. What did he win in his last year at Madrid?
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by 1025: 12:48pm On Nov 13, 2014
ollah1:


Hmm so fast. What did he win in his last year at Madrid?

oga, why are u fighting mourinho? is he the swansea coach that won u abi na swansea fans dey here? pls channel ur anger to wenger for betraying ur trust.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 1:06pm On Nov 13, 2014
1025:


oga, why are u fighting mourinho? is he the swansea coach that won u abi na swansea fans dey here? pls channel ur anger to wenger for betraying ur trust.

Ignorance is a disease. It's now a fight for saying the truth? Typical shit fans. Why did you conclude am an arsenal fan?
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by 1025: 2:13pm On Nov 13, 2014
ollah1:


Ignorance is a disease. It's now a fight for saying the truth? Typical shit fans. Why did you conclude am an arsenal fan?

if going two seasons without a trophy makes Mourinho not better than wenger, what happens to a wenger that could go trophy-less for 8 straight seasons? u see how easy it is for u to call me ignorant? well, it doesn't take a prophet to know an arsenal fan especially when they make comments.
Mourinho is still the best if u like insult the whole world. facts and figures are there to speak for him.

what is the difference between what u have done in insulting me now and what ur coach(wenger) did when Mourinho won him 2-0? u ppl like pushing others looking for who will kill u and go in for murder case.
Re: Swansea Vs Arsenal (2 - 1) ON 9th November 2014 by Nobody: 4:46pm On Nov 13, 2014
1025:


if going two seasons without a trophy makes Mourinho not better than wenger, what happens to a wenger that could go trophy-less for 8 straight seasons? u see how easy it is for u to call me ignorant? well, it doesn't take a prophet to know an arsenal fan especially when they make comments.
Mourinho is still the best if u like insult the whole world. facts and figures are there to speak for him.

what is the difference between what u have done in insulting me now and what ur coach(wenger) did when Mourinho won him 2-0? u ppl like pushing others looking for who will kill u and go in for murder case.

Funny how some people make conclusions. It's now an argument Btw Mourinho and Wenger? Go and re read what initiated these convo? When was be awarded the best Coach? Well he the best ur club ever produced so it's understandable.

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