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Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
lastpage: Are you comparing a sane country to the mess called Nigeria? Germans are at least 100 years ahead of your run down patriarchal society. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 2:38pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: drunk on I need you home too, you know |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 2:40pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Tashamania:Stop dreaming about me coming home,I'm on away match tonight. Sorry eh! Variety is the spice of life they say. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 2:43pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: Am calling my lawyer |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 2:47pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:And you still languish in the same run down patriarchal society ? I wonder how you guys feel when you label your own home as a rundown society. And unfortunately when peeps like you end up being subjected to every form of racial discrimination by these your masters that you love more than yourselves you'd be the first to cry blue murder asking the Nigerian embassy to come do something.......smh |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 2:49pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Tashamania:There is no point calling a lawyer sweetheart,just get help from somewhere and be happy. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 2:52pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: You sure about this? |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 2:55pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
naijababe: The equality for all you mentioned is a 180 degree deviation from the discourse. If your goal is equality for all, how does your example of getting paid for 1 yr while you were home demonstrate that? In that time, your male colleagues were working and got paid the exact same thing you were paid for not working. Was that equal for all? The truth is gender equality is not blanket equality. It makes provision for sound biological differences. 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 2:56pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Tashamania:Absolutely sure of course. Go on and catch fun ,don't just get pregnant for an ugly dude and pass it on to me Me no want bastard in me house. *hands her one carton of durex* |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by zeb04(f): 3:13pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
greatnigeria:nice one 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 3:14pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: LMAO. Thanks, I'll really need it you are such a clown |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 3:18pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Tashamania:You're welcome . please help me tell your girlfriend that I'd be home alone tomorrow. Me clown? |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 3:19pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: I'll tell them threeso.me, huh? |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 3:29pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Tashamania:Three ? I'm not planning on dying yet. Oh! I forgot that you're not equal to the task ahead. Oya make una pack come , after all birds of the same feathers flocks together they say . |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 3:31pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: Did you just say am not equal to the task? I'm vexed now |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Kimoni: 3:40pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: She spent one year away from the office and was still given a pay rise like other colleagues who didn't miss a day from work? Nothing equal in that treatment IMO. Equality would demand that she spends another year to make up for lost time before getting her pay rise. Equity on the other hand considered that it was through no fault of hers that she was away from work and gave her the pay rise despite her working for one year. Same with the oval field runners. Equality would demand that they have the same starting and finishing line. But equity dug deeper and considered the actual race each person had to run, hence, gave them different starting points. And that's what equity does in all situations, looks at inherent conditions of each player and treats you based those peculiarities. Fairness and equity strives to achieve equality but equality will not always achieve equity. True equality will not cherry pick you know. Whatever a man is allowed to do, a woman should also be allowed to do and vice versa. that's equality if I understand you guys right and I tell you it's a receipe for disaster. I see women who want to go out topless because men walk shirtless. Is that sane? In summer, I will never allow my teenage daughter go to the park topless but I would certainly allow my teenage son. I have not treated them both equally but I have treated each with fairly. I disagree that the great women of old were all feminist and all fought for gender equality. I would say they fought for equity, treating women fairly was their aim and not equating men and women. A big mistake is to think that every independent, career oriented and successful woman is a feminist and that's why we think the great women of old were all feminists, it's also the same reason why you guys are disappointed with Omotola. I would say she has every reason to be proud of herself for making a huge success out of her career and family at the same time. It's a rare feat in this age, yet she is still humble enough to admit she lets her man run the show at home. She doesn't fight for equality at home. 3 Likes |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 3:52pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
ileobatojo: Ile, my fingers are paining me o, the bolded is exactly what I have been saying now, especially the latter part of the sentence. 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 4:08pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Kimoni: She didn't get the pay raise because she spent a year at home, neither was she withheld the pay raise because she stayed at home for a year. She got what she worked for. She said it and you repeated it. Same with the oval field runners. Equality would demand that they have the same starting and finishing line. But equity dug deeper and considered the actual race each person had to run, hence, gave them different starting points. And that's what equity does in all situations, looks at inherent conditions of each player and treats you based those peculiarities. No, equality demands that they pass the same distance so that the run is fair. Fairness and equity strives to achieve equality but equality will not always achieve equity. True equality will not cherry pick you know. Whatever a man is allowed to do, a woman should also be allowed to do and vice versa. that's equality if I understand you guys right and I tell you it's a receipe for disaster. I see women who want to go out topless because men walk shirtless. Is that sane? In summer, I will never allow my teenage daughter go to the park topless but I would certainly allow my teenage son. I have not treated them both equally but I have treated each with fairly. This is a very good example and this is where most people get it wrong. No sane person claims that there are NO biological differences. In fact, there are quite many. Women have breasts, men don't. Men can impregnate women, women can't impregnate men and so on and so forth but gender equality is not about biological differences and therefore it is not whether your daughters should expose their breasts in the name of gender equality but whether your daughters can also go to a park like your sons. I disagree that the great women of old were all feminist and all fought for gender equality. I would say they fought for equity, treating women fairly was their aim and not equating men and women. I am not equating men and women. There are biological differences. We are not exactly the same. No two humans, not even twins, are the same but all human beings deserve the same rights and opportunities and women, in this part of the world, do not enjoy the same rights and opportunities. A big mistake is to think that every independent, career oriented and successful woman is a feminist and that's why we think the great women of old were all feminists, it's also the same reason why you guys are disappointed with Omotola. I would say she has every reason to be proud of herself for making a huge success out of her career and family at the same time. It's a rare feat in this age, yet she is still humble enough to admit she lets her man run the show at home. She doesn't fight for equality at home. She is not a role model and a great woman for me but anyway, we have discussed this topic enough. It is easy for her to claim that her husband is the captain when she does whatever she wants. I really want to see what she would have done if her husband had asked her to quit her career. I expect, she would shout "Yes, my captain." 2 Likes |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Fellonigerians: 4:12pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
naijababe: That last sentence also applies to women, cos some of them always go for the wrong guys... |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 4:13pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
naijababe: No, not really. that's not what you've been saying. You've been saying that gender equality is blanket equality which means you didn't truly understand it. But what I'm saying is that equity has essentially always been a part of gender equality. If we go by y'all's definition of equality ie same starting line, then you're saying men and women should play on the same football, basketball, hockey teams. That's the same starting line for everyone, not so? However, this is not happening anywhere. So are you saying Sweden for instance is not practicing gender equality? What it means is, your definition is flawed. Gender equality has always accounted for sound biological differences. 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 4:14pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: I feel good when I speak the truth. Does the truth hurt you? And unfortunately when peeps like you end up being subjected to every form of racial discrimination by these your masters that you love more than yourselves you'd be the first to cry blue murder asking the Nigerian embassy to come do something.......smh I don't feel discriminated against at all. I have a beautiful life here and I am grateful for all the opportunities Germans offered me that my own country wouldn't. A great nation and at least 150 years ahead of Nigeria thanks to people like you. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 4:15pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
ileobatojo: EXACTLY! 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 4:56pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:You just spoke like a true house negro. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 4:59pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: Cll me whatever you want. We both know that you would prefer to be here, too. I would rather call Merkel my master than Jonathan. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by elobyobi: 5:01pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Mondisweets: Whereabouts art thou domiciled? |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 5:11pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Be where? You must be deluded my friend. Take a good look at me again and tell me if I'm running away from something or something is chasing me away from where I am. Jeez......Do I look like someone that has to seek for asylum? C'mon! don't wake me up please. 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by crackhaus: 5:21pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Folks on here still having a row over equality and equity, this thing isn't rocket science for God sake... |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Kimoni: 5:22pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: If you think people should be treated differently because of biological differences or whatever differences that may exist, then I wonder where equality comes in. Equality for me should not cherrypick but as soon as it starts doing that, another name should be given to the movement that adequately captures its beliefs. Your post above only just made me realize that naked feminist are not part of the real feminist movement, how was I supposed to know that when they are fighting for true gender equality as well? Where exactly is the dividing line? Nice chatting with you anyways |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 5:22pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: Let us not talk about your looks. Not interested. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Truckpusher(m): 5:30pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:obviously you need glasses, I wasn't talking about looks - it takes one mistake and all that looks becomes history. What makes you feel that I would want to be there permanently ? I've never intended being a house negro ,I still prefer being the field negro. 1 Like |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 5:30pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Kimoni: Gender equality comes in where there is unnecessary, unjust, human-made but changeable gender inequality. Biological differences cannot be changed, they are not human-made, not unnecessary and not changeable. Personally, I do not even consider them unfair. Examples of unjust, unnecessary, human-made but changeable gender inequality are situations - in which women are not allowed to have a driving license. - in which women are not allowed to vote. - in which women are excluded from their father's inheritance. - in which women are considered less intelligent and reasonable because they have a va*gina. Nice chatting with you anyways Very nice. Thank you. |
Re: Where Are The Majority Of True Nigerian Men? by Nobody: 5:31pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Truckpusher: To each their own. |
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