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Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by ezeagu(m): 7:45pm On Nov 28, 2008

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Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by ikeyman00(m): 8:29pm On Nov 28, 2008
i think there is but the difference is they do hallowean, not emm witch eyooo lipsrsealed
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Kenezi: 9:57pm On Nov 28, 2008
There were loads of tribes in Europe, and depending on your definition of tribe, there are still loads.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by anurika25(f): 11:24pm On Nov 28, 2008
What do you mean by tribe?Cause Europeans aren't one nation,just the same race.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by H2O2: 11:37pm On Nov 28, 2008
lmao this is funny grin
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by okunoba(m): 12:05am On Nov 29, 2008
in Europe people of different cultural background are called ethnic groups, while in Africa we were referred to as tribes. Most intellectuals and politicians around the world have stopped referring to Africans as tribes but rather as ethnic groups. If u read the papers or listen to the news u will hardly see the word tribe used in describing the different groups on the continent, similar to the word halfcaste which was used to describe mixed race people or rather the more politically correct saying mixed heritage but is no longer used. Half cast and Tribe have a negative connotation hence the world as moved away from their usage except Africans.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by ezeagu(m): 12:45am On Nov 29, 2008
okunoba:

in Europe people of different cultural background are called ethnic groups, while in Africa we were referred to as tribes. Most intellectuals and politicians around the world have stopped referring to Africans as tribes but rather as ethnic groups. If u read the papers or listen to the news u will hardly see the word tribe used in describing the different groups on the continent, similar to the word halfcaste which was used to describe mixed race people or rather the more politically correct saying mixed heritage but is no longer used. Half cast and Tribe have a negative connotation hence the world as moved away from their usage except Africans.

Thanks, that was the answer I was looking for.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Abiodun92(m): 8:03pm On Dec 13, 2008
There are tribes in Europe too, but not at the same level as in Africa. Im Half Nigerian, and half Finnish(Finland, Northern Europe). Here in Finland tribes aren't very visible, but usually people can tell what tribe they are from. In Finland there aren't really much tribes, some tribes are: Karelians, Tavastians, Savoans, Bothians, Satakuntians, And the Sami people wo aren't exactly counted as Finnish tribe, because they are some sort of nomadic reindeer herders, much like Fulanis in Nigeria. smiley

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Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Lita(f): 10:19pm On Jul 03, 2009
there were, and lot of them (e.g. Spain, Germany, Italy) have only relatively recently become unified nations.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Beaf: 6:24am On Jul 04, 2009
. . .It stems from colonial times and racism.
Tribe was originally used to describe groups of monkeys. Naturally, this meaning is omitted from most definitions.

. . .A group of monkeys may be referred to as a mission or a tribe. . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey

We're always happy to abuse ourselves - there is also something labourers say when they attempt to lift heavy loads; ever heard eshobe? It means "apes obey".
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by tpiah: 2:56pm On Jul 04, 2009
do 90% of the European "tribes" spend all their time fighting each other?

Or did they give it a rest.


therein lies your clue.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Lita(f): 11:13pm On Jul 04, 2009
not any more (though consider the separatists that still blow up trains in Spain), because a foreign power did not float across the seas and place them in countries that go against their histories, societies, ethnicities and geographies.  they certainly had bloody revolutions that led to the unifications of their nations, and the weaker groups lost. but without an equivalent to colonialism they have a hundred years on us.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by oyinda3(f): 11:27pm On Jul 04, 2009
Lita:

not any more (though consider the separatists that still blow up trains in Spain), because a foreign power did not float across the seas and place them in countries that go against their histories, societies, ethnicities and geographies.  they certainly had bloody revolutions that led to the unifications of their nations, and the weaker groups lost. but without an equivalent to colonialism they have a hundred years on us. 

I don't really understand what u mean. african countries are unified as well. but the damn westerners won't stop refering to us as tribal lol even we ourselves won't stop calling our land tribes. lol

tribe really has nothing to do with national unification as far as im concerned. undecided
it is used to refer to "primitive ppl" aka africans, guinea and aborigines etc it's a racist term
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by tpiah: 2:37am On Jul 05, 2009
abeg na because of all this my ayeaye is better than your ayeaye.


who cares anyway.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by agathamari(f): 7:17pm On Jul 11, 2009
in europe tribes were called clans. there were hundreds in every country. the only place you can still find the clan mentality in europe is in scotland. the kilts they wear dictate thier clans. each clan has its own pattern for the cloth used on the kilt. Holloween is the Wiccan (name for a religion prevelant throughout europe for thousands of years before christianity arrived) holiday. it is equivilant to newyears/christmas. it is the end of the year and the day the dead pass from the waking world into the spirit world.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Lita(f): 2:33am On Jul 21, 2009
@ Oyinda

I agree about the derogatory nature of the term tribe, but the separatism that can dog African states has got to largely be attributed to the arbitrary way that the nations were created in the first place. In much of Europe, nations are more homogenous and/or the winning 'race' prevails and is the majority. I personally believe that the 'state' is a fairly European and a fairly new creation and so if its not Biafra, its the Uygurs (sp?) or the Tibetans in China, etc etc.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by oyinda3(f): 3:23am On Jul 21, 2009
Lita:

@ Oyinda

I agree about the derogatory nature of the term tribe, but the separatism that can dog African states has got to largely be attributed to the arbitrary way that the nations were created in the first place. In much of Europe, nations are more homogenous and/or the winning 'race' prevails and is the majority.  I personally believe that the 'state' is a fairly European and a fairly new creation and so if its not Biafra, its the Uygurs (sp?) or the Tibetans in China, etc etc.

the separatism is no excuse for the derogatory use of the word.
I mean many countries in the middle east consist of multiple ethnic groups as well (I wonder the history of their modern nations) and they fight continuously. why aren't those groups called tribes? ex pashtun vs tajik groups in afghanistan. the pashtun group further consist of many different tribes. but you wouldn't call  pashtun itself a tribe.

"state" is neither an european creation or a new creation. maybe the english word is but the idea of "state" have existed since the conception of civilization (ppl say in mesopotamia etc)
but i do agree that many european nations are culturally homogeneous.

the yorubas were homogenous as well up until the early 17th century when it was divided into independent states, kingdoms and tribes according to many sources -such as the one i'm quoting below.
"Since the dismemberment of their empire by the Fulahs (1820-21) the country has been divided into a number of semi-independents states, chieftaincies, or kingdoms, (and tribes) hanging loosely together, or rather constantly at war, and with a feeble sense of common nationality."
http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/Y/YOR/yoruba.html

an example will be Oyo kingdom, Ekiti tribes (tribes are by definition very small group - up to a 100 or more ppl per tribe) etc but with all having a common sense of yoruba identity

i mean when a new country is patched up together with fragments of old countries or nationalities, these are still ethnic groups still not tribes. lol
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Lita(f): 3:25am On Jul 21, 2009
no disagreement from me.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by ezeagu(m): 7:38am On Jul 21, 2009
Before colonialism 'Igboland' was called the "Ebo country" which included all ethnicities in the east except the 'Moko' (Ibibio, Efik). [url=http://http://books.google.com/books?client=safari&rls=en&q=Ebo%20country]'Ebo country' google books search results[/url]
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Horus(m): 6:30pm On Jul 21, 2009

The Flugelrods

The Flugelrods (illustration) were the original Nordics before they crossbred with different races to acquire the appearance they possess presently. They are the originators of the Nordic race and live in a cavern beneath the Antarctic. Their chief is named Korg, the original Halaabites, meaning “to blush,” or Hulub. Flugelrods became known as the Neanderthals, or simply cave men, eating raw flesh, running around on fours, and living in a state of bestiality. They found their way into the inner caverns of the planet. Many of them took residence there while others in time used the trickknology  and terrorized other innocent tribes. This seed moved behind the Caucasus Mountains and up into Russia and became known as the Khazars. The Caucasians who have blonde hair and blue eyes, are descendants from the Flugelrods. Remember the Flugelrods and Canaanites (Caucasian) produce extremely low levels of melanin, both are melanin recessive beings.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Nobody: 6:32pm On Jul 21, 2009
funny. cheesy
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Dede1(m): 9:07pm On Jul 21, 2009
tpiah:

do 90% of the European "tribes" spend all their time fighting each other?

Or did they give it a rest.


therein lies your clue.

Yes, the tribes in Europe fought each other almost to extinction. The Franks, Saxons, Celtics, Anglo, Latin, Bavarians and more are tribes in Europe. However, they have all became nations. In Africa, instead of nations the tribes were meshed into geographical entities called countries which served the administrative convenience of the colonial masters.

This single action by the colonial masters has left Africa in perpetual circle socio-politico-economic retrogression including wars of attrition. If something is not done soon, the next round of wars in Africa will be very atrocious.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Nobody: 5:49am On Jul 22, 2009
Dede1:

Yes, the tribes in Europe fought each other almost to extinction. The Franks, Saxons, Celtics, Anglo, Latin, Bavarians and more are tribes in Europe. However, they have all became nations. In Africa, instead of nations the tribes were meshed into geographical entities called countries which served the administrative convenience of the colonial masters.

This single action by the colonial masters has left Africa in perpetual circle socio-politico-economic retrogression including wars of attrition. If something is not done soon, the next round of wars in Africa will be very atrocious.





quite true.

Long time- how bodi.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by bgees(m): 3:19pm On Jul 22, 2009
there are tribes all over. they might just differ in size.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Antivirus92(m): 10:47pm On Jul 27, 2012
ezeagu: Before colonialism 'Igboland' was called the "Ebo country" which included all ethnicities in the east except the 'Moko' (Ibibio, Efik). [url=http://http://books.google.com/books?client=safari&rls=en&q=Ebo%20country]'Ebo country' google books search results[/url]
before colonialism? Which means b4 the coming of the europeans. Who is that strange igbo man that use to refer to igboland as ebo country without being educated? Or do u drive joy in writting rubbish?
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Ybutterfly: 11:25pm On Jul 27, 2012
^^^^^^^^^^^^WHAT ARE YOU TALLLKING ABOUT^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THERE WERE SOME IN THE PASSSSST^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Nobody: 3:28am On Sep 30, 2012
My guess is that the landscape of Europe being mostly flat lands and surrounded by water made it much easier for invaders/rival tribes to attack and conquer each other.

Forced and consensual fusion of cultures is the reason for the extermination of tribes in most of europe.

In fact our speaking English is a perfect example as it is Germanic, Celtic, Romance, and even Asiatic in origin.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by Nobody: 2:29pm On Sep 30, 2012
here is a video depicting what happened via map.
you can see the early fusion of cultures again due to invasion and assimilation.

there is that one flaw someone pointed out about aryans being in iran in 3,500 BC
and that is true it is a faulty but everything else is pretty accurate in terms of europe
and how it changed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpD01pXsTAE
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by navygrl: 5:04am On Oct 01, 2012
Europe did and still does have tribes/clans. Some cultures still adhear to them (Celts and "gypsy" regions mostly) but they have learned that their clan/tribe heritage is just that, heritage. They remember it and honor it when appropriate, but don't segregate because of it. They have moved beyond the "I only patron ______clan/tribe businesses, hire _____ workers" and so forth. You can accomplish more together than separated by such small details.
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:02pm On Oct 02, 2012
the replies on this thread are all a joke. many of the replies are extremely silly.

in the future , please consult PAGAN JA for tribal matters.

now let me explain about europe and her tribes.

europe had tribes till around 1500 years back (max to about 1000 years back). major european tribes had names such as the Celts, Saxons, Norse, Britons, Gauls, Goths, Visigoths, Angles, Jutes, Franks, Slavs, Finnish tribes, Vikings, Danes, etc.

after the advent of christianity, christianity sought to destroy Traditional Religions / Paganism throughout europe. to achieve this christianity had to first eliminate the tribes, their culture, religion ,etc. therefore the church imposed many laws, such as prevention of arranged marriages among tribe members (so that different tribes were forced to assimilate), etc.

also this was used to promote adam and eve theory that everyone shared common ancestry from 2 humans adam and eve. once the mixed-race ofspring of different tribes further assimilated, the church created a situation whereb it "made the people of europe share common ancestry due to mixing".

today almost all of the tribes of europe are extinct, except the extreme Northern cold regions such as in FInland :THe Sami, other FInnish tribes, etc., where the tribes survived to some extent since christianity did not reach there until very late and there was much resistance against it in these areas.

as for the rest of europe, for e.g,:

todays british are a mixture of Britons, Saxons, Normans, ROmans, etc.

todays french are a mixture of Gauls, Visigoths, Fanks, etc.

and so on. .

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Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by navygrl: 12:53pm On Oct 03, 2012
^^^^^ extinct means died off. If all but a handful were then Europe would be almost empty. The tribes continued to bear children within themselves and other tribes/clans causing them to become blended. Not extinct
Re: Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:41pm On Oct 03, 2012
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i said the tribes are extinct. not the people. the very concept of the particular tribes is extinct. todays europeans arem ixed race mostly (except for the few exceptions i gave examples of).

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