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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 4:42am On Nov 28, 2014
Maybe because of liberalism in our system thats why we take the institution of the presidency with a pinch of salt..

Nigerian have never had it so bad- in the last few years,we have had it so rough,so many blood-letting,corruption,and so many vices not witnessed directly,so at any given opportunity,we take a jab at the presidency..

Maybe the jabs will make him sit-up as a president..those jabs to me are the only way we express ourselves.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Safari29: 4:44am On Nov 28, 2014
great1:


well the difference between OBJ and GEJ is that, OBJ is no longer in power.. and when he was in power, did anyone dare insult him
OBJ was abused die even by his own tribesmen

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by arresa: 4:45am On Nov 28, 2014
great1:



I am analysing this administration on the most important sectors, which is Financial and that also includes anti-corruption policies, Security, and respect of freedom of speech. .


You are still dodging the question and I hope you didn't base your views of the above factors because he failed woefully across the board.

Financial - He just devalued the Naira and he's talking about austerity measures and poor Nigerians sacrificing. or holding people accountable.

He's a poor, corrupt and incompetent administrator administrator.

Corruption - This is the most corrupt administration in the history of this country.We are talking about a leader who's not interested in transparency, he wont even declare his own assets. What is he hiding?

Nearly all the people he hired are all corrupt with many under EFCC investigation and even his loudmouth spokesman is a known and self admitted crook and swindler.

And of course his embarrassing and tragic statement that stealing is not corruption.

Security - How secure are you with terrorists carving out portions of your own country under this worthless and incompetent man's nose and the same terrorists slaughtering and killing your country men like goats everyday while this useless president goofs around unconcerned as if the oath he took to defend and protect Nigerian was a joke.


Freedom of speech? Are you for real? Are we not talking about the same silly and jobless administration with nothing better to do than cry and go ballistic at the opposition over every criticism or even advice?

You president's spokesmen are attack dogs, they insult Nigerians every time they open their mouth instead of articulating his policies and reasoning. The idiots don't respect other people's views and opinion and in fact, their response is always to attack and fight common street thugs.

Look at our law enforcement institutions, they've all been compromised and dumbed down to absurd and ridiculous level, they are worthless comedians and embarrassment.

Even your thread sounds very insulting and condescending...

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Onmason(m): 4:46am On Nov 28, 2014
Funny, who is even talking about FREEDOM under jona? Freedom like the arrest of Okorocha, Oshiomole and other APC stalwarts to prevent them from participating in elections? Freedom like barring the speaker from entering his own office? Freedom like not allowing a bringbackourgirls protest then later denying it? Freedom like parents withdrawing thheir children from schools all over N/Eeast due to insecurity? Freedom like Buhari's plane NOT permitted to land in Makurdi as in "order fom ABOVE? Freedom as in a baby IGP declaring the seat of speaker vacant and saying he does not rec him as speaker and even withdrawing his sec just fr DECAMPING to opposition? Meanwhile there is the freedom of Mimiko retaining his police sec after decamping to PDP. Freedom of Sanusi being DISGRACED out of office fr exposing the theft of our collective wealth? He was later to be arrested on the sacred day of his coronation. FREEDOM, does it exist under the present administration??

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Horus(m): 4:55am On Nov 28, 2014
MrPresident1:
Yes now. The presidency is an insitution and is greater than any single individuals. The president is the symbol of our nation pride, when we insult him, invariably, we insult ourselves.

When a President tell you that "stealing is not corruption", he is insulting all insitutions and all individuals in the nation.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by anonimi: 5:28am On Nov 28, 2014
wirinet:

A president is is king.

NO!
A president is NOT king!!
That is PRIMITIVE thinking!!!

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 6:05am On Nov 28, 2014
arresa:
Your crooked, corrupt, incompetent, dumb and worthless president insults and denigrate you and your country everyday and this is all you have to worry about?

The useless man you gave a full country to is returning to you half of your country wIth the other half in the hands of terrorists and even your own safety and security is up in the air and all you have to worry about is your incompetent president.


Some of you need some mental evaluation ASAP...

pls tink bfo u write, is he d one causing insecurity in nig?

ppl lik u caused dis insecurity in other to mak his admin ungovernable, u r stil d sem set of ppl acusing him of wat u created
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by omenka(m): 6:16am On Nov 28, 2014
arresa:
Your crooked, corrupt, incompetent, dumb and worthless president insults and denigrate you and your country everyday and this is all you have to worry about?

The useless man you gave a full country to is returning to you half of your country wIth the other half in the hands of terrorists and even your own safety and security is up in the air and all you have to worry about is your incompetent president.


Some of you need some mental evaluation ASAP...

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 6:32am On Nov 28, 2014
Bobskylo:

pls tink bfo u write, is he d one causing insecurity in nig?

ppl lik u caused dis insecurity in other to mak his admin ungovernable, u r stil d sem set of ppl acusing him of wat u created

Seems more like it is this government that is sponsoring BH. We have heard of countries like Russia under Stalin, dropping bombs on their own people (the poor helpless people) and blaming it on the enemy.

And even if he is not the one causing the insecurity in the NE, whose job is it to end or reduce it significantly? If he can't do that over a space of 3-4 years in spite the largest percentage of the budget going to the Defence Sector for three consecutive years, then he is INCOMPETENT and should step down (resign honourably) for someone more competent to take over.

The day we Nigerians begin to hold our leaders accountable, things would begin to get better. Instead of holding the government responsible for failing and disappointing majority of Nigerians, you are busy blaming the opposition for some misguided statements it made in 2011.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by wirinet(m): 7:30am On Nov 28, 2014
anonimi:


NO!
A president is NOT king!!
That is PRIMITIVE thinking!!!

Sorry, it was a typo. I meant to write "a president is not king". I have corrected it.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by STANPASQUAL(m): 7:58am On Nov 28, 2014
hifaif:


That he is the President does not give him the right to insult Nigerians daily. If he had any shame, he would have resigned, not campaigning. That is an insult to those Nigerians who lost loved ones in a very senseless manner under a selfish man who is only concerned about remaining in power at all cost.

If one of his children was among those kidnapped, would he still continue with his selfish ambition to hold on to power?

U must be either an APC supporter or a boko haram sympathiser. Resign? that is actually what the above mentioned groups intend to achieve with the chaos being unleashed on the Nigerian entity. U might be a sympathiser of none of them by choice but ur actions or rather ur posts depicts u as one. We all know who is or are the problems of Nigeria. It's not Jonathan.
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 28, 2014
hifaif:


Seems more like it is this government that is sponsoring BH. We have heard of countries like Russia under Stalin, dropping bombs on their own people (the poor helpless people) and blaming it on the enemy.

And even if he is not the one causing the insecurity in the NE, whose job is it to end or reduce it significantly? If he can't do that over a space of 3-4 years in spite the largest percentage of the budget going to the Defence Sector for three consecutive years, then he is INCOMPETENT and should step down (resign honourably) for someone more competent to take over.

The day we Nigerians begin to hold our leaders accountable, things would begin to get better. Instead of holding the government responsible for failing and disappointing majority of Nigerians, you are busy blaming the opposition for some misguided statements it made in 2011.
n u forgot dt dis insurgents r bin monitored by top shot our community.

check d usual end of d galant men v fot dis insugency eg ihejirika n co,

internationl comm r watchin d little formal coas did, d sem ppl dat created dis insurgency took d fg to accusing him of killn innocent souls urgin FG to stop killn d BH
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by fatiaanu(m): 9:46am On Nov 28, 2014
Fellow Nigerians, Let us tell ourselves the gospel truth. we are worse off than where we were 3-years ago.
Our president should do the right thing.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 11:41am On Nov 28, 2014
STANPASQUAL:


U must be either an APC supporter or a boko haram sympathiser. Resign? that is actually what the above mentioned groups intend to achieve with the chaos being unleashed on the Nigerian entity. U might be a sympathiser of none of them by choice but ur actions or rather ur posts depicts u as one. We all know who is or are the problems of Nigeria. It's not Jonathan.

Oh, they have not killed enough to make a sensitive president resign and save the country further bloodshed?

Don't worry, they will soon add your blood to it, heartless animal.

Tell me, is GEJ's ambition greater than the lives that have been lost? If his children were among those slaughtered or kidnapped, would he continue to hold on to his ambition. How many people would die for GEJ before he eventually stops the terrorists?

If I hold a gun to your son's head and tell you to drop $50,000, would you not drop it or run around for it? If GEJ had a child in the custody of BH, would he not resign if that were the ransom to pay? If your child or relative was kidnapped, I guess you wouldn't mind as long as GEJ does not bend to the antics of BH.

When prominent people get kidnapped, you see the government working tirelessly to free them but if it is the child of a poor person, we hear ediots like you telling us that they are using it to threaten the government.

WHO is threatening the government? You deserve to be in the situation of those who have lost people (especially, children) to this senseless war.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by arresa: 12:35pm On Nov 28, 2014
Bobskylo:

pls tink bfo u write, is he d one causing insecurity in nig?

ppl lik u caused dis insecurity in other to mak his admin ungovernable, u r stil d sem set of ppl acusing him of wat u created


Like I said, many of you jona fanboys spew the most ridiculous and unintelligent rubbish just like the man you are supporting..

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by emmasege: 12:36pm On Nov 28, 2014
MrPresident1:
Yes now. The presidency is an insitution and is greater than any single individuals. The president is the symbol of our nation pride, when we insult him, invariably, we insult ourselves.
Well said. It even starts from the way we address our president even behind his back. I remember visiting d US some years back and every American I met would say President Obama & First Lady Michelle in all our conversations. I found it strange & asked myself why such culture is not in Nigeria. We insult our president anyhow. Even d old farmer in Otta couldn't have taken one tenth of the insults he hurls at the incumbent, when he was in Aso rock.
Sometime ago, Gbenga Aruleba insisted that one of his guests on focus Nigeria correct himself by saying President Jonathan & not Jonathan on his programme. I wish he & his colleagues in d electronic media could instil this culture in Nigerians. I personallyrsonally think we all need attitudinal change.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by rebranded(m): 1:03pm On Nov 28, 2014
Jonathans loss in the 2015 elections will be so embarrassing

i dont see him getting up to 30% of the total votes sef (lol including PDP rigging).

he has failed, thousands of Nigerians have died while he dances around like nothing is wrong, the people are tired!

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by diepreyefrank: 1:13pm On Nov 28, 2014
wirinet:


Bulls. Yes the presidency is an institution greater than any individual - even the president himself. But the president is not the symbol of our national pride, that would be the National Flag. The president is supposed to be our employee, that is why he begs us to hire(elect) him every four years. If we are not happy with his service, we have rights not only to insult him, we should be able to fire him also. The Nigerian president is not King, he is answerable to you and me.
does that mean you should insult him?
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by lilflipnerd: 1:13pm On Nov 28, 2014
Bobskylo:

pls tink bfo u write, is he d one causing insecurity in nig?

ppl lik u caused dis insecurity in other to mak his admin ungovernable, u r stil d sem set of ppl acusing him of wat u created
Gerrout do u make any sense
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by lilflipnerd: 1:14pm On Nov 28, 2014
diepreyefrank:
does that mean you should insult him?
Go for check up u have been brainwashed
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Ovamboland(m): 1:59pm On Nov 28, 2014
great1:




the highlighted part of this quote was just a format he used to relate with the masses. but analyzing the Jonathan Administration, he has done far better than any previous presidents before him.... Do we agree? on which merits are you drawing your criticisms from??

what if GMB wins, would we still have this freedom of expression that has never been in existence since the history of our nation



Can you point to 1 (One) thing Jonathan has done that has not been done by the leaders before him that qualifies his as greater than any past leader not to talk of being the greatest.
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Ovamboland(m): 2:12pm On Nov 28, 2014
great1:


well the difference between OBJ and GEJ is that, OBJ is no longer in power.. and when he was in power, did anyone dare insult him

Were you still in Kindergarten during Obasanjo's government? most of his strident critics were from his own part of the country and of same religion. Gani, Falana, Soyinka, and journalists like Simon Kolawole, Segun Adeniyi, Rueben Abati were never short of criticism of Obsanjo during his 8 years. Today any dissension from any south-south against Jonathan's government is mobbed by the multitudes like you yet you come here touting one fake freedom of speech.

Have you forgotten the recent seizures and destruction of newspapers by security agents that the Jonathan government acknowledged was true but acceptable to them? Is that press freedom?

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Ovamboland(m): 2:29pm On Nov 28, 2014
STANPASQUAL:


U must be either an APC supporter or a boko haram sympathiser. Resign? that is actually what the above mentioned groups intend to achieve with the chaos being unleashed on the Nigerian entity. U might be a sympathiser of none of them by choice but ur actions or rather ur posts depicts u as one. We all know who is or are the problems of Nigeria. It's not Jonathan.

See the reason majority of voters in the SW voted for Jonathan is not necessarily the same reason majority of voters in SE/SS preferred him in 2011. Likewise today the reasons a large section of SW wants to vote Buhari in 2015 is not exact same reasons for his cult following in the North. It is only called convergence of aspirations.
We cannot sacrifice our life for another 4 years to shore up and support incompetence because a terrorist group also wants the same ends. It has been proven now that the reason Nigeria is poorly run is not because of the ethnic group or religion of the president. In the last 16 years southerners and christian lead Nigeria for 13 years and we are still hopeless and messed up.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by jpphilips(m): 3:34pm On Nov 28, 2014
great1:
why are Nigerians so trusting, especially when they know the people they are trusting aren't trust worthy themselves??.

Tinubu is only playing politics for his pockets, yet some youths are willing to sacrifice their lives for him... Jonathan may have turned out to be one of the most liberal/controversial president we have in Nigeria, but yet, every rat, cockroaches and caterpillers wants to take shots at him.

Its human nature, we abuse what we don't fear.

So why would a "responsible" politician use the word "by every means necessary"?? I find this comment flawed, disturbing, inciting and should not be accepted in our current political climate... Lets remember what happened in 2007 when OBJ promised a "do or die affair" and we took him for granted, we lost count on those who died as a result of his utterance.

Though the PDP was known to use thugs in the past, but have we really had such elections lately compared to when that Chimp from Ota was in power?? He rigged elections with impunity and murdered those who stood in his way. Where was Tinubu then?? did he dare say any of such words

Lets appreciate what we have for once and say enough is enough of all these incitement... Its really getting out of hand, and if we do not say something, soon we will see the result of our silence... TOTAL CHAOS

Yesterday was Amaechi, today Tinubu tomorrow might be Tompolo, maybe...


Despite our political differences lets stop dragging the highest office into mud... the whole world is watching us.


The problem I see here is that you don't have enough education to understand how an oval office works.
Nigeria has no head of state by function, "clown of state" is more appropriate.
while cutting his excellency some slacks, hope you are still running generators at home, are you buying Diesel at 155naira in a deregulated product at falling crude prices? are you still plying bad roads, how far for the security of your children? because the way Nigeria is someone can walk in to your home, r@pe your mother and walk away? in the face of all these you still think there is someone in the Oval office, naaa, you have just lost your self worth, you are just a sub human walking the face of the earth.

Go and give your life a meaning first to know when to feel embarrassed, trampled upon, humiliated and abused, only then are you fit to discuss who is culpable.

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by jpphilips(m): 3:39pm On Nov 28, 2014
Ovamboland:


See the reason majority of voters in the SW voted for Jonathan is not necessarily the same reason majority of voters in SE/SS preferred him in 2011. Likewise today the reasons a large section of SW wants to vote Buhari in 2015 is not exact same reasons for his cult following in the North. It is only called convergence of aspirations.
We cannot sacrifice our life for another 4 years to shore up and support incompetence because a terrorist group also wants the same ends. It has been proven now that the reason Nigeria is poorly run is not because of the ethnic group or religion of the president. In the last 16 years southerners and christian lead Nigeria for 13 years and we are still hopeless and messed up.

In 2011, when we campaigned for buhari, a lot of South westerners didn't believe in him, where is the sudden love for GMB coming from? is it because he merged with Tinubu?

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 3:43pm On Nov 28, 2014
jpphilips:



The problem I see here is that you don't have enough education to understand how an oval office works.
Nigeria has no head of state by function, "clown of state" is more appropriate.
while cutting his excellency some slacks, hope you are still running generators at home, are you buying Diesel at 155naira in a deregulated product at falling crude prices? are you still plying bad roads, how far for the security of your children? because the way Nigeria is someone can walk in to your home, r@pe your mother and walk away? in the face of all these you still think there is someone in the Oval office, naaa, you have just lost your self worth, you are just a sub human walking the face of the earth.

Go and give your life a meaning first to know when to feel embarrassed, trampled upon, humiliated and abused, only then are you fit to discuss who is culpable.

hasn't Nigeria always been like this?? Jungle I suppose...
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by jpphilips(m): 4:00pm On Nov 28, 2014
emmasege:
Well said. It even starts from the way we address our president even behind his back. I remember visiting d US some years back and every American I met would say President Obama & First Lady Michelle in all our conversations. I found it strange & asked myself why such culture is not in Nigeria. We insult our president anyhow. Even d old farmer in Otta couldn't have taken one tenth of the insults he hurls at the incumbent, when he was in Aso rock.
Sometime ago, Gbenga Aruleba insisted that one of his guests on focus Nigeria correct himself by saying President Jonathan & not Jonathan on his programme. I wish he & his colleagues in d electronic media could instil this culture in Nigerians. I personallyrsonally think we all need attitudinal change.


Let me tell you a little about Obama, when the bush administration ended, there was a total meltdown in the economy, big organizations failed, Job cuts ensued, anarchy etc.
The American people voted for change and today, their economy is better, because Obama did his duty as a head of state, let me ask you, is Jonathan, doing his duty as a head of state?

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by jpphilips(m): 4:02pm On Nov 28, 2014
great1:


hasn't Nigeria always been like this?? Jungle I suppose...

22.5m Nigerians voted for change in 2011, not for continuation of the jungle status quo, I ask you, do you want a change?

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by arresa: 4:28pm On Nov 28, 2014
great1:


hasn't Nigeria always been like this?? Jungle I suppose...

And Nigerians put GEJ in office, paying his salary and paying his agencies to multiply our problems or make them go away?

You are too ignorant and clueless to even participate in this kind of discussion...

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Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by jumu: 4:34pm On Nov 28, 2014
both young,old nigeria knew gej embrases corruption
Re: Are we loosing Our dignity as a Nation by insulting the Presidency?? by Nobody: 4:39pm On Nov 28, 2014
Let those that are insulting the president continue if the like. But one thing is sure, president Goodluck will surely leave that office one day. By then those insulting would have created a culture of insulting presidency in Nigeria. This has shown how unpatrotic Nigerians are by nature. You may wonder why it has not been happeniig with the past presidents. Its because social media was never as it is now in nigeria

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