Who is in charge?

America.


Remember GEJ response to questions about whereabouts of the missing $20Billion?
"America would know; it is their money"

GenBuhari:
Who is in charge?

America.


Remember GEJ response to questions about whereabouts of the missing $20Billion?
"America would know; it is their money"

Hahahaaha Amelika indeed

99100:


You cant get his point because you don't want to get his point.

His argument is simple which is don't spread false information on NL all in your desperate quest to paint GEJ black.

What is wrong info here?

Morkavictor:
Apc e-warriors always finding fault were there is none,must he do everything by himself.

Since he cannot do everything by himself, must he declare his presidential ambition himself? He should have sent Sambo.

Jonathan must be pitying himself already. Only you a failed president presiding over a failed economy.
Jonathan must lose in 2015,his only defense is lies.

A country with so many problems doesn't deserve a president who delegates the most important assignments for the survival of the country.

He has delegated the military to Chad as well;no wonder all Northerners know he has a hand in their misery and killing.He definitely is not going to win the 2015 election.Who'll vote for him? The victims of his dereliction of duties?

barcanista:
1. He Appointed Okonjo Iwaela the "Unconstitutional" Coordinating Minister of the Economy

People may not understand what this means, it simply means that the President handed over his Power as the Chief Executive Officer of the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Dr. Ngozi Okonjo Iwaela. She is the unconstitutional de facto Prime Minister that coordinates the Afairs and running of the Government and not the President. In other words, the President made himself as just "Ceremonial figure" in the government. This is the first occurrence in the history of public administration in a democratic Nigeria.

2. He Gave The Finance Minister The Power To Present Budget

On December 2013, For the first time since the return of democracy a minister and NOT the President presented National budget(2014) to the National Assembly to the amazement of the two chambers of the National Assembly. Obasanjo presented all budgets when he was in power between 1999 and 2007, Yar Adua did same when he held sway.... Unfortunately, she wasn't allowed to address Parliamentarians(as was the custom during budget presentation), she was only allowed to submit the budget and leave the chamber


3. The President and Not his Vice is supposed to Visit Kano Blast Victims

All over the world, the President of a country visits disaster victims and commensurate with families of the dead, and the survivors. Recall January, 2002 Ikeja Cantonment Blast, then Governor Bola Tinubu visited the scene and commensurated with with bereaved, and victims of the blast. The next day, January 28, 2002, then President Obasanjo visited the scene, commensurated with victims and ordered for full Military investigation on what led to the incident. He never sent VP Atiku Abubakar. Kano state is a very important state in Nigeria, and the Central Mosque is a historic one. Based on this, One ordinarily expected the President to be in Kano yesterday to sympathise with the government and people of the state on behalf of the good people of Nigeria. Rather, he sent his Vice President, whose presence is not "too significant" to stand in for him and relay the government sympathy to Kano People. But nobody represented him when he declared for 2015 Presidential poll. N

4. Nonchalance or Just Clueless?

When about 60 students were killed in the terror attack on the Federal Government College, Buni Yadi, in February 2014, President Jonathan never visited the scene to commiserate with the families of the victims. When over 80 people were killed in the first Nyanya bombing in April 2014, President Jonathan went dancing ‘Azonto’ in Kano less than 48 hours later. And when almost 300 girls were freshly abducted in Chibok, President Jonathan neither acted fast enough to rescue the girls nor visited the village. His Administration even denied anyone was abducted, until 19 days after. How do we explain a President and Commander-In-Chief declaring for a second term on Tuesday November 11, 2014, a day after a Boko Haram suicide bomber had attacked Potiskum, Yobe (Monday, November 10) killing many students?

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Do We Really Have A President and Commander-in-Chief? Who is in charge of the affairs of government?

I'm so peeved, because all the points you presented are insignificant and wholly based on propaganda. Presenting the budget by the finance minister is not against the constitution of Nigeria. If it is please quote it.

Secondly sir, I also want you to know VP or President visitation was irrelevant, but at least the heinous act of the terrorist was condemn by FG. A question for you sir, has saint GMB condemned the carnage of NYSC coppers that were brutally killed in Bauchi as result of his lost in the 2011 election? Not heard of that yet.

Further more, who should Nigerians call clueless GMB who smuggled Dikko from UK illegally even with the bilateral relationship we have with the British government, which on request he (Umaru Dikko) will be extradited.GMB is the most clueless when he personally handed power to IBB which he actually admitted lately.

Sir, even in developed countries when the security situation of a particular region is threatened. The security of the number one citizen is a top priority so you don't expect GEJ to just visits such scenes without real security details.

And please sir, try and bring up valid points that will make people oust GEJ come 2015 at the poll.

GEJ till 2015 Insha Allah
Ko ba poster sai GEJ

@ Kutunban
Mister,

I'm so peeved, because all the points you presented are insignificant and wholly based on propaganda. Presenting the budget by the finance minister is not against the constitution of Nigeria. If it is please quote it

Just like Ngwakwe, you bro appear to be clueless(I mean you are clueless). It has ALWAYS been the norm for the President and Govs to present budget, address the parliament and all other stuffs. The Minister/Commissioner only meets with Parliamentarians on committee level. In the business of Government, there are norms and there are protocols. The significance of the President or Governor appearance is enormous, because it is the President/Governor that was elected to manage the resources of the Country, the Minister is only an officer that was recruited by the President to take care of some segment on behalf of the President. The President appearing to NASS to submit budget means he is telling Nigerians how he intends to Spend manage their resources, sending the minister means "cluelessness". We are talking of business order here! Obviously, you didn't watch the 2014 budget presentation.

Secondly sir, I also want you to know VP or President visitation was irrelevant, but at least the heinous act of the terrorist was condemn by FG.

This shows you have no idea on governance.

A question for you sir, has saint GMB condemned the carnage of NYSC coppers that were brutally killed in Bauchi as result of his lost in the 2011 election? Not heard of that yet.

Buhari is not your President, he is a common citizen like you and I. His actions/inactions as a private citizen cannot be a measurement of Jonathan. But to answer your question, He did!

[s]Further more, who should Nigerians call clueless GMB who smuggled Dikko from UK illegally even with the bilateral relationship we have with the British government, which on request he (Umaru Dikko) will be extradited.GMB is the most clueless when he personally handed power to IBB which he actually admitted lately[/s].

how does Buhari come into play here in this administration?

Sir, even in developed countries when the security situation of a particular region is threatened. The security of the number one citizen is a top priority so you don't expect GEJ to just visits such scenes without real security details.

You are a confused being. President Bush visited NY and Ground Zero during 9/11, Bush and even Obama usually go to Iraq, Bush was at the site during hurricane etc. If he can't trust NSA, IGP, DSS, CDS, COAS etc to provide security for him in Kano, then why not fire them and put those you can trust?

And please sir, try and bring up valid points that will make people oust GEJ come 2015 at the poll.

I don't seek to please blind Jonathanian like you. My message is for patriotic Nigerians that seek change and the Progressives

Senseless thread

barcanista:
@ Kutunban
Mister,

Just like Ngwakwe, you bro appear to be clueless(I mean you are clueless). It has ALWAYS been the norm for the President and Govs to present budget, address the parliament and all other stuffs. The Minister/Commissioner only meets with Parliamentarians on committee level. In the business of Government, there are norms and there are protocols. The significance of the President or Governor appearance is enormous, because it is the President/Governor that was elected to manage the resources of the Country, the Minister is only an officer that was recruited by the President to take care of some segment on behalf of the President. The President appearing to NASS to submit budget means he is telling Nigerians how he intends to Spend manage their resources, sending the minister means "cluelessness". We are talking of business order here! Obviously, you didn't watch the 2014 budget presentation.

This shows you have no idea on governance.
Buhari is not your President, he is a common citizen like you and I. His actions/inactions as a private citizen cannot be a measurement of Jonathan. But to answer your question, He did!

how does Buhari come into play here in this administration?

You are a confused being. President Bush visited NY and Ground Zero during 9/11, Bush and even Obama usually go to Iraq, Bush was at the site during hurricane etc. If he can't trust NSA, IGP, DSS, CDS, COAS etc to provide security for him in Kano, then why not fire them and put those you can trust?

I don't seek to please blind Jonathanian like you. My message is for patriotic Nigerians that seek change and the Progressives

Its seems your die hard obsession to oust GEJ is beyond reasonable doubt. Mind you am a miss not a mister.

Barcanista, why won't you stop misleading the public?? Did GEJ contravene any law by allowing the finance minister to present the budget? as a matter of fact, all world over, from India to Hong Kong, to Ireland to United Kingdom (Chancellor of the Exchequer) the delivery of the budget is the statutory responsibility of the finance minister or it's equivalent.

Every time people complain that Sambo has been relegated to the background in this government, yet when he is given a task on-behalf of the government, you still kick against it. It may interest you to know that when the Colorado flood happened in US in 2013, it was vice president, Joe Biden who visited the victims and the areas... by your logic, Biden is in control of the government.

During the time of ND militants, the then president Yaradua did not visit the creeks, he sent the vice president GEJ.

datolee:
Barcanista, why won't you stop misleading the public?? Did GEJ contravene any law by allowing the finance minister to present the budget? as a matter of fact, all world over, from India to Hong Kong, to Ireland to United Kingdom (Chancellor of the Exchequer) the delivery of the budget is the statutory responsibility of the finance minister or it's equivalent.

Every time people complain that Sambo has been relegated to the background in this government, yet when he is given a task on-behalf of the government, you still kick against it. It may interest you to know that when the Colorado flood happened in US in 2013, it was vice president, Joe Biden who visited the victims and the areas... by your logic, Biden is in control of the government.

During the time of ND militants, the then president Yaradua did not visit the creeks, he sent the vice president GEJ.

I gave up on the debate when he introduced primordial sentiment to the discussions.

He said it is customary for a President to do this and that when the issues being discussed should have been on the legality of Mr President's actions and the attendant failures.

He emphasised on protocols as if a "Constitutional Democracy" is a wedding ceremony or a business meeting.

I beg of you to leave him as he exposes himself the more by trying to convince himself that he is right and we are all wrong.

datolee:
Barcanista, why won't you stop misleading the public?? Did GEJ contravene any law by allowing the finance minister to present the budget? as a matter of fact, all world over, from India to Hong Kong, to Ireland to United Kingdom (Chancellor of the Exchequer) the delivery of the budget is the statutory responsibility of the finance minister or it's equivalent.

Every time people complain that Sambo has been relegated to the background in this government, yet when he is given a task on-behalf of the government, you still kick against it. It may interest you to know that when the Colorado flood happened in US in 2013, it was vice president, Joe Biden who visited the victims and the areas... by your logic, Biden is in control of the government.

During the time of ND militants, the then president Yaradua did not visit the creeks, he sent the vice president GEJ.

You are a pathetic Mr. Man. Nigeria's constitution is a replica of the United states. The United States budget process begins when the President of the United States submits a budget request to Congress, which is the norm in Nigeria's Presidential System. How can you compare Nigeria's system of Government to the UK or Germans? You should realise that Nigerians are not uninformed as your paymaster think.

barcanista:
Who introduced Amnesty Program? Who dealt with a Stubborn Tompolo in Gbaramatu Kingdom in 2009? Under whose administration was Niger Delta Ministry and Amnesty office created? Since the death of Yar Adua, Militant resumed business. Oil bunkering and Oil theft has taken alarming height. Militants are now controlling pipelines and issuing threat to people, even the President. Your Jonathan is a failure personified

Yar dua initiated the amnesty but gej completed it. Did yar dua visited the militant at all. So u re telling me dat militant now sell oil to people nd control oil pipe. Poor propanganda
gej visited the militant, so why wont sambo do the same.

Intelligent personality my foot

Kutunban:

Its seems your die hard obsession to oust GEJ is beyond reasonable doubt. Mind you am a miss not a mister.

Whatever rocks your boat Mister/Miss

Scout60:

Yar dua initiated the amnesty but gej completed it. Did yar dua visited the militant at all. So u re telling me dat militant now sell oil to people nd control oil pipe. Poor propanganda
gej visited the militant, so why wont sambo do the same.

Intelligent personality my foot

This may be my last reply to you.
Jonathan only led the talk for Amnesty with ND Militants, just like he appointed Sambo to head talks with Boko Haram, that is clearly a strategic role and not that he was to visit some unfortunate victims. All over the World Presidents set team to see that there is peaceful talks. Hamas has his team, Israel has theirs, for America, the Secretary of State usually lead such talk and so on...bla bla bla!!! What we are talking is sympathising with victims, which is naturally led by the President(at least for most part of it). Apart from Abuja victims, President Jonathan has not visited any other bomb victims, but their Governors do. Your President will rather visit Emir Sanusi on a private visit because he(Emir) was ill.

datolee:
Barcanista, why won't you stop misleading the public?? Did GEJ contravene any law by allowing the finance minister to present the budget? as a matter of fact, all world over, from India to Hong Kong, to Ireland to United Kingdom (Chancellor of the Exchequer) the delivery of the budget is the statutory responsibility of the finance minister or it's equivalent.

Every time people complain that Sambo has been relegated to the background in this government, yet when he is given a task on-behalf of the government, you still kick against it. It may interest you to know that when the Colorado flood happened in US in 2013, it was vice president, Joe Biden who visited the victims and the areas... by your logic, Biden is in control of the government.

During the time of ND militants, the then president Yaradua did not visit the creeks, he sent the vice president GEJ.

even a paid troll will shut it after reading this post..is there still any doubt that the op and his cohorts are paid goons? I mean a couple of them have even confessed the amounts they are being paid to mislead the 'misleadables' on this forum and other Internet sites...The appalling level of misinformation, hypocrisy, propaganda and outright lies they have resorted to lately has succeeded in alienating them in the eyes of the neutral/apolitical members on the forum..

In management there is delegation of authority nd its used in government also. I am pained that the op went to school nd some call him intelligent. An intelligent mind is a critical thinker. The op is nt a critical thinker here.

barcanista:
Buhari was not President but Military Head of State. The Supreme Military Council take charge of the Day-to-Day affairs of a Military Government because the Constitution was suspended. Buhari was the face of government as at then

You seem to have this nag of defining situations to suit your needs. A military government is a totalitarian government with the Head of State serving as head of the Supreme Military Council. Was Buhari not the head of the Supreme Military Council when he was head of State?

barcanista:
You are a pathetic Mr. Man. Nigeria's constitution is a replica of the United states. The United States budget process begins when the President of the United States submits a budget request to Congress, which is the norm in Nigeria's Presidential System. How can you compare Nigeria's system of Government to the UK or Germans? You should realise that Nigerians are not uninformed as your paymaster think.

Mr intelligent, kindly show us anywhere in the web or otherwise where the president of America has gone to the chamber of the senate or the house of reps to present the budget and take questions from both chambers. If, as you claimed, that our entire constitution is from the US, then Obasanjo and Yaradua were wrong to have gone to the national assemble physically to present the budget and take questions from the chambers.. the president only need to send the budget and allow the members to debate the budget.

OP, you don't have to blame Jona na, after all gold is meant for those who knws d value! B4 OBJ approached his doorstep, Jonah was used to eating fresh fish and smoking weeds in d creeks

Iriruaga100:
In management there is delegation of authority nd its used in government also. I am pained that the op went to school nd some call him intelligent. An intelligent mind is a critical thinker. The op is nt a critical thinker here.

There are responsibilities you don't delegate. The US President will never allow a Secretary submint budget to the Congress. The USA President will never delegate the Secretary of State to stand for him in a G8 meeting. The United State President visited ground zero, visited Iraq and Afghanistan, he never placed control of the economy to the hands of a cabinet member. Nigeria style of government is similar to the united states.

My friend, I don't need you to call me intelligent, because you are not qualified to judge my level of intelligence. You are clueless yourself

LouisVanGaal:
OP, you don't have to blame Jona na, after all gold is meant for those who knws d value! B4 OBJ approached his doorstep, Jonah was used to eating fresh fish and smoking weeds in d creeks

He doesn't know his role as the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

barcanista:
This may be my last reply to you.
Jonathan only led the talk for Amnesty with ND Militants, just like he appointed Sambo to head talks with Boko Haram, that is clearly a strategic role and not that he was to visit some unfortunate victims. All over the World Presidents set team to see that there is peaceful talks. Hamas has his team, Israel has theirs, for America, the Secretary of State usually lead such talk and so on...bla bla bla!!! What we are talking is sympathising with victims, which is naturally led by the President(at least for most part of it). Apart from Abuja victims, President Jonathan has not visited any other bomb victims, but their Governors do. Your President will rather visit Emir Sanusi on a private visit because he(Emir) was ill.

And what would be your excuse when Joe Biden visited Colorado flood victims instead of the president Obama?

When people talk about Obama visiting Iraq, what they won't tell you is that he mostly visited a relatively non-volatile Baghdad. Asking a president to visit a volatile war zone is taking a suicidal risk. Next we should ask the president to take up arms to fight Boko Haram as a combatant

It is like a Governor asking one of his commisioners to present the state budget before the members of House of Assembly.


Gross irresponsibility.

GEJ is simply a mistake!

barcanista:
There are responsibilities you don't delegate. The US President will never allow a Secretary submint budget to the Congress. The USA President will never delegate the Secretary of State to stand for him in a G8 meeting. The United State President visited ground zero, visited Iraq and Afghanistan, he never placed control of the economy to the hands of a cabinet member. Nigeria style of government is similar to the united states.

My friend, I don't need you to call me intelligent, because you are not qualified to judge my level of intelligence. You are clueless yourself

Please can you tell us as clueless Putin was when he sent his Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov to represent him at UN general assembly this year? and remember that UN general assembly is the gathering of more than 140 heads of states and government.

Probably, Putin is also not in control of Russia. Stop misleading the public. It is perfectly correct for a Foreign Minister to represent his principal at such gathering, all he need do is to deliver a prepared speech.... by the way, when most of these speeches are made, the hall is usually empty as most head of states has gone on side-engagements

barcanista:
There are responsibilities you don't delegate. The US President will never allow a Secretary submint budget to the Congress. The USA President will never delegate the Secretary of State to stand for him in a G8 meeting. The United State President visited ground zero, visited Iraq and Afghanistan, he never placed control of the economy to the hands of a cabinet member. Nigeria style of government is similar to the united states.

My friend, I don't need you to call me intelligent, because you are not qualified to judge my level of intelligence. You are clueless yourself

I never said u are intelligent. If u were thinking with ur brain, u will never create this thread. Dullard with degree.

Iriruaga100:
I never said u are intelligent. If u were thinking with ur brain, u will never create this thread. Dullard with degree.

an 'educated illiterate' if you ask me..

barcanista:
This may be my last reply to you.
Jonathan only led the talk for Amnesty with ND Militants, just like he appointed Sambo to head talks with Boko Haram, that is clearly a strategic role and not that he was to visit some unfortunate victims. All over the World Presidents set team to see that there is peaceful talks. Hamas has his team, Israel has theirs, for America, the Secretary of State usually lead such talk and so on...bla bla bla!!! What we are talking is sympathising with victims, which is naturally led by the President(at least for most part of it). Apart from Abuja victims, President Jonathan has not visited any other bomb victims, but their Governors do. Your President will rather visit Emir Sanusi on a private visit because he(Emir) was ill.

You did not remind yar dua this when gej was going for the amnesty. Gej saw to the end of amnesty including building of technical school in onitsha. This one apart.
The political structure of nigeria is different from those countries you mentioned.
Buhari, rochas and kwakwaso play politics with bitterness and can even pray or help harm to befall their opponents. The main reason of this boko killing is beyond creation of sharia state rather returning the status quo to the north.
WHY DID I SAY SO:
Boko haram started in the reign of obj by yusuf. Boko haram took a mid term break during the reign of yar dua, boko haram begins immediately after the re- election of gej.
Gej visiting the north is like commiting suicide because bokos will bring out all their fighting men to make sure gej is killed that day.
Even if gej is my greatest enemy, i will never support him to dare such area.

Scout60:


You did not remind yar dua this when gej was going for the amnesty. Gej saw to the end of amnesty including building of technical school in onitsha. This one apart.
The political structure of nigeria is different from those countries you mentioned.
Buhari, rochas and kwakwaso play politics with bitterness and can even pray or help harm to befall their opponents. The main reason of this boko killing is beyond creation of sharia state rather returning the status quo to the north.
WHY DID I SAY SO:
Boko haram started in the reign of obj by yusuf. Boko haram took a mid term break during the reign of yar dua, boko haram begins immediately after the re- election of gej.
Gej visiting the north is like commiting suicide because bokos will bring out all their fighting men to make sure gej is killed that day.
Even if gej is my greatest enemy, i will never support him to dare such area.

Sorry Sir, Boko Haram never took "break" during yaradua, they were seriously dealt with by Yaradua's government around mid July, 2009. In fact, their leader was even arrested and the 2i/c shekau fled with injuries on him. They regrouped to launch another attack, this time under Jonathan's government in September 2010, months before PDP Primaries of the Aprill 2011 election. In fact, the carried out Four Attacks successfully before the 2011 election.
See the Chronicle of BH after July 2009 and before 2011 election

8 Sept 2010 - Set ablaze Bauchi central prison and freed members of the sect who were jailed there

28 January 2011 - Killed governorship candidate of the Borno State chapter of the All Nigerian Peoples Party (ANPP), Alhaji Modu Fannami Gubio and six others at Lawan Bukar ward, Maiduguri

2 March 2011 - Killed two policemen attached to the residence of a Divisional Police Officer (DPO), Mustapha Sandamu at Rigasa area of Kaduna State.

30 March 2011 - Bomb explosion in Damaturu injuring a policeman

Clearly, their interest is not returning power to the north, which power sef? when they started when a northerner was President? They went underground because of the Yaradua's curtailment. They never tried sh1t when Obasanjo was in Power, We all know what Baba can do. BokoHaram are gaining upperhand because we have a weak and incompetent C-in-C. The group is a terrorist group with political sponsors. It is for the government to unearth the sponsors

barcanista:
Sorry Sir, Boko Haram never took "break" during yaradua, they were seriously dealt with by Yaradua's government around mid July, 2009. In fact, their leader was even arrested and the 2i/c shekau fled with injuries on him. They regrouped to launch another attack, this time under Jonathan's government in September 2010, months before PDP Primaries of the Aprill 2011 election. In fact, the carried out Four Attacks successfully before the 2011 election.
See the Chronicle of BH after July 2009 and before 2011 election

8 Sept 2010 - Set ablaze Bauchi central prison and freed members of the sect who were jailed there

28 January 2011 - Killed governorship candidate of the Borno State chapter of the All Nigerian Peoples Party (ANPP), Alhaji Modu Fannami Gubio and six others at Lawan Bukar ward, Maiduguri

2 March 2011 - Killed two policemen attached to the residence of a Divisional Police Officer (DPO), Mustapha Sandamu at Rigasa area of Kaduna State.

30 March 2011 - Bomb explosion in Damaturu injuring a policeman

Clearly, their interest is not returning power to the north, which power sef? when they started when a northerner was President? They went underground because of the Yaradua's curtailment. They never tried sh1t when Obasanjo was in Power, We all know what Baba can do. BokoHaram are gaining upperhand because we have a weak and incompetent C-in-C. The group is a terrorist group with political sponsors. It is for the government to unearth the sponsors

Yar dua died on 5th may 2010. Gej took over in September they started bombing. During the reign of yar dua, there was nothing like boko haram, what we have is militant. Y didnt yar dua curtailed the militant. Only for him 2 seek amnesty.
Sorry shekau was shot on january 9 2013 nd he escaped 2 mali under the reign of ihejirika who u named boko sponsor nd gej presido.

More over yusuf based on preaching nd live in the mix of people, everybody knows where he lives rather than shekau who live in d bush nd have people shouting human right abuse for him.