roflmao!!! like clockwork!!! roflmao!!!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/113972_jos_riot_jpga541d5d9bade2165c130b7dbcee80676

Ouch!

Where Is The Love[Black eyed peas]

What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK
But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah
Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate
Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek[/b]

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)



It just ain't the same, always unchanged
New days are strange, is the world insane
If love and peace is so strong
Why are there pieces of love that don't belong
Nations droppin' bombs
Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone
So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin'
in
Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover
The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug
If you never know truth then you never know love
Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the love, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)




I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids want to act like what they see in the cinema
Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead in spreading love we spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found


People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

DavidDylan:

and what "solution" have you come up with beyond roflmao?

What more "education" do you plan to give to students who kill their own teacher for "mishandling" the quran during exams? Maybe we shld advocate they be educated in the moon.

Priceless. . .

and what "solution" have you come up with beyond roflmao?

What more "education" do you plan to give to students who kill their own teacher for "mishandling" the quran during exams? Maybe we shld advocate they be educated in the moon.

Why not educate them to eschew violence through their own imams?. If the imams get involved, be rest assured that 90% of the almajiris will have a rethink in the face of violence.


<sub>But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah
Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate

B.E.P</sub>

Fact remains, we can always sit back and wait for the next riot, watch the same killings happen for the umpteenth time, come back and rant about how education is not the needed solution in that country, call it a harebrained idea and the sorts, throw words around about how we are better than those who commit these atrocities, and then sit back and watch the cycle as always. I am good!!! 

That seems what we know to be best out here and down there. . . ROFLMAO!!! !! Nigerians !!!

RedHotChic:


<sub>But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah
Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate

B.E.P</sub>

Maybe you should take the first sentence to heart because it also applies to you.

Aparently Education does work

In Northern Nigeria, Interreligious Peacemaking Precedes Development
By Isiyaku Ahmed
Kaduna,Nigeria
08 November 2007

profile of Rev. Wuye and Imam Ashafa audio clip
Listen to profile of Rev. Wuye and Imam Ashafa audio clip

Development can not take place without peace. That’s the view of economists and analysts who’ve been watching developments from Bosnia to Iraq. It’s also true of Nigeria, the site of occasional violence between Muslims and Christians, especially in the northern and central parts of the country. Here, the two religious have co-existed – and sometimes competed – for over a century.

That’s why a Pentecostal preacher and a Muslim imam came together to try to reduce conflict. From their hometown, Kaduna, reporter Isiyaku Ahmed describes the relationship between two men who believe religious peace and cooperation are a prerequisite to sustained economic growth.

For decades, religious strife between Christians and Muslims in northern Nigeria has claimed property and lives. Recurring flare-ups between members of each group have left thousands dead, wounded, and homeless over the years.

The violence contributes to political instability, which in turn deters development. For example, providers of essential services have often been Christian migrants from the south and east of the country. But many of them have fled the area, or avoid settling there out of fear of violence. The same applies to foreign investors.

But two leading religious leaders in the region -- Rev. James Movel Wuye, a Pentecostal Christian, and his counterpart, Imam Muhammad Nurayn Ashafa, a Muslim – are doing something about it. They’re using inter-faith mediation help resolve the religious and politically motivated conflicts that have often kept resource-rich Nigeria from reaching its potential. They’ve also created two organizations for resolving inter-religious conflict in Nigeria -- the Muslim-Christian Dialogue Forum and the Inter-Faith Mediation Centre.

FIGHTING AND RECONCILIATION

Reverend James Wuye
Reverend James Wuye
Rev. Wuye says it was a particularly violent clash in the northern town of Zangon-Kataf in 1992 that brought the two together. In that incident, the mostly Muslim Hausa and the predominantly Christian Kataf ethnic group, fought pitched battles in a dispute over the relocation of the community’s main market. From there, killings spread to other parts of Kaduna State.

Muslims fighters killed Rev. Wuye’s bodyguard and cut off the reverend’s right arm, leaving him for dead. At the same time, Christian fighters murdered a man known as Ashafa’s mentor and spiritual leader. Both men took the events as a sign from God to collaborate as peacemakers.

Rev. Wuye’s initial reaction at the time wasn’t so different from that of other fighters -- vengeance. In particular, he wanted to kill Imam Ashafa, one of the leaders of the Muslim militias. That may well have happened, had he not been for the sermon of a preacher.

"For three years I nursed the ambition of killing Imam Ashafa," he said, "But then, I attended a program aimed at preaching the gospel to non-Christians, and there I was told by the moderator, [who] said you cannot preach Jesus Christ with hate. Then, it reawakened my conscience. [I realized] that as a Christian, I need to love even when I feel pain."

Imam Mohammed Ashafa
Imam Mohammed Ashafa
Imam Ashafa heard similar words on forgiveness in his mosque as well. He then went to visit Rev Wuye’s sick mother in the hospital.

The two men finally met in 1995 at the urging of a civil leader. They agreed to work out some sort of dialogue promoting mutual understanding and respect.

Imam Ashafa proposed a public debate, which evolved into a forum on the concepts of salvation and forgiveness in Christianity and Islam. It took a year to arrange the event and find a venue willing to host two militant youth groups from different religions. "People came with daggers in their pockets that day." Rev. Wuye told the press. "Both parties came prepared for the worst."

But there was no violence – the forum was a success, and since then, the two men have backed a series of interventions and workshops focusing on the groups peace-making verses from the two faiths. They include the a verse from the book of Matthew in the Bible “In everything, do unto others what you would have them do to you.” And for Muslims, the fortieth Hadith (an-Nawahi, 13):, or sayings of the Prophet from the Koran: “Not one of you is a believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.”

The effort is focused on enlightening the public – in particular, militant youth, vigilantes and the hizbah, or religious police who enforce Islamic law, or Sharia, in some northern states.

They've also produced a weekly series on local television, quoting passages of the Koran and the Bible that show common ground between Islam and Christianity.

THE PEACE STRATEGY

To prevent religious crises, Rev. Wuye and his partner Mallam Ashafa have developed a multi-pronged approach that they say is both preventive and curative.

For prevention, they use an early warning mechanism that alerts the community to trouble signs and ways to control a contentious situation before it spreads. The mechanism includes improved connections between government security officers, community leaders and others involved in calming a violent situation.

They also work to achieve signed peace agreements between prominent religious leaders and state or local government. The effort includes working with violent youths through Christian and Islamic teachings that emphasize forgiveness and non-violence.

Imam Ashafa says Islam is at the heart of forgiveness. He says learning how to engage in peace comes when one submits to a higher power, the ultimate truth. The Imam says Islam presents its followers with free choice. But he says he favors what he calls the more “courageous” choice, which involves positive thinking and forgiveness, even when angry.

Ashafa told a follower that “[faith] is the strongest nuclear weapon. You can use religion and spirituality to reconstruct the world.” He suggests that the UN work with religious leaders to get involved in the peace process. And he condemns those who use religion to justify atrocities.

Ashafa says he’s a fundamentalist at heart, but rejects the extremism connected with fundamentalism. He says the attitude “if you are not with me, you are against me” is wrong and leads to disrespect for other cultures and traditions.

He cites passages of the Muslim Holy Book, the Koran which support respect for other cultures and religions. For example, chapter 49 of the Koran states “O mankind, We created you from a single male and female. And made you into nations and tribes, that you many know each other….” He says the Prophet said in his farewell message “An Arab is not superior over the white; neither is the white over the black, you are all from Adam and Adam is from dust.….”

Both men say forgiveness includes mediation and a time for offenders to reflect on their actions before being given an opportunity to make amends. If no amends are made, the feuding parties can ask the state to step in.

MODELS OF RECONCILIATION

Rev. Wuye says respect for both religions is at the center of their model for reconciliation.

"Our module [looks] at the reality on the ground before passing out what is called a strategic action plan. [For] all these things we use religion to appeal to people at the end. Whatever you do in Africa or anywhere else in the world, [we] use divinity [to persuade] top people. Because of the respect for divinity and God, they abide."

The workshops and interventions have helped reduce violence.

In August 2002, Reverend Wuye and Imam Ashafa persuaded 10 senior religious leaders from each faith in Kaduna to sign a peace declaration that reduced the ongoing protests connected with the Miss World contest. Violence surged when a columnist wrote that the Prophet would likely support the pageant, an event some Muslims felt was indecent. More than 2,000 people died in the rioting that followed in Kaduna and Abuja.

In 2006, the two leaders were invited to Kenya to help solve a religious dispute. The two communities were on opposite sides over an effort to grant greater recognition to Islamic law, or Sharia, in a new Kenyan constitution. They held a high-level Christian/Muslim consultative forum in Mombassa and issued a strategic action plan for peace.

Their peace model is also in use in the predominantly Christian and animist Southern Sudan. It is rebuilding after long years of war against the largely Muslim and Arabicized north.

Rev. Wuye says both he and Imam Ashafa are encouraging greater Africa Union intervention in the genocide in Sudan’s western region of Darfur, where government support for the “supporter of APC” militias has led to the killings of hundreds of thousands of black Darfuris. “We condemn it in totality,” Rev. Wuye told VOA. “We sent an SOS message to former Nigerian president Olusegun Obasanjo to send more troops to that region, and to put pressure on the Khartoum government to behave humanely and to stop the war and all the activities that go with it.”

The two men went to Bosnia in late October to meet with religious leaders and discuss the inter-religious prejudices that led to war there in the late 1990s. The Nigerian leaders say they wanted to show that Bosnians, too, can reconcile once they talk and confront their pain.

Last year rioting began over the publication of Dutch cartoons that were seen as mocking Islam by equating it with terrorism. But Rev. Wuye asked Christian leaders to go on radio to condemn the drawings. He also asked Muslim leaders to accept the condemnation and to call for calm in their towns. As a result, the violence did not spread to some parts of the north.

Rev. Wuye discussed the 1994 genocide in Rwanda against the minority Tutsi and politically moderate Hutu. He said, “As a Christian, I felt ashamed of myself and religious colleagues who took sides during the war…. and who could have explored religious provisions to prevent the genocide or stop it.” In Rwanda, both Hutu and Tutsi are nominally Roman Catholic. Rev. Wuye and Imam Ashafa are working with the US-based NGO Search for Common Ground in Burundi to help alleviate tensions between Hutu and Tutsi there.

DANGERS

In 2004, Rev. Wuye and Imam Ashafa were threatened during their visit to Kadarko, a Christian-dominated settlement in Wase, Plateau state. They were there to help mediate a politically motivated religious dispute. The violence centered on efforts by Christians in Kadarko to strengthen local government in response to growing Muslim influence in the area.

Fighting broke out and Rev. Wuye says Christian militias would have killed them if not for the intervention of a solder who acted as a human shield to protect them.

THE FUTURE

The two religious leaders have trained four other Christian and Islamic religious leaders in Nigeria to help with mediation efforts. They are based at the Muslim-Christian Dialogue Forum, which has offices in Kaduna, Jos, Oweri and Lagos.

The Kaduna-based Interfaith Mediation Centre also is also encouraging joint ventures between Muslim and Christian communities. Some of the projects including rice milling, groundnut oil processing, strawberry farming, and potential economic ventures that would bring women together.

Rev. Wuye says they are working to set up an inter faith-mediation structure among Nigerian living overseas.

Rev. Wuye told VOA, “We know even among Nigerians living [abroad], they sometimes align [themselves] along sectional, geographic, and religious divides. The unity for Nigeria in the Diaspora will help our work tremendously and with their collaboration, we can gain more ground.

"[After training others],' he said, "we intend to reduce our activity to maybe [create a] consultancy, while younger generations continue [our task]. We are looking for support to complete our "Peace Village" on 14 hectares of land, and our Interfaith Peace Institute. In the next 20 years, we [hope we] will have replicated [our efforts] in Africa and in other parts of the world. [We hope to influence] the United Nations and also set up such structures in the Commonwealth of Nations."

In recognition of their work, the two men have been given a number of awards: the Peace Activist Award of the New York-based Tanenbaum center for interreligious understanding, the Heroes of Peace Award by Burundi, and the Apostle of Peace Award by the Catholic Youth Organization of Nigeria. They are also fellows of the Washington-based Ashoka program, which recognizes what it calls social entrepreneurs, those who come up with innovative solutions to help improve the lives of millions of people.

The two men say their years of dialogue have helped them gain respect for each other and overcome misconceptions. Among their differences: Imam Ashafa questioned why his companion worships Jesus as if he were the Divine, rather than “merely” a messenger for the Divine. Reverend Wuye says he’s perplexed about his friend’s five a.m. prayers. But the two leaders say they’re brothers and can joke about some of the differences that used to divide them. Criticism and commentary is kept on a friendly level, one that would not divide a family, much yet a country.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2007-11/2007-11-08-voa54.cfm?CFID=74501120&CFTOKEN=67662647

Kobojunkie:

Fact remains, we can always sit back and wait for the next riot, watch the same killings happen for the umpteen time, come back and rant about how education is not the needed solution in that country, throw words around about how we are better than those who commit these atrocities, and then sit back and watch the cycle as always. I am good!!! that seems what we know to be best out here and down there. . . ROFLMAO!!!

somebody is finally stating the hard facts
this is sad but the truth is that we are waiting for the next riot
truth hurts

toshmann:

somebody is finally stating the hard facts
this is sad but the truth is that we are waiting for the next riot
truth hurts

You are right but methinks the solution begins in what is written in this report http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2006/04/24/they-do-not-own-place-0

All these indigene nonsense has to stop if we are to remain a country else, what the f@%k are we still doing using the same passport? Murder should be punished and this discrimination must stop before we can say with confidence that this riot would not happen again.

toshmann:

somebody is finally stating the hard facts
this is sad but the truth is that we are waiting for the next riot
truth hurts

But what do we do to stop such future indifferences?

FYI The Muslims suffered more casualties than other ethnic groups.
They burned down a Mosque with a couple hundred people in it.
This is justice for some you I guess

Fact remains, we can always sit back and wait for the next riot, watch the same killings happen for the umpteenth time, come back and rant about how education is not the needed solution in that country, call it a harebrained idea and the sorts, throw words around about how we are better than those who commit these atrocities, and then sit back and watch the cycle as always. I am good!!!

Sad truth.

you're speaking for yourself and your interest group but claiming to be speaking for Yorubas.

At the same time you're also speaking on behalf of Igbos.


Check your previous posts.

@tpia,
can't somebody speak for both groups at the same time? Must everything be polarized?

Its far easier to play the blame game than to face up to what most of us actually are.



by the way, have you noticed the way you're rough riding over other people who don't share your views on this matter?

You seem to imagine you're speaking for all Yoruba people. What gives you that impression,really?

You may be speaking for Igbos, but Yorubas don't practice their own politics like that. With Igbos, when you speak to one, you're assumed to be speaking to all. With Yoruba, you only speak for yourself and your political godfather. And there are many godfathers, so different people speak for their different interests within Yorubaland.

@tpia, can you expantiate please? So it means that because i'm igbo, I stand behind whatever Quotasystem whom i suspect is not even igbo is saying?. You are a very foolish hog with a reptilia brain.

ow11:

You are right but methinks the solution begins in what is written in this report http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2006/04/24/they-do-not-own-place-0

All these indigene nonsense has to stop if we are to remain a country else, what the f@%k are we still doing using the same passport? Murder should be punished and this discrimination must stop before we can say with confidence that this riot would not happen again.

How can you achieve all that without ensuring that these people are educated to understand that there are rules and consequences when these rules are broken?

How can you stop this if you do not make education appealing enough to draw the youth away from the barbaric mentality that these adults push in their faces?

But hey!! We can always wait for the next riot to rant and rave again !!! I sort of enjoy watching people pretend to loose their tops over these things but turn around to speak up against the very possible solutions that may exist, solutions that will potential not BRING HARM to those on the either side.

ow11:

You are right but methinks the solution begins in what is written in this report http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2006/04/24/they-do-not-own-place-0

All these indigene nonsense has to stop if we are to remain a country else, what the f@%k are we still doing using the same passport? Murder should be punished and this discrimination must stop before we can say with confidence that this riot would not happen again.

Haha so true, someone was mentioning this to me, what is the point of an indigine certificate?
There are people that can not speak their mother tongues because they don't know that part of Nigeria, yet they go still claim am. Indigine certificate is rubbish.

This is terrible. . . . . . .When would Nigerians stop this senseless violence??
Poverty has reduced the ordinary man to a barbarian!!
What a SHAME!!!

@kobo

What about the educated Hausa people that support this violence. If you bothered to read that link you would see how this separation of tribes causes us to fight for no reason. Merit is thrown out of the window in support of 'brotherhood'. This mentality lies beyond holding a WAEC certificate. Didn't you meet MCUsman and other educated Nigerians that cannot see beyond their tribe. Many Nigerians generally do not regard someone whose parents do not speak their own language and our government encourages this through silly policies that encourages separation and we have all grown up seeing ourselves as different.

What is the point of federal allocation?Why can't states become self sufficient or at the least merge with other states to improve their local economy. People agitate for state creation because of allocation and nothing more. The election fraud was done because of access to allocation but If these economies were built by the common man, the vampires would attack anyone who stole their money and not their so called non-indigene Nigerians.

States would encourage people to come to their places to build the local economy and would see no reason to alienate anyone. Merit would be the watchword and not tribe because there is no more free lunch!

@Josboy and Co,
Learn to soft pedal when people are hurting. You may keep your ideas aside for now till people get over this thing. It's annoying when somebody is putting your shortcomings in your face while you are still mourning. We lost people in this mayhem. I lost a dear friend and big client during the last riot in kano and it was painful. He was from Kogi state and left behind an aged mother, a wife and two babies. I still see his family anytime I visit Abuja and give any support I can so I know what these families are going through now. The least you can do is mellow them down. I bet you my mood will not be like this if my sister that works in abuja was killed or my uncle that is a professor in Unijos lost any member of his family. But they are all safe.  The idea of exchanging lives for political positions in Nigeria is absurd.

@kobo

What about the educated Hausa people that support this violence. If you bothered to read that link you would see how this separation of tribes causes us to fight for no reason. Merit is thrown out of the window in support of 'brotherhood'. This mentality lies beyond holding a WAEC certificate. Didn't you meet MCUsman and other educated Nigerians that cannot see beyond their tribe. Many Nigerians generally do not regard someone whose parents do not speak their own language and our government encourages this through silly policies that encourages separation and we have all grown up seeing ourselves as different.

What is the point of federal allocation?Why can't states become self sufficient or at the least merge with other states to improve their local economy. People agitate for state creation because of allocation and nothing more. The election fraud was done  because of access to allocation but If these economies were built by the common man, the vampires would attack anyone who stole their money and not their so called non-indigene Nigerians.

States would encourage people to come to their places to build the local economy and would see no reason to alienate anyone. Merit would be the watchword and not tribe because there is no more free lunch!

I think they are advocating for education because illiteracy goes hand in hand with poverty. If these  mallams are educated, they will not be poor and  majority of them will pipe down because they are not bad people by nature besides, education makes you more liberal. The evil ones will still remain but will not be powerful enough to subdue the good ones.  Why do you think we have more liberal white people in the world than other races? It is because they are more educated than the black, oriental, latino etc. Other racial groups are more racist than the whites in these latter days because of the education factor. If the north remains backwards in terms of education, it means by 2050, they will have the highest number of tribalist tpia's in Nigeria than any other ethnic group.

@Quotasystem,

Are you mad? People were killed and you are here posting nonsense. I'm an Igbo like you but you read how corpers were killed, yet you weren't touched. What is wrong with you and Igbo this Igbo that. Quite alright, Igbos are being killed often but do we because of that feel satisfied when innocent people are killed from other tribes? Do you know if those killed felt happy during all those killings when they were alive?

Go and ask youself some questions. See that pathetic picture posted by Red Hot. My heart bleed for Nigeria and their sensless killings.

oh my God!

@Quotasystem,

Are you mad? People were killed and you are here posting nonsense. I'm an Igbo like you but you read how corpers were killed, yet you weren't touched. What is wrong with you and Igbo this Igbo that. Quite alright, Igbos are being killed often but do we because of that feel satisfied when innocent people are killed from other tribes? Do you know if those killed felt happy during all those killings when they were alive?

Go and ask youself some questions. See that pathetic picture posted by Red Hot. My heart bleed for Nigeria and their sensless killings.

Quotasystem is one big schmuck whom i suspect seriously is not even igbo because his obsession with this igbo thing is sickening. 3 young men and many others were killed like a llama and he is here talking about igbo affairs. Something is seriously wrong with the guy. He must be a mental case because many igbos i know don't reason that way.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/113989_Jos_riots1_jpge184a186c10d12c932c1f34e981893ce

They can burn the whole properties down to vent their anger for all I care but just dont kill people. No be money? We can always bounce back although its not the best way to get rich but this idea of killing people is absurd and very very cold. Imagine what the parents of these young men will be going through now.

Something Northern Nigeria must change.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2008/08/26/inside.africa.b.nigerian.hip.hop.cnn?iref=videosearch

Here is another one. Sharia Law should not be allowed in a free republic

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2008/10/28/inside.africa.a.nigerian.women.writers.cnn?iref=videosearch

@ kobojunkie nd Alloy,
Gr8 contributions.
May the gd Lord grant d families of d departed d fortitude to bear this irreparable loss.
Calls 4 sober reflections as a nation. Very sad, more sad indeed.
God bless

@kobo

What about the educated Hausa people that support this violence. If you bothered to read that link you would see how this separation of tribes causes us to fight for no reason. Merit is thrown out of the window in support of 'brotherhood'. This mentality lies beyond holding a WAEC certificate. Didn't you meet MCUsman and other educated Nigerians that cannot see beyond their tribe. Many Nigerians generally do not regard someone whose parents do not speak their own language and our government encourages this through silly policies that encourages separation and we have all grown up seeing ourselves as different.

What is the point of federal allocation?Why can't states become self sufficient or at the least merge with other states to improve their local economy. People agitate for state creation because of allocation and nothing more. The election fraud was done because of access to allocation but If these economies were built by the common man, the vampires would attack anyone who stole their money and not their so called non-indigene Nigerians.

States would encourage people to come to their places to build the local economy and would see no reason to alienate anyone. Merit would be the watchword and not tribe because there is no more free lunch!

Maybe you should take the first sentence to heart because it also applies to you.

Aloy.Emeka:

@tpia,
can't somebody speak for both groups at the same time? Must everything be polarized?



@tpia, can you expantiate please? So it means that because i'm igbo, I stand behind whatever Quotasystem whom i suspect is not even igbo is saying?. You are a very foolish hog with a reptilia brain.

can you shut up and get tpia out of your poor excuse of a brain.

I'm explaining something to David- do you mind?

All this acting as if Yorubas and Igbos have the same worldview is one of the root causes giving rise to people like you. They dont, and the sooner you get that through your thinking faculty, the better.

are you just seeing Quotasystem on nairaland or what rubbish are you trying to prove here.

ow11:

@kobo

What about the educated Hausa people that support this violence. If you bothered to read that link you would see how this separation of tribes causes us to fight for no reason. Merit is thrown out of the window in support of 'brotherhood'.

Educating the people does not necessarily mean sending them all to get western style education. Even uneducated people who live out west understand, hence are educated in the fact that there are laws and when they go against those laws, there are consequences. I bet you, if you remove the shields out in western countries, it will not take long for even the college educated ones to act like animals. Just that this society is built on rules and everyone is made to understand that it does not matter how you personally feel about the next man, just do not cross the line and think you will get away with it.

I am not advocating in support of ‘brotherhood’ here either. I mean I don’t believe we will ever get all Nigerians to live with that but we can push to FORCE people to learn to live with each other to suffer the consequence. I could not care less if the next man is anti-yorubas or anti-hausas. As long as you know that if you infringe on the rights of anyone, you head pays for it.

ow11:

This mentality lies beyond holding a WAEC certificate. Didn't you meet MCUsman and other educated Nigerians that cannot see beyond their tribe. Many Nigerians generally do not regard someone whose parents do not speak their own language and our government encourages this through silly policies that encourages separation and we have all grown up seeing ourselves as different.

And yes, I have met PhD holding Nigerians who spew some of the worst vile against other Nigerians. I mean you do not need to look far to find them because they are on nairaland as well. Worse sort are those that believe the fact that they can claim to be more educated than others around, means the VILE they spew against others is the core of Reason itself. Nothing as bad as trying to get someone who is too blind too see that maybe you could have a point. LoL

I myself do not understand why government should be in the business of encouraging such policies. But guess what? It seems to work in favor of government though. I mean look around you, the longer they can have us focus on our differences, and the more time they have to continue their pillaging! Roflmao!!
Amazing how you can get most all riled up when you mention someone from another tribe trying to step on his toes, but gauge the reaction from the same Nigerian when you mention how government has robbed his children of their inheritance.  Be happy if you get even a mere sigh from the same. Lol AMAZING!!

ow11:

What is the point of federal allocation?Why can't states become self sufficient or at the least merge with other states to improve their local economy. People agitate for state creation because of allocation and nothing more. The election fraud was done because of access to allocation but If these economies were built by the common man, the vampires would attack anyone who stole their money and not their so called non-indigene Nigerians.

States would encourage people to come to their places to build the local economy and would see no reason to alienate anyone. Merit would be the watchword and not tribe because there is no more free lunch!

I am in no way in support of the system as it is. All the problems we have today is simply due to the fact that we as a people are not educated enough to understand that the reason we continue to live in hell is simply because we continue to allow ourselves be distracted by the small issues, while those we are supposed to control, continue to use us. The average Nigerian does not understand his right as a human being, let alone as a citizen of a democratic country. Most of the Nigerians you meet on the street today do not understand that even understand that it is blood that they do not have to settle for life without the basics.

I have not completely given up on the old generation, but without education, there is no way we can change the minds of the young to make sure that this barbaric mentality dies with the old. And not until we start doing all we can to convert them, we might see this get worse and fast.

@ Kobojunkie

Some people are hell bent to see the dissolution of Nigeria. Reprisal and deep seeded hatred for a failed state attempt in the form of Biafra.

@post
may their souls rest in perfect peace and may GOD give their families the fortitude to bear their irreparable loss, having said that i believe in looking for and solving underlying problems rather than reacting to rethorics and sound bites, these corpers and all the others that died were killed by ordinary foot soldiers given a command to cause mayhem, it is grossly unreasonable to blame hausas as if all the hausas in nigeria gathered together and decided to kill every other tribe, like someone said in page 2 of this thread,the big politicians that gave these almajiris/thugs the order to cause mayhem are in their houses and these in my opinion should be the focus, the almajiris/thugs are ignorant,illiterates who have been religiously brainwashed and will do anything when ordered to do so, the press,citizens and northerners who have refused to be labeld as what they r not should make the effort to unmask the big men/women behind these stuffs or the same vicious circle will keep repeating itself as sad as that is to say,what these people want is what most people on here are doing which is confusion and blame trading including blaming one tribe as the devil perpetuators,

more education and awareness should be brought to the northern almajiris,this will wean them off the strangle hold of the big men who give them daily food and order them to commit atrocities, and i can bet you they will be as good and enlightened as any other tribe, education is power

@ quotesystem.See Look at this transgendered shegirl71 Orobo with her fantom degree while what is while doing that clause butchering english[/b[i]] English [/i]language. Typical [b]Yoruba Yoruba orobo. Will be qucik quick to tell you how Yorubas Yoruba's are the most educated in nigeria[/b]Nigeria [b]where as While on the contrary.JAMB statistics ot[b]says [/b] Reads or shows otherwise[b] ,[/b]while [b]rooting I dont knw how to correct that[/i]for the Igbos [i]Igbo's[/i]as the most educated in nigeria. Nigeria[b] First[/b][i]why is that neccesary? to complain about my english English [/i]which has no fault, [i]Errorswhere as whereas the transgendered Shegirl71 can't even [/b]write correct spellings[/b]and you can right? not to talk I[i]f i were you i will never use that clause again[/i].of correct sentences.
Why the paragraph?
Doesn't even know where and when to use commas and fulstops. Fullstops.Doesn't even know that after comma or fulstop, you have to make a space for easy reading by other readers. no you dont leave a space you start with a capital letter. And it should be leave space not make space The transgendered Why The? Shegirl71 will be first to tell you "i am a graduate" [b]Oh no i am not,are you[/b]? and i ask, is this nigeria's should be Nigeria educational system's product? Orobo. What is that?

I wonder between a Yoruba and Igbo, who will feel inferior to the other.Oh please the Igbo's do that is why the likes of tht 19yr old physco killed some of them Why didn't your Yoruba NYSC's Yoruba Nysc candidate reject the northern cities where they were posted? There is what is called, Really please tell me about it. nigerian Nigerian factor. They can easily scheme for change of location scheme to change location and they would have gotten it so easily. Akpa dorty.[/b]What is that?

Oh my Ok i have taken to my corrections now lets deal with yours,
I see you are not a very big fan of expressions,I really don't blame you.
If i were to make corrections to your post it will be very obvious that you don't know the basics of English language.Ok i did.
I could be Igbo,Yoruba or even Hausa you cant tell.
I have written b4 and i will write again your head is separated from your mind.
Go back to prep school and while u are there, please help me ask [b]THT THING (ikeyman or something)you knw who,I mean your Mini man,tht who gave it permission to exist.

Few tips when you end a sentences with FULLSTOP the next line should start with a capital letter
And most importantly it is shegirl71 not transgendered.



You have no respect for the dead,read 6lines from this line and you will know why.