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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by showafrica(m): 5:19am On Dec 19, 2014
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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by openmine(m): 6:02am On Dec 19, 2014
Melchizedek was the king of Salem and a priest for God the Most High . He met Abraham when Abraham was coming back after defeating the kings. That day Melchizedek blessed him.


from bolded,its very clear that God was NEVER Melchizedek...unless we want it to sound this way...
Melchizedek God was the king of Salem and a priest for God the Most High grin



2 Then Abraham gave him a tenth of everything he had.
The name Melchizedek, king of Salem, has two meanings. First, Melchizedek means “king of justice.” And “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”


3 No one knows who his father or mother was or where he came from. And no one knows when he was born or when he died. Melchizedek is like the Son of God in that he will always be a priest.
the bolded says it ALL
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nostradamu(m): 6:55am On Dec 19, 2014
Goshen360:


Having neither beginning OF DAYS = The day one is born
nor end of life = The day someone dies

So, put it together, the day he was born wasn't records in the genealogy\missing, so also the day he died. But we all know Christ had a day he was born and also the day he died. So, he is not Melchizedek.

Ur the kind of people we need on NL.........ur point seems sennsible!
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by iamord(m): 7:05am On Dec 19, 2014
Posts on here show that a lot of Christians on here lack understanding about the case at hand but still feel. They know and cannot be corrected.

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by matrix789: 8:22am On Dec 19, 2014
Melchizedek has no Father and mother(eternal nature)
has no beginning and ending(Alpha and Omega)
has no genealogy....(Not Created)
Only one person has got this attribute THE ALMIGHTY GOD(Second Person of the Trinity)
Col 2:9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Hayurdayle(m): 8:39am On Dec 19, 2014
Jesus has been existing(infact before creation) before He came in form of man, read Jn 1:1-3, 14. 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Pls don't underage Jesus oo
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Maximus85(m): 8:59am On Dec 19, 2014
No predecessors or successors. Paul clearly indicates that perfection was unattainable through the Levitical priesthood, thus necessitating the appearance of a priest “according to the manner of Melchizedek.” He points out that Christ sprang from Judah, a nonpriestly tribe, but, citing Jesus’ similarity to Melchizedek, shows that he became a priest, “not according to the law of a commandment depending upon the flesh, but according to the power of an indestructible life.” Aaron and his sons became priests without an oath, but the priesthood conferred on Christ was ordained by an oath of Jehovah. Also, whereas the Levitical priests kept dying and needed to have successors, the resurrected Jesus Christ “because of continuing alive forever has his priesthood without any successors” and, therefore, is able “to save completely those who are approaching God through him, because he is always alive to plead for them.”​—Heb 7:11-25.

How was it true that Melchizedek had ‘neither beginning of days nor end of life’?

Paul isolated an outstanding fact respecting Melchizedek, in saying of him: “In being fatherless, motherless, without genealogy, having neither a beginning of days nor an end of life, but having been made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually.” (Heb 7:3) Like other humans, Melchizedek was born and he died. However, the names of his father and mother are not furnished, his ancestry and posterity are not disclosed, and the Scriptures contain no information about the beginning of his days or the end of his life. Thus, Melchizedek could fittingly foreshadow Jesus Christ, who has an unending priesthood. As Melchizedek had no recorded predecessor or successor in his priesthood, so too Christ was preceded by no high priest similar to himself, and the Bible shows that none will ever succeed him. Furthermore, although Jesus was born in the tribe of Judah and in the kingly line of David, his fleshly ancestry had no bearing on his priesthood, nor was it by virtue of human ancestry that the offices of both priest and king were combined in him. These things were as a result of Jehovah’s own oath to him.

A view that appears in the Targums of Jerusalem and that has gained wide acceptance among the Jews and others is that Melchizedek was Noah’s son Shem. Shem was then alive and even outlived Abraham’s wife Sarah. Also, Noah specifically blessed Shem. (Ge 9:26, 27) But this identification has not been confirmed. The fact remains that Melchizedek’s nationality, genealogy, and offspring are left undisclosed in the Scriptures, and that with good reason, for he could thus typify Jesus Christ, who by Jehovah’s sworn oath “has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.”​—Heb 6:20.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Maximus85(m): 9:05am On Dec 19, 2014
No predecessors or successors. Paul clearly indicates that perfection was unattainable through the Levitical priesthood, thus necessitating the appearance of a priest “according to the manner of Melchizedek.” He points out that Christ sprang from Judah, a nonpriestly tribe, but, citing Jesus’ similarity to Melchizedek, shows that he became a priest, “not according to the law of a commandment depending upon the flesh, but according to the power of an indestructible life.” Aaron and his sons became priests without an oath, but the priesthood conferred on Christ was ordained by an oath of Jehovah. Also, whereas the Levitical priests kept dying and needed to have successors, the resurrected Jesus Christ “because of continuing alive forever has his priesthood without any successors” and, therefore, is able “to save completely those who are approaching God through him, because he is always alive to plead for them.”​—Heb 7:11-25.

How was it true that Melchizedek had ‘neither beginning of days nor end of life’?

Paul isolated an outstanding fact respecting Melchizedek, in saying of him: “In being fatherless, motherless, without genealogy, having neither a beginning of days nor an end of life, but having been made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually.” (Heb 7:3) Like other humans, Melchizedek was born and he died. However, the names of his father and mother are not furnished, his ancestry and posterity are not disclosed, and the Scriptures contain no information about the beginning of his days or the end of his life. Thus, Melchizedek could fittingly foreshadow Jesus Christ, who has an unending priesthood. As Melchizedek had no recorded predecessor or successor in his priesthood, so too Christ was preceded by no high priest similar to himself, and the Bible shows that none will ever succeed him. Furthermore, although Jesus was born in the tribe of Judah and in the kingly line of David, his fleshly ancestry had no bearing on his priesthood, nor was it by virtue of human ancestry that the offices of both priest and king were combined in him. These things were as a result of Jehovah’s own oath to him.

A view that appears in the Targums of Jerusalem and that has gained wide acceptance among the Jews and others is that Melchizedek was Noah’s son Shem. Shem was then alive and even outlived Abraham’s wife Sarah. Also, Noah specifically blessed Shem. (Ge 9:26, 27) But this identification has not been confirmed. The fact remains that Melchizedek’s nationality, genealogy, and offspring are left undisclosed in the Scriptures, and that with good reason, for he could thus typify Jesus Christ, who by Jehovah’s sworn oath “has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.”​—Heb 6:20.



We have so many people in the Bible that their names are not mentioned. After the flood, our mother was the wife of Noah. Please who can tell us her name? Was it mentioned in the Bible? So, let us just make do with what is revealed to us in the Bible rather than looking for more.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by josiahpaul(m): 9:28am On Dec 19, 2014
I will love to answer ur question, qouting from the scripture or paraphrasing those verses I did not remember where they are...firstly, JESUS was begotten of the holy spirit, that why he was Called the Son of God, worldly speaking Joseph just brought up jesus christ, we could see that even as an infact he manifested and embodied the total wisdom of God, he discuss with Rabbis ( professor then ) at age 12 and the were amazed by his teaching and doctrines
Do not for his saying in john8:58 " jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you, before abraham was, I am "......so if jesus was before abraham, jesus has been right from everlasting, he only came on a mission years after abraham and to fulfil prophecy, he was born to joseph so that he could be in that lineage as prophecied
Don't forget wat the bible says in hebrew 4:14-16 says " 14 seeing. Then that we have a great high prieast, that is passed into the heaven Jesus the son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 for we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin "
Lastly, in the old testament, even now God commanded tithe paying, and it belongs to God, at this time in Genesis, there is nothing like the levite or priest, nobody is worthy of accepting this than OUR HIGH PRIEST ( JESUS christ ) Remember what Colosian 1 : 16- 18 says about Jesus " 16 for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and for him: 17 and he is BEFORE all things, and by him all things consist. 18 and he is the head of the body, the church: who is the BEGINNING, the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD; that in all things he might have the preeminence.......AMEN...JESUS is the king of peace, the king of salem, the one with no geneology. He is the everlasting Father, yorubas called him ALADE ALAFIA...he is MELCHIZEDEK
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by KHENNYJAMES(m): 10:46am On Dec 19, 2014
Goshen360:
Melchizedek is not Christ. I guarantee you, the reason false teachers now twist scriptures to say he is Christ is because they still want to collect tithe using the example of Abraham AFTER THEIR LAW TITHE ARGUMENTS FAILED FLAT IN THE FACE OF SCRIPTURES.

That scripture in Hebrews is as clear as day light. Only dishonest folks will twist that scripture and dumb people will not ask questions. Thank God you can ask questions and the answers are obvious. Now, give me few minutes, I will explain the part that says, "having neither beginning of days nor end of life" to you, it's just one of the KJV English that confuse folks and many pastors know this, they use it to their own advantage or better still read many other translations. The rest, of #1-3, you got it RIGHT.

THAT TOO WILL HELP AS WELL AS WHEN YOU CHECK THE AMPLIFIED EDITION THAT SAYS "Without Any Record Of Father Or Mother" THAT IS TO TELL YOU THAT NO RECORD DOESN'T MEAN NO PARENTS
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by SterlingTowers(m): 1:51pm On Dec 19, 2014
Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same![font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

The Mystery of Melchizedek Solved!
by Herbert W. Armstrong (1892-1986)
1972
Topics
Jesus Christ as High Priest
Jesus Christ's Righteousness
Melchizedek
Priesthood, Melchizedek
Prince of Peace
Righteousness

Also See:
Abraham
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FEW MYSTERIES of the Bible have attracted more interest than the mystery of the identity of Melchizedek. Who is he?

You will read in Hebrews 6:19-20 that Jesus Christ, after His resurrection, is High Priest "after the order of Melchizedek." The plainer English of the Moffatt translation words it: ". . with the rank of" that is, equal status with "Melchizedek."

Melchizedek Was God's Priest

First, notice from both Old and New Testaments that the man of mystery, Melchizedek, was a priest of the Most High God. Turn 'low to the account in Genesis 14. During the war between a number of ancient city-states in Canaan and Mesopotamia, Abraham's nephew Lot had been captured. He and his family and goods were carted off.

One of their number escaped and brought the news to Abraham, who armed 318 of his own servants and pursued the invaders to what was later named Dan and beyond. Abraham rescued Lot and his family and returned them safely to the Canaanite cities.

On Abraham's return a man of mystery bursts upon the scene. Abraham was ministered to by Melchizedek.

Here is the account:

"And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was priest of God Most High. And he [Melchizedek] blessed him [Abraham] and said, 'Blessed be Abram by God Most High, maker of heaven and earth; and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand!' And Abram gave him [Melchizedek] a tenth of everything" that is, a tithe of all, for a tithe means a tenth (Genesis 14:18-20, RSV).

Notice that Melchizedek was king of Salem. That is the city of Jerusalem. "Salem" comes from the Hebrew word meaning "peace." That would make Melchizedek the "King of Peace" (Hebrews 7:2). The Hebrew name Melchizedek itself means "King of Righteousness" (Hebrews 7:2). The same individual is mentioned in Psalm 110:4. Speaking prophetically of Christ, David stated: "The Eternal hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." This verse is quoted again in Hebrews 5:6, 10.

Before we turn to Hebrews for the identification of Melchizedek, remember that this mystery figure is a mystery only to us. Abraham and the King of wicked Sodom knew exactly who he was. They must have seen him before. He could not have been a Canaanite, for they were steeped in pagan customs. And furthermore Canaan was a descendant of Ham, whereas God basically chose the descendants of Shem to accomplish His work.

Then who is the mystery man Melchizedek?

One other hint before we proceed. The land of Canaan from ancient time, before the days of Moses, was known among the Gentiles as "the divine land" the Holy land" the land of the place of worship!" Why? Was there someone in the Holy Land who was divine, holy, worthy of worship?

The Mystery Clears

Coming to Hebrews 7, we find Melchizedek identified:

"For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace" (Hebrews 7:1-2).

Since God names individuals what they are, that, then is what this man is.. "King of Righteousness."

Think of it! King of Righteousness.

Jesus Himself said: "There is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17). Human self-righteousness is, before God, as filthy rags. None can be righteous but God—or one made righteous by God's power—Christ in a person! And certainly none but One of the Godhead the divine Kingdom of God would be King of Righteousness. Such an expression, applied to any but God, would be blasphemous. Why?

Righteousness is obedience to God's Law. Since God made all laws (James 4:12), He is Supreme Ruler or King. He determines what righteousness is. "All thy commandments are righteousness" (Psalm 119:172). When speaking of one of the points of that Law, Jesus placed Himself superior to it. He is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). No man is Lord or King over God's Law. Only God could be! All human beings have sinned and broken that Law of righteousness (Romans 3:23).

To continue with Hebrews 7. Note, too, that this man was King of peace. "Salem" from which Jerusalem was named means "peace." And remember, Jesus is called the Prince of peace! No human being could be King of Peace. Men know not the way of peace. Read Romans 3:10 and 17: "There is none righteous, no, not one.... And the way of peace have they not known."

Observe further: Melchizedek was "without mother, without father, without descent," or as the Phillips translation renders it: "He had no father or mother and no family tree." He was not born as human beings are. He was without father and mother. This does not mean that Melchizedek's records of birth were lost. Without such records human priests could not serve (Ezra 2:62). But here Melchizedek had no genealogy. He must not have been an ordinary mortal. He had no descent or pedigree from another, but was self-existent. Notice Paul's own inspired interpretation of this fact: "Having neither beginning of days, nor end of life" (Hebrews 7:3). Therefore He has always existed from eternity! He was not even created, like angels. But He is now eternally self-existing. And that is true only of GOD deity, not humanity!

Not the Father Nor the Holy Spirit

Yet Melchizedek cannot be God the Father. He was the "priest of that Most High God." Scripture says no man has ever seen the Father (John 1:18, 5:37), but Abraham saw Melchizedek. He cannot be God the Father, but rather, "made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3).

And there it is! In the days of Abraham, He was not the Son of God, for He had not yet been born of the virgin Mary but He was made like unto the Son of God in His manifestation to the ancients.

Notice again: Melchizedek, this scripture reveals, abides that is, remains permanently, continually, a priest. God the Father is not the Priest of God, but Christ the Son is! Yet, in the days when the Apostle Paul lived and wrote, shortly after Jesus ascended to heaven as High Priest, the scripture states that even then Melchizedek "abideth "—which means does now abide—"a priest continually." The Moffatt translation states it: "continues to be priest permanently" even while Jesus Christ is High Priest!

And notice that the order of Christ's Priesthood is named after Melchizedek. It is the High Priest's name that is placed upon an order just as Aaron's name was upon the Aaronic priesthood. Thus Melchizedek was then High Priest, in Paul's day, and even now, and He will rule forever! And at the same time Christ was, is today, and shall be forever High Priest!

Are there two High Priests'? No! Impossible! The conclusion is inescapable. Contrary to many cherished man-thought-out ideas, Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same! Some people have stumbled on the statement that Melchizedek has no "end of life." They contend that since Christ died, He had an end of life! If that be true then Christ is still dead! But Christ is not dead. He is alive. It was not possible for Christ to be held by death (Acts 2:24). Melchizedek would never have fulfilled His office of High Priest if He had not died for the sins of the people and risen again. It is the function of the High Priest to lead the way to salvation.

Indeed, Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our salvation (Hebrews 5:9; 12:2). He is "called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Hebrews 5:10).

And no wonder. Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same Person!

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by brocab: 2:25pm On Dec 19, 2014
Imposable it say's Melchizedek has no history no-past no family,no parents, and yet Jesus had a history a past and a family a earthly Mother and Father God in heaven.

They cant be the same spiritual person. maybe the name Melchizedek wasn't really a man' but a name of a priesthood.

Was not John the baptise from that same priesthood, was it not John who baptised Jesus.

If Melchizedek was a man, others say he was Jesus, I wonder how the bible would sound.
{Jesus baptising Jesus}.
Then everyone would baptise themselves. Who needs the Church?

Think about this, instead of John baptising Jesus, wouldn't you think' it should have been Melchizedek?

Hebrews 7. It was the order of Melchizedek not the order of Aaron, and Aaron was the priest that year.

For the priesthood being changed of necessity there is a change of the law.

For he of whom these things were spoken belongs to another tribe, which no man has officiated at the altar.

Does this say: Jesus is not from that same tribe as Aaron?

Is Melchizedek from another tribe?

it is evident that our Lord rose from Judah of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.

And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek there arises another priest.

So now it says "Jesus" is in the likeness of Melchizedek, so they are not that same person.

In our day's we have priest-preachers-pastors and teachers, do they not all come under a higher priesthood?

And again are we all called by God, as a body. Some pastors some teachers Etc..that makes us many, didn't God adopt us as sons and daughters, like he did with our fathers in the O/Testament.

Even our Father God don't match up to be Melchizedek, God had a Son.

Genesis 14, King of Sodom went out to meet Abram at the Valley of shaveh {that is the Kings valley.}

Abram was already blessed by God, and from the spoils of war paid tithes to the priesthood-Melchizedek as king of Salem.
{Op's we now have two Kings}

It was King of Sodom who said: Abram, give me the persons and take the goods for yourself" Abram said: I have lifted up my hands to the Lord God Most high possessor of heaven and earth, I will take nothing that is yours, lest you can say I have made Abram rich.

If Melchizedek and Jesus were the same persons then I ask why did "Abram" lift up his hands to the Most high God in heaven.

You believe "Jesus" and "Melchizedek" are one.

It say's in John 14:7-9 If you had known Me you would have known My Father.
V's 9 He who has seen Me has seen my Father.

Think about it, Abram would have been wasting his time lifting up his hands to heaven when Melchizedek as Jesus was somewhere close to him?
Amen..
Many prosperity preachers used Melchizedek to Gain finances twisting a tithing messages around against the Church.
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MYSTERIES of the Bible have attracted more interest than the mystery of the identity of Melchizedek. Who is he?
You will read in Hebrews 6:19-20that Jesus Christ, after His resurrection, is High Priest "after the order of Melchizedek." The plainer English of the Moffatt translation words it: ". . with the rank of" that is, equal status with "Melchizedek."
MelchizedekWas God's Priest
First, notice from both Old and New Testaments that the man of mystery, Melchizedek, was a priest of the Most High God. Turn 'low to the account in Genesis 14. During the war between a number of ancient city-states in Canaan and Mesopotamia, Abraham's nephew Lot had been captured. He and his family and goods were carted off.
One of their number escaped and brought the news to Abraham, who armed 318 of his own servants and pursued the invaders to what was later named Dan and beyond. Abraham rescued Lot and his family and returned them safely to the Canaanite cities.
On Abraham's return a man of mystery bursts upon the scene. Abraham was ministered to by Melchizedek.
Here is the account:
"And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was priest of God Most High. And he [Melchizedek] blessed him [Abraham] and said, 'Blessed be Abram by God Most High, maker of heaven and earth; and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand!' And Abram gave him [Melchizedek] a tenth of everything" that is, a tithe of all, for a tithe means a tenth ( Genesis 14:18-20, RSV).
Notice that Melchizedek was king of Salem. That is the city of Jerusalem. "Salem" comes from the Hebrew word meaning " peace." That would make Melchizedek the "King of Peace" ( Hebrews 7:2). The Hebrew name Melchizedek itself means "King of Righteousness" ( Hebrews 7:2). The same individual is mentioned in Psalm 110:4. Speaking prophetically of Christ, David stated: "The Eternal hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." This verse is quoted again in Hebrews 5:6, 10.
Before we turn to Hebrews for the identification of Melchizedek, remember that this mystery figure is a mystery only to us. Abraham and the King of wicked Sodom knew exactly who he was. They must have seen him before. He could not have been a Canaanite, for they were steeped in pagan customs. And furthermore Canaan was a descendant of Ham, whereas God basically chose the descendants of Shem to accomplish His work.
Then who is the mystery man Melchizedek?
One other hint before we proceed. The land of Canaan from ancient time, before the days of Moses, was known among the Gentiles as "the divine land" the Holy land" the land of the place of worship!" Why? Was there someone in the Holy Land who was divine, holy, worthy of worship?
The Mystery Clears
Coming to Hebrews 7, we find Melchizedek identified:
"For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace" ( Hebrews 7:1-2).
Since God names individuals what they are, that, then is what this man is.. "King of Righteousness."
Think of it! King of Righteousness.
Jesus Himself said: "There is none good but one, that is, God" ( Matthew 19:17). Human self-righteousness is, before God, as filthy rags. None can be righteous but God—or one made righteous by God's power—Christ in a person! And certainly none but One of the Godhead the divine Kingdom of Godwould be King of Righteousness. Such an expression, applied to any but God, would be blasphemous. Why?
Righteousness is obedience to God's Law. Since God made all laws ( James 4:12), He is Supreme Ruler or King. He determines what righteousness is. "All thy commandments are righteousness" ( Psalm 119:172). When speaking of one of the points of that Law, Jesus placed Himself superior to it. He is Lord of the Sabbath( Mark 2:28). No man is Lord or King over God's Law. Only God could be! All human beings have sinned and broken that Law of righteousness ( Romans 3:23).
To continue with Hebrews 7. Note, too, that this man was King of peace. "Salem" from which Jerusalem was named means "peace." And remember, Jesus is called the Prince of peace! No human being could be King of Peace. Men know not the way of peace. Read Romans 3:10and 17: "There is none righteous, no, not one.... And the way of peace have they not known."
Observe further: Melchizedek was "without mother, without father, without descent," or as the Phillips translation renders it: "He had no father or mother and no family tree." He was not born as human beings are. He was without father and mother. This does not mean that Melchizedek's records of birth were lost. Without such records human priests could not serve ( Ezra 2:62). But here Melchizedek had no genealogy. He must not have been an ordinary mortal. He had no descent or pedigree from another, but was self-existent. Notice Paul's own inspired interpretation of this fact: "Having neither beginning of days, nor end of life" ( Hebrews 7:3). Therefore He has always existed from eternity! He was not even created, like angels. But He is now eternally self-existing. And that is true only of GODdeity, not humanity!
Not the Father Nor the Holy Spirit
Yet Melchizedek cannot be God the Father. He was the "priest of that Most High God." Scripture says no man has ever seen the Father ( John 1:18, 5:37), but Abraham saw Melchizedek. He cannot be God the Father, but rather, "made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" ( Hebrews 7:3).
And there it is! In the days of Abraham, He was not the Son of God, for He had not yet been born of the virgin Mary but He was made like unto the Son of God in His manifestation to the ancients.
Notice again: Melchizedek, this scripture reveals, abides that is, remains permanently, continually, a priest. God the Father is not the Priest of God, but Christ the Son is! Yet, in the days when the Apostle Paul lived and wrote, shortly after Jesus ascended to heaven as High Priest, the scripture states that even then Melchizedek "abideth "—which means does now abide—"a priest continually." The Moffatt translation states it: "continues to be priest permanently" even while Jesus Christ is High Priest!
And notice that the order of Christ's Priesthoodis named after Melchizedek. It is the High Priest's name that is placed upon an order just as Aaron's name was upon the Aaronic priesthood. Thus Melchizedek was then High Priest, in Paul's day, and even now, and He will rule forever! And at the same time Christ was, is today, and shall be forever High Priest!
Are there two High Priests'? No! Impossible! The conclusion is inescapable. Contrary to many cherished man-thought-out ideas, Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same! Some people have stumbled on the statement that Melchizedek has no "end of life." They contend that since Christ died, He had an end of life! If that be true then Christ is still dead! But Christ is not dead. He is alive. It was not possible for Christ to be held by death ( Acts 2:24). Melchizedek would never have fulfilled His office of High Priest if He had not died for the sins of the people and risen again. It is the function of the High Priest to lead the way to salvation.
Indeed, Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our salvation ( Hebrews 5:9; 12:2). He is "called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek" ( Hebrews 5:10).
And no wonder. Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same Person!
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by lanxlot(m): 12:12pm On Dec 20, 2014
SterlingTowers:

Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same![font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

The Mystery of Melchizedek Solved!
by Herbert W. Armstrong (1892-1986)
1972
Topics
Jesus Christ as High Priest
Jesus Christ's Righteousness
Melchizedek
Priesthood, Melchizedek
Prince of Peace
Righteousness

Also See:
Abraham
More...
FEW MYSTERIES of the Bible have attracted more interest than the mystery of the identity of Melchizedek. Who is he?

You will read in Hebrews 6:19-20 that Jesus Christ, after His resurrection, is High Priest "after the order of Melchizedek." The plainer English of the Moffatt translation words it: ". . with the rank of" that is, equal status with "Melchizedek."

Melchizedek Was God's Priest

First, notice from both Old and New Testaments that the man of mystery, Melchizedek, was a priest of the Most High God. Turn 'low to the account in Genesis 14. During the war between a number of ancient city-states in Canaan and Mesopotamia, Abraham's nephew Lot had been captured. He and his family and goods were carted off.

One of their number escaped and brought the news to Abraham, who armed 318 of his own servants and pursued the invaders to what was later named Dan and beyond. Abraham rescued Lot and his family and returned them safely to the Canaanite cities.

On Abraham's return a man of mystery bursts upon the scene. Abraham was ministered to by Melchizedek.

Here is the account:

"And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was priest of God Most High. And he [Melchizedek] blessed him [Abraham] and said, 'Blessed be Abram by God Most High, maker of heaven and earth; and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand!' And Abram gave him [Melchizedek] a tenth of everything" that is, a tithe of all, for a tithe means a tenth (Genesis 14:18-20, RSV).

Notice that Melchizedek was king of Salem. That is the city of Jerusalem. "Salem" comes from the Hebrew word meaning "peace." That would make Melchizedek the "King of Peace" (Hebrews 7:2). The Hebrew name Melchizedek itself means "King of Righteousness" (Hebrews 7:2). The same individual is mentioned in Psalm 110:4. Speaking prophetically of Christ, David stated: "The Eternal hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." This verse is quoted again in Hebrews 5:6, 10.

Before we turn to Hebrews for the identification of Melchizedek, remember that this mystery figure is a mystery only to us. Abraham and the King of wicked Sodom knew exactly who he was. They must have seen him before. He could not have been a Canaanite, for they were steeped in pagan customs. And furthermore Canaan was a descendant of Ham, whereas God basically chose the descendants of Shem to accomplish His work.

Then who is the mystery man Melchizedek?

One other hint before we proceed. The land of Canaan from ancient time, before the days of Moses, was known among the Gentiles as "the divine land" the Holy land" the land of the place of worship!" Why? Was there someone in the Holy Land who was divine, holy, worthy of worship?

The Mystery Clears

Coming to Hebrews 7, we find Melchizedek identified:

"For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace" (Hebrews 7:1-2).

Since God names individuals what they are, that, then is what this man is.. "King of Righteousness."

Think of it! King of Righteousness.

Jesus Himself said: "There is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17). Human self-righteousness is, before God, as filthy rags. None can be righteous but God—or one made righteous by God's power—Christ in a person! And certainly none but One of the Godhead the divine Kingdom of God would be King of Righteousness. Such an expression, applied to any but God, would be blasphemous. Why?

Righteousness is obedience to God's Law. Since God made all laws (James 4:12), He is Supreme Ruler or King. He determines what righteousness is. "All thy commandments are righteousness" (Psalm 119:172). When speaking of one of the points of that Law, Jesus placed Himself superior to it. He is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). No man is Lord or King over God's Law. Only God could be! All human beings have sinned and broken that Law of righteousness (Romans 3:23).

To continue with Hebrews 7. Note, too, that this man was King of peace. "Salem" from which Jerusalem was named means "peace." And remember, Jesus is called the Prince of peace! No human being could be King of Peace. Men know not the way of peace. Read Romans 3:10 and 17: "There is none righteous, no, not one.... And the way of peace have they not known."

Observe further: Melchizedek was "without mother, without father, without descent," or as the Phillips translation renders it: "He had no father or mother and no family tree." He was not born as human beings are. He was without father and mother. This does not mean that Melchizedek's records of birth were lost. Without such records human priests could not serve (Ezra 2:62). But here Melchizedek had no genealogy. He must not have been an ordinary mortal. He had no descent or pedigree from another, but was self-existent. Notice Paul's own inspired interpretation of this fact: "Having neither beginning of days, nor end of life" (Hebrews 7:3). Therefore He has always existed from eternity! He was not even created, like angels. But He is now eternally self-existing. And that is true only of GOD deity, not humanity!

Not the Father Nor the Holy Spirit

Yet Melchizedek cannot be God the Father. He was the "priest of that Most High God." Scripture says no man has ever seen the Father (John 1:18, 5:37), but Abraham saw Melchizedek. He cannot be God the Father, but rather, "made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3).

And there it is! In the days of Abraham, He was not the Son of God, for He had not yet been born of the virgin Mary but He was made like unto the Son of God in His manifestation to the ancients.

Notice again: Melchizedek, this scripture reveals, abides that is, remains permanently, continually, a priest. God the Father is not the Priest of God, but Christ the Son is! Yet, in the days when the Apostle Paul lived and wrote, shortly after Jesus ascended to heaven as High Priest, the scripture states that even then Melchizedek "abideth "—which means does now abide—"a priest continually." The Moffatt translation states it: "continues to be priest permanently" even while Jesus Christ is High Priest!

And notice that the order of Christ's Priesthood is named after Melchizedek. It is the High Priest's name that is placed upon an order just as Aaron's name was upon the Aaronic priesthood. Thus Melchizedek was then High Priest, in Paul's day, and even now, and He will rule forever! And at the same time Christ was, is today, and shall be forever High Priest!

Are there two High Priests'? No! Impossible! The conclusion is inescapable. Contrary to many cherished man-thought-out ideas, Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same! Some people have stumbled on the statement that Melchizedek has no "end of life." They contend that since Christ died, He had an end of life! If that be true then Christ is still dead! But Christ is not dead. He is alive. It was not possible for Christ to be held by death (Acts 2:24). Melchizedek would never have fulfilled His office of High Priest if He had not died for the sins of the people and risen again. It is the function of the High Priest to lead the way to salvation.

Indeed, Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our salvation (Hebrews 5:9; 12:2). He is "called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Hebrews 5:10).

And no wonder. Melchizedek and Christ are one and the same Person!

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by openmine(m): 4:28pm On Dec 20, 2014
The bible scholar from where this article was copied and pasted from are entitled to their opinion..

first of all,there are too many differences between jesus and melki....
was an oath sworn on melki before he became a priest like jesus christ(not high priest)?
was melki's blood shed on behalf of the world to redeem mankind?
what did Galatians 4:4 say about jesus christ?

Lets say melki was jesus and he was the one who met abram after his return from war,then Galatians 3:16 would be totally false!

my admission is that their priesthoods bears resemblance(LIKE which is figurative) but one is higher than the other as a result of many differences which also includes an oath made by God himself in hebrews 7:20-21:

20 And it was not without an oath. For those who formerly became priests were made such without an oath,
21 but this one was made a priest with an oath by the one who said to him:
"The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind,
'You are a priest forever.
'"
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 8:34am On Dec 23, 2014
nairaman66:


Melchizedek was describe in the bible text as King Of Salem. Salem on the bible is describe as a city of God almighty in heaven. When Jesus died and went to heaven, Bod almighty said "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool. This means Jesus is a King in Heaven.

Conclusively, Melchizedek is Jesus Christ who appeared to Abraham when he was returning from (war) the slaughters of kings !!

If we assume that what you have said is true, how is he made like Christ? In other words a type of Christ.

When did the Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool fulfill? Before or after Christ's existence on earth?

When Did Melch become king-priest? Before or after Christ's coming on earth?

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by openmine(m): 9:48am On Dec 23, 2014
JMAN05:


If we assume that what you have said is true, how is he made like Christ? In other words a type of Christ.

When did the Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool fulfill? Before or after Christ's existence on earth?

When Did Melch become king-priest? Before or after Christ's coming on earth?
gud questions....
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by nairaman66(m): 11:45am On Dec 23, 2014
JMAN05:


If we assume that what you have said is true, how is he made like Christ? In other words a type of Christ.

When did the Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool fulfill? Before or after Christ's existence on earth?

When Did Melch become king-priest? Before or after Christ's coming on earth?

Melchizedek and Jesus Christ are one and thesame!
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 4:13pm On Dec 24, 2014
nairaman66:


Melchizedek and Jesus Christ are one and thesame!


You ve not answered the question sir.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by brocab: 9:12pm On Sep 25, 2015
They were only the same because they became both priest, with out the order of men-but the order of God, we too are made priest by God, which makes us like Christ, and how are we like Christ, He sent us out to heal the sick, rise the dead, and preach the gospel.
Theirs only One God-One Lord and One Spirit. Jesus Christ is the King of kings and the Lord of lords..
Only He sits at the right hand of God the Father.
JMAN05:


If we assume that what you have said is true, how is he made like Christ? In other words a type of Christ.

When did the Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool fulfill? Before or after Christ's existence on earth?

When Did Melch become king-priest? Before or after Christ's coming on earth?
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 4:59am On Sep 26, 2015
brocab:
They were only the same because they became both priest, with out the order of men-but the order of God, we too are made priest by God, which makes us like Christ, and how are we like Christ, He sent us out to heal the sick, rise the dead, and preach the gospel.
Theirs only One God-One Lord and One Spirit. Jesus Christ is the King of kings and the Lord of lords..
Only He sits at the right hand of God the Father.

Were there something in my comment u intended to correct, cos i can't see the point.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by brocab: 8:03am On Sep 26, 2015
Sorry I should be writing to nairaman66
Well do you think Jesus was Melchizedek because He was in the likeness of Jesus. As the bible say's.
But as we all know he isn't Jesus.
Just in the likeness of Jesus, you must wonder are we not sons of the most high God, didn't Jesus adopt us as His sons, and why did He adopt us-is it because we have chosen to follow what Jesus did, do we heal the sick, rise the dead and preach the gospel-which makes us Father like son. So we too are in the likeness of Him like Melchizedek.
And also don't forget Melchizedek accepted the tithe from Abraham only because the tithe didn't belong to him.
Where in the new Testament did Jesus accept the tithe, if Jesus accepted the tithe back then He would have mention it and accepted it now. But He didn't.
Melchizedek was a King on earth, Jesus always claimed His kingdom was in heaven, and not on earth.
Why the change?
When you believe in the lord you believe as He had written it.

JMAN05:


Were there something in my comment u intended to correct, cos i can't see the point.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 7:49pm On Sep 27, 2015
brocab:
Sorry I should be writing to nairaman66
Well do you think Jesus was Melchizedek because He was in the likeness of Jesus. As the bible say's.
But as we all know he isn't Jesus.
Just in the likeness of Jesus, you must wonder are we not sons of the most high God, didn't Jesus adopt us as His sons, and why did He adopt us-is it because we have chosen to follow what Jesus did, do we heal the sick, rise the dead and preach the gospel-which makes us Father like son. So we too are in the likeness of Him like Melchizedek.
And also don't forget Melchizedek accepted the tithe from Abraham only because the tithe didn't belong to him.
Where in the new Testament did Jesus accept the tithe, if Jesus accepted the tithe back then He would have mention it and accepted it now. But He didn't.
Melchizedek was a King on earth, Jesus always claimed His kingdom was in heaven, and not on earth.
Why the change?
When you believe in the lord you believe as He had written it.


Search for the one u wish to respond to.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by brocab: 11:57pm On Sep 27, 2015
Yes boss
JMAN05:


Search for the one u wish to respond to.

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