the bible
consist of
the word of man,word of God,word of
stone,animals,angels,satan etc..
for example:
Judges 9:13 ASV
American Standard Version
And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my
new wine,
which cheereth God and man, and go to wave to
and fro over
the trees?
IS THIS GOD'S WORD?
Furthermore,we read more words that are not of
God in the
bible,
Matthew 15:27 "7"8
Parallel Verses
New International Version
"Yes it is, Lord," she said. "Even the dogs eat the
crumbs that
fall from their master's table."
Who was talking,God,the woman or an historian?
IS THIS GOD'S WORD?apparently NO!
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After analyzing how I came to believe that the
Bible is not the word of God,I will like to talk about
another christian theory which is;
JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF HUMANITY,HOW
TRUE
When an innocent man is given punishment for
something he didn't do, he must be compensated
for this punishment. This is fair and
understandable. An example in today's time
would be Maher Arar, a Syrian-Canadian who is a
Muslim that got accused of being a terrorist by US
officials.
This man as innocent as he was of this
accusation, was
deported to Syria and placed in prison for a year,
where he
was put through torture. Later, he was released
and recently
he was granted $10.5 Million Canadian as
compensation for
his time and suffering.
This man was innocent and indeed
was deserving of compensation.
The Christian argument goes that God came as
Jesus; he was
sinless and died on the cross, and was
compensated by being
brought back to life and in addition getting all of
mankind's
sins wiped away. Technically, Jesus shouldn't
have been
compensated for anything.
In this article,I am going to ignore the Islamic
position of
Jesus and God and i am going to discuss who died
for
whose sins, according to the Christian scriptures.
This article
is meant to bash Christians and their faith, but to
show that the idea of Jesus dying for our sins is
baseless.
God, in the Hebrew (Old) Testament has had many
situations
where he commands atrocities and then repents
for the
actions committed.
In II Samuel 24:15-16 after 70,000 people are
killed, and God
puts an end to the command and repents for this
great
disaster.
II Samuel 24:15-16
15 So the LORD sent a plague on Israel from that
morning
until the end of the time designated, and seventy
thousand of
the people from Dan to Beersheba died.
16 When the angel stretched out his hand to
destroy
Jerusalem;the LORD was grieved because of the
calamity and
said to the angel who was afflicting the
people,Enough!
Withdraw your hand. The angel of the LORD was
then at the
threshing-floor of Araunah the Jebusite.
So as we read here after the 70,000 people were
killed, the
God of the bible repents and puts an end to the
calamity.
Who knew that God has regrets?
So basically in a Questions and Answers
conversation between
a non-christian and a Christian, it seems you will
find
something along these lines happening""
Non-christian: Why don't all the dead people get
compensated by being brought back to life?
Christian: Well
these people were corrupted individuals who died
and it was
necessary at the time that they be killed.
Non-christian: So, you believe that all the people
who died
were corrupted? No one was an innocent bystander
by any
chance?
Christian: Well, there might have been a couple
here and
there.
Non-christian: So how do they get compensated?
Christian:That'ss up to God.
Non-christian: Fair enough. So what about all the
other
corrupted individuals who didn't die, who probably
survived
and weren't put to death?
Christian: Jesus died for their sins!
I am honestly less than pleased with the
answer""Jesus died
for our sins.""
With the above made clear, it causes us to really
want to
know whose sins did Jesus (as God) really die for?
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In Zephaniah 2:12-15 we find God stating;
12 You too, O Cushites,will be slain by my sword.
13 He will stretch out his hand against the north
and destroy
Assyria,leaving Nineveh utterly desolate and dry as
the desert.
14 Flocks and herds will lie down there, creatures
of every
kind. The desert owl and the screech owl will roost
on her
columns. Their calls will echo through the
windows, rubble will
be in the doorways, the beams of cedar will be
exposed.
15 This is the carefree city that lived in safety. She
said to
herself, I am, and there is none besides me. What a
ruin she
has become, a lair for wild beasts! All who pass by
her scoff
and shake their fists.
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This shows a lot of murderous anger and hatred
coming from
the end of God (assuming he's Jesus).
Now, i go a little further into this article and point
out once
again, that Jesus is God according to the
Christians and that
many atrocities have been performed by the
command of God.
Be reminded also that God repents for these
atrocities.
However, as nice as this ""repentance"" may
appear that
comes from God""s end each time an atrocity
occurs, it does
not really bring back these people from the dead or
grant
them any form of compensation.
The 6thcommandment of""Do Not Murder""is clear
and its
consequences are elaborated in Genesis
9:6;""Whoever sheds
the blood of man, by man shall his blood be
shed""where the
sin for murder is compensated through executing
the
murderer.This is the implication of capital
punishment, where
a man who kills must be killed. Repentance on its
own is not
prescribed as a way of compensating for the sin of
murder. In
other words, if I were to murder someone and I
were to be
judged by the laws of the bible, me apologizing to
the family
of the victim and/or repenting, wouldn't cut it; I
would need
to undergo execution. In the case of God, where he
supposedly comes as man, it would be fair to say
that in the
end Jesus didn't die for the sins of mankind, but
rather for
his own personal commands of murder in the Old
Testament.
So we conclude that justice was served, by the
death of Jesus
on the cross. Therefore, it can't be possible that
The Son
died for the sins of man but if anything, he died for
the sins of
The Father.
Christians put their faith in Jesus Christ, because
they believe
he died for their sins, where in this article I have
just come to
point out that if anyone died for anyone's sins, its
more or
less for his own.
The contradiction behind the belief of Jesus
dying for mankind's sins is clear and should no
longer be
used as a segue into the Christian doctrine.
Christians need to
see the fault behind the reasoning of their faith in
Christ, and
should not worship Jesus as a middleman between
themselves and God. Rather, we should all focus
on God alone
and to only worship him, to accept that Jesus was
only a
mere man created by God.
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I will buttress my points by making use of two
biblical verses to
back up my claim that jesus died not for the sins
of humanity.
1.Ezekiel 18:20
New International Version (NIV)
20 The one who sins is the one who will die.The
child will not
share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent
share the guilt
of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will
be
credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked
will be
charged against them.
2.Deuteronomy 24:16 "7"8
Parallel Verses
New International Version
Parents are not to be put to death for their
children, nor
children put to death for their parents; each will die
for their
own sin.
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These two verses further proves that no man shall
die for the
sins of another but every man shall die for his sins
hence,JESUS DIED NOT FOR THE SINS OF
MANKIND
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After analyzing why I stopped to disbelieve the lies
that Jesus died for the sins of mankind,I will
quickly write about;
WHO DESERVES OUR WORSHIP
Unarguably,no biblical prophet from Adam to Jesus
worshipped any other god except their creator.the
whole prophets came with just one message,ONE
GOD!
even Jesus Never worshipped himself but
God!.taking Jesus to be God, saviour worthy of
worship is totally unbiblical,below are bible verses
talking about monotheism;
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Deuteronomy 6:4
"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the
LORD is one!
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all who is over all
and through all and in all.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator
also between God and men, the man
Christ Jesus,
Deuteronomy 4:35
"To you it was shown that you might know
that the LORD, He is God; there is no other
besides Him.
Deuteronomy 32:39
'See now that I, I am He, And there is no
god besides Me; It is I who put to death
and give life I have wounded and it is I
who heal, And there is no one who can
deliver from My hand.
Nehemiah 9:6
"You alone are the LORD You have made
the heavens, The heaven of heavens with
all their host, The earth and all that is on
it, The seas and all that is in them You
give life to all of them And the heavenly
host bows down before You.
Psalms 83:18
That they may know that You alone,
whose name is the LORD, Are the Most
High over all the earth.
Psalms 86:10
For You are great and do wondrous deeds;
You alone are God.
Isaiah 43:10
"You are My witnesses," declares the
LORD, "And My servant whom I have
chosen, So that you may know and believe
Me And understand that I am He Before
Me there was no God formed, And there
will be none after Me.
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel
and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I
am the first and I am the last, And there is
no God besides Me.
Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the LORD, who created the
heavens (He is the God who formed the
earth and made it, He established it and
did not create it a waste place, but formed
it to be inhabited), "I am the LORD, and
there is none else.
Mark 12:29
Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR,
O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE
LORD;
Romans 3:30
since indeed God who will justify the
circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised
through faith is one.
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
from whom are all things and we exist for
Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom
are all things, and we exist through Him.
James 2:19
You believe that God is one You do well;
the demons also believe, and shudder.
1 Kings 8:23
He said, "O LORD, the God of Israel, there
is no God like You in heaven above or on
earth beneath, keeping covenant and
showing loving kindness to Your servants
who walk before You with all their heart,
Exodus 8:10
Then he said, "Tomorrow." So he said,
"May it be according to your word, that
you may know that there is no one like the
LORD our God.
2 Samuel 7:22
"For this reason You are great, O Lord
GOD; for there is none like You, and there
is no God besides You, according to all
that we have heard with our ears.
1 Chronicles 17:20
"O LORD, there is none like You, nor is
there any God besides You, according to
all that we have heard with our ears.
Psalms 89:6
For who in the skies is comparable to the
LORD? Who among the sons of the mighty
is like the LORD,
Isaiah 40:18
To whom then will you liken God? Or what
likeness will you compare with Him?
Exodus 20:3-5
"You shall have no other gods before Me.
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or
any likeness of what is in heaven above or
on the earth beneath or in the water under
the earth. "You shall not worship them or
serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am
a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers on the children, on the third and
the fourth generations of those who hate
Me,
Deuteronomy 5:7-9
'You shall have no other gods before Me.
'You shall not make for yourself an idol, or
any likeness of what is in heaven above or
on the earth beneath or in the water under
the earth. 'You shall not worship them or
serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am
a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers on the children, and on the third
and the fourth generations of those who
hate Me,
Jeremiah 25:6
and do not go after other gods to serve
them and to worship them, and do not
provoke Me to anger with the work of your
hands, and I will do you no harm.'
Exodus 20:23
'You shall not make other gods besides
Me; gods of silver or gods of gold, you
shall not make for yourselves.
Exodus 34:14
--for you shall not worship any other god,
for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a
jealous God--
Deuteronomy 6:14
"You shall not follow other gods, any of
the gods of the peoples who surround you,
Deuteronomy 13:6-8
"If your brother, your mother's son, or your
son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or
your friend who is as your own soul,
entice you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and
serve other gods' (whom neither you nor
your fathers have known, of the gods of
the peoples who are around you, near you
or far from you, from one end of the earth
to the other end), you shall not yield to
him or listen to him; and your eye shall
not pity him, nor shall you spare or
conceal him.
2 Kings 17:38-39
"The covenant that I have made with you,
you shall not forget, nor shall you fear
other gods. "But the LORD your God you
shall fear; and He will deliver you from the
hand of all your enemies."
Psalms 81:9
"Let there be no strange god among you;
Nor shall you worship any foreign god.
Jeremiah 1:16
"I will pronounce My judgments on them
concerning all their wickedness, whereby
they have forsaken Me and have offered
sacrifices to other gods, and worshiped the
works of their own hands.
Jeremiah 19:4
"Because they have forsaken Me and have
made this an alien place and have burned
sacrifices in it to other gods, that neither
they nor their forefathers nor the kings of
Judah had ever known, and because they
have filled this place with the blood of the
innocent
Jeremiah 35:15
"Also I have sent to you all My servants
the prophets, sending them again and
again, saying: 'Turn now every man from
his evil way and amend your deeds, and
do not go after other gods to worship
them Then you will dwell in the land which
I have given to you and to your
forefathers; but you have not inclined your
ear or listened to Me.
Deuteronomy 6:4-5
"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the
LORD is one! "You shall love the LORD
your God with all your heart and with all
your soul and with all your might.
Deuteronomy 13:4
"You shall follow the LORD your God and
fear Him; and you shall keep His
commandments, listen to His voice, serve
Him, and cling to Him.
Matthew 4:10
Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it
is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE
LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM
ONLY.'"
1 Thessalonians 1:9-10
For they themselves report about us what
kind of a reception we had with you, and
how you turned to God from idols to serve
a living and true God, and to wait for His
Son from heaven, whom He raised from
the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us
from the wrath to come.
Isaiah 37:19
and have cast their gods into the fire, for
they were not gods but the work of men's
hands, wood and stone So they have
destroyed them.
1 Corinthians 8:4
Therefore concerning the eating of things
sacrificed to idols, we know that there is
no such thing as an idol in the world, and
that there is no God but one.
1 Corinthians 10:19-20
What do I mean then? That a thing
sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an
idol is anything? No, but I say that the
things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they
sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I
do not want you to become sharers in
demons.
Isaiah 44:9-11
Those who fashion a graven image are all
of them futile, and their precious things are
of no profit; even their own witnesses fail
to see or know, so that they will be put to
shame. Who has fashioned a god or cast
an idol to no profit? Behold, all his
companions will be put to shame, for the
craftsmen themselves are mere men. Let
them all assemble themselves, let them
stand up, let them tremble, let them
together be put to shame.
Acts 14:15
and saying, "Men, why are you doing these
things? We are also men of the same
nature as you, and preach the gospel to
you that you should turn from these vain
things to a living God, WHO MADE THE
HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA
AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM.
Galatians 4:8
However at that time, when you did not
know God, you were slaves to those which
by nature are no gods.////////
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THE ABOVE VERSES TALKS ABOUT THE
MONOTHEISTIC CONCEPT OF GOD AND ISLAM
MEANS TOTAL SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF
GOD

Hmmmm... o ga o

Let's all read without been biase and make informed discission on how to serve our creator..... The world we live in now is only for a little while, life after death is Eternal......... Worship the one true God and don't render your good deeds futile.........

person when neva pass jamb they try disprove God

DeHero1:
Hmmmm... o ga o

DeHero. Ko ga ra ra at all! You just need to think deep, search for the true God, ask real questions from those who know...... God created us to serve Him alone. Not through anybody (I mean the so called men of "God" but directly! Why not forget about the stereotypical connotations labelled on Islam and Muslim and pick a book or an English Qur'an read the text and refer your questions to The Mislims around you.......

OP is a madcow on the loose!!
By their fruits.......u know them!

Its better u serve twenty gods and be peaceful with ur fellow man than serve one wicked god who drinks only human blood on non stop bases!!

Its so easy to prove that Islam= fighting. Jihad.
Evil. Babarism. Bloodletting. Bombing. Beheading. Rapeeing. Stealing. Arsonists. Armed robbers. Cradle hustlers. Peadophiles. Liars. Occultism. Oppression etc than any other religion on earth!! Trust me!

that's just it.............. Islam is the way
think of it
make your research and know the truth
don't be carried away by the blasphemy

that's just it.............. Islam is the way
think of it
make your research and know the truth
don't be carried away by the blasphemy



did Christian know that there God Audi author the and thing

smallrincowis16:
that's just it.............. Islam is the way
think of it
make your research and know the truth
don't be carried away by the blasphemy

you post this thread here,why not post it in the religion section and get your answer?

Islam is of the devil, the satan want you to end up in hell that why quran promise all pious Muslim hell.

Check this thread and see how Allah lied;
https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity

And see Allah failed prophecy;
https://www.nairaland.com/2074132/allahs-failed-prophecy-quran

And see were Muslim get there inspiration for terror;
https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism

Op, if you die now, yoi will go to hell, am not the one that say this,the evidence is in the quran.

malvisguy212:
you post this thread here,why not post it in the religion section and get your answer?

Islam is of the devil, the satan want you to end up in hell that why quran promise all pious Muslim hell.

Check this thread and see how Allah lied;
https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity

And see Allah failed prophecy;
https://www.nairaland.com/2074132/allahs-failed-prophecy-quran

And see were Muslim get there inspiration for terror;
https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism

Op, if you die now, yoi will go to hell, am not the one that say this,the evidence is in the quran.

all an online scholar.
do your ever know what secondary source of information is??