stephenmorris:
... copy and tell me so i can delete it sir

joseph1013:
Got it. You will get a mail from me today.

joseph1013:
This is an interesting video. What do you think?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVsVgAqV9WI&itct=CBwQpDAYASITCOaz7-2nzc8CFSYHfwodEZ4EwlIOZGFya21hdHRlcjI1MjU%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=NG

cc: seun, jhonnydon22, pastoraio, frank317, stephenmorris,

joseph1013:
[b]MY ADVICE TO A CHRISTIAN

One of my Christian friends asked me (facetiously, I think) "If l should abandon my God today, what would you recommend for me?"

Here is my advice.

I advise you not to--you are not ready yet. When you are ready, you won't need to ask for advice. When you are ready, the lack of evidence for invisible beings will be SO obvious that you will kick yourself for days that you were ever taken in by such nonsense. You don't need to abandon an illusion--you need to acknowledge it.

You will see everything with a new and fresher perspective. For example, you will see that people invent Gods (and invent even more religions) and the fact that everyone fights to defend their family god is significant. They don't do that because they KNOW their family god is real but because they have been taught to BELIEVE their family god is real. And defending their god is defending their family and their culture.

When you think about how to treat your fellow humans, you won't wonder what a book written by people with backward Iron Age morals says, you will think about the consequences of your actions and how they affect the wellbeing of other sentient beings. You won't hope attacking or denying rights to a gay person will get you brownie points in an afterlife, rather you will know you should be helping and loving people, not attacking them.

When you abandon your God-belief, the world will become ever so slightly a nicer place. But don't do it until you're ready.[/b]

ecton:

Please do you have a copy of the book? I've been looking for it. Here's my contact: emeboanthony@gmail.com

joseph1013:


What book?

stephenmorris:
almost 2 years and counting , nothing do u my brother, still th most ground breaking thread ever by a lone person, I like the way you also mix the thoughts of others in your thread bro,,,,,,, thumbs up

joseph1013:
QUESTION 4 (COMPULSORY) (20 marks)

God is hidden because:

1) He loves us so much that he wants to be sure we love him too. Despite knowing everything, he can only be sure we love him by making people earnestly seek him. The unfortunate side-effect of this is that billions of people he dearly loves will not manage to find him and will have to be punished by being roasted in fire for ever. He truly believes this is a price worth paying to be sure of something he knows anyway. Remember, whatever happens, God loves you.

OR

2) He does not exist.

joseph1013:
[b]GOD'S FAILED STRATEGY

Some say that God not only exists, but longs to have a meaningful relationship with each one of us. However, in his infinite wisdom, God decided to hide from us--forcing us to rely on faith to believe he exists.

One problem with this strategy is that once we resort to faith, we can believe ANY god exists or many gods exist and, with only faith to go on, it's hard for anyone to prove us wrong. This is rather like giving us a special dice with not six faces, but a few thousand faces--with a different god inscribed on each face.

So God allows chance to decide who will engage in a meaningful relationship with him and who won't. It's pretty obvious this doesn't work very well. After 3,000 or more years, people still worship many different gods. And even those who believe in God have widely varying beliefs about what he is like, what he wants of us and his plans for us.

Furthermore, people are increasingly moving from faith to sense and deciding there are no good reasons to believe God exists.

Hiding from the people you dearly love is a ridiculous strategy and you don't need to be omniscient to figure that out.[/b]

CHUKWU is not YAHWEH
- Steve Abia

Igbo Christians, please listen up, the Judeo-Christian god you worship is not the same as Chukwu, in Igbo mythology.

Chukwu is the Almighty supreme God. Our ancestors worshiped Chukwu through the lesser deities because his ways are are assumed to be too high for men - men need something closer to them, and Chukwu understands.

Chukwu is not jealous, unlike the Jewish God, Yahweh. He recognises the existence of lesser gods and He accords them respect. There is no conflict of interest. Chukwu is tolerant. He does not feel threatened by the arrival of new deities. Even when other gods become vicious,
Chukwu cannot loose his cool. He does not meddle with the mundane affairs of little men and gods. He is busy maintaining the cosmic balance.

Chukwu is more of an impersonal god - a god of the philosophers and the deist - rather than a personal god.

When Igbo Christians refer to Judeo-christian God as 'Chukwu', I'm perplexed. There is no relationship between Jehovah and Chukwu. The characters of both gods differ. The Jewish God is a very personal god, tribalistic, petty - he can butcher little kids for mocking an old bald man. He is claimed to be involved in the everyday affairs of men, he is viciously jealous of other gods and has threatened mankind with eternal fire for daring to ignore him.

Addressing the Jewish God as Chukwu is inappropriate and a mark of ignorance! This happens when a people refuses to teach their children their own stories and mythology but would rather teach them stories of far away cultures and lands.

joseph1013:
QUESTION 4 (COMPULSORY) (20 marks)

God is hidden because:

1) He loves us so much that he wants to be sure we love him too. Despite knowing everything, he can only be sure we love him by making people earnestly seek him. The unfortunate side-effect of this is that billions of people he dearly loves will not manage to find him and will have to be punished by being roasted in fire for ever. He truly believes this is a price worth paying to be sure of something he knows anyway. Remember, whatever happens, God loves you.

OR

2) He does not exist.

noblefada:


Can you please stop this ignorant posts already! Writing so confidently about a God you know nothing about. At least get the right knowledge about the God first, rather than wasting many years posting irrelevant questions and jibes based on rumors you've heard about God.
Go to www.livingwordmedia.org and get the requisite knowledge, the teachings are free to download.

joseph1013:


I have been to better sites than the one you just referred me to. I love a good debate. Can you tell us what you have against the post you quoted?

NB: This dude sent me to a funny website where they ask for payment via an online transaction. LOL

lol

joseph1013:


I have been to better sites than the one you just referred me to. I love a good debate. Can you tell us what you have against the post you quoted?

NB: This dude sent me to a funny website where they ask for payment via an online transaction. LOL

PastorAIO:


No how no how, they must try to scam some money out of people shaaa...

HomoSapiien:


lol

joseph1013:


As in...when there is MMM where they can try their luck before it crashes. Oh...I hear they even preach the gospel of MMM in church nowadays. It's always about the money. LOL

joseph1013:


I have been to better sites than the one you just referred me to. I love a good debate. Can you tell us what you have against the post you quoted?

NB: This dude sent me to a funny website where they ask for payment via an online transaction. LOL

noblefada:


Haba! Be truthful, the content of the website is totally free and thousands all over the world have been downloading materials from the website free of charge (you can check up on the statistics of the website). The payment platform was requested by folks that have benefited from the website and specially ask for an opportunity to give back. Go and check, every material on that website can be downloaded without paying a dime. I think you should double check things before you post it on a public forum.

Did you download any of the material I referred you to? The thing I've against your post is that it is born from a mind that have no knowledge of who God is. It is due to a lack of or a seriously skewed knowledge about the personality of God.
I'm sorry I'll not engage you in any debate because our knowledge of the subject matter is totally opposite and too far apart hence the debate will not be fruitful. It's like for instance asking you who has a PhD in Quantum Physics coming to debate with me a diploma holder in music on the subject of life. It is going to an uneventful and unproductive debate.

Remember I said you knowledge about God is seriously lacking or very skewed! Let me give you a snippet of what I'm talking about, it is from one on the teaching I referred you to, The Law in Genesis Series 2 track 3. Please I beg of you listen, be patient and afterward lets talk.
I tried uploading the track but it's large, is there a way I can email it to you?

Shalom

The strangest coincidences of your life probably aren’t that strange at all
By Ana Swanson November 2 at 12:14 PM

Mathematician Joseph Mazur was in the back of a van snaking through the mountains of Sardinia when he heard one of his favorite coincidence stories. The driver, an Italian language teacher named Francesco, told of meeting a woman named Manuela who had come to study at his school. Francesco and Manuela met for the first time in a hotel lobby, and then went to have coffee.

They spoke for an hour, getting acquainted, before the uncomfortable truth came out. Noting Manuela’s nearly perfect Italian, Francesco finally asked why she decided to come to his school.

“She said, ‘Italian? What are you talk about? I’m not here to learn Italian,’” Mazur relates. “And then it dawned on both of them that she was the wrong Manuela and he was the wrong Francesco.” They returned to the hotel lobby where they had met to find a different Francesco offering a different Manuela a job she didn’t want or expect.

The tale is one of the many stories that populate Mazur’s new book, “Fluke,” in which he explores the probability of coincidences.

Mazur argues that most of the coincidences we experience -- like stumbling into a close friend halfway around the world, meeting someone with the same birthday, or even dreaming of an event before it happens -- can be explained by simple mathematics. If coincidences seem so surprising to us, it's because people often fail to understand how the basic laws of probability work.

The chance of meeting someone with your birthday

For example, you might be surprised to meet someone who shares your birthday. But should you be?

Mathematicians call this "the birthday problem," and they usually phrase it like this: How big of a group of people do you have to assemble before there’s a 50-50 chance that two of the people share the same birthday? If you haven’t heard this problem before, take a guess now before reading further.

Right away, you know that if you assemble a group of 366 people, there's 100 percent probability that two people will have the same birthday -- since there are only 365 days in a year, excluding leap year. But the probability is still almost certain with a much smaller group than that.

For this problem, it's easier to look at the opposite case, the probability that no two people in a room have the same birthday. To figure out the probability of two independent events occurring together, like two people being born on the same day, you need to multiply the probabilities of each event. So the probability that two people do not share the same birthday is 365/365 x 364/365.

That equals about 99.7 percent -- meaning that, with just two people, it's very likely neither will have the same birthday. The probability that three random people do not share the same birthday is 99.18 percent.

But as you add people to this equation, the probability that no two people are born on the same day starts to fall, first gradually, and then sharply. With five people, it's 97.3 percent. At 15 people, it's 74.7 percent. And to get better than even odds (50 percent or more) that two people in the room have the same birthday, you only have to assemble 23 people.

It might seem strange that that number is so low, but consider this -- every person you add to the mix is compared independently with every other person in the group. Among 23 people, there are 253 potential pairings -- which creates a lot of potential for two people to share a birthday.

As the graph below shows, by the time you reach 60 people, it's close to certain that the group will contain a birthday match.

[img]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2016/11/probability.png&w=1484[/img]

The problem has interesting practical applications -- for example, figuring out how likely it is that the FBI's database of genetic material contains random matches between people. While the kind of DNA readings that are used to convict suspects in criminal cases are highly unique, studies have shown that the chance of a random match between two unrelated people may be higher than convicting juries assume.

The chance of a monkey writing Shakespeare

Mazur discusses another problem that tells you a lot about how people misunderstand probabilities: the monkey problem, which originated with mathematician Emile Borel.


In 1913, Borel decided to tackle an age-old question about randomness, Mazur says. “He asked the question, ‘Could totally random events amount to something meaningful?’ And the popular rendition of the question soon became, ‘Could a monkey randomly hitting the keys of a keyboard type out a Shakespearean sonnet?’”

You’ve probably heard the question before – it’s become widespread in pop culture, including in this Simpson’s clip from 1993, in which Mr. Burns keeps a roomful of monkeys hammering away on typewriters, in hope of creating the next great work of literature:


Borel's answer to the monkey problems was, essentially, yes -- a monkey will eventually type out a Shakespearean sonnet, though it could take a very long time. As Mazur says, the probability of a monkey randomly typing "shall" -- as in "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day" -- is in itself nearly 1 in 12 million.

But if the monkey tries many, many times, or more fellow monkeys join it in its endeavor, that probability starts to drop. With 8.2 million tries, the monkey has a better than even chance of typing the word "shall."

This same principle is used in brute force attempts to crack passwords, in which algorithms use trial and error methods to quickly run through potential password combinations. This is why longer passwords are so much more secure than shorter ones, just as it's much harder for the monkey to type out a sonnet than the word "shall."

Why coincidences are so surprising

A central argument of Mazur’s book is that people tend to make several common mistakes when thinking about probabilities.

For example, think of probability estimate like FiveThirtyEight's 2016 Election Forecast, which in early November showed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton with a 70 percent chance of winning and Republican candidate Donald Trump with a 30 percent chance. Many people look at a lopsided probability like that and assume that a Clinton win is all but assured. And if Donald Trump were to be victorious, some might assume FiveThirtyEight got it wrong.


But that's not, of course, how probability works. With more than a one-in-four chance, Donald Trump could still easily win the 2016 election.

Another reason people tend to misunderstand probability is our selective attention -- we notice and remember coincidences, but we hardly ever heed their absence. Think of all the people you've met who don't share your birthday, for example. It's a huge number in comparison to those who do share it. After meeting so many people who don't share your birthday, you're bound to meet someone who does.

This is a point that's illustrated by the monkey problem -- as the number of trials rises, even very rare events have a high likelihood of occurring.

Something similar happens with the Francesco and Manuela story. It seems like a strange event, but as you add in other pairs of popular names, and other hotel lobbies around the world, the probability of an incident of this type occurring begins to grow.

“The mistaken identity event is more common than we think because numbers behind them are larger than we imagine," Mazur writes. "[I]f we include all the hotel lobbies of the entire world, our number would grow so large that we should be certain that two pairs of people will have a mistaken identity meeting in some hotel lobby (I would guess) somewhere every hour!”

This tendency to overestimate or underestimate particular numbers is what gives rise to our great surprise at many coincidences. As Mazur writes, “we are often deceived by the magnitude of our world.” With so many chance events occurring to so many people around the world, stunning coincidences are only natural.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/02/why-lifes-strangest-coincidences-really-arent-that-strange-at-all/