tomzman:
Sometimes, I'm tempted to ask God why He made me a Nigerian. When would we learn to think outside the box. A project that sure to b abandoned is what is making some morons shout GEJ till 2019. I wonder wen Nigerians would come out of our folly. You all should take a trip to Germany and see wat a railway system looks like. Rubbish!

olajide8:


Broz nothing concerns me with your opinion but I must point something out to you- this project is a just a proposal on paper- have they put it out for tender consultancy, to cover the technical drawings and consultancy of the architectural design of the project to cover the whole terrain, have they done a comprehensive study of the profitability, which of the lines would they commence with? what is the EIA's of the project on the communities and area's it would go through ?- when would they start? from where to where? Before they start to think of expanding - how would the contract be financed? Loans or taxes - who are those they would train to operate and man such sophisticated equipment - do we have power? For sub-station running- please stop deceiving us* we know the truth and the day you accept the truth, it would set you free-

londoner:


You still didn't answer my question.

Its a wonder that even with pics of completed track, some still think its just a proposal on paper, even with the wealth of info about funding etc, some are still asking about funding?

Anyhoo......

olajide8:


Well I am not an engineer nor a valuer so I can't give you answers to that, but I am a broker and I should be able to access risk, look at investments - look at the ROI for such projects and state if it's profitable or not- building the abuja light rail track has taken them 6years and it still has left the ground thou they have moved them 3km's in it and they believe the project is almost complete- going back to your statement between lagos and some other states should not take more then 2yrs - If they start with that and show us proposal then we know where they are going- but they say 25yrs and people swallow it and tell me they are performing Something must be sincerely wrong with our thinking faculty - if we believe this!!

The project is designed to cover 54
stations and will take 25 years to build.

londoner:


The whole point is that Nigeria will become more connected by rail, ALL regions not that as per usual Lagos is made the focus. I'd take the 25 years of simultaneous rail development across Nigeria, including lagos thanks.

If Nigeria is to truly to stand up as a country, all regions must be considered and we need to start thinking as a nation.

olajide8:


The returns on investment of this particular project is negative - considering the fact that economies of country exchange rates change, technology is changing - I would tell you honestly from my own point of view that if this project can not be finished with 3-4yrs - so if technology change we can adapt then it's a waste, because by the time the project finally gets off the trains would be obsolete the tracks may have change from standard to maybe a mono-rail so it can turn easily with possibly the train running without fuel but on nuclear powered uranium meaning they would not need light fuel charcoal and once they are powered on they can stay on for years burning the same fuel - moving at jet speed- the reasons are endless*

londoner:


Well tracks dont just carry passenger trains. Goods can no longer be transported across Nigeria, by road alone. One freight train can replace soooo many lorries on the road. In Nigeria that translates to less overturned lorries with multiple casualties. It will also save time and money in transporting of goods in large volumes, including oil.

We all know the number of oil tankers on the road that have caused multiple fatalities.

Rail freight operators will also pay tax to the government.

I think Nigeria really needs this development, to be honest.

olajide8:

Yes nigeria need honest developments, but would you build a high speed train just to move petroleum products or grains how economical is that? Considering the cost of fare for such mobility, humans yes! Petroleum products no! They should go with the old train carriages it's cheaper! - do you have an idea of how much people pay to board those trains? It's like going by air- it's expensive even in China!

Raikishi:
Oga how many years did it take to build dubai?


Senators with 29million naira salary and overpriced projects given to foreign governments that will deliver obsolete technology in 25 years that will not be sustainable and nigerians are celebrating mediocrity... what a foolish nation.

londoner:


The track can take both commuter trains and freight, no?

When I wait for a train to take me into sentral London, freight trains, using the same track also pass. Do you dont think trains are a bad idea anywhere else in the world, whether for people or/and goods

The project is designed to cover 54 stations and will take 25 years to build.

rodbel:


http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5717556-146/story.csp

By Emmanuel Ogala
June 19, 2011 03:19PM

In the early hours of June 28 in Shanghai China, while Nigeria will still be sleeping, a Chinese high speed train will take off with passengers to Beijing, bringing the country's longest high speed railway service into commercial use.

The Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway is a 1,318 kilometres network that connects two major economic zones in the People's Republic of China. It is the world's longest high-speed line ever constructed in a single phase.

Construction on the rail line began on April 18, 2008, two-and-a-half years after Nigeria's transport ministry signed an $8.3 billion contract with the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC) to reconstruct the 1,315 kilometre Lagos - Kano railway under the watch of former president, Olusegun Obasanjo.

A ceremony to mark the completion of track laying for the Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway was held on November 15, 2010. It took the Chinese exactly two years and eight months to complete theirs. Nigeria's network is three kilometres shorter than the Chinese. It is also a relatively unsophisticated system, meant to carry basic speed locomotive trains. But it is far from finished, five years after the contract was signed.

The Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway project cost the country about $32 billion. It has 24 stations, 22 tunnels and 244 bridges - including the 164-km long Danyang-Kunshan Grand Bridge which is the longest bridge in the world.

Designers of China's high-speed railway network say the trains will run at a speed of 350 km/h, with a maximum speed of up to 380 km/h which would cut the train travel time between Beijing and Shanghai from 10 hours to 4.8 hours.

"Its technology is advanced, its quality reliable and safety guaranteed," China's deputy rail minister, Hu Yadong, told reporters on Monday in Beijing. "The technical reliability of the line, as measured by international criteria, is world class!"

Comparatively, this network is a thousand times more sophisticated than the Lagos-Kano railway. But even though Nigeria's project is handled - now in part - by the Chinese, it will hardly be completed soon.




Come to think of it 25years to construct a 3,218km network while they built 1,318km network in 2years 8months.

Originalsly:
Reality check.....Apple has just designed a top of the line Iphone that will take 25 years to build ....when it hits the market in 2040 it will be the world class must have phone.

The project is designed to cover 54 stations and will take 25 years to build.

2cato:
APC minions come and tell us ur own version of the cost and benefit of the railways to the development of nigeria economy.

kendrick9:
lmao.. who are they deceiving... railway is dead and buried in nigeria...

olajide8:

And these high speed trains are they for freight - check them well and read them up- no one is saying the tracks can't be used for other carriages - what we are saying is if you would do high speed trains and you say it would be delivered in 25yrs to move humans and freight then for next 25yrs we are not moving forward