Wait let me ask IFA olokun asoro dayo

He ate apple or be became smarter than the average angel thus questioning why one person would be in charge of heaven and earth

Good question, but they can never give you a reasonable answer.

A lot of questions without answer in the bible.

For example, why put that tree in the garden of Eden knowing fully well what it can cause?

Youngsage:

No evil can enter into heaven. All the angelic beings are created pure and blameless, so the moment Satan became proud as a result of His own thoughts, he lost his place in heaven. Seems you had difficulty tryin to get what I was trying to pass across in those two lines. Sorry abt that

where you there? What you quoting

ooman:


Ok, so god's perfect creation has an inherent corruption.
Then god's not perfect to begin with.

People think that God is all good. You forget that God defines what is good and evil. He is the author and death of everything. Remember that he is a jealous being too who punished the Jews several times severely for worshiping other beings. Just follow his Word and you'll be ok.

Pr0ton:


If Satan was created blameless and pure, but yet sinned... Then God "should take heed lest He falls"

reading through ur post I knw u dnt believe in God,but I ask u this,r u sayin witches and wizards are folk tales too??bro if witches do exist then there are higher powers,ask ur self how u suddenly came into d world,look around u see the way tins works in and outside this planet.they all follow a process life is no fluke sometin is responsible for all these so bro change ur school of thought #peace.

Mavor:
He was not an Archangel. He was a Seraphim, Seraphims are the first of the nine celestial orders of angels: Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominions, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Archangels and Angels. One of the few angels then allowed to stand in the presence of God and look upon God and not be blinded by God's Glory.

Like every sentient being God created, he was given free will and chose wrongly.

This is baseless in this context.

The Problem of Evil, philosophy will say, if God is infintely God and perfect, from where then did Evil come from, does that mean that God does not have the power to stop evil, ot does it mean that he graeted Evil, or did someone add Evil to the perfect creation and that means that someone else also have the power to creat. But I being a christian and a philosophy student, I have decided within myself that to believe that God did not create Evil but that he made man free and gave him the will to power. He gave the angels power and freedom. Gave them wisdom to know what is good and bad. Lucifer knew what was good and out of his free will, choose pride which led to his downfall. Having fallen, he decided to caltivate more evil.

It came from within him.

Gen 3:22

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

From that you should know the angels knew good from evil which means evil existed. Now you should know that for Good to exist there must be evil and evil didn't originate from Devil however he was the first angel to exhibit it in heaven.

This is one hell of a question.....and I don't think anybody can answer it. People have made bold attempts but nobody can satisfactorily explain the original source of all sin

Lol.

Interesting thread with a lot of questions that have no logical answers.

The mistake we make as humans is applying the way we think to heavenly matters where it doesn't apply.

Granted, Christianity is filled with a lot of mysteries we will never understand so I think its best we leave it. As humans, our understanding will always be limited.

The important thing is to strive as much as possible to be blameless in life, love your fellow man. Arguments such as these are like the argument of the chicken and the egg: it never ends.

Weselion:
It was not an evil spirit, it was pride. When God Creates a living thing, he allows them make choices. Angels knew how powerful God was and know the consequence of not worshiping him, the Devil wanted to face the consequence. Even human beings have a choice, its either you worship God or the Devil but there are bad consequences when you worship the devil.

Given your assertions the devil has no blame whatsoever for our wrongdoings.
Man is ultimstely responsible for his thoughts,actions and inactions full stop.

MISSCONGENIALITY:
The Problem of Evil, philosophy will say, if God is infintely God and perfect, from where then did Evil come from, does that mean that God does not have the power to stop evil, ot does it mean that he graeted Evil, or did someone add Evil to the perfect creation and that means that someone else also have the power to creat. But I being a christian and a philosophy student, I have decided within myself that to believe that God did not create Evil but that he made man free and gave him the will to power. He gave the angels power and freedom. Gave them wisdom to know what is good and bad. Lucifer knew what was good and out of his free will, choose pride which led to his downfall. Having fallen, he decided to caltivate more evil.

But if Lucifer was corrupted, doesn't it mean evil pre-existed him? Is there a different father of evil we don't know about?

Longstride:


isn't our pride and other evil tendencies from the devil?
The question is, where did the devil's original pride and evil come from, who tempted him to sin?... Except you wanna say we were created with pride, and other negative traits.

ask am

This will answer your question though its very critical




WHY DID GOD CREATE

...Day and night?
Why didn't he create day only?

Youngsage:

- He wasn't just a devoted angel, he was very very powerful. As a matter of fact, he was an Archangel, the most powerful of the three that God created.
He was a magnificent being , with more intellect, wisdom, ability and beauty than the other angelic beings, was awesome to behold. No wonder God named him Lucifer which means 'Day Star' or 'Son of The Morning'.
To cut the long story short, it got to a point that he became discontent with his position, even as the angel of worship/music director in heaven, and prominence and wanted to overthrow God. His downfall began because Pride entered his heart, and because of his power, he got some angels on his side, one third of all the angels, this then led to a war between lucifer and his men, and the other archangel/angels.
He was defeated, and together with the fallen angels, was banished from Heaven and God changed his name to Satan/Devil meaning 'adversary', and these fallen angels are known today as Demons... And so on.

The spirit that polluted Satan, came from Satan himself, it entered him- from him that moment he allowed Pride take over him. Hence the origin of sin originated from the creation, not the creator. Never.
Although Satan, or Lucifer was not created evil, he originated His own sin which which was pride and rebellion against God.
The same sin Adam commited. Rebellion- deliberately disobeying God's intsruction- The first or original sin- on Earth...

my guy you need to be educated. All these your explanations were fabricated by human beings like you. Live a good life and or else you will suffer any bad or evil you have done. That is the law of nature. Don't be deceived by anybody both pastor or baba lawo

saymalcolm:
Lol.

Interesting thread with a lot of questions that have no logical answers.

The mistake we make as humans is applying the way we think to heavenly matters where it doesn't apply.

Granted, Christianity is filled with a lot of mysteries we will never understand so I think its best we leave it. As humans, our understanding will always be limited.

The important thing is to strive as much as possible to be blameless in life, love your fellow man. Arguments such as these are like the argument of the chicken and the egg: it never ends.

Lil, you are very correct. However, it is an important question because it is core to our Christian faith. I know it's a question nobody can answer but it does throw a shadow of doubt to the story of the origin of sin as we know it.

jonescyras:
This will answer your question though its very critical




WHY DID GOD CREATED

...Day and night?

So if I get you correctly, you're insinuating that God created both good and evil?

emmyrichie:


This is baseless in this context.

You obviously can't read well.

Simple Answer: God supposedly created all things, which means he also created evil.

johnydon22:


so pride was not evil
the question is Where did the pride originate from, was he created with pride

can you tell me where the earth originated from and do not give me that big bang theory ish..cos it won't sell
youngsage had educated you enough already

falseman:
Gen 3:22

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

From that you should know the angels knew good from evil which means evil existed. Now you should know that for Good to exist there must be evil and evil didn't originate from Devil however he was the first angel to exhibit it in heaven.

now you've truely answered the question!

Collynzo9:
Good question, but they can never give you a reasonable answer.

A lot of questions without answer in the bible.

For example, why put that tree in the garden of Eden knowing fully well what it can cause?

who are u to question God??if u have a 5yrs old child,u keep a gallon of fuel at ur backyard and warn ur child not to go near it.then u come home one day and ur child has drank from d gallon,u ask him y he didn't listen to u and he says it was ur neigbour that told him to do it.won't u punish d childor u wud prefer someone askin u stupid question y u kept fuel in at ur backyard??

Question for d gods and oracles of your village.

Weselion:
It was not an evil spirit, it was pride. When God Creates a living thing, he allows them make choices. Angels knew how powerful God was and know the consequence of not worshiping him, the Devil wanted to face the consequence. Even human beings have a choice, its either you worship God or the Devil but there are bad consequences when you worship the devil.

So...

What you are saying is that God created all things and gave them choices.. But if he angels "choose" not to obey him, there are consequences..

So like the White slave owners gave their slaves choices.. But if they chose not to obey their white masters there were consequences.

Hmmmm... Thanks for the clarification.

from God the maker of all things of course. But these things can only be understood thru faith

No evil spirit corrupts any being be it human or whatever beng that exists.
All crearures all if you like call them beings that has been endowed with the ability to think rationally is capable of knowing good from bad.
Note that the word good or bad is a relative word anwhich real import derives from the situation/context in which it is used.