Ajuran:



You and I both know that Somalis see Negroids as slaves. Yet here you are talking about Somalis, not to mention that thousands of threads discussing Somalis/Ethiopians DNA,Genetics,Race,Culture,History,Women,etc.

Sit down and eat your fufu.

Who takes you serious though?Even in Africa, who? AMISOM will educate you on modern day realities.

Ajuran:



Alshabaab and The Government has the same agenda. They want all Somalis to be in the same country meaning they want Ogadenia and Northern Kenya. They want closer ties to Muslim countries, and less ties to AU. This is a fact as anyone will tell you. The only difference is the current government has people who have suits instead of Islamic attire. It's called Somali nationalism, the same policies were pursued by even the uber liberal military government that held power from 1969-1991 who went to war with Ethiopia to get Ogadenia.

Yet the Somali government want AMISOM to hunt down Ai-Shabaab?
Face facts the Somali government wants and needs AMISOM troops/AU. It is what it is!

gallivant:


Who takes you serious though?Even in Africa, who? AMISOM will educate you on modern day realities.

AMISOM is nothing without western funding. AMISOM was only brought as a negotiation tool so Somali lives lost could be reduced and supplemented with cheap Bantu blood.


In the end, Somalis win. You guys will be kicked out, and nothing will change as any government in Somalia is beholden to so many factions such as religious leaders and clan elders who number in the thousands, that Somalis destiny and path is inevitable and interwined not with Bantus. But Bantus are seen as an Enemy.

Every Somali knows this, but not every Bantu knows this. Every Ethiopian knows that they are valued higher than the primates in the southern regions who are Negroid, but not every Negroid knows what Cushitic people know and believe.

BlackKenichi:

Yet the Somali government want AMISOM to hunt down Ai-Shabaab?
Face facts the Somali government wants and needs AMISOM troops/AU. It is what it is!

If Alshabaab was in government they would be using AU to hunt down those who are in government. Your logic makes no sense. There was a time when those who are now Alshabaaab ran the government and were called the Islamic courts, their agenda is no different than the one being pursued by the Somali government.


If you look at the current Somali governments policies such as introducing Arabic as a second official language, signing deals with egypt for military partnership, receiving aid and infrastructure help form Turkey, and sending thousands of young Somalis who will be future leaders into Arab Universities, all this points the current governments long term plan, which it would not put into place without support from the people.

Sit down, and worry about jungle politics in Ebola ridden Bantu countries.

This U.K. research instutition shows that Somalis had one of the Oldest laws and the oldest still in use today which is Xeer. Notice that the only laws in Africa were in Somalia, Ethiopia and Egypt. I wonder what they have in common? Same region, Egypt traded with Ethiopia, and Punt and same E1B1B.


You cannot even compare Somalis/Ethiopians to Bantus when it comes to history. You guys are a insignificance. Your chapter of contribution to civilization is just being started today, as you were nothing more than slaves before 1900's.
http://www.spl.ids.ac.uk/printpdf/book/export/html/212

Xeer is a polycentric legal system that exists until today in Somalia. Under this system, elders serve as judges and help mediate cases using precedents. In line with the Somali nation being a traditionally stateless society no authority dictates the law. Xeer law and, consequently, crime are defined in terms of property rights. Because violations of property rights requires compensation, rather than punishment, there is no imprisonment, and fines are rare and are payable to victims not to courts or a government.


There is no victimless crime because only victims or their families can initiate cases. Every person must be fully insured against any liability he might incur under the law. If an individual cannot make the required payment, a designated group of his kin is responsible. There is no monopoly of police or judicial services. Anyone is free to serve in those capacities as long as he is not at the same time a religious or political dignitary, since that would compromise the sharp separation of law, politics, and religion.

Every Somali has the head of his extended family nominated at birth to be his own judge that will sit on any court that judges him should he transgress the law throughout his life. According to scholars Xeer developed in the Horn of Africa without external influence and it takes its place alongside the Roman, Jewish and English that are considered to be the great legal systems of the world.

Ajuran:



AMISOM is nothing without western funding. AMISOM was only brought as a negotiation tool so Somali lives lost could be reduced and supplemented with cheap Bantu blood.

The UN and the West was against the AMISOM intervention.The AU stepped in and gave us the right.We are funding our armies, we are not Somalia.

In the end, Somalis win. You guys will be kicked out, and nothing will change as any government in Somalia is beholden to so many factions such as religious leaders and clan elders who number in the thousands, that Somalis destiny and path is inevitable and interwined not with Bantus. But Bantus are seen as an Enemy.

Kick us out like the Americans if you can.What's taking so long? lol

Every Somali knows this, but not every Bantu knows this. Every Ethiopian knows that they are valued higher than the primates in the southern regions who are Negroid, but not every Negroid knows what Cushitic people know and believe.

Ethiopians look down on you.They think you are stupid.They run Ogaden with an iron fist, kicked out your former leaders Islamic courts etc.At the end of the day Somalis are the punchline.

Ajuran:

If Alshabaab was in government they would be using AU to hunt down those who are in government. Your logic makes no sense. There was a time when those who are now Alshabaaab ran the government and were called the Islamic courts, their agenda is no different than the one being pursued by the Somali government.

Wrong! Al-Shabaab are deemed terrorist by the AU. The AU would never help them out.

Ajuran:
If you look at the current Somali governments policies such as introducing Arabic as a second official language, signing deals with egypt for military partnership, receiving aid and infrastructure help form Turkey, and sending thousands of young Somalis who will be future leaders into Arab Universities, all this points the current governments long term plan, which it would not put into place without support from the people.

So fucking what?

Ajuran:
Sit down, and worry about jungle politics in Ebola ridden Bantu countries.

Just grow a brain and jaw! You have no idea the workings of East Africa in general.

Ajuran:
Xeer is a polycentric legal system that exists until today in Somalia. Under this system, elders serve as judges and help mediate cases using precedents. In line with the Somali nation being a traditionally stateless society no authority dictates the law. Xeer law and, consequently, crime are defined in terms of property rights. Because violations of property rights requires compensation, rather than punishment, there is no imprisonment, and fines are rare and are payable to victims not to courts or a government.


There is no victimless crime because only victims or their families can initiate cases. Every person must be fully insured against any liability he might incur under the law. If an individual cannot make the required payment, a designated group of his kin is responsible. There is no monopoly of police or judicial services. Anyone is free to serve in those capacities as long as he is not at the same time a religious or political dignitary, since that would compromise the sharp separation of law, politics, and religion.

Every Somali has the head of his extended family nominated at birth to be his own judge that will sit on any court that judges him should he transgress the law throughout his life. According to scholars Xeer developed in the Horn of Africa without external influence and it takes its place alongside the Roman, Jewish and English that are considered to be the great legal systems of the world.

What did I tell you about people not caring about failures? You are a slow learner!

BlackKenichi:

Wrong! Al-Shabaab are deemed terrorist by the AU. The AU would never help them out.


So fucking what?


Just grow a brain and jaw! You have no idea the workings of East Africa in general.

I think as the product of a Somali lineage, who have had free reign on the entire region of Horn of Africa, I would know the politics of the region specific to the Horn of Africa.

We have so much history that hundreds of books have been written about our culture, our customary laws, language, etc.

Bantus have accomplished nothing. Zip. Zero.


It doesnt matter who the AU deems a terrorist, The AU can be kicked out of Somalia tomorrow if the government wants it or if westerners stop footing the bill. Remember that AU do as the Somali government tell them.


You have gotten into your head that AU is actually some type of actual power holder, it gets the permission of the Somali government to do anything, gets equipment and funding from the west, and because of Somalis hate for Negroid features, the spokesperson in charge was replaced and a Somali from Djibouti military is in charge.

Sit down, your like a clown running around.

Ajuran:



I think as the product of a Somali lineage, who have had free reign on the entire region of Horn of Africa, I would know the politics of the region specific to the Horn of Africa.

We have so much history that hundreds of books have been written about our culture, our customary laws, language, etc.

Bantus have accomplished nothing. Zip. Zero.


It doesnt matter who the AU deems a terrorist, The AU can be kicked out of Somalia tomorrow if the government wants it or if westerners stop footing the bill. Remember that AU do as the Somali government tell them.


You have gotten into your head that AU is actually some type of actual power holder, it gets the permission of the Somali government to do anything, gets equipment and funding from the west, and because of Somalis hate for Negroid features, the spokesperson in charge was replaced and a Somali from Djibouti military is in charge.

Sit down, your like a clown running around.

Cool story bro! LOL you make it too easy..

gallivant:


What did I tell you about people not caring about failures? You are a slow learner!

I am a university student in the states, and have sadly taken African History in order to meet graduation requirements. Let me tell you it was a joke. You had some African American kwanza worshipping Negroid talking for an entire semester on the achievements of Egyptians, Somalis, Ethiopians. That was literally it. Nothing note worthy happened in West Africa except you guys getting enslaved. In the horn, you had note worthy stuff.

1. The migration out of Africa
2. Horn Africans leaving to North Africa
3. Trade between Egypt and the Horn
4. Wars between Egypt and Axum
5. The invention of coffee, trade of spices to asia
6. The conquest of Ethiopia by Somalis
7. Portugal being defeated by Somalis/Ottomans
8. First war in Africa to use Cannons
9. The rise of the only country in Africa not to be colonized (Ethiopia)
10. First country in Africa to be bombed by planes (Somalia)
11. The first laws in humanity came into existence in Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt
12. Ethiopia defeated Italy in war
13. First Country in Africa to have leadership change because of elections (Somalia)
14. Only countries to have native language as national language in Africa (Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea)
15. The first Africans to control people outside of Africa (Axum controlling yemen and saudis arabia)
16. The home where Islam sought refuge (Somalia- city of Zeila)
17. The country with the most widely copied flag (Ethiopian flag)
18. The longest coast in Africa (Somalia)
19. The oldest and continuing country (Ethiopia)
20. Second oldest Christian Country (Ethiopia)
21. Oldest cave paintings found (Somalia)
22. Oldest human bones found (Ethiopia)
23. The only country to have one language, religion (Somalia)
24. Capital of the African Union (Ethiopia)
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Ajuran:

I think as the product of a Somali lineage, who have had free reign on the entire region of Horn of Africa, I would know the politics of the region specific to the Horn of Africa.

Yet you said Al-Shabaab would use the AU.

Ajuran:
We have so much history that hundreds of books have been written about our culture, our customary laws, language, etc.

Which nobody gives a f*ck about!

Ajuran:
Bantus have accomplished nothing. Zip. Zero.

Great Zimbawe, The Kongo kingdom, Mapangubwe, The Lunda Kingdom say otherwise.

Ajuran:
It doesnt matter who the AU deems a terrorist, The AU can be kicked out of Somalia tomorrow if the government wants it or if westerners stop footing the bill. Remember that AU do as the Somali government tell them.

If the AMISOM troops do get kicked out, Somalia is doomed. The Somali government are still too weak to hold power. The AU can't afford to let the Islamo-Fascists have their way, it would endanger other countries in Africa and embolden the terrorists.

Ajuran:
You have gotten into your head that AU is actually some type of actual power holder, it gets the permission of the Somali government to do anything, gets equipment and funding from the west, and because of Somalis hate for Negroid features, the spokesperson in charge was replaced and a Somali from Djibouti military is in charge.

They are. They kicked out Al-Shabaab, they're patrolling the cities.

Ajuran:
Sit down, your like a clown running around.

Grow an iron chin like a Jamaican...................Oops you can't! Much like the Arab fuckboys you love so much no iron will or chins have been implanted into your DNA.

BlackKenichi:

Yet you said Al-Shabaab would use the AU.


Which nobody gives a f*ck about!


Great Zimbawe, The Kongo kingdom, Mapangubwe, The Lunda Kingdom say otherwise.



If the AMISOM troops do get kicked out, Somalia is doomed. The Somali government are still too weak to hold power. The AU can't afford to let the Islamo-Fascists have their way, it would endanger other countries in Africa and embolden the terrorists.


They are. They kicked out Al-Shabaab, they're patrolling the cities.


Grow an iron chin like a Jamaican...................Oops you can't! Much like the Arab fuckboys you love so much no iron will or chins have been implanted into your DNA.

It's sad when a Bantu things they know more of what is hopping on the ground in the country where my family still lives. If the Somali government was truly appreciative of Bantus they would show it. Instead of giving lucrative no bid contracts to Turkey to build hospitals, universities, train the police and military.


Your only tie to Somalia is a bunch of Soldiers in barricades who guard supply lines and are shot at, and constantly get rotated while being called Adoon by little kids. Somali foreign policy is not going to change by a few Bantus who are paid by the west. Thousands of years of Relgion, Culture, ties and history will not suddenly create new found love for Bantus.

To wake up from your dream and see the reality would cause you too much pain, as you are so heavily invested in a fake dream in which the main actor is Somalia/Ethiopia/Eritrea the very people whose farms you would be harvesting as a slave if it were not for the White man, who himself set you free out of pity.

Ajuran:





I am a university student in the states, and have sadly taken African History in order to meet graduation requirements. Let me tell you it was a joke. You had some African American kwanza worshipping Negroid talking for an entire semester on the achievements of Egyptians, Somalis, Ethiopians. That was literally it. Nothing note worthy happened in West Africa except you guys getting enslaved. In the horn, you had note worthy stuff.

1. The migration out of Africa
2. Horn Africans leaving to North Africa
3. Trade between Egypt and the Horn
4. Wars between Egypt and Axum
5. The invention of coffee, trade of spices to asia
6. The conquest of Ethiopia by Somalis
7. Portugal being defeated by Somalis/Ottomans
8. First war in Africa to use Cannons
9. The rise of the only country in Africa not to be colonized (Ethiopia)
10. First country in Africa to be bombed by planes (Somalia)
11. The first laws in humanity came into existence in Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt
12. Ethiopia defeated Italy in war
13. First Country in Africa to have leadership change because of elections (Somalia)
14. Only countries to have native language as national language in Africa (Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea)
15. The first Africans to control people outside of Africa (Axum controlling yemen and saudis arabia)
16. The home where Islam sought refuge (Somalia- city of Zeila)
17. The country with the most widely copied flag (Ethiopian flag)
18. The longest coast in Africa (Somalia)
19. The oldest and continuing country (Ethiopia)
20. Second oldest Christian Country (Ethiopia)
21. Oldest cave paintings found (Somalia)
22. Oldest human bones found (Ethiopia)

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Hahaha!

Quit bringing Ethiopians and Egyptians to make a case for Zoomalians.We both know how of a failure your people have been.

gallivant:


Hahaha!

Quit bringing Ethiopians and Egyptians to make a case for Zoomalians.We both know how of a failure your people have been.

Egypt was only mention to show its trade and war with the horn. During the time of Axum there were no ethnic groups like their are today, and the people of the horn had a common ancestor. The modern Somalis and Ethiopians are the people who came from the highlands of ethiopia thousands of years ago and populated the entire horn of africa. Thus the reason why the same language family is shared and the same genetics and features.

Ajuran:



It's sad when a Bantu things they know more of what is hopping on the ground in the country where my family still lives. If the Somali government was truly appreciative of Bantus they would show it. Instead of giving lucrative no bid contracts to Turkey to build hospitals, universities, train the police and military.

The Turks are doing it for free.You are poor and helpless.We already brought peace in Zoomalia why would we build you airports? Always begging, pathetic!

Your only tie to Somalia is a bunch of Soldiers in barricades who guard supply lines and are shot at, and constantly get rotated while being called Adoon by little kids. Somali foreign policy is not going to change by a few Bantus who are paid by the west. Thousands of years of Relgion, Culture, ties and history will not suddenly create new found love for Bantus.

We are their for the resources, we don't want your love.

To wake up from your dream and see the reality would cause you too much pain, as you are so heavily invested in a fake dream in which the main actor is Somalia/Ethiopia/Eritrea the very people whose farms you would be harvesting as a slave if it were not for the White man, who himself set you free out of pity.

And you say am the one dreaming? Hahaha!Poor you, life must be frustrating.

Ajuran:



Egypt was only mention to show its trade and war with the horn. During the time of Axum there were no ethnic groups like their are today, and the people of the horn had a common ancestor. The modern Somalis and Ethiopians are the people who came from the highlands of ethiopia thousands of years ago and populated the entire horn of africa. Thus the reason why the same language family is shared and the same genetics and features.

Fascinating tale, truly.Why is Somalia a failed state for the last decade? Do genetics have anything to do with it?

Ajuran:

It's sad when a Bantu things they know more of what is hopping on the ground in the country where my family still lives. If the Somali government was truly appreciative of Bantus they would show it. Instead of giving lucrative no bid contracts to Turkey to build hospitals, universities, train the police and military.

It's sad when a Somali keep denying reality. Its sad that you say Somalis are so great yet their land is in ruins. It must be sad for you to see those despised bantus curb stomping Al-Shabaab while those brave Somali army warriors couldn't do sh1t!

Ajuran:
Your only tie to Somalia is a bunch of Soldiers in barricades who guard supply lines and are shot at, and constantly get rotated while being called Adoon by little kids. Somali foreign policy is not going to change by a few Bantus who are paid by the west. Thousands of years of Relgion, Culture, ties and history will not suddenly create new found love for Bantus.

Nobody cares. Somalia will fall in line or let Al-Shabaab destroy it again!

Ajuran:
To wake up from your dream and see the reality would cause you too much pain, as you are so heavily invested in a fake dream in which the main actor is Somalia/Ethiopia/Eritrea the very people whose farms you would be harvesting as a slave if it were not for the White man, who himself set you free out of pity.

Ahh the glass jawed Arab and Somali compared to the Jamaican male. Jamaicans stronger, faster, smarter, better looking, far more durable and much more well known for his fighting and sexu@l prowess. Somalia was a shithole without the AMISOM troops. With themit might become something useful to the world.....................Might!

^ It was the Italians who outlawed slavery in Somalia. And it was one of the reasons used to invade ethiopia. Thus Ethiopia outlawed it during the war with Italy. This is fact and am not dreaming.

I have posted many historical articles, and I can if yo want.

gallivant:


Fascinating tale, truly.Why is Somalia a failed state for the last decade? Do genetics have anything to do with it?

Somalia has had two states functioning for the past 2 decades. And the southern region had clans that enforced traditional laws so their was no need to hurry inorder to form a functioning government.

Thus the reason why new states are being formed so the government is not centralized. If Bantus did not have a government they would all die out as they have no allies and system of governance. Somalis have received aid from the west and arabs, and used our ancient laws to continue semblance of law and order.

Ajuran:
^ It was the Italians who outlawed slavery in Somalia. And it was one of the reasons used to invade ethiopia. Thus Ethiopia outlawed it during the war with Italy. This is fact and am not dreaming.

I have posted many historical articles, and I can if yo want.

Nobody cares! Stop living in the past. Work on you country and genetics first!

Ajuran:


Somalia has had two states functioning for the past 2 decades. And the southern region had clans that enforced traditional laws so their was no need to hurry inorder to form a functioning government.

Thus the reason why new states are being formed so the government is not centralized. If Bantus did not have a government they would all die out as they have no allies and system of governance. Somalis have received aid from the west and arabs, and used our ancient laws to continue semblance of law and order.

hahaha..you are killing me tonight. How ancient are these laws of yours?

Slavery was Abolished by Italy when they came to Somalia. The Bantus were thus set free, but in reality were no better off as they were still farming as slaves with no rights. So you see, without the Italians Bantus would still be slaves in Somalia today.

Ajuran:


Somalia has had two states functioning for the past 2 decades. And the southern region had clans that enforced traditional laws so their was no need to hurry inorder to form a functioning government.

Thus the reason why new states are being formed so the government is not centralized. If Bantus did not have a government they would all die out as they have no allies and system of governance. Somalis have received aid from the west and arabs, and used our ancient laws to continue semblance of law and order.

Wow! Delusion at it's finest!

He should really check in a psych ward.

gallivant:


hahaha..you are killing me tonight.Cool stories all and all.

1. Islamic law, and Xeer traditional laws have been used for over a thousand years, and were still in practice

2. Somalia received billions of dollars in the last 20 years from gulf countries in Food Aid and Education


laughing must be your way of dismissing obvious facts which you have no intelligent rebuttal for. I can't blame you, your bantu mind cannot register many things that average humans have evolved to understand. Fundamentally, the idea of collegial debate centered on the idea that your opinions are not fact without respectable resources to back them up.

BlackKenichi:

Wow! Delusion at it's finest!

So describing the state of Puntland and Somaliland and their escape from lawlessness and Southern Somalis use of customary law is not delusional?
I apologize in assuming that you have received bachelor degrees from accredited bodies such as I have.

Ajuran:

1. Islamic law, and Xeer traditional laws have been used for over a thousand years, and were still in practice
2. Somalia received billions of dollars in the last 20 years from gulf countries in Food Aid and Education
laughing must be your way of dismissing obvious facts which you have no intelligent rebuttal for. I can't blame you, your bantu mind cannot register many things that average humans have evolved to understand. Fundamentally, the idea of collegial debate centered on the idea that your opinions are not fact without respectable resources to back them up.

Hahaha! This coming from you!!

About your ''ancient laws", that was a rhetorical question dumbass.

Ajuran:



So describing the state of Puntland and Somaliland and their escape from lawlessness and Southern Somalis use of customary law is not delusional?
I apologize in assuming that you have received bachelor degrees from accredited bodies such as I have.

LOL! Please stop, I can't laugh anymore.

Ajuran:



1. Islamic law, and Xeer traditional laws have been used for over a thousand years, and were still in practice

2. Somalia received billions of dollars in the last 20 years from gulf countries in Food Aid and Education

So your basically saying that Somalia can't feed itself. Truly sad and pathetic.

Ajuran:
laughing must be your way of dismissing obvious facts which you have no intelligent rebuttal for. I can't blame you, your bantu mind cannot register many things that average humans have evolved to understand. Fundamentally, the idea of collegial debate centered on the idea that your opinions are not fact without respectable resources to back them up.

You do realise that Somalis have the lowest IQ's in Sub Saharan Africa.