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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Nobody: 1:17am On Feb 27, 2015
Oil,or no oil,the Nigeria spirit never dies..

We have been under severe economic hardship,we came out unscathed..

This is why GMB must be elected,to bring restore the economy from total dependency on oil..

GMB forever.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by aresa: 1:18am On Feb 27, 2015
Firefire:



I always respect you no matter the party you support. Me jobless ? I laugh in Chinese cheesy

Btw: That is my alma mater: Zumuratu Islamiya Primary School, Alaba Oro angry

Abandoned building is your old school? Why not show us your real school. in yiur village?

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by aresa: 1:20am On Feb 27, 2015
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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Firefire(m): 1:20am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


You are focusing on external debts to make Lagos State look bad. I am.telling you that external debts don't tell the complete story at all.
1. External debts of Nigeria is just ~14% of our national debt. Use Lagos states total debt as a percentage of national debts and you will get ~3% which is nothing compared to your touted 18%.
2. Lagos debt portfolio is more loaded with external than domestic debts because states don't sell bonds etc etc.
But Lagos debt profile is healthy and work is on ground to justify it.


tongue tongue

All my submissions are based on readily available data that are verifiable. I could choose the best viewing angle at my discretion.


Eko oni ba je ooooo

Jimi Agbaje, the man to the rescue cool

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Firefire(m): 1:22am On Feb 27, 2015
aresa:
grin grin


I beg no corrupt this thread with your photos

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by LRNZH(m): 1:27am On Feb 27, 2015
Firefire:



tongue tongue

All my submissions are based on readily available data that are verifiable. I could choose the best viewing angle at my discretion.


I totally disgree with you. Your dishonesty is coming to play here and I will reserve the right to respond to you in the future if I sense insincerity.
How can you take 14% of an issue (external out of total national debt) and use that to judge the health of Lagos vs FG debts?

Desist from that please.

By the way in all of your arguments, you have failed to address the main thrust of this thread.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by LRNZH(m): 1:29am On Feb 27, 2015
Firefire:



I beg no corrupt this thread with your photos

You started the photo business.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by aresa: 1:29am On Feb 27, 2015
Firefire:



I beg no corrupt this thread with your photos


but you can corrupt it with your fake and abandoned building right?

see, I have something to trash your lies and rubbish with.

Funny enough, your village governors did not build one single classroom since 1999.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by dustmalik: 1:32am On Feb 27, 2015
GEJ supporters are so delusional to the extent that they can't be helped.
I'll give a clue here. If you know someone who is high in the food chain in CBN, ask them what happened to our foreign reserve recently, especially during the PDP convention. You will be told the truth.

Ask yourself, why haven't they been able to defend the naira? If you think it's because of the fall in oil prices, then i'm sorry for you.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Firefire(m): 1:34am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


I totally disgree with you. Your dishonesty is coming to play here and I will reserve the right to respond to you in the future if I sense insincerity.
How can you take 14% of an issue (external out of total national debt) and use that to judge the health of Lagos vs FG debts?

Desist from that please.

The external debt is typically owed to foreign creditors such as multilateral agencies (for example, the Africa Development Bank, the World Bank, or the Islamic Development Bank), to bilateral sources (such as the China Exim Bank, the French Development Bank or the Japanese Aid Agency), or to private creditors such as investors in our Eurobonds.

The domestic debt, however, is contracted within Nigerian borders, usually through bond issues which are then purchased by Nigerian banks, local pension funds, and other domestic and foreign investors.

I presume the external debt should be of more concern to you my friend?
Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by LRNZH(m): 1:41am On Feb 27, 2015
Firefire:


The external debt is typically owed to foreign creditors such as multilateral agencies (for example, the Africa Development Bank, the World Bank, or the Islamic Development Bank), to bilateral sources (such as the China Exim Bank, the French Development Bank or the Japanese Aid Agency), or to private creditors such as investors in our Eurobonds.

The domestic debt, however, is contracted within Nigerian borders, usually through bond issues which are then purchased by Nigerian banks, local pension funds, and other domestic and foreign investors.

I presume the external debt should be of more concern to you my friend?

No way. If the Gov'ts (state or FG) default on their debts be it domestic or external, the consequences to the economy are dire so it does not matter. 14% cannot be of more concern than 86% unless you want to play PDP's contorted game of numbers where small is > big when they want to rig (eg NGF elections, impeachments etc) grin

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Firefire(m): 1:46am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


No way. If the Gov't (state or FG) default on their debts be it domesti or external, the consequences to the economy are dire so it does not matter. 14% cannot be of more concern than 76% unless you want to play PDP's contorted game of numbers where small is > big i they want to rig (eg NGF elections, impeachments etc) grin


Issokay. smiley

But the situation on ground and the massive Infrastructural development in Nigeria could support/justify the FG debt.

Investment in:

Rail
Airport
Road
Power
Security
etc

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by aresa: 1:50am On Feb 27, 2015
Firefire:



Issokay. smiley

But the situation on ground and the massive Infrastructural development in Nigeria could support/justify the FG debt.

Investment in:

Rail
Airport
Road
Power
Security
etc



what is massive? what you call massive can't even fill up half a page on NL. what is massive anyway? do you mind listing?

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by CaptainAmerica1: 1:52am On Feb 27, 2015
Notice how a certain person cunningly avoided the $10 billion and $20Billion missing NNPC money.

I see you wink

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by geniusmedia: 2:03am On Feb 27, 2015
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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by LRNZH(m): 6:18am On Feb 27, 2015
CaptainAmerica1:
Notice how a certain person cunningly avoided the $10 billion and $20Billion missing NNPC money.

I see you wink

If not for this interaction, I didn't know FireFire has some stuff in his head because he has to resort to telling half truths and lies to support GEJ.

The problem with being a GEJite is you must dumb down your brain to be able to support non-performance. Barcanista is an example of someone going through that phase now.

FireFire there is still room to clean up your act and start looking at things from the realistic lens of a progressive. Your analytical ability will shine through and be of use because you won't have to be perpetually distorting facts to make your man look good.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by DaBullIT(m): 6:22am On Feb 27, 2015
So, you are saying Barcanista has been PDP Zombified [/b]and he's going through dumbdown [b]TRANSFORMATION?

Na you talk am I no dey o!!!!!
LRNZH:


If not for this interaction, I didn't know FireFire has some stuff in his head because he has to resort to telling half truths and lies to support GEJ.

The problem with being a GEJite is you must dumb down your brain to be able to support non-performance. Barcanista is an example of someone going through that phase now.

FireFire there is still room to clean up your act and start looking at things from the realistic lens of a progressive. Your analytical ability will shine through and be of use because you won't have to be perpetually distorting facts to make your man look good.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by OrlandoOwoh(m): 6:34am On Feb 27, 2015
ozoigbondu:
We will survive never under estimate the die hard spirit of nigerians if we survived Abacha tryannical rule coupled with sanctions imposed on us then we can survive.We also survived the era of scarcity of essential commodity.

GEJ has already started diversifying the economy the agricultural and entertaing sector are booming.It is also necessary to cut down on luxurios spending by the government.Money can be saved by cutting down the jumbo pay of the legislators and selling some of the presidential jets.Aides should also be trimmed down

The governors should stop depending on federal allocations and oil money and concentarte more on generating their own funds

Meanwhile GEJ till 2019
Do you know what you are saying? Hope you know that when a country is sanctioned by some world bodies, some countries in the bodies still trade with the sanctioned country albeit through the back door. Did Nigerians suffer the way they know do during Abacha's regime?

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by LRNZH(m): 6:36am On Feb 27, 2015
DaBullIT:
So, you are saying Barcanista has been PDP Zombified [/b ] and he's going through dumbdown [b]TRANSFORMATION?

Na you talk am I no dey o!!!!!

grin Even Barcanista has stopped having fun on NL because he can't post intelligent analysis anymore. The FFK problem is a bad one. You stop reasoning right and start defending blatant lies, spreading misinformation. I don't know how their conscience functions through it all.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by DaBullIT(m): 6:42am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


grin Even Barcanista has stopped having fun on NL because he can't post intelligent analysis anymore. The FFK problem is a bad one. You stop reasoning right and start defending blatant lies, spreading misinformation. I don't know how their conscience functions through it all.


Flawless Victory

FATALITY

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by stevecantrell: 8:07am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


This govt is built on a foundation of lies and misinformation. Nigeria is doing badly as we speak. How much is Naira exchange rate? Why did Naira not freefall in 2008 when the global economic crash happened like it is doing today? Because OBJ and Soludo had a sound basis on which the economy was run.

The lootocracy of GEJ anf NOI was exposed immediately the oil price tanked. There was no money to defend the Naira nor any diversification of the economy with all the money borrowed. Don't let Omokri deceive us please.



Anyone who is deceived, is only deceiving themselves. The kleptocracy is clear as day.

cc: Lalasticlala, Ishilove, Maclatunji, Obinoscopy, OAM4J

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Burger01(m): 8:23am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


[b]Stop cursing us with your GEJ slogan. I don't think you comprehend the reality of this situation.

Have you wondered why Angola, Algeria and other Africa oil producers are not on this list? Not even Libya with its war torn issues.

On a normal day Nigeria should be like Norway and Gulf states that have managed their earnings well during the high oil price, saved a lot of money and diversified their economy.

Because we squandered our earnings and did not invest enough in any meaningful economic diversification, we end up on a list like this.

Look at the other countries on this list.
Russia is under heavy sanctions and is waging a war in Ukraine.
Iran is under heavy sanctions and is propping up the Gov't of Bashar Assad in Syria.
Iraq is trying to recover from a major civil war then ISIS broke out and started another round of turmoil.
Venezuela is a heavily subsidized state and under western sanctions as well.

Nigeria is not under sanctions nor are we running any major socialist or subsidy program. Corruption and ineptitude especially by GEJ's govt got us here.
Our national loan burden is about $70Billion today with nothing to show for it.[/b]
Nice one man.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by olas24u(f): 8:23am On Feb 27, 2015
ozoigbondu:
We will survive never under estimate the die hard spirit of nigerians if we survived Abacha tryannical rule coupled with sanctions imposed on us then we can survive.We also survived the era of scarcity of essential commodity.

GEJ has already started diversifying the economy the agricultural and entertaing sector are booming.It is also necessary to cut down on luxurios spending by the government.Money can be saved by cutting down the jumbo pay of the legislators and selling some of the presidential jets.Aides should also be trimmed down

The governors should stop depending on federal allocations and oil money and concentarte more on generating their own funds

Meanwhile GEJ till 2019

with all the loot

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Solo84(m): 8:24am On Feb 27, 2015
I see no difference between Arsenal fans and Goodluck Jonathan's supporters.

Both are incurable optimists.

Even in failure, they remain where they are.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by AJOT99(m): 8:26am On Feb 27, 2015
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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Nobody: 8:27am On Feb 27, 2015
ozoigbondu:

GEJ has already started diversifying the economy the agricultural and entertaing sector are booming.It is also necessary to cut down on luxurios spending by the government.Money can be saved by cutting down the jumbo pay of the legislators and selling some of the presidential jets.Aides should also be trimmed down


grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Agriculture is just another Dutch disease of dependency.Besides, less than 10% of our agric production takes place in large scale farms....which means we are no agric power.

And Entertainment? Don't make me laugh. With pirates ravaging the thing......and without a breakthrough in the US market? With those poor quality things you call Nollywood films.

No, Nigeria can only survive the same way Japan, China and Germany survive. By being innovative, and industrial. Not by selling raw materials and films....and sharing the money. Of course....we must forget about oil

You Nigerians should stop deceiving yourselves. Go and reform that clerk producing factory called your education system.....and go and set up HEAVY industries....not reprocessing and assembly plants....then we can talk.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by slymichael(m): 8:27am On Feb 27, 2015
Wen per litter of fuel is bn sold in eastern states at #100? Let's have a feel of d crash too.

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Shiifi(m): 8:28am On Feb 27, 2015
Ebele and PDP will hear all dis and still b talking abt continuety, seriously PDP r begining to act lyk economic boko haram






sai buhari

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Re: OIL PRICE CRASH: Nigeria In Top 5 At-Risk Countries - Global Risk Insights by Nobody: 8:30am On Feb 27, 2015
LRNZH:


[b]Stop cursing us with your GEJ slogan. I don't think you comprehend the reality of this situation.

Have you wondered why Angola, Algeria and other Africa oil producers are not on this list? Not even Libya with its war torn issues.

On a normal day Nigeria should be like Norway and Gulf states that have managed their earnings well during the high oil price, saved a lot of money and diversified their economy.

Because we squandered our earnings and did not invest enough in any meaningful economic diversification, we end up on a list like this.

Look at the other countries on this list.
Russia is under heavy sanctions and is waging a war in Ukraine.
Iran is under heavy sanctions and is propping up the Gov't of Bashar Assad in Syria.
Iraq is trying to recover from a major civil war then ISIS broke out and started another round of turmoil.
Venezuela is a heavily subsidized state and under western sanctions as well.

Nigeria is not under sanctions nor are we running any major socialist or subsidy program. Corruption and ineptitude especially by GEJ's govt got us here.
Our national loan burden is about $70Billion today with nothing to show for it.[/b]
Very intelligent post cool

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