Obiagelli:

That we will put to test on election day

Obiagelli:

And buhari has remained president since then. Abeg make better contribution

Obiagelli:


Very funny. Prerogative of someone who doesn't give a damn.

Obiagelli:


All i see is a failed promise and an unrepentant president

barcanista:
na wa you o

Obiagelli:


Very funny. Prerogative of someone who doesn't give a damn.

barcanista:
So why are you trying to blame the President for the failure of NASS with respect to PIB? Is he a legislator? You can only blame him when he refused to sign it into law.

As for the Confab Report, that isn't a problem because NASS was part of the Confab. A formal passage of it by the NASS or a Referrendum by the people of Nigeria is enough to get the Report implemented. This is no rocket science

barcanista:
The role of the President is to sign bills into law. He doesn't participate in bills reading neither does he have powers to vote for or against a bill. The PIB is an executive bill, tell your people to pass it and see whether or not Mr President will sign it like he did FOI.

As for the Confab, the NASS won't go through their loooong process, because there will be no need for that since everyone was involved. The President only need to get their formal endorsement and implement it...

Or there be a referandum... He can exploit any option!

barcanista:
The NASS sent delegates to the Confab and had lots of imput. Maybe you need to look at the composition of Confab members. You think they were there to sell kulikuli? It seems you assume that the Confab is like the regular parliamentary bill.

barcanista:
The NASS sent delegates for the Confab, they were not there for a tea party. The President only need their endorsement or resolution. It is not a regular bill that will require formal readings upon readings(except they have any plans to modify it).

Obiagelli:

Was there Apc before 2014? Didn't the pdp control the house of assembly?

barcanista:
The PIB issue is a matter of the National Assembly. Some Northern legislators are vehemently opposed to some provisions of PIB and that is the basis for the stalmate. Though I believe that the President could do a little more in influencing his party men, it again bothers on the NASS members to pass the Bill and send it to GEJ for ascent. The President has said he will sign the PIB when it gets to his table, so far it hasn't got to his table.

As for the Confab report, I believe he will implement it when he get re-elected.

Recall that He said in 2011 that he will sign the FOI when it gets to had table, it got to his table and he signed it within 24hrs. The same FOI that Governors Fashola, Ajimobi, Amaechi etc are fighting tooth and nail to subdue.

Clerverly:


Stale lines! How does he plan to get National Confab report implemented without recourse to the same NASS, he blames for his inability to get the PIB working?

barcanista:
bros, the poster you quoted is pro-PDP. Lol...

Zionope:

He can bribe people to endorse him for second term, he can lobby the force to make his party win elections, he can talk d security operatives into postponing elections for his selfish interest,but he can't lobby his party lawmakers to get a bill passed. NAIJA I HAIL THEE.

VolvoS60:

^^^^
I think you need to clarify a few things about your understanding of what the Conference Report is all about.


Are its 'resolutions' binding on Nigerian lawmakers? Does the Report have any weight or force in law?

Is the Report equivalent to a parliamentary bill or superior/inferior to it? Or there is no relationship whatsoever?

Is there any relationship between legislators attendance/participation at the Conference and the prospects of implementation of the Report created?


The OP and one other poster clearly have their misgivings about GEJ's ability to make good on his 'promise' about the conference Report. Answering my questions above may clear things up for all of us.

Zionope:

He can bribe people to endorse him for second term, he can lobby the force to make his party win elections, he can talk d security operatives into postponing elections for his selfish interest,but he can't lobby his party lawmakers to get a bill passed. NAIJA I HAIL THEE.

agabaI23:
Oops! I meant to quote Obiagelli lol

barcanista:
First, the PIB is a Parliamentary bill and not a Presidential fiat. 2/3rd members of Parliament need to pass it and then transmit it to the President for him to sign it into law. Musa Yaradua sent the bill to NASS in 2007(or 2008), the NASS members have been acting funny and tribalising issues. The Minister of Petroleum has on several occasions stated the FG's readiness to implement the bill/law, but till date it hasn't been passed. I throw one question at you... What has APC legislators done with respect to the bill? What should the President do when it hasn't got to his desk? What is his own sin here?

Btw check my first reply

barcanista:
Which constitution are you reading?

barcanista:
Idealy, the resolution by the Confab should have gone through a referandum and not further subject to a parliamentary process. Because the confab is the "voice" of the People, its resolutions naturally should supercede parliamentary brohaha. But again the President should have got the endorsement of the Parliament in form of a bill to make the Confab binding and to undergo referandum so as to be endorsed by at least 2/3 Nigeria population of voting age.

Well, the NASS, and virtually every section of our political class were part of the Confab Process. Jonathan sending the report to NASS is like doing what he should have done in the first instance. But the good news is that the NASS will look at the report and passing it ideally should be a mere academic exercise.
The Confab is like "our" resolution

agabaI23:
Who is holding the PIB? is it not your APC-centric house of reps? GEJ has done everything he would do on PID. It is lying with APC. The last time Madueke answered question on that she said, it is with the house. They should pass it right now.

Change2015:


I'm sorry but this is rubbish. The legislature cannot make laws in violation of the constitution, and thus they cannot transfer the power to amend the constitution to another body, in contradiction to the means of altering the constitution specified in the constitution! So the confab for all the money spent was just a useless talking shop that has no authority and little foundation. It certainly was not representing me, especially with a significant number of government appointees. I had no choice in who represented me, and on that ground it fails for me.

The nation has an Attorney - General who should ideally provide clear legal advice on what is legal for the government to do, and obviously he has been derelict in his duties.

#change
#GMB
#APC

VolvoS60:


^^^^
The bolded part of your post got my attention.

Perhaps you should have used the word 'lot' instead of the word 'little'. I marvel at how GEJ could whip the party faithful into line when it came to endorsing his candidacy and ensuring he ran unopposed at last year's party primaries. Yet GEJ cannot muster support for a life changing bill like the PIB despite a party majority in both Houses. Private interests trumping national interests?


Perhaps you can educate me on any far reaching executive sponsored bill that has been passed into law in the past 4 to 6 years? And please do not mention the FOI bill. Although I give GEJ some credit for signing that bill (compare his speedy assent to the pig headed obstinacy of OBJ - a man who clearly wanted total freedom to run his corrupt and fraudulent government without any external scrutiny ), it should not be forgotten that the FOI bill was sponsored by an opposition lawmaker. (I must digress at this point and state my complete revulsion and disgust at APC governors who have refused to sponsor or assent to FOI bills at the state level. Is this not the meaning of hypocrisy and confusion? ).

As things stand, I am not aware of any 'signature' legislation (as Mr. Soludo would put it) that the GEJ administration can boast of. Without any groundbreaking legislation passed then what platform will the so-called 'institution building' (which we have heard so much about) rest on?

If GEJ isn't re-elected next month then what exactly will we say his legacy is?

barcanista:
The PIB issue is a matter of the National Assembly. Some Northern legislators are vehemently opposed to some provisions of PIB and that is the basis for the stalmate. Though I believe that the President could do a little more in influencing his party men, it again bothers on the NASS members to pass the Bill and send it to GEJ for ascent. The President has said he will sign the PIB when it gets to his table, so far it hasn't got to his table.

As for the Confab report, I believe he will implement it when he get re-elected.

Recall that He said in 2011 that he will sign the FOI when it gets to his table, it got to his table and he signed it within 24hrs. The same FOI that Governors Fashola, Ajimobi, Amaechi etc are fighting tooth and nail to subdue.

barcanista:
Idealy, the resolution by the Confab should have gone through a referandum and not further subject to a parliamentary process. Because the confab is the "voice" of the People, its resolutions naturally should supercede parliamentary brohaha. But again the President should have got the endorsement of the Parliament in form of a bill to make the Confab binding and to undergo referandum so as to be endorsed by at least 2/3 Nigeria population of voting age.

Well, the NASS, and virtually every section of our political class were part of the Confab Process. Jonathan sending the report to NASS is like doing what he should have done in the first instance. But the good news is that the NASS will look at the report and passing it ideally should be a mere academic exercise.
The Confab is like "our" resolution

Demdem:


What useless people? How was the confab constituted? Who nominated the members? We're all nationalities represented? Why give restrictions to what could be discussed and what shouldn't be?
A conference that comprises more delegates from the FG than any other is a useless conference.
We demanded for an SNC, the fool gave us a useless assemblage of time wasters. By the way, the NASS wasn't part of it. It's on record that some members expressed their reservation as to its existence. To me, there is no difference Btw this conference and obj conference.
That useless report must be junked. It's a waste.

Change2015:


With regards to your comments on the FOI law, I would appreciate it if you could let us know which states in the federation including the fct have domesticated the law. As far as I have researched, it appears only Ekiti state under Fayemi has done so. I stand to be corrected.

#change
#GMB
#APC

VolvoS60:


^^^
Delta, Lagos and Ekiti.

barcanista:
Idealy, the resolution by the Confab should have gone through a referandum and not further subject to a parliamentary process. Because the confab is the "voice" of the People, its resolutions naturally should supercede parliamentary brohaha. But again the President should have got the endorsement of the Parliament in form of a bill to make the Confab binding and to undergo referandum so as to be endorsed by at least 2/3 Nigeria population of voting age.

Well, the NASS, and virtually every section of our political class were part of the Confab Process. Jonathan sending the report to NASS is like doing what he should have done in the first instance. But the good news is that the NASS will look at the report and passing it ideally should be a mere academic exercise.
The Confab is like "our" resolution

barcanista:
Idealy, the resolution by the Confab should have gone through a referandum and not further subject to a parliamentary process. Because the confab is the "voice" of the People, its resolutions naturally should supercede parliamentary brohaha. But again the President should have got the endorsement of the Parliament in form of a bill to make the Confab binding and to undergo referandum so as to be endorsed by at least 2/3 Nigeria population of voting age.

Well, the NASS, and virtually every section of our political class were part of the Confab Process. Jonathan sending the report to NASS is like doing what he should have done in the first instance. But the good news is that the NASS will look at the report and passing it ideally should be a mere academic exercise.
The Confab is like "our" resolution