Empiree:

If you clearly, honestly and logically consider the claims I made about Jesus’ uniqueness from the Quran you will not accuse me of any misrepresentation.

However, if you refuse to be rational then I guess there is nothing anyone can do about that.

We have not even gone into areas in the Quran where Jesus is said to have a more unique place in this world and the other world which you quoted yourself,

"(And Mentioned) when Angels said; "Oh Mary, Allah give you good news of a word from Him. whose name will be messaiah, Jesus, the son of Mary HELD HONOR IN THIS WORLD AND LIFEAFTER and among those who are brought near (to Allah)"

and you are already stuck!

You claim the Quran prohibits making distinction between God’s prophets. But in theory and/or practice is this really so?
You yourself stated that there are classes – ’25 most powerful’, ‘special five’ Arch-prophets that are ‘extremely powerful’ and you claim there is no ‘class’. Come on, Empiree!
Let me ask you this: will Muslims kill anyone for making a cartoon of Jesus like they do for that of Mohammed?
I need your honest and sincere answer.

Did Jesus himself say he had virgin pregnancy and birth and the other attributes or they were recorded in the Quran and you simply accepted it as such?
Why now put the onus on me to show you where Jesus said this or said that?
Must Jesus say it himself before you believe the facts recorded in your Quran?
What I have stated is found in the Quran.

You can't just talk. You have to bring up evidence.

Now here is my logical question which i asked you before. Show me evidence that Jesus said he is more than a prophet, servant and messanger of God?. Simple, isn't?. Your "wayo" that Jesus has combined attributes make him God is your personal theory.Answer that question @boldblue.

I already brought up the evidence – the record shows that no other prophet in the Quran had these 3 unique attributes, put together in one person, which Jesus had.
Do you dispute that?
Or is it a question of struggling with giving a sensible response to that conclusion?

Let’s put it this way: from the Quran it can be seen that Jesus is a prophet who had those distinctively unique attributes that NO OTHER PROPHET OF ISLAM has.
Am I right or wrong?

plainbibletruth:


If you clearly, honestly and logically consider the claims I made about Jesus’ uniqueness from the Quran you will not accuse me of any misrepresentation.

However, if you refuse to be rational then I guess there is nothing anyone can do about that.

We have not even gone into areas in the Quran where Jesus is said to have a more unique place in this world and the other world which you quoted yourself,
and you are already stuck!

You claim the Quran prohibits making distinction between God’s prophets. But in theory and/or practice is this really so?
You yourself stated that there are classes – ’25 most powerful’, ‘special five’ Arch-prophets that are ‘extremely powerful’ and you claim there is no ‘class’. Come on, Empiree!
Let me ask you this: will Muslims kill anyone for making a cartoon of Jesus like they do for that of Mohammed?
I need your honest and sincere answer.

Did Jesus himself say he had virgin pregnancy and birth and the other attributes or they were recorded in the Quran and you simply accepted it as such?
Why now put the onus on me to show you where Jesus said this or said that?
Must Jesus say it himself before you believe the facts recorded in your Quran?
What I have stated is found in the Quran.



I already brought up the evidence – the record shows that no other prophet in the Quran had these 3 unique attributes, put together in one person, which Jesus had.
Do you dispute that?
Or is it a question of struggling with giving a sensible response to that conclusion?

Let’s put it this way: from the Quran it can be seen that Jesus is a prophet who had those distinctively unique attributes that NO OTHER PROPHET OF ISLAM has.
Am I right or wrong?

It's obvious you can not answer my question. I am not going back n fourth on this anymore. Qur'an position is very clear and straight forward. I asked you to prove to me where Jesus said because he has those 3 attributes make him Lord and Savior?. You can not answer. Instead you said I should not expect him to say that. So if that is the case, it means it's your theory to claim Jesus is more than prophet not Jesus. So what is it to talk about?. You are only interested in doing me "wayo" aka fraud. That's not gonna work with empire.

To answer your question on whether muslim can kill if Jesus cartoon is drawn, I know you still trying to play me same WAYO. The answer to this effect is simple one. Any learned muslim would not kill for prophet Muhammad's cartoon. Those we see on tv only did what did for their own selfish interest. Quran position is clear when it comes to such silly things. It says to turn away from those who mock religion, prophets, God etc. And yes, we are not happy with nonsense pictures attributed to Jesus (pbuh) by christians and atheists. That's why we dont draw pictures of any prophet of God regardless of their status. It's blasphemy to do that. And you christians have done that to Jesus that you claim you love so much.

As for discriminating or making difference between any prophets or messangers of God, what that means is to believe in some and reject some. Clearly you dont believe in Qur'an, you dont believe in prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and you want to tell me who Jesus was?. But we muslims believe in all prophets and messangers. Yes, they are graded by their status as in their mission. Some prophets were sent to their family, some to their community, some to entire nation(a country). Some sent to tribe(s). Jesus was sent only to Israelite. This means all prophets before Muhammad were not given universal message except for WORSHIP OF ONE GOD.

Prophet muhammad was sent to the whole world (mankind, Jinn, living and non-living things). Definitely their ranks are different from that percepective. That's not distinction Quran is alking about.

Distinction Qur'an is talking about is to believe in some prophets and reject others which is what you do. You do not believe in Muhammad(peace be upon him)

As for Jesus being honored in this world and lifeafter, the same applies to all prophets and messangers. Qur'an blessed them all in surat As-Saffat (37:181). And many other places througout Qur'an.

Empiree:
E wooooooooo You telling me these are basic tenets Jesus came with? Gosh! Mr. naijablogger no go kill person. Now, let me analyze;

LOVE YOUR NAIBOR: That's long gone. Percentage of christians who practice this today are pretty much less than 0.01%. The phrase is easier said than done. We see sample of that on NL everyday with your fellow christians who dont want to live and let's live.

TURN THE OTHER CHEEK: There is no way i can say this without huge laughter You know this one na big joke deep inside your heart. NL is indeed typical example of everything christianity stands for. In the case here though, you dont even turn other cheek, you go on offensive mission on Islam section. Many christians who go there to post something on topics usually curse, post porn*pix, curse our prophet, blasphemy against God, the list goes on. So far, i havent seen how you people abide by these so called Jesus mission needless to say international community. You dey make me laugh brother.


THE ONLY WAY TO FATHER IS THROUGH JESUS: This is indeed correct with respect to people he was sent to (Israelite), NOT you. Just like other prophets and messangers were sent to specific people.

Now, according to Qur'an and your Bible, the first commandment Jesus brought was to worship One God.

QUR'AN: Imran(3:51) Jesus said, "Indeed God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. This is the straight Path (Islamic monotheism)

BIBLE: Mark 12:29 "The most important one, Jesus answered, Hear Oh Israel! The God our God is One;.."

Luke 4:8 "Jesus answered; 'It is written: You shall worship the Lord Your God and serve Him only"

So according to you the three most important 'commandments' you posted are in conflict with what Quran and Bible said of Jesus' foremost commandments. You are missing the Most Important one. It's not in your list. So you can see why I said Paul invented christianity?. You contradict your own Bible.

^^

You are only making a clown of yourself.

Your comment shows that you haven't read the bible.

Those are the three most revered teachings of Christ. Please ask any other christian before you behave like a clown.


You truly know how to use strawmen. How do your arguments claiming that some christians fail to comply with Christ's teachings change the fact that they are the most important in christianity?


The difference between me and you is that I do not make claims things that I do not know in Islam.

[quote author=Empiree post=32009580][/quote]you quote this quranic verse to proved your point that Jesus is just a ordinary man;
Christ the son of Mary was no more
than a messenger; many were the
messengers that PASSED AWAY before
him....." (5:75, Yusif Ali)
If Jesus is an ordinary Man, then He died, if Jesus did not die, then explained to me How an ordinary man who is a prophet ,Allah would not allow the Jews to killed him, but his favourite prophet(muhammed) died in the hand of a Jewish woman?

You said, muslims already give Jesus the respect by adding "peace be upon him" on his name. Why will I invoke the peace of God on someone who is nearer to God? between heaven and earth,where is more peaceful? Comperd with what Jesus said here;

John 14:27
27 Peace I leave with you, MY PEACE I
give to you; NOT as the world gives do I
give to you. Let not your heart be
troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Jesus should be the one intercede on our behalf for peace.

You quote this verse;
Qur'an 3:45
"(And Mentioned) when Angels said; "Oh
Mary, Allah give you good news of a word
from Him. whose name will be messaiah,
Jesus, the son of Mary HELD HONOR IN
THIS WORLD AND LIFEAFTER and among
those who are brought near (to Allah)"

Let me ask you this question.
What is the purpose of the virgin birth? Why did Jesus have to be born of a virgin? Quranic verse pleasure. If you open your mind and answer this question, you will find out that the writer of the quran don't want you to know something OR he is very very confused

You ask this question;
Show me evidence
that Jesus said he is more than a
prophet, servant and messanger of
God?.

John 17:3
And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the GLORY I HAD with YOU
before the world began.

Can a prophet shere the same glory with God?Jesus has two Nature, God and fully human.Our Lord prayed as a man, and as the Mediator of his people; yet he spoke with majesty and authority, as one with and equal to the Father.

[s]

malvisguy212:
you quote this quranic verse to proved your point that Jesus is just a ordinary man;
Christ the son of Mary was no more
than a messenger; many were the
messengers that PASSED AWAY before
him....." (5:75, Yusif Ali)
If Jesus is an ordinary Man, then He died, if Jesus did not die, then explained to me How an ordinary man who is a prophet ,Allah would not allow the Jews to killed him, but his favourite prophet(muhammed) died in the hand of a Jewish woman?

You said, muslims already give Jesus the respect by adding "peace be upon him" on his name. Why will I invoke the peace of God on someone who is nearer to God? between heaven and earth,where is more peaceful? Comperd with what Jesus said here;

John 14:27
27 Peace I leave with you, MY PEACE I
give to you; NOT as the world gives do I
give to you. Let not your heart be
troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Jesus should be the one intercede on our behalf for peace.

You quote this verse;
Qur'an 3:45
"(And Mentioned) when Angels said; "Oh
Mary, Allah give you good news of a word
from Him. whose name will be messaiah,
Jesus, the son of Mary HELD HONOR IN
THIS WORLD AND LIFEAFTER and among
those who are brought near (to Allah)"

Let me ask you this question.
What is the purpose of the virgin birth? Why did Jesus have to be born of a virgin? Quranic verse pleasure. If you open your mind and answer this question, you will find out that the writer of the quran don't want you to know something OR he is very very confused

You ask this question;
Show me evidence
that Jesus said he is more than a
prophet, servant and messanger of
God?.

John 17:3
And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the GLORY I HAD with YOU
before the world began.

Can a prophet shere the same glory with God?Jesus has two Nature, God and fully human.Our Lord prayed as a man, and as the Mediator of his people; yet he spoke with majesty and authority, as one with and equal to the Father.

[/s]Ask these questions again when you turn 18. Thanks

[quote author=AllNaijaBlogger post=32037017]

Your comment shows that you haven't read the bible.

And what part of my comment is that?.

Those are the three most revered teachings of Christ.

By teachings you mean commandments. Now let's see what your Bible says

Mark 12:29 "The most important one, [size=15pt]Jesus answered,[/size] Hear Oh Israel! The God our God is One;.."

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."

but Mathew said

Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

[size=15pt]Jesus replied:[/size] “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Clearly, without benefit of doubt Mathew is in conflict with Mark and Deuteronomy. Mathew wants to telling me just by loving God and people is way to heaven. I am sorry for you people. You have lost. But you still have opportunity retract and THINK

You truly know how to use strawmen. How do your arguments claiming that some christians fail to comply with Christ's teachings change the fact that they are the most important in christianity?

Irrelevant

Empiree:

By teachings you mean commandments. Now let's see what your Bible says

Mark 12:29 "The most important one, Jesus answered, Hear Oh Israel! The God our God is One;.."

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."

but Mathew said

Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Clearly, without benefit of doubt Mathew is in conflict with Mark and Deuteronomy. Mathew wants to telling me just by loving God and people is way to heaven. I am sorry for you people. You have lost. But you still have opportunity retract and THINK

You are an expert liar and you like quoting out of context.


Here are the verses you misquoted-

Mark 12;29;
The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.e 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’f 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’g There is no commandment greater than these.”

Matthew 22;37-40;
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

a- you lied that they are not saying the same thing. You tried to back it up by misquoting the verse.

b- you tried to edit out "love your neighbour" in the two verses

c- the second verse is actually Matthew 22;37-40 and not Matthew 22;36-40


But going back to the original argument-

d- you are ignorant of the bible. We were talking about the three most important teachings in Christianity between Jesus and Paul (i.e. the new testament). "Love your God" as a commandment was already established in the Old Testament (Judaism). The three most important teachings in Christianity are "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek" and "the only way to the Father is through Christ". These three teachings are what separate christianity from the law of Moses in the old testament.



You can ask any Christian about this. My problem with you is that you don't know but you want to argue like you know. You keep making silly claims about the bible you haven't bothered to read.

Please summarize Paul's teachings and show how Paul created christianity with his writings. You probably do not even know that Christ comes before Paul's writing in the bible.

AllNaijaBlogger:



You are an expert liar and you like quoting out of context.


Here are the verses you misquoted-



a- you lied that they are not saying the same thing. You tried to back it up by misquoting the verse.

b- you tried to edit out "love your neighbour" in the two verses

c- the second verse is actually Matthew 22;37-40 and not Matthew 22;36-40


But going back to the original argument-

d- you are ignorant of the bible. We were talking about the three most important teachings in Christianity between Jesus and Paul (i.e. the new testament). "Love your God" as a commandment was already established in the Old Testament (Judaism). The three most important teachings in Christianity are "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek" and "the only way to the Father is through Christ". These three teachings are what separate christianity from the law of Moses in the old testament.



You can ask any Christian about this. My problem with you is that you don't know but you want to argue like you know. You keep making silly claims about the bible you haven't bothered to read.

Please summarize Paul's teachings and show how Paul created christianity with his writings. You probably do not even know that Christ comes before Paul's writing in the bible.

So "the most important" which Jesus emphasized about Oneness of God is of no use in Christianity? There is difference btw worship of One God from "Loving God". Herbalists also love God but do they actually worship one God? No. Surely, you guys are lost. I dont really see anything I lied about other than i didnt quote the whole thing. I didnt because my focus was on the first and important commandment which you still eschewed.

That I dont know Jesus came before Paul, sometimes I wonder if i am talking to a kid. Thats how you sound. Of-course Paul didnt even meet Jesus. He came later. I feel sorry for you man. You dont know the Bible.

The first commandment which will actually lead to paradise is WORSHIP OF ONE GOD which you people don't have. All these love your neighbor, turn other cheek are simply code of conduct. You can turn other cheek a million time, you can love the hell out of your neighbor a billion time. If you worship anything other than God alone or worship human being (Jesus) along with God, there is no doubt such people will abide in hell forever. Jesus is very clear from Bible and Quran that he preached tawheed (God Is One). You are here twisting back n fourth. You follow teachings of Paul which you clearly highlighted above. Too bad

Empiree:
[s][/s]Ask these questions again when you turn 18. Thanks

a gown up man cannot answer the question of a kid? Quran told you to invoked peace on prophets without given you reason?

You cannot state the reason why of the virgin birth.

Let me ask the question know muslims have been able to answer once again;

Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father. We must therefore ask ourselves this vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed as a ‘son’ by the angel Gabriel both in the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), whose son is he?” Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a
messenger of thy Lord, to announce to
thee the GIFT of a holy son .” Here,
Gabriel refers to a son who was to be
given as a “GiFT” by God to Mary. Since
the Qur’an makes it very clear that the
son is a gift from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a son.
Therefore, the son belongs to God
which means the son was His or His
son. In other words, God’s son. This
testifies to the Gospel truth that Jesus is
the Son of God.

Empiree:
So "the most important" which Jesus emphasized about Oneness of God is of no use in Christianity? There is difference btw worship of One God from "Loving God". Herbalists also love God but do they actually worship one God? No. Surely, you guys are lost. I dont really see anything I lied about other than i didnt quote the whole thing. I didnt because my focus was on the first and important commandment which you still eschewed.

That I dont know Jesus came before Paul, sometimes I wonder if i am talking to a kid. Thats how you sound. Of-course Paul didnt even meet Jesus. He came later. I feel sorry for you man. You dont know the Bible.

The first commandment which will actually lead to paradise is WORSHIP OF ONE GOD which you people don't have. All these love your neighbor, turn other cheek are simply code of conduct. You can turn other cheek a million time, you can love the hell out of your neighbor a billion time. If you worship anything other than God alone or worship human being (Jesus) along with God, there is no doubt such people will abide in hell forever. Jesus is very clear from Bible and Quran that he preached tawheed (God Is One). You are here twisting back n fourth. You follow teachings of Paul which you clearly highlighted above. Too bad

why is Allah calling himself WE in in the quran? I only see muslims gives different answer some have no idea?

Genesis 1:27 let US (father son and the holy spirit) make man in our IMAGE (oneness) if God is three this verse should have say "IMAGES"

Empiree:
So "the most important" which Jesus emphasized about Oneness of God is of no use in Christianity? There is difference btw worship of One God from "Loving God". Herbalists also love God but do they actually worship one God? No. Surely, you guys are lost. I dont really see anything I lied about other than i didnt quote the whole thing. I didnt because my focus was on the first and important commandment which you still eschewed.

That I dont know Jesus came before Paul, sometimes I wonder if i am talking to a kid. Thats how you sound. Of-course Paul didnt even meet Jesus. He came later. I feel sorry for you man. You dont know the Bible.

The first commandment which will actually lead to paradise is WORSHIP OF ONE GOD which you people don't have. All these love your neighbor, turn other cheek are simply code of conduct. You can turn other cheek a million time, you can love the hell out of your neighbor a billion time. If you worship anything other than God alone or worship human being (Jesus) along with God, there is no doubt such people will abide in hell forever. Jesus is very clear from Bible and Quran that he preached tawheed (God Is One). You are here twisting back n fourth. You follow teachings of Paul which you clearly highlighted above. Too bad

Please, back up your false arguments that
+Paul created christianity and
+ Paul's teachings are more relevant than Jesus's


I have already clarified the argument for you. We are talking about christianity between Paul and Jesus. The existence of only one God had already been established in Judaism long before Jesus. We are talking about christianity and the three most important teachings are the ones that I have previously mentioned.

Please, summarize what Paul's teachings are about since you are claiming that he created christianity.


You lack nuance, you lie and you distort.

You misquoted the gospel verses you posted
you lied that matthew and mark were saying different things about Jesus's teaching on the important commandments
you lied that Paul created christianity.


You are not helping yourself

Empiree:
So "the most important" which Jesus emphasized about Oneness of God is of no use in Christianity? There is difference btw worship of One God from "Loving God". Herbalists also love God but do they actually worship one God? No. Surely, you guys are lost. I dont really see anything I lied about other than i didnt quote the whole thing. I didnt because my focus was on the first and important commandment which you still eschewed.

That I dont know Jesus came before Paul, sometimes I wonder if i am talking to a kid. Thats how you sound. Of-course Paul didnt even meet Jesus. He came later. I feel sorry for you man. You dont know the Bible.

The first commandment which will actually lead to paradise is WORSHIP OF ONE GOD which you people don't have. All these love your neighbor, turn other cheek are simply code of conduct. You can turn other cheek a million time, you can love the hell out of your neighbor a billion time. If you worship anything other than God alone or worship human being (Jesus) along with God, there is no doubt such people will abide in hell forever. Jesus is very clear from Bible and Quran that he preached tawheed (God Is One). You are here twisting back n fourth. You follow teachings of Paul which you clearly highlighted above. Too bad

I will repeat it again so that it goes through your skull- the commandments to love and worship only one God had already been established in the old testament long before Jesus. When arguing about the influence of Paul and Jesus, you are in essence talking about the New Testament.

If we are to point out the important teachings in Christianity that make it unique, they will be

-love your neighbour
-turn the other cheek
-no one goes through to the father without Jesus


Please, stop claiming that Paul created christianity. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. Go and read the bible.

AllNaijaBlogger:




I will repeat it again so that it goes through your skull- the commandments to love [size=15pt]and worship only one God[/size] had already been established in the old testament long before Jesus. When arguing about the influence of Paul and Jesus, you are in essence talking about the New Testament.

If we are to point out the important teachings in Christianity that make it unique, they will be

-love your neighbour
-turn the other cheek
-no one goes through to the father without Jesus


Please, stop claiming that Paul created christianity. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. Go and read the bible.

Now in less than 12 hrs, you did me your own "wayo". Pay attention to large font, you didnt even add that until after I stressed it. All the while you only talked about "love your God". Humm, I hail thee. It's alright. I know you guys play tricks all the time. I will return here, inshallah (God willing) to attend to your second post. But let me be very clear, When I debate on Christianity I make no distinctions btw Old and New Testament. Bible is bible to me. The reason is you guys play tricks. So I shall be back here to deal with you when I have my free time.

Empiree:
Now in less than 12 hrs, you did me your own "wayo". Pay attention to large font, you didnt even add that until after I stressed it. All the while you only talked about "love your God". Humm, I hail thee. It's alright. I know you guys play tricks all the time. I will return here, inshallah (God willing) to attend to your second post. But let me be very clear, When I debate on Christianity I make no distinctions bw Old and New Testament. Bible is bible to me. The reason is you guys play tricks. So I shall be back here to deal with you when I have my free time.

What sense do you think you made in the above comment?

AllNaijaBlogger:

What sense do you think you made in the above comment?

#yeyeman. Na you sabi if it doesn't make sense to you.

Please, summarize what Paul's teachings are about since you are claiming that he created christianity.

I posted something earlier in this thread to this effect probably pages 2,3 etc.

My questions are:

show me from your Bible where Jesus mentioned Christianity?

Show me from your Bible where Jesus brought Christianity?

Show me from your Bible where Jesus preached Christianity?

Now dont give me "Christ-like" thing. That's man-made philosophy.

Empiree:
#yeyeman. Na you sabi if it doesn't make sense to you.

I posted something earlier in this thread to this effect probably pages 2,3 etc.

My questions are:

show me from your Bible where Jesus mentioned Christianity?

Show me from your Bible where Jesus brought Christianity?

Show me from your Bible where Jesus preached Christianity?

Now dont give me "Christ-like" thing. That's man-made philosophy.

I hope you are not going to vote GEJ with this your ridiculous reasoning.

I asked you a question and I expect you to answer the question rather than posting 5 questions back at me.

Please, behave yourself.

Prove that Paul created Christianity before we divert into other questions....

AllNaijaBlogger:




I hope you are not going to vote GEJ with this your ridiculous reasoning.

I asked you a question and I expect you to answer the question rather than posting 5 questions back at me.

Please, behave yourself.

Prove that Paul created Christianity before we divert into other questions....

Dont be in haste. I know for sure Christianity came after Jesus (alaiy salam). I wanted you to retract your question because it appears that you dont know this. I gave accounts of Paul earlier on this thread. If you are kind enough to go through them will be great. Although I didnt complete it. I am kinda busy lately by 80% until i can compose myself with proper response.

Weiting concern empire with election!

Christian . I mean the christian who believe in old and new testament ... They are fools... Both old and new testament contains over thousands of contradictions

When most of you na Church goer

You fools abandon catholic who's your origin..

Catholic don't even believe in Jesus
.
Let's assume jesus come bac . Which church will he attended!

Smh.. Fools of highest order

shahydbinaliyu:
Christian . I mean the christian who believe in old and new testament ... They are fools... Both old and new testament contains over thousands of contradictions

When most of you na Church goer

You fools abandon catholic who's your origin..

Catholic don't even believe in Jesus
.
Let's assume jesus come bac . Which church will he attended!

Smh.. Fools of highest order

Thank you and may God bless you with a less abrasive tone and better grammar.

Empiree don run?

Lol....I didnt. Just have no time for you yet. When I am not by my library where i am able to cite references and all that, it's difficult to do on my android even though I am close to NL everyday. However, you should have seen my other refernces in my post on this thread around pages1-5. I am trying to make time to return to my regular pc library before I can pull up your request.

I am actually surprised though that you dont know. It's not about mocking christianity but fact. There are one or wo quotes from your own bible with this effect. So dont get too excited yet, bro

I know you would post something of this effect if you did not receive my reply asap becuz u saw my pos on islam section yestraday

AllNaijaBlogger:
Empiree don run?

Empiree:
Lol....I didnt. Just have no time for you yet. When I am not by my library where i am able to cite references and all that, it's difficult to do on my android even though I am close to NL everyday. However, you should have seen my other refernces in my post on this thread around pages1-5. I am trying to make time to return to my regular pc library before I can pull up your request.

I am actually surprised though that you dont know. It's not about mocking christianity but fact. There are one or wo quotes from your own bible with this effect. So dont get too excited yet, bro

I know you would post something of this effect if you did not receive my reply asap becuz u saw my pos on islam section yestraday

Rilwayne001:


Infact that is the major reason for this thread, since you believe the gospel of jesus is the bible according to mark mattew PAUL and co. Did jesus read all these gospel attributed to him?

Never in my life have I seen a brainless person as this mofo. How can you read about your life except you wrote it yourself. Most times such is written at one's death and you expect such an one to read from it during his lifetime.

Epic brainlessness.

Fxwarrior:


Never in my life have I seen a brainless person as this mofo. How can you read about your life except you wrote it yourself. Most times such is written at one's death and you expect such an one to read from it during his lifetime.

Epic brainlessness.

I have been trying to educate him for over 2 pages! The guy na aboki maluuu

How can a charcter read a book about "its" self

Fxwarrior:


Never in my life have I seen a brainless person as this mofo. How can you read about your life except you wrote it yourself. Most times such is written at one's death and you expect such an one to read from it during his lifetime.

Epic brainlessness.

muhammed got them very very confused,muhammed thought the gospel is a book but unknown to him, the gospel is not a book, is the GOOD NEWS God bring to man.Jesus did not speak His own words, but the words that the Father gave Him>>>john14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not
my sayings: and the WORD WHICH YE HEARE IS NOT MINE, but the Father's which sent me.

And this verse clear everything;
John12:49 For I have not spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me, he gave
me a commandment, what I should say,
and what I should speak.
12:50 And I know that his commandment
is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak
therefore, even as the Father said unto
me, so I speak.

But muhammed thought the gospel is a book and he wrote in the quran that Allah gave Jesus a book, A book that is no where to be found.

The bible and the kuran is one in the same story just slightly distorted by the "vatican" for use in the areas of the middle east to create opponent for bible religion "Christianity" for to create a "safe" environment one must have an "enemy" to blame to convince the public of "christian" areas , while the "terror" attacks are carried out on the " christian" areas "by" the "authority" of the "christian" areas so for them the "christian" authority" to "blame" the "muslim" religion witch in turn "wars" can be waged to create "money" for the "christian authority" who have fingers in "pies" of "weapons" manufactures which in turn good "profits" from the "selling" of the weapons to the "christian" areas "governments" "its" a very "well" "oiled" machine

Fxwarrior:


Never in my life have I seen a brainless person as this mofo.

hehehe

I forgive you
The question sound stupid though, but only those who think deeply will discern what I outlined and asked in the OP.

How can you read about your life except you wrote it yourself. Most times such is written at one's death and you expect such an one to read from it during his lifetime.

We are told in MARK that Jesus was going about preaching the good news. We are told he read the book of isaiah.

Indeed jesus couldn't have written about his death but what will do you have to say about moses writing about how he died and how he was buried in the book of deuteronomy?

The point is, Jesus preach good news and not the story of his life, MARK, Luke, paul, john and co are gospel of themselves and not the gospel jesus was preaching in MARK.

Furthermore, you guys are yet to tackle empire on his claim about mark, luke john and mattew.

Epic brainlessness.

AllNaijaBlogger:



I have been trying to educate him for over 2 pages! The guy na aboki maluuu

I'm not a northerner, i'm an oodua tokan tokan

[quote Autor=Rilwayne001 post=32194513]

Gehege

I fordere Yen
The quellen sound stupide Thomas, Gut okay These who think deeply will discern what I outlined and asked in the OP.



We are told in MARK that Jesus was going about preaching the good news. We are told he read the book of isaiah.

Indeed jesus couldn't have written about his death but what will do you have to say about moses writing about how he died and how he was buried in the book of deuteronomy?

The point is, Jesus preach good news and not the story of his life, MARK, Luke, paul, john and co are gospel of themselves and not the gospel jesus was preaching in MARK.

Furthermore, you guys are yet to tackle empire on his claim about mark, luke john and mattew.



[/quote] now it Not about Jesus , But" Moses". The Good News is The gospel Jesus bring,it is Not a book, Mohammed Got it all wrong, if Allah give Jesus a book (gospel) As claimed in The quran , provide it let US See.

Now after John was put in prison,
Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the
GOSPEL OF THE kINGDOM OF GOD , and
saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the
kingdom of God is at hand. Repent,
and believe in the gospel." (Mark
1:14-15)

This is clear God did Not command his son To writte a book,Jesus preach The kingdom of God and his disciples and eyewitness wrote it Down ,when bible translated "PREACH" it dosent mean Jesus read a book and preach it, Jesus only read from The book that prophecise about Him and claimed it To be fullfiled.

Rilwayne001:


I'm not a northerner, i'm an oodua tokan tokan

The original word I used wasn't "northerner".

AllNaijaBlogger:



The original word I used wasn't "northerner".

So what was it??