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A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Addietunes(m): 11:11pm On Mar 09, 2015
The Bible tells us that:

Adam lived 930 years. (Genesis 5:5)

Seth lived 912 years.(Genesis 5:

Methuselah lived 969 years.(Genesis 5:27)

And Noah lived 950 years. (Genesis 9:29). If we calculate those years, they are close to 4000 years. If we add up the generation of moses, Abraham, david, and jesus . I'm sure they would be more than 2000years all making 6000 years. Also according to the bible, Jesus died 2000 years ago. But the bible said the world is only 6000 years old.
I'm not that good at mathematics but i'm sure there is an error somewhere. Either that or our bible writers couldn't count.
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by malonephill(m): 11:39pm On Mar 09, 2015
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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 11:59pm On Mar 09, 2015
Addietunes:
The Bible tells us that:
Adam lived 930 years. (Genesis 5:5)
Seth lived 912 years.(Genesis 5:
Methuselah lived 969 years.(Genesis 5:27)
And Noah lived 950 years. (Genesis 9:29). If we calculate those years, they are close to 4000 years. If we add up the generation of moses, Abraham, david, and jesus . I'm sure they would be more than 2000years all making 6000 years. Also according to the bible, Jesus died 2000 years ago. But the bible said the world is only 6000 years old.
I'm not that good at maths but i'm sure there is an error somewhere. Either that or our bible writers couldn't count.

Yes there is an error somewhere and it's from you.

Did you consider that the time frame in which this patriarchs lived is not exactly sub sequential after another? But intertwined within specific time and age of there existence or at which they were given birth to. For example you are in existence and fully grown I believe, Buhari is 72 and am sure you are not up to 30 yet but lets assume u are 30 we cant add up your age and that of Buhari and try to compare it within the time frame or time line of you both existence though the sum up might be a 102 years but the time frame of you both can not be up to 100 years or even 80 because there is an overlap between your age and Buhari's.

Op. I urge u to do more research on the questions u raised plus try to understand the term "timeline"

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Nobody: 12:39am On Mar 10, 2015
I woke up to read this. can't believe I was also calculating it cheesy
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by SweetWJ(m): 1:14am On Mar 10, 2015
Pls kindly quote the scriptures that says the world is only 6,000yrs old. Also note that those parent lived for many years before giving birth to the children. It makes no sense adding all their years together.
Addietunes:
The Bible tells us that:

Adam lived 930 years. (Genesis 5:5)

Seth lived 912 years.(Genesis 5:

Methuselah lived 969 years.(Genesis 5:27)

And Noah lived 950 years. (Genesis 9:29). If we calculate those years, they are close to 4000 years. If we add up the generation of moses, Abraham, david, and jesus . I'm sure they would be more than 2000years all making 6000 years. Also according to the bible, Jesus died 2000 years ago. But the bible said the world is only 6000 years old.
I'm not that good at maths but i'm sure there is an error somewhere. Either that or our bible writers couldn't count.

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 5:12am On Mar 10, 2015
SweetWJ:
Pls kindly quote the scriptures that says the world is only 6,000yrs old. Also note that those parent lived for many years before giving birth to the children. It makes no sense adding all their years together.
It's a christian cult, calling themselves "creationists"....they settle for the earth being 6000 years and Adam living and riding alongside dinosaurs.... cheesy

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Addietunes(m): 6:52am On Mar 10, 2015
Maamin:


Yes there is an error somewhere and is from you.

Did you consider that the time frame in which this patriarchs lived is not exactly sub sequential after another? But intertwined within specific time and age of there existence or at which they were given birth to. For example you are in existence and fully grown I believe, Buhari is 72 and am sure you are not up to 30 yet but lets assume u are 30 we cant add up your age and that of Buhari and try to compare it within the time frame or time line of you both existence though the sum up might be a 102 years but the time frame of you both can not be up to 100 years or even 80 because there is an overlap between your age and Buhari's.

Op. I urge u to do more research on the questions u raised plus try to understand the term "timeline"
You ve got to be kidding me, why is it that christians always love to defend their beliefs without reasoning? Well according to my post there, Adam and Seth are only the ones in the same timeline. If you can still calculate, you would notice the error, by the way, try to reason this time and not just saying whatever that pops into your brain.
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by ayoku777(m): 7:29am On Mar 10, 2015
Addietunes:
The Bible tells us that:

Adam lived 930 years. (Genesis 5:5)

Seth lived 912 years.(Genesis 5:

Methuselah lived 969 years.(Genesis 5:27)

And Noah lived 950 years. (Genesis 9:29). If we calculate those years, they are close to 4000 years. If we add up the generation of moses, Abraham, david, and jesus . I'm sure they would be more than 2000years all making 6000 years. Also according to the bible, Jesus died 2000 years ago. But the bible said the world is only 6000 years old.
I'm not that good at mathematics but i'm sure there is an error somewhere. Either that or our bible writers couldn't count.

You obviously didn't understand the point Maamin was making.

Adam was 130 when he gave birth to Seth (Gen 5v3). And Adam died at the age of 930 (Gen 5v5).

Meaning that Adam was still alive for the first 800 years of Seth's life. Seth was 800 when Adam died. And Seth died at the age of 912 (Gen 5v8).

So for you to get the time frame that elapsed between when Adam was born to the time Seth died. You can't get it by adding Adam's age to Seth's age (930 + 912). That will presume that Seth was born after Adam died. But Adam was only 130 when Seth was born.

So if Adam was 130 when Seth was born and Seth lived for 912 years. The total time frame will be:

130 + 912 = 1042

Not;

930 + 912 = 1842

Also Seth was 557 years and Adam was 687 years when Methuselah was born; meaning that Seth still lived for the first 355 years of Methuselah's 969 years; and Adam still lived for the first 243 years of Methuselah's life.

So the total timeframe between Adam's birth and Methuselah's death would be:

130 + 557 + 969 = 1656

Not;

930 + 912 + 969 = 2811

Their lifetimes intersected, some lived in eachother's lifetimes. So you can't get the correct total timeframe by adding up the age they died. That will give you a wrong overbloated figure.

Shalom!

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 7:33am On Mar 10, 2015
Addietunes:

You ve got to be kidding me, why is it that christians always love to defend their beliefs without reasoning? Well according to my post there, Adam and Seth are only the ones in the same timeline. If you can still calculate, you would notice the error, by the way, try to reason this time and not just saying whatever that pops into your brain.

If you know the person typing behind this keyboard, you will understand am not the religious type, it amaze me why you are already thinking am a christian but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I hate lazy students that cant make simple meaning or assessment of issues. Here is their timeline from Wiki,please help yourself out of your misery. And dont bother Quoting me again cause I will not reply you.. I dont talk much.

The timeline of the Tanakh can be estimated using the ages given in Genesis and Jubliees. Starting with the creation of Adam and adding the information when his son was born, the age of his son, etc. this gives a timeline from Adam's creation to the death of Jacob 2255 years later (according to the Masoretic text, the Septuagint timeline is significantly longer).

1 - Adam (generation 1) is created.[1]
130 - Adam and Eve receive a son, Seth (generation 2)
235 - Enosh is born (generation 3)
325 - Kenan is born (generation 4)
395 - Mahalaleel is born (generation 5)
460 - Jared is born (generation 6)
622 - Enoch is born (generation 7)
687 - Methuselah is born (generation cool "Methuselah" can be translated "when he dies it comes."[citation needed]
874 - Lamech is born (generation 9)
930 - Adam dies, aged 930
987 - Enoch taken up by God (did not die [Gen5:24]), aged 365
1042 - Seth dies, aged 912
1056 - Noah is born (generation 10)
1140 - Enosh dies, aged 905
1235 - Kenan dies, aged 910
1290 - Mahalaleel dies, aged 895
1422 - Jared dies, aged 962
1556 - Noah has three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth (generation 11)
1651 - Lamech (Noah's father) dies, aged 777
1656 - Methuselah dies the same year as the flood comes, aged 969
1658 - Arpachshad is born (generation 12)
1693 - Shelah is born (generation 13)
1723 - Eber is born (generation 14)
1757 - Peleg is born (generation 15)
1787 - Reu is born (generation 16)
1819 - Serug is born (generation 17)
1849 - Nahor is born (generation 18)
1878 - Terah is born (generation 19)
1948 - Abraham is born (generation 20)
1958 - Sarah, Abrahams wife, is born
1996 - Peleg dies, aged 239 - this is the first death mentioned in the Bible after the flood
1997 - Nahor dies, aged 148
2006 - Noah, generation 10 after Adam, dies at the age of 950
2026 - Reu dies, aged 239
2034 - Ishmael is born (generation 21)
2048 - Isaac is born (also generation 21)
2049 - Serug dies, aged 230
2083 - Terah dies, aged 205
2085 - Sarah dies
2088 - Isaac is married at the age of 40, to Rebecca
2096 - Arpachshad dies, aged 438
2108 - Jacob is born, with his twin Esau (generation 22)
2123 - Abraham dies, aged 175
2126 - Shelah dies, aged 433
2156 - Shem dies, aged 600
2187 - Eber dies, aged 464
2228 - Isaac dies, aged 180
2238 - Jacob moves to Egypt at the age of 130
2255 - Jacob dies in Egypt, aged 147

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 7:37am On Mar 10, 2015
davien:
It's a christian cult, calling themselves "creationists"....they settle for the earth being 6000 years and Adam living and riding alongside dinosaurs.... cheesy

I guess The bolded is a figment of your imagination..you are way out of tune. undecided
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 7:44am On Mar 10, 2015
ayoku777:


You obviously didn't understand the point Maamin was making.

Adam was 130 when he gave birth to Seth (Gen 5v3). And Adam died at the age of 930 (Gen 5v5).

Meaning that Adam was still alive for the first 800 years of Seth's life. Seth was 800 when Adam died. And Seth died at the age of 912 (Gen 5v8).

So for you to get the time frame that elapsed between when Adam was born to the time Seth died. You can't get it by adding Adam's age to Seth's age (930 + 912). That will presume that Seth was born after Adam died. But Adam was only 130 when Seth was born.

So if Adam was 130 when Seth was born and Seth lived for 912 years. The total time frame will be:

130 + 912 = 1042

Not;

930 + 912 = 1842

Also Seth was 557 years and Adam was 687 years when Methuselah was born; meaning that Seth still lived for the first 355 years of Methuselah's 969 years

So the total timeframe between when Adam's birth and Methuselah's death would be:

130 + 557 + 969 = 1656

Not;

930 + 912 + 969 = 2811

Their lifetimes intersected, some lived in eachother's lifetimes. So you can't get the correct total timeframe by adding up the age they died. That will give you a wrong overbloated figure.

Shalom!

Thank you very much for this explanation..i told Op to study 'Timeline' I guess he just want to make a blind argument but is left for him to get his calculator to work..i have dropped their timeline above for him. cool

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Nobody: 8:25am On Mar 10, 2015
malonephill:
Observing


Cc francistony
undecided

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Addietunes(m): 8:28am On Mar 10, 2015
Maamin:


If you know the person typing behind this keyboard, you will understand am not the religious type, it amaze me why you are already thinking am a christian but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I hate lazy students that cant make simple meaning or assessment of issues. Here is their timeline from Wiki,please help yourself out of your misery. And dont bother Quoting me again cause I will not reply you.. I dont talk much.

The timeline of the Tanakh can be estimated using the ages given in Genesis and Jubliees. Starting with the creation of Adam and adding the information when his son was born, the age of his son, etc. this gives a timeline from Adam's creation to the death of Jacob 2255 years later (according to the Masoretic text, the Septuagint timeline is significantly longer).

1 - Adam (generation 1) is created.[1]
130 - Adam and Eve receive a son, Seth (generation 2)
235 - Enosh is born (generation 3)
325 - Kenan is born (generation 4)
395 - Mahalaleel is born (generation 5)
460 - Jared is born (generation 6)
622 - Enoch is born (generation 7)
687 - Methuselah is born (generation cool "Methuselah" can be translated "when he dies it comes."[citation needed]
874 - Lamech is born (generation 9)
930 - Adam dies, aged 930
987 - Enoch taken up by God (did not die [Gen5:24]), aged 365
1042 - Seth dies, aged 912
1056 - Noah is born (generation 10)
1140 - Enosh dies, aged 905
1235 - Kenan dies, aged 910
1290 - Mahalaleel dies, aged 895
1422 - Jared dies, aged 962
1556 - Noah has three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth (generation 11)
1651 - Lamech (Noah's father) dies, aged 777
1656 - Methuselah dies the same year as the flood comes, aged 969
1658 - Arpachshad is born (generation 12)
1693 - Shelah is born (generation 13)
1723 - Eber is born (generation 14)
1757 - Peleg is born (generation 15)
1787 - Reu is born (generation 16)
1819 - Serug is born (generation 17)
1849 - Nahor is born (generation 18)
1878 - Terah is born (generation 19)
1948 - Abraham is born (generation 20)
1958 - Sarah, Abrahams wife, is born
1996 - Peleg dies, aged 239 - this is the first death mentioned in the Bible after the flood
1997 - Nahor dies, aged 148
2006 - Noah, generation 10 after Adam, dies at the age of 950
2026 - Reu dies, aged 239
2034 - Ishmael is born (generation 21)
2048 - Isaac is born (also generation 21)
2049 - Serug dies, aged 230
2083 - Terah dies, aged 205
2085 - Sarah dies
2088 - Isaac is married at the age of 40, to Rebecca
2096 - Arpachshad dies, aged 438
2108 - Jacob is born, with his twin Esau (generation 22)
2123 - Abraham dies, aged 175
2126 - Shelah dies, aged 433
2156 - Shem dies, aged 600
2187 - Eber dies, aged 464
2228 - Isaac dies, aged 180
2238 - Jacob moves to Egypt at the age of 130
2255 - Jacob dies in Egypt, aged 147

Like I said, I may be wrong with the calculations, but if Jesus died 2000 years ago, and the world as the Christians can tell is 6000 years, that means that, the generation from Adam to the birth of Jesus is within 4000 years which according to your calculations is still wrong. Please recalculate very well.


Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 10:36am On Mar 10, 2015
Maamin:


I guess The bolded is a figment of your imagination..you are way out of tune. undecided
It's straight from ken ham

Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by menesheh(m): 11:21am On Mar 10, 2015
Addietunes:
The Bible tells us that:

Adam lived 930 years. (Genesis 5:5)

Seth lived 912 years.(Genesis 5:

Methuselah lived 969 years.(Genesis 5:27)

And Noah lived 950 years. (Genesis 9:29). If we calculate those years, they are close to 4000 years. If we add up the generation of moses, Abraham, david, and jesus . I'm sure they would be more than 2000years all making 6000 years. Also according to the bible, Jesus died 2000 years ago. But the bible said the world is only 6000 years old.
I'm not that good at mathematics but i'm sure there is an error somewhere. Either that or our bible writers couldn't count.


You Dont calculate those biblical exagerations that way despite am agnostic aka atheist.

The ways it goes was that
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth
When Seth had lived 105 years, he became the father. Same goes on and on.

So adam wasnt 830 yrs b4 he gave birth to seth. All of them continue living till each father gave to the ghost. Careful calculation will amount to 2000 yrs or so
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by menesheh(m): 11:53am On Mar 10, 2015
Maamin:


I guess The bolded is a figment of your imagination..you are way out of tune. undecided


Same happened to you too by believing in a virgin birth and human living more than 900yrs in mere 6000yrs ago despite davien was wrong too cus science projected more than he estimated about time frame of dinosaurs existence on earth
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by gatiano(m): 12:41pm On Mar 10, 2015
Very nice, People are waking up, it is the time. In truth it is 6101 years today, The non-black people can not find their history past this time range (4000BC). Adam was the first non-black people. people i say, not one man. People lived much longer based on how they eat and what they eat.

The world is trillions and trillions of years old, The only and the ony who existed before the universe or time are the Black people.

read
https://www.nairaland.com/2163386/african-blackroots-science-religion-science


Addietunes:
The Bible tells us that:

Adam lived 930 years. (Genesis 5:5)

Seth lived 912 years.(Genesis 5:

Methuselah lived 969 years.(Genesis 5:27)

And Noah lived 950 years. (Genesis 9:29). If we calculate those years, they are close to 4000 years. If we add up the generation of moses, Abraham, david, and jesus . I'm sure they would be more than 2000years all making 6000 years. Also according to the bible, Jesus died 2000 years ago. But the bible said the world is only 6000 years old.
I'm not that good at mathematics but i'm sure there is an error somewhere. Either that or our bible writers couldn't count.

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 2:04pm On Mar 10, 2015
davien:
It's straight from ken ham

Reasons why you will be quick to believe in the pink unicorn and flying spaghetti grin
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 2:13pm On Mar 10, 2015
menesheh:



Same happened to you too by believing in a virgin birth and human living more than 900yrs in mere 6000yrs ago despite davien was wrong too cus science projected more than he estimated about time frame of dinosaurs existence on earth

Of course humans lived that longer because they were the early creations, strong and durable to their natural surrounding , the bible attest to it, but how Davien came up with Adam living and riding alongside with T-Rexes is an empty claim to me. undecided
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 2:42pm On Mar 10, 2015
menesheh:



Same happened to you too by believing in a virgin birth and human living more than 900yrs in mere 6000yrs ago despite davien was wrong too cus science projected more than he estimated about time frame of dinosaurs existence on earth
please tell me where i ever claimed anything about dinosaurs..
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by menesheh(m): 3:29pm On Mar 10, 2015
davien:
please tell me where i ever claimed anything about dinosaurs..



where i was reffering to is this place

Adam living and riding alongside dinosaurs.... cheesy, which is still under the 6000yrs claimed by christains and jews abt creation of the earth cum universe



i understood that you are just making ridicule of the whole thing grin
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 7:21pm On Mar 10, 2015
menesheh:




where i was reffering to is this place

Adam living and riding alongside dinosaurs.... cheesy, which is still under the 6000yrs claimed by christains and jews abt creation of the earth cum universe



i understood that you are just making ridicule of the whole thing grin
Well on a serious note, they really believe it....Adam to them is like Fred Flintstone
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 7:21am On Mar 11, 2015
davien:
Well on a serious note, they really believe it....Adam to them is like Fred Flintstone

Stop lying Adam did not exist the same time with dinosaurs angry
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 2:46pm On Mar 11, 2015
Maamin:


Stop lying Adam did not exist the same time with dinosaurs angry
You can google "ken ham and dinosaurs" to see what a fellow christian and his cult following have to say about that...

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by sorextee(m): 3:29pm On Mar 11, 2015
Their calender was different. Maybe during their time, it was 4mnths in a year..
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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 6:09pm On Mar 11, 2015
davien:
You can google "ken ham and dinosaurs" to see what a fellow christian and his cult following have to say about that...

I would have taking you seriously if you had asked me to check within the pages of my bible for evidence...#seems like a straw man's argument to me.
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 6:42pm On Mar 11, 2015
Maamin:


I would have taking you seriously if you had asked me to check within the pages of my bible for evidence...#seems like a straw man's argument to me.
Did you bother reading any post of this conversation?
I gave an account of a christian cult asserting the earth to be 6000 years old....you asked follow up questions on that(which is a normal thing to do), then went on to ask for "evidence" in the "bible" from someone who doesn't hold that belief(which is me)...
If anyone is presenting a strawman(i.e misrepresenting a case), then it's you.
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Joshthefirst(m): 6:55pm On Mar 11, 2015
Maamin:


Stop lying Adam did not exist the same time with dinosaurs angry
How do you know?
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Joshthefirst(m): 6:58pm On Mar 11, 2015
Addietunes:

You ve got to be kidding me, why is it that christians always love to defend their beliefs without reasoning? Well according to my post there, Adam and Seth are only the ones in the same timeline. If you can still calculate, you would notice the error, by the way, try to reason this time and not just saying whatever that pops into your brain.
Unfortunately you are the one refusing to reason. This is simple logic and mathematics. If my dad was Adam and I was Seth would I sum up both of our ages to find out the age of the earth?
Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 7:35pm On Mar 11, 2015
Joshthefirst:
How do you know?
maamin,meet joshthefirst....a creationist.
Signature comments are;
"How do you know?"
"Where you there?"

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Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by Maamin(m): 7:47pm On Mar 11, 2015
davien:
Did you bother reading any post of this conversation?
I gave an account of a christian cult asserting the earth to be 6000 years old....you asked follow up questions on that(which is a normal thing to do), then went on to ask for "evidence" in the "bible" from someone who doesn't hold that belief(which is me)...
If anyone is presenting a strawman(i.e misrepresenting a case), then it's you.

Mr. the age of the earth is not my problem here...my question was over the claims that Adam lived alongside dinosaurs and I asked which evidence do you have for that and you referred me t one "ken ham and dinosaurs"...which sounds like a fairy tale to me..and I said I would have taken you seriously if it were from the bible which I believe in and base my argument. You dont have to belief in the bible to refer to it just like you didnt take "ken ham and dinosaurs" for truth before pointing to his article as your source.

Now in a nutshell, since this is not from the bible which I strongly believe in then your "ken ham and dinosaurs" story is.....
























In my dustbin right now. undecided

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