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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Demmzy15(m): 2:05am On Mar 14, 2015
agileson:


Personally I think its going to divide differently. I think what might happen is either some or all northern states above the middle belt get kicked out like Gideon orkar nearly did in 1990 and maybe the yorubas for always appeasing the fulani (no Yoruba man ever attempted to coup against the tribalistic north unlike every other ethnicity including northerners).

But if i play according to your scenario. The west will do pretty ok. They might have the smallest population or land due to Midwest probably joining East as well as the north potentially keeping kwara so they will have less population and be about to govern themselves well.

The East will do ok too but there might be growing pains due to mistrust for the igbos among other tribes until they recognize the true egalitarian nature of the igbo and realize that their destiny is truly in their own hands and its a great destiny.

The north will still be the same. Backward, tribalistic, feudal and foolish. There will be a constant trickle of refugees from the north to other countries every 3 or 4 years due to drought and jihadism until Chad, Niger and other countries start invading and pressing territorial claims and the global tragedy that is violent Islam continues.
Kwara State won't join the north, it's 80% Yorubas. What can happen in Kwara is that, it can be divided and the Yorubas would go with the West.

Point of correction, please remove Islam from this. We are talking about the geopolitical zones of Nigeria and you are bringing Islam! It doesn't make sense you know!
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Demmzy15(m): 2:12am On Mar 14, 2015
macof:


Brother don't put hope on Anioma, especially Ika Towns cus Anioma are even more weary of Igbo association than Ikweere
Tivs of Benue will never follow Igbos, and Idoma will prefer to stick close to Igala away from Igbos whom will turn them into minorities that have no say against over 25million Igbos
Efik/Ibibio are happy in SS with Ijaw and Edo perfect trio after all many towns known as ijaw today are of efik/ibibio origins

you went really dumb with ur contradictions. Kwara is in the middle belt and you jst said middle belt will never allow to be submerged with Arewa so review ur comment

Nupe, Bariba and Yoruba make up Kwara with the Yoruba ruling the state in terms of politics and language. All Igbomina Towns + Ilorin are leaving the North central to join SW same as Okun towns in Kogi state


Tanks Bro, I'm an Igbomina from kwara. Many yoruba towns in Kwara and kogi won't stay with North. Moreover, even the Kwara Nupe's might chose the West because they are influenced by Yorubas unlike the Niger Nupe's who are influenced by Hausa!

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by dolphinheart(m): 2:28am On Mar 14, 2015
BuddahMonk:
at the bolded what East have to do is to control population and promote highrise residential abodes to promote land economics and prudent management of it. The reason why Ibadan and Kano are regarded as big cities is because they are not good in land managment, most of the houses in kano and ibadan are bungalows or one storey buildings in a 200ft by 200ft plots of land but in Onicha most of the houses are high rise resdiential bulidnings of 3,4 and 5 storey buildings clustered together in 100ft by 50ft plots of land.
East wont have problem if they control birth rate and land onwership



Why do you think that ibadan and kano has bungalows and one story buildings ? Answer , cus there is space . You dnt cramp urself when you have space. So its not poor land management.
In the area you said people build 3 or four storied apartments, why do they do so? Answer , cus there is no space.

Let's look at ur solution . Do you think an igbo man will agree to any birth control method? Plssss. He has 3 female children and you tell him not to try to see if the 4th will be a male.

Now to land ownership. Would you as a family head with children , who has some few plots of land agree to give someone who has been forced to go back home part of ur family land cus government want you to. Unless the government is military, such government that suggest such will be voted out by the people who had stayed home and acquired family lands.

Probably you dnt know the issues with building many high rise.
Do u think the roads(in its present state) will support high population density ?
If a 5 storied building is put on a small space, where will people park their cars, on the streets?

And we have not even looked at erosion and availability of agricultural land . All these probs are not insumountable but the fact is that if there is any slight mismanagement of the rich resources , the resultant effect will be catastrophic.

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by M4gunners: 2:32am On Mar 14, 2015
As soon as possible.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 4:40am On Mar 14, 2015
ChristyG:
u know nothing about the the geography of nigeria,how can d west have d smallest land or population when oyo state alone is bigger than 3 of the 5 eastern states?u nothing nigga,#emptybrain

When Enugu State is 2 and 1/2 times of Lagos state that houses 30 million plus people. Smallest state in SE; Anambra is 1 and 1/2 times of Lagos.

Ignorant Yoruba man who has never traveled out of his zone.

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 4:54am On Mar 14, 2015
agileson:


Personally I think its going to divide differently. I think what might happen is either some or all northern states above the middle belt get kicked out like Gideon orkar nearly did in 1990 and maybe the yorubas for always appeasing the fulani (no Yoruba man ever attempted to coup against the tribalistic north unlike every other ethnicity including northerners).

But if i play according to your scenario. The west wio pretty ok. They might have the smallest population or land due to Midwest probably joining East as well as the north potentially keeping kwara so they will have less population and be about to govern themselves well.

The East will do ok too but there might be growing pains due to mistrust for the igbos among other tribes until they recognize the true egalitarian nature of the igbo and realize that their destiny is truly in their own hands and its a great destiny.

The north will still be the same. Backward, tribalistic, feudal and foolish. There will be a constant trickle of refugees from the north to other countries every 3 or 4 years due to drought and jihadism until Chad, Niger and other countries start invading and pressing territorial claims and the global tragedy that is violent Islam continues.


Typical ignorant yoruba man who doesn't know that Biafra enterprise was not just an Igbo cause; Cross River and Akwa Ibom were active participants as the Igbos. Don't let an Ibibio man catch you. One yoruba man was almost beaten to pulp in Uyo for speaking ill of Biafra; the id$iot like you doesn't know that the Ibibios and Efik were just as involved and lost many of their own as did the Igbos.

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by coldgate(f): 11:55am On Mar 14, 2015
Okay. Revised analogy. Nigeria splits five ways: North, East, West, North central and Middle belt (all minorities not elsewhere classified).

The core North goes back to the groundnut pyramids era with agriculture being the mainstay of their economy and little or no interference from the west including education, religion and culture. Leans towards the middle east and Asia in ideology. Ten years from now, would they be worse off?

The west champions their crusade of quality western education and becomes an educational hub and preferred destination for educational and social tourism. They are both great followers and leaders so there probably wont be problems of Leadership. Where would they be in the next ten years?

The East decides to continue as the industrial hub it is known for. The small China. They harness all their resources including oil which seems to be at an all time low at the moment. However, they might have problems of leadership because they are not known to be good followers. This could mean that smaller nations may yet come out from this East Country. Would they be better of in the next ten years?

I will be back with questions for the other two units.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by cheruv: 9:29pm On Mar 14, 2015
macof:


Brother don't put hope on Anioma, especially Ika Towns cus Anioma are even more weary of Igbo association than Ikweere
Tivs of Benue will never follow Igbos, and Idoma will prefer to stick close to Igala away from Igbos whom will turn them into minorities that have no say against over 25million Igbos
Efik/Ibibio are happy in SS with Ijaw and Edo perfect trio after all many towns known as ijaw today are of efik/ibibio origins

you went really dumb with ur contradictions. Kwara is in the middle belt and you jst said middle belt will never allow to be submerged with Arewa so review ur comment

Nupe, Bariba and Yoruba make up Kwara with the Yoruba ruling the state in terms of politics and language. All Igbomina Towns + Ilorin are leaving the North central to join SW same as Okun towns in Kogi state


as a yoloba..you still exposed your hatred for the great Igbo nation. we Igbos are definitely taking Anioma, including igbanke that lies in Edo state.
we don't need ijaws,nor Mmoño or all the other nations you mentioned up there. we are only content with Igbo and Igboid groups.. and no nation, including the ofe'mmanu people can interfere with our business angry
if your eyes can be on kwara which the Fulani seized from you guys then you should expect more from us as regards Anioma that provided most of our officers during the Biafran war of independence cheesy

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 11:19pm On Mar 14, 2015
When i said benue i meant Igbo communities in Benue, they have two local government and they are agragrian communities, am not including non igbos in Benue because they will be of no use to us, the next is igbos in Cross River State and Akwa Ibom as well as Rivers depending on wish to follow us, we are not begging to include anybody but all the entire igboland is automatically one the other ethnic groups that will love to be with Biafrans.
Your an ediot for say that Anioma people are wary of Igbo, Anioma people are core Igbos and they partake in everything SE Igbos do, they have their slot in Ohaneze and they produce presidents aswell, the people in Aka ikenga are Aniomas as well like Pat Utomi, Ndudi Elumelu and Sylvester Monye...if the ika wish to join yolobas nobody will stop them but dont speak for anybody.

mind you the day yolobas think of annexing Ilorin that will be the end of the word yoloba because the fulanis wont take so easy with you people,


macof:


Brother don't put hope on Anioma, especially Ika Towns cus Anioma are even more weary of Igbo association than Ikweere
Tivs of Benue will never follow Igbos, and Idoma will prefer to stick close to Igala away from Igbos whom will turn them into minorities that have no say against over 25million Igbos
Efik/Ibibio are happy in SS with Ijaw and Edo perfect trio after all many towns known as ijaw today are of efik/ibibio origins

you went really dumb with ur contradictions. Kwara is in the middle belt and you jst said middle belt will never allow to be submerged with Arewa so review ur comment

Nupe, Bariba and Yoruba make up Kwara with the Yoruba ruling the state in terms of politics and language. All Igbomina Towns + Ilorin are leaving the North central to join SW same as Okun towns in Kogi state


Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by macof(m): 11:34pm On Mar 14, 2015
cheruv:

as a yoloba..you still exposed your hatred for the great Igbo nation. we Igbos are definitely taking Anioma, including igbanke that lies in Edo state.
we don't need ijaws,nor Mmoño or all the other nations you mentioned up there. we are only content with Igbo and Igboid groups.. and no nation, including the ofe'mmanu people can interfere with our business angry
if your eyes can be on kwara which the Fulani seized from you guys then you should expect more from us as regards Anioma that provided most of our officers during the Biafran war of independence cheesy

This is why I don't like having discussions on Geography and history with Igbos. only few of u are intelligent enough to grasp the situation of kwara state which fulani are a terrible minority quite insignificant if u ask me, nobody can even properly identify a fulani cus they are mixed or yorubanised already

As for ur confidence on anioma, let's wait and see. Nobody will decide for them after all
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 11:34pm On Mar 14, 2015
yolobas dont build bungalow because they have space, they build because the materials in their building construction cant erect high rise bulding, have you seen any high rise building built of mud and red earth, the reason while yolobas squat in face me i face you its because they lack building intelligence, your telling me yolobas build houses because they have spaces but its only in yolobaland that you see 500 people cramped in one compound with 2 toilets and 2 bathrooms.

on population control, Igbo have gone far with population control more than yolobas, polygamy is no longer common in igboland but its still trending in yolobaland, giving birth out of wedlock is a culture in yolobaland which help in the production of unwanted babies that end up becoming nuisance in the cities, marriage in yolobaland is as cheap as ground while their women are as lose as faulty public taps urinating children anyhow, so at 27 years a yoloba youth must have divorced 3 wives that cost him nothing to married them while giving birth to children with reckless abandone.
An Igboman may like marry at 35 or 37 with a steady source of income to take care of his family but a yoloba can marry at 21 without any job at hand or any in the horizon but will be giving birth to children without planning for their future beforehand

East is embracing modern family planning and governments in east are sounding it like a warning to everybody



dolphinheart:


Why do you think that ibadan and kano has bungalows and one story buildings ? Answer , cus there is space . You dnt cramp urself when you have space. So its not poor land management.
In the area you said people build 3 or four storied apartments, why do they do so? Answer , cus there is no space.

Let's look at ur solution . Do you think an igbo man will agree to any birth control method? Plssss. He has 3 female children and you tell him not to try to see if the 4th will be a male.

Now to land ownership. Would you as a family head with children , who has some few plots of land agree to give someone who has been forced to go back home part of ur family land cus government want you to. Unless the government is military, such government that suggest such will be voted out by the people who had stayed home and acquired family lands.

Probably you dnt know the issues with building many high rise.
Do u think the roads(in its present state) will support high population density ?
If a 5 storied building is put on a small space, where will people park their cars, on the streets?

And we have not even looked at erosion and availability of agricultural land . All these probs are not insumountable but the fact is that if there is any slight mismanagement of the rich resources , the resultant effect will be catastrophic.

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by macof(m): 11:42pm On Mar 14, 2015
BuddahMonk:
yolobas dont build bungalow because they have space, they build because the materials in their building construction cant erect high rise bulding, have you seen any high rise building built of mud and red earth, the reason while yolobas squat in face me i face you its because they lack building intelligence, your telling me yolobas build houses because they have spaces but its only in yolobaland that you see 500 people cramped in one compound with 2 toilets and 2 bathrooms.

on population control, Igbo have gone far with population control more than yolobas, polygamy is no longer common in igboland but its still trending in yolobaland, giving birth out of wedlock is a culture in yolobaland which help in the production of unwanted babies that end up becoming nuisance in the cities, marriage in yolobaland is as cheap as ground while their women are as lose as faulty public taps urinating children anyhow, so at 27 years a yoloba youth must have divorced 3 wives that cost him nothing to married them while giving birth to children with reckless abandone.
An Igboman may like marry at 35 or 37 with a steady source of income to take care of his family but a yoloba can marry at 21 without any job at hand or any in the horizon but will be giving birth to children without planning for their future beforehand

East is embracing modern family planning and governments in east are sounding it like a warning to everybody




smh. Lies and slander From top to bottom
Why can't u let go of ur hatred for Yoruba?
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 11:43pm On Mar 14, 2015
you dont like arguing Geography with an Igboman when you only traveled from Odogbolu to Badagry, have you ever stepped out of your yolobaland before claiming an authority in geography, you consider fulanis minority in ilorin but they are occupying all the traditional institutions there and even chasing you around at Oshogbo to corner that side as well.

Anioma are Biafrans and nothing a yolobaman said that will change anything

macof:


This is why I don't like having discussions on Geography and history with Igbos. only few of u are intelligent enough to grasps the situation of kwara state which fulani are a terrible minority quite insignificant if u ask me, nobody can even properly identify a fulani cus they are mixed or yorubanised already

As for ur confidence on anioma, let's wait and see. Nobody will decide for them after all

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 11:46pm On Mar 14, 2015
I dont hate Yolobas but dont come here trying to rewrite Igbo history or tamper with our boundaries

macof:


smh. Lies and slander From top to bottom
Why can't u let go of ur hatred for Yoruba?
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 11:57pm On Mar 14, 2015
Demmzy15:

Kwara State won't join the north, it's 80% Yorubas. What can happen in Kwara is that, it can be divided and the Yorubas would go with the West.

Point of correction, please remove Islam from this. We are talking about the geopolitical zones of Nigeria and you are bringing Islam! It doesn't make sense you know!
Majority of them don't know anything about kwara, some fulani in ilorin cannot even understand fulani again, and this is because of d majority of d Yorubas in ilorin, and if u doubt me, go to ilorin and speak any other language aside from yoruba and English

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by macof(m): 12:09am On Mar 15, 2015
BuddahMonk:
you dont like arguing Geography with an Igboman when you only traveled from Odogbolu to Badagry, have you ever stepped out of your yolobaland before claiming an authority in geography, you consider fulanis minority in ilorin but they are occupying all the traditional institutions there and even chasing you around at Oshogbo to corner that side as well.

Anioma are Biafrans and nothing a yolobaman said that will change anything


Again u prove ur low level of intelligence like most Igbos on this matter. Like I said u aren't intelligent if u were u won't base such a silly assumption on a person you've never met

I have conducted several interviews with anioma people, as I have in-laws from Aniocha and they don't care much about "Igbo" asides language and relate much more with Ijaw and Urhobo on grounds of "one South South" and would simply tell u "I am delta" as if delta is an ethnic group...this is a reality I have seen..unlike ur group of noise makers that rely on internet coaching


Wat bleeping traditional institution? Pls name the fulanis that are monarchs in Kwara, let's see how much u can get from google or ask ur noise maker group

I don't care about anioma being in Biafra or not...only biafrans should care at this moment so I feel ur hurt grin
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Bifwoli: 12:16am On Mar 15, 2015
Vote to split Nigeria...a very good and welcome idea.

Let Biafra nation come life again.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by GBTYO: 12:33am On Mar 15, 2015
agileson:


Personally I think its going to divide differently. I think what might happen is either some or all northern states above the middle belt get kicked out like Gideon orkar nearly did in 1990 and maybe the yorubas for always appeasing the fulani (no Yoruba man ever attempted to coup against the tribalistic north unlike every other ethnicity including northerners).

But if i play according to your scenario. The west will do pretty ok. They might have the smallest population or land due to Midwest probably joining East as well as the north potentially keeping kwara so they will have less population and be about to govern themselves well.

The East will do ok too but there might be growing pains due to mistrust for the igbos among other tribes until they recognize the true egalitarian nature of the igbo and realize that their destiny is truly in their own hands and its a great destiny.

The north will still be the same. Backward, tribalistic, feudal and foolish. There will be a constant trickle of refugees from the north to other countries every 3 or 4 years due to drought and jihadism until Chad, Niger and other countries start invading and pressing territorial claims and the global tragedy that is violent Islam continues.

The west will never be allowed autonomy by the north. The north will fight a viscious war to keep the west subjugated. ISIS is in the nieghbood and have since stated their alliance with bokos.

In less than 2yrs from now ISIS will have siezed large swaths of northern Nigeria without much ressistance as the disgruntled north will opt for ISIS to frustrate the central govt. Pictures and videos of northern muslims welcoming ISIS will lead to balkanization by the southsouth and southeast. ISIS will soon overwelm the middle belt and Abuja forcing the presidency to relocate. The middle belt will see the most brutal war in modern history with the region dubbed the 'killing fields" by the media.

The onslaught will then target the SW with no viable ressistance. Even among the SW populace there will be confusion as to what to do as the newly carved out southsouth and southeast will ressist any move for integration with the west.

It will be doomsday for the west with anarchy let loose as a result of no central or organized gov and little or no int'l concern to their plight. The looming anarchy by fuedal street thugs will see the SW openly accept ISIS. ISIS will first come as tolerant, unifying and stabilizing.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by dolphinheart(m): 10:39am On Mar 15, 2015
BuddahMonk:
yolobas dont build bungalow because they have space, they build because the materials in their building construction cant erect high rise bulding, have you seen any high rise building built of mud and red earth, the reason while yolobas squat in face me i face you its because they lack building intelligence, your telling me yolobas build houses because they have spaces but its only in yolobaland that you see 500 people cramped in one compound with 2 toilets and 2 bathrooms.

on population control, Igbo have gone far with population control more than yolobas, polygamy is no longer common in igboland but its still trending in yolobaland, giving birth out of wedlock is a culture in yolobaland which help in the production of unwanted babies that end up becoming nuisance in the cities, marriage in yolobaland is as cheap as ground while their women are as lose as faulty public taps urinating children anyhow, so at 27 years a yoloba youth must have divorced 3 wives that cost him nothing to married them while giving birth to children with reckless abandone.
An Igboman may like marry at 35 or 37 with a steady source of income to take care of his family but a yoloba can marry at 21 without any job at hand or any in the horizon but will be giving birth to children without planning for their future beforehand

East is embracing modern family planning and governments in east are sounding it like a warning to everybody



We are disscussing issues that might never come up with opinions we dnt fully understand and you are already Making derogatory statements! Haba!

Sir, look at mordern structures built by house owners in the west, they use mordern building materials and still most dnt go beyond the first floor. If the issue has been materials , then mordern materials must have caused mordern houses to rise higher. But in reality, mordern houses still maintain their preference for horizontal expansion to vertical expansion, why? Because there is space.

Now to issue of issue of mud houses and lack of building intelligence. Yorubas have long leaned how to build homes for themselves using locally sourced materials that enable them to put up structures they can successfuly reside in. Until external influences (foreigners)came into play. Yorubas built homes and not houses for showcase things. Only public structures are mostimes bigger.
Does that method show lack of building inteligence? Nop. It is cost effective and some still last till today. Even till today, some houses in the most developed country(U.S)still use wood(locally sourced material ).also that method provided all with the ability to provide homes for themselves at Little cost. To me , this is called organized community and intelligence.
Q: the high rises in the east, when where they built? Where where the materials sourced, and how where the easterners building houses before foreigners came ?

Now to the issue of living conditions . When a group of people try to develop their environment and suddenly, there is very high and continual influx of of people that the local authorities cannot deal with, What do u think will happen? . What do u think will happen to the poor living in such areas. Google Hong Kong and its poor to see how they are living due to influx of migrants. You find every tribe living in those structures u mentioned above.
Q: what do you think will happen in the east if it experiences the influx the west is still experiencing ?

On population control . Polygamy is no longer trending in the west.
Giving birth out of wedlock is not a culture. In Yoruba land , parents do not support abortion and encourage the girl to have the baby why? 1)cus there is space expand 2. Yorubas still generaly view that if they where allowed to manage their own government. There can be free education, reduced cost of feeding, available space to build homes, that children born out of wedlock can be educated and become useful to society.
Marriage should not be expensive . If two people love each other and want to do so , they should be guided and helped.
Ur generalization of Yoruba youth is wrong. Or are u saying that easterners dnt have children out of wedlock or the women dnt sleep with men, or they dnt divorce?
Easterners marry late mainly due to the expensive nature of marriages among them. My friend eze was not ok for weeks after his girlfriends family gave him the list . He would (like others) have loved to marry early.
If the country splits the Yorubas can afford to marry early and have many children cus there is space and many social services will be free.
If it splits , the east will have an immediate land prob due to present population and not future pop caused by birth rate. You can only maintain ur pop if families have less or equal to 2.1 number of children on the average.
Q: do u think an igbo man will allow the government set up a law stopping families from having 2 children or less?expecially when he feels he could take care of them ?
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by meforyou1(m): 10:59am On Mar 15, 2015
raumdeuter:


And you calling someone an illiterate doesnt know the old Western region also comprised of Edo and Delta states? or who is the illiterate now?

Thats the picture below, which is bigger west or east

[img]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Nigeria#/media/File:Nigeria_1960-1963.png[/img]

can idle yorubas see from this map, lagos was a standalone region. Quite different and far from western region
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by dolphinheart(m): 11:05am On Mar 15, 2015
GBTYO:


The west will never be allowed autonomy by the north. The north will fight a viscious war to keep the west subjugated. ISIS is in the nieghbood and have since stated their alliance with bokos.

In less than 2yrs from now ISIS will have siezed large swaths of northern Nigeria without much ressistance as the disgruntled north will opt for ISIS to frustrate the central govt. Pictures and videos of northern muslims welcoming ISIS will lead to balkanization by the southsouth and southeast. ISIS will soon overwelm the middle belt and Abuja forcing the presidency to relocate. The middle belt will see the most brutal war in modern history with the region dubbed the 'killing fields" by the media.

The onslaught will then target the SW with no viable ressistance. Even among the SW populace there will be confusion as to what to do as the newly carved out southsouth and southeast will ressist any move for integration with the west.

It will be doomsday for the west with anarchy let loose as a result of no central or organized gov and little or no int'l concern to their plight. The looming anarchy by fuedal street thugs will see the SW openly accept ISIS. ISIS will first come as tolerant, unifying and stabilizing.

Those nightmares of urs will only remain nightmares.

1. The west has more international clout than rest of naija combined
2. U re not even sure if the delta ibos will go along with the east talk less of ijaws(who have shown u who they support in the past) or the itsekiris and benins (who have yoruba ancestry)
3. The west have a mode of government that I'm time past have been successful and adjudged to be very good by the foreigners when they came. It was so good that it was adopted by them when they ruled nigeria.
4. The west dnt do unnecesssary coups or like to fight just for fighting sake or to show u re strong cus its not the best method and nothing good comes out of it. 5. Isis can't get out of syria as a goverment, talk less of being in the north .

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by GBTYO: 12:57pm On Mar 15, 2015
dolphinheart:


Those nightmares of urs will only remain nightmares.

1. The west has more international clout than rest of naija combined
2. U re not even sure if the delta ibos will go along with the east talk less of ijaws(who have shown u who they support in the past) or the itsekiris and benins (who have yoruba ancestry)
3. The west have a mode of government that I'm time past have been successful and adjudged to be very good by the foreigners when they came. It was so good that it was adopted by them when they ruled nigeria.
4. The west dnt do unnecesssary coups or like to fight just for fighting sake or to show u re strong cus its not the best method and nothing good comes out of it. 5. Isis can't get out of syria as a goverment, talk less of being in the north .

I am sorry to disappoint you but there is no way the north will let you go neither is there no way the Niger Delta or Southeast will want you integrated with them.

A brand new Emir will be installed for each state in the SW.

Why do you think Dangote is building his refinery in Ondo?
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by SOUNDKING: 2:26pm On Mar 15, 2015
Any prayer that points the split of this zoo has my Big Amen, as for those saying Biafra will be this or that should remember that before the togetherness of this zoo, evry animal was free to be where he chooses, make Nigeria split to 200 nations i will still be happy to be free. Long live the land of the rising sun.

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by coldgate(f): 8:06pm On Mar 15, 2015
Long live Nigeria. For all our sakes.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Demmzy15(m): 8:08pm On Mar 15, 2015
yemaldo:

Majority of them don't know anything about kwara, some fulani in ilorin cannot even understand fulani again, and this is because of d majority of d Yorubas in ilorin, and if u doubt me, go to ilorin and speak any other language aside from yoruba and English
Of course, they know nothing. Even in Kwara State today you can hardly see any family speaking Fulani as their home language for communication! They think because the Fulanis conquered ilorin then we are automatically Fulanis (!?) very pathetic and annoying!
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by gnykelly(m): 8:54pm On Mar 15, 2015
you guys don't know that the Hausa are very powerful. if they seize to bring food down south the whole economy will collapse die to high inflation. and your import will be worthless. Hausa owns this economy.

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Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by juman(m): 10:06pm On Mar 15, 2015
One nigeria is the problem of this country.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by dolphinheart(m): 10:49pm On Mar 15, 2015
GBTYO:


I am sorry to disappoint you but there is no way the north will let you go neither is there no way the Niger Delta or Southeast will want you integrated with them.

A brand new Emir will be installed for each state in the SW.
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Why do you think Dangote is building his refinery in Ondo?






Ur re just wishing, u dnt have tangeable facts or ideas to back it up.

U did not even bring up any explanation to counter my statement and ur statements are based on ur emotions.

Sir dangote is building infrastructures and expanding his biz structure on the sw cus his intelligent brain has told him that that area is the best and safest area to do it. Wateva the outcome of the splitting , he knows he is safe among the yoruba.
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 4:04am On Mar 16, 2015
check out this useless and oilclot yolobaman talking about geography as it affects SE and Aniomas

Probably your going to meet with a lowlifer Anioma like you not those in the calibers of Ralph Uwechue, Ngozi okonjo Iwuala, Pat Utomi, Dele Ezeoba, Ndudi Elumelu, Sylvester Monye, Obi Prof Chike Edozie the Asagba of Asaba, Prof Okonjo, and others whose names ring a bell yet still proud to show their Igboness, fluant their identity and mingle with their kiths and kins across the Niger. Look at a yoloba dingbat telling Aniomas where to belong or telling Biafrans who they are when majority of Aniomas contributed the larger troops that fought the civil war, do you think they were fools.

Even here in Anambra state do you know that some people dont consider themselves as Igbos, many towns especially the ticket touts and extortionists among them here even call us Igbos yet they are in Anambra State, they do everything Igbos do, answer Igbonames, take Igbo chieftancy titles or do you think there are no stvpid and moronic people in both side of the divide, you met an Anioma who is at home as a Deltan not as an Igbo, ediot yolobaman go and look for made Anioma people not internet touts like you.

I think you should be worried how Fulanis have taken over ilorin and now are ransacking Ore and Oshogbo, why are you conscerned about Igbos and Aniomas, why are you pained over whom the Aniomas chose to move with.


macof:


[s]Again u prove ur low level of intelligence like most Igbos on this matter. Like I said u aren't intelligent if u were u won't base such a silly assumption on a person you've never met

I have conducted several interviews with anioma people, as I have in-laws from Aniocha and they don't care much about "Igbo" asides language and relate much more with Ijaw and Urhobo on grounds of "one South South" and would simply tell u "I am delta" as if delta is an ethnic group...this is a reality I have seen..unlike ur group of noise makers that rely on internet coaching


Wat bleeping traditional institution? Pls name the fulanis that are monarchs in Kwara, let's see how much u can get from google or ask ur noise maker group

I don't care about anioma being in Biafra or not...only biafrans should care at this moment so I feel ur hurt grin [/s]
Re: If Nigeria Was To Divide.... by Nobody: 4:10am On Mar 16, 2015
yolobas live in ghettos,naturally they are slumdwellers and love dirts, even if you like give them the entire Russia and Australia landmass combine they will still build their customary face me i face you back me i back you 500 rooms with 2 toilets and cramp themselves inside like frozen sea food, sh1t inside nylon and throway grin grin grin grin grin



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dolphinheart:

We are disscussing issues that might never come up with opinions we dnt fully understand and you are already Making derogatory statements! Haba!

Sir, look at mordern structures built by house owners in the west, they use mordern building materials and still most dnt go beyond the first floor. If the issue has been materials , then mordern materials must have caused mordern houses to rise higher. But in reality, mordern houses still maintain their preference for horizontal expansion to vertical expansion, why? Because there is space.

Now to issue of issue of mud houses and lack of building intelligence. Yorubas have long leaned how to build homes for themselves using locally sourced materials that enable them to put up structures they can successfuly reside in. Until external influences (foreigners)came into play. Yorubas built homes and not houses for showcase things. Only public structures are mostimes bigger.
Does that method show lack of building inteligence? Nop. It is cost effective and some still last till today. Even till today, some houses in the most developed country(U.S)still use wood(locally sourced material ).also that method provided all with the ability to provide homes for themselves at Little cost. To me , this is called organized community and intelligence.
Q: the high rises in the east, when where they built? Where where the materials sourced, and how where the easterners building houses before foreigners came ?

Now to the issue of living conditions . When a group of people try to develop their environment and suddenly, there is very high and continual influx of of people that the local authorities cannot deal with, What do u think will happen? . What do u think will happen to the poor living in such areas. Google Hong Kong and its poor to see how they are living due to influx of migrants. You find every tribe living in those structures u mentioned above.
Q: what do you think will happen in the east if it experiences the influx the west is still experiencing ?

On population control . Polygamy is no longer trending in the west.
Giving birth out of wedlock is not a culture. In Yoruba land , parents do not support abortion and encourage the girl to have the baby why? 1)cus there is space expand 2. Yorubas still generaly view that if they where allowed to manage their own government. There can be free education, reduced cost of feeding, available space to build homes, that children born out of wedlock can be educated and become useful to society.
Marriage should not be expensive . If two people love each other and want to do so , they should be guided and helped.
Ur generalization of Yoruba youth is wrong. Or are u saying that easterners dnt have children out of wedlock or the women dnt sleep with men, or they dnt divorce?
Easterners marry late mainly due to the expensive nature of marriages among them. My friend eze was not ok for weeks after his girlfriends family gave him the list . He would (like others) have loved to marry early.
If the country splits the Yorubas can afford to marry early and have many children cus there is space and many social services will be free.
If it splits , the east will have an immediate land prob due to present population and not future pop caused by birth rate. You can only maintain ur pop if families have less or equal to 2.1 number of children on the average.
Q: do u think an igbo man will allow the government set up a law stopping families from having 2 children or less?expecially when he feels he could take care of them ?
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