johnw74:


As usual when jw lose points he changes direction.
The original comment by jw was saying, "there is a diffrence between mighty and Almighty"

Now where Jehovah is concerned, (not two chiefs john and james) but one person, Jehovah, there is no diffrence between mighty and Almighty because He is called both.

Unless He is mighty on some ocassions and Almighty on other ocassions, NOT.

It's very simple, but jw go on and on and on complicating it to try and win points.
Looking for truth is the way to go, not winning points for false beliefs.[/b]


You remember me saying you - jw don't believe the scriptures, it's either you don't believe the scriptures or are blind to the scriptures, or want to remain in unbelief or are confused, perhaps deluded.
God does cause delusion to those who don't believe.

I, anyway believe along with scriptures that Jehovah is mighty God and Jehovah is Almighty God because they say so.
And if God is mighty and Almighty then they mean the same when referring to Him.
It's really easy, but you will have to think on it if you are entrenched in what you must believe.

johnw74:


There is only One True God now, it has always been
My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word.

johnw74:

Why don't you tell Father God Jehovah that He Fathered a false god (a god), as you are telling us.

johnw74:

If Jesus is an Angel then His Father Jehovah is also an Angel. But He isn't.

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

RikoduoSennin:


Its a Shame that after following the thread for so long, you still don't understand the point I am trying to make neither the point being discussed.

Let me be VERY CLEAR: I am not saying that Jehovah is not called A Mighty God or Almighty God. For a Fact they are among two of the many titles he holds.

What is am hinting on is that Jesus is ONLY referred to A Mighty God, he is not addressed with the title "Almighty God".

That is why I am hinting on the difference between the two Titles.

If you are implying that there is not different between the two Titles (as regards scope of authority) then there is no point in discussing with you any further.

RikoduoSennin:


Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job. He split himself into two or more beings/persons for what? To confuse people? Could he not have done everything by his lonesome self?

Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.






Jehovah Fathered "a god" which can either be Jesus, angels and Man, just name your pick or is Adam not God's son, just as the Angels are called God's son and Jesus was called the son of the Most high?



What does it mean to be an Angel or What does the word "Angel" mean?

Do you see that your God was quote as talking to himself?

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Judges 13:21,22 " The angel of the Lord appeared no more to Manoah and to his wife, Then Manoah KNEW that he was the ANGEL OF THE LORD and Manoah said to his wife, We shall surely die for WE HAVE SEEN God" PS: Note the capital letter 'G' as found in your bible.

Hosea 12:4 -Jacob struggle with an Angel who is also called God more than one times in the bible.

How about that.

nutarious:


lol, what a statement..............................u want to understand God"s complexity?


have u understand urs?


1= what happens to u literally when u sleep and still find urself active in dreams?

2= so u dont talk to ur self? u dont reason within u? yet u seems to wannna how the complex God is, he wasnt created, how he existed is still a mystery to angels not to talk of Man

3= have u ever operated in the spiritual? how do witches leave their body yet are active in their meetings? do u understand yet u wannna understand God complexity

4= Look at the bible and how it was organised, centuries after centuries, can u comprehend that.......................

5= Pls read God responce to job in JOB 38-42, many things God said there were immortal, gods. and he God boast to job about them..............pls read and u will find -----its the only place i found names of many gods we dont know and who has existed before us....................................see BABA is too complex to Reseacrh, even LUCIFER AS CLOSE AS HE WAS NEVER UNDERSTOOD.

6=lets create man in our image===who was he talking to? Angels? we are not in the form of Angels for Angels dont have body nor souls...............................we are a similar and imperfect copy of ELOHIM.


7= lastly, i erred in this dept tooo, no man can get to the father except thru the son...............says the bible, so any worship of GOD without JESUS will mean no HOLY SPIRIT and that soul will never connect to the father...............

david prayed in psalm prayed about Holy spirit.................yet Judaism never preached or teach on holy spirit, it strange to thyem. but here is david saying lord dont take the holy spirit from me........................no other secret, David the patrich knew more by his fellowship

few has the holy spirit in the old testamnt , very few..................................we can all now connect with holy spirit thru JESUS and thru no other source thats why he promised that he will send down THE holy spirit, a god cant promise to send out the spirit of GOD.



HAVE I BEEN LONG WITH U THAT U STILL ASK WHERE IS THE FATHER................................

HE WAS IN THE WORLD,THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM AND THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT====John 1-11{Genesis 1-1=in the begining God created heaven and Earth}


nobody is holy or worhty, we are all sinners accepted by adoption as son thru the blood of Jesus= romans 8-15



shalom

RikoduoSennin:


@ Bold Section, Please address me and not the JW organisation as a whole. Discuss with me not picking fights with JW organisation.

Can you please spot the difference between this two Statement:

P1: There is a different between "The Almighty God" and "The Mighty God".

P2: There is a difference between "Almighty God" and "Mighty God"

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HINTS:

H1: Focus on the Individuals wielding the Titles

H2: Focus on the Title itself.

RikoduoSennin:


Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job. He split himself into two or more beings/persons for what? To confuse people? Could he not have done everything by his lonesome self?

Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.

Jehovah Fathered "a god" which can either be Jesus, angels and Man, just name your pick or is Adam not God's son, just as the Angels are called God's son and Jesus was called the son of the Most high?

What does it mean to be an Angel or What does the word "Angel" mean?

Do you see that your God was quote as talking to himself?

Judges 13:21,22 " The angel of the Lord appeared no more to Manoah and to his wife, Then Manoah KNEW that he was the ANGEL OF THE LORD and Manoah said to his wife, We shall surely die for WE HAVE SEEN God" PS: Note the capital letter 'G' as found in your bible.

Hosea 12:4 -Jacob struggle with an Angel who is also called God more than one times in the bible.

How about that.

RikoduoSennin:


Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job. He split himself into two or more beings/persons for what? To confuse people? Could he not have done everything by his lonesome self?

johnw74:


There is only One True God now, it has always been
My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word.

nutarious:





he answered you with 3 mighty GOD and 8 almighty scripture from the old testament................................the Jews dont know JESUS...............

so my point = both mighty God and AMIGHTY were addressesd to the same GOD...............................................

nutarious:

i do undertsand you, now i said self denials because this explanation is basic.............................

scroll back up..................... old testament was wriiten in hebrew and aramaic and the Patrichs know only one God......................and he was addres with the two names, now u are opining that the words make it dift persons and that would only mean there is TWO Gods ..................NOTE I SAID TWO GODS....................been worship by the early partrich, you and i know there werent two GODS but only 1 God in old testament .......................................

RikoduoSennin:


Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.

nutarious:


lol, what a statement..............................u want to understand God"s complexity?


have u understand urs?


1= what happens to u literally when u sleep and still find urself active in dreams?

2= so u dont talk to ur self? u dont reason within u? yet u seems to wannna how the complex God is, he wasnt created, how he existed is still a mystery to angels not to talk of Man

3= have u ever operated in the spiritual? how do witches leave their body yet are active in their meetings? do u understand yet u wannna understand God complexity

4= Look at the bible and how it was organised, centuries after centuries, can u comprehend that.......................

5= Pls read God responce to job in JOB 38-42, many things God said there were immortal, gods. and he God boast to job about them..............pls read and u will find -----its the only place i found names of many gods we dont know and who has existed before us....................................see BABA is too complex to Reseacrh, even LUCIFER AS CLOSE AS HE WAS NEVER UNDERSTOOD.

6=lets create man in our image===who was he talking to? Angels? we are not in the form of Angels for Angels dont have body nor souls...............................we are a similar and imperfect copy of ELOHIM.


7= lastly, i erred in this dept tooo, no man can get to the father except thru the son...............says the bible, so any worship of GOD without JESUS will mean no HOLY SPIRIT and that soul will never connect to the father...............

david prayed in psalm prayed about Holy spirit.................yet Judaism never preached or teach on holy spirit, it strange to thyem. but here is david saying lord dont take the holy spirit from me........................no other secret, David the patrich knew more by his fellowship

few has the holy spirit in the old testamnt , very few..................................we can all now connect with holy spirit thru JESUS and thru no other source thats why he promised that he will send down THE holy spirit, a god cant promise to send out the spirit of GOD.



HAVE I BEEN LONG WITH U THAT U STILL ASK WHERE IS THE FATHER................................

HE WAS IN THE WORLD,THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM AND THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT====John 1-11{Genesis 1-1=in the begining God created heaven and Earth}


nobody is holy or worhty, we are all sinners accepted by adoption as son thru the blood of Jesus= romans 8-15



shalom

RikoduoSennin:




Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.

RikoduoSennin:


If you don't understand your God because he is complex, well that is you.

Because I understand my God because he isn't complex plus he wants me to know him too.

Jesus said " You worship what you do not know, WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW".

johnw74:


Father and Son are two persons, One God.
God is not confused.

johnw74:

Then according to your belief Jehovah Himself would have to be "a god" an angel
God Jehovah Fathered God Jesus Christ, and He called Him God.
God created man, angels, Adam, and He beget-Fathered Jesus, if you can see the huge diffrence.
My dad is Human so I am human,
Jehovah is True God so Son is True God.

johnw74:

I know that is one of the scriptures you don't believe.
God never talked to Himself, but He does speak with another person of the Godhead though.

johnw74:

The Angel of the Lord represents the Lord, talking as if He is the Lord.
Read the Revelation to John.

RikoduoSennin:


If you don't understand your God because he is complex, well that is you.

Because I understand my God because he isn't complex plus he wants me to know him too.

Jesus said " You worship what you do not know, WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW".

RikoduoSennin:



Wrong, God Fathered Adam, is Adam a true God too? Who Fathered the Angels too?

You said God talked to another person of the Godhead, So in otherwords, God talked to another 'God' of the Godhead ( because the other person is God also and the address the one initiating the talk as God)

Interesting, I notice how you replace "God" with "The Lord" to reduce the effect.

johnw74:




I didn't think even a jw would blaspheme God like that, the One True God, mighty, Almighty God, Jehovah and Jesus, God and the Word, must be a nut job.

I have taken your blasphemy to God.


See the spirits whether they be from God or from the devil.

RikoduoSennin:


If you don't understand your God because he is complex, well that is you.

Because I understand my God because he isn't complex plus he wants me to know him too.

Jesus said " You worship what you do not know, WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW".

RikoduoSennin:


That is it, He answered a question I did not ask. I did not say - YHWH was not called A Mighty God, did I? My question was more like, There is a reason why Jesus was not called "Almighty God" because he is not.

The Jews did not Know Jesus? Are you kidding me? So Jesus twelve apostles, his other disciples and some members of the first century christians were not JEWS? Or Are you saying that the Pharisees and
Saducees don't that that Isaiah 9:6 refers to the Messiah and Not the God they worship.

Do you even know that the God the Jews worship is different from Jesus and the Jews who knew Jesus identity knew that?

johnw74:



jw say that God confused Stephen.

johnw74:


The Bible shows instances of God and the Word talking,
jw say He spoke to himself often, He must be confused.

johnw74:


Jesus obviously was not talking to His followers - Christians,
but applies to the various sects and other unbelievers,
and specifically on that occasion the woman at the well mm while she was an unbeliever.

RikoduoSennin:


Re-Read My post and see which God I was addressing.

Note: You and I don't have the same God. While your God is a triune being mine is Just one- Jehovah the Father of Jesus.

"We worship what we know remember", You worship what you know and I worship what I know.

johnw74:


jw doesn't believe the Bible:

Joh_1:14 And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and of truth.
1Jn_4:9 In this the love of God was revealed in us, because God sent His only begotten Son into the world that we might live through Him.

johnw74:

God is one God, it's you who said He talked to another god,
it's must be hard for jw to be truthful.

johnw74:

You noticed nothing, the Lord is God.



I'm not interisted in explaining Truth to you anymore since you blasphemed God.
But I may from time to time show up some of your wrongs.

bingbagbo:
Acts 16:30-35

30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.” 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. 33 At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized. 34 The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; he was filled with joy because he had come to believe in God—he and his whole household.

35 When it was daylight, the magistrates sent their officers to the jailer with the order: “Release those men.”


JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY