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I was against Israel mounting a land invasion, but having started, Israel should have pursued it to its logical conclusion. Instead, they have ended the campaign prematurely.

I hope Bibi Netanyahu gives the Livni/Barak coalition a thorough trashing in the upcoming elections.

anengiyefa:

@davidylan, with Hamas on the left and Israel on the right, it seems you're hard-right. I'm more right-of-centre. I concur with Prof Hussein's view. He has not put all the blame on Isreal, but he has refused to absolve her of all responsibility. It's true, Zionism too can be extremist in its view and methods. All in all, the much desired moderation is in short supply. It is hoped that the Obama administration will infuse new hope for settlement sometime soon. As for Hamas, those are beyond help.

Negro_Ntns:

Let's admit it, this conflict is being exploited for economic and political advantage by powers remotely distant from the battle field. Do you all remember Paul Wolfowitz? As long as Israel and Palestine. . . well, no, I shouldn't say that! I think enough is said here already, I will leave the rest for some other person to reveal.

Negro_Ntns:

David,

Stop reading news for its face value. Go behind the print and query the intent. I am not saying all news have some agenda behind them but when you are talking about Mid East politics you better believe it somebody had already rehearsed and proof read what is printed to make sure that nothing is given away that could come back as liability.

I don't owe you explanation. You owe yourself an understanding.

davidylan:

What are the economic advantages of prolonging the conflict? Oya negro tell us.

Negro_Ntns:
David,Stop reading news for its face value.  Go behind the print and query the intent.  I am not saying all news have some agenda behind them but when you are talking about Mid East politics you better believe it somebody had already rehearsed and proof read what is printed to make sure that nothing is given away that could come back as liability. 

I don't owe you explanation.  You owe yourself an understanding.  Have you noticed how frequent you shoot verbal assaults at other people David?  That is the brain of someone who feels intimidated by another and under the instinct of the disadvantage resorts to attack rather than engaging the person at par.  You lack knowledge and so you substitute your laxity,  which inadvertently puts you at a disadvantage and gives you an inferiority complex, with verbal assaults to convince yourself that you can match the intimidating opponent.

Promise not to use verbal assault to register your point again David. 

Negro_Ntns:

Have you noticed how frequent you shoot verbal assaults at other people David? That is the brain of someone who feels intimidated by another and under the instinct of the disadvantage resorts to attack rather than engaging the person at par. You lack knowledge and so you substitute your laxity, which inadvertently puts you at a disadvantage and gives you an inferiority complex, with verbal assaults to convince yourself that you can match the intimidating opponent.

Promise not to use verbal assault to register your point again David.

muhsin:

RichyBlack,

As I said in another thread, the truth is right near them. They see it. But they deny, always, that they see it. Isreal in the culprit. World knows.

RichyBlacK:

Well, it's good to see that Negro_Ntns has chipped in on this issue, and as usual, those with some level of objectivity will always see through the overt hypocrisy of the Zionists in Tel-Aviv and the toddler-driven policies of the criminals that just left Washington D.C.

anengiyefa:

Yes, Negro joined in, but apart from speaking in parables, he has not told us what he is really trying to say. He never did answer the question put to him by davidylan - How is the confict in Gaza to anyone's economic advantage? People speak high-sounding nonsense without thinking first.

anengiyefa:

@mushin, so what is the meaning of what you just wrote here? Can you please explain to us in plain simple English?

Negro_Ntns:

Have you noticed how frequent you shoot verbal assaults at other people David?  That is the brain of someone who feels intimidated by another and under the instinct of the disadvantage resorts to attack rather than engaging the person at par.  You lack knowledge and so you substitute your laxity,  which inadvertently puts you at a disadvantage and gives you an inferiority complex, with verbal assaults to convince yourself that you can match the intimidating opponent.

Promise not to use verbal assault to register your point again David. 

davidylan:

what a daft statement. What are the economic advantages of prolonging the conflict?

Oya negro tell us.

Negro_Ntns:

Argent,

If individually and internally within yourself you fail to visualize the existence of advantageous outcomes for Israel and USA in the Arab/Israeli conflict, then my explaining it serve no purpose to your understanding. My suggestion to you is to study and understand the preliminaries and the objectives. I will give you hint. Israel has been very strategic and stepped beyond biblical history in its acquisition of territorial controls. With the exception of stupid minds, competent people acquire territorial lands for gains - economic and political powers.

Now, you can take it from there and expand your vision on what those powers could entail. You should not need me to do that for you.

I will lay an example for you here. During the Trail of Tears when US government relocated the Indians from South Eastern region of America - Georgia, Florida, Alabam and so on. . .- to Oklahoma; those Indians were first settled in a territory and was designated Indian tribal grounds. Soon afterwards the white government discovered that the land was arable and rich in cultivation. Interests grew among whites to forcibly pack the Indians up once again and relocate them elsewhere. So today, the most productive patches of land in terms of agricultural and mineral resources in the State of Oklahoma is owned by descendants of white settlers who back then in the 1800s saw the promises of the land and thus exploited and drove out the people settled on it. You would not argue against the economic advantage in this story would you? Use the hints and story to expand your horizon and find the economic prospect for Israel in its conflict with the Arabs. As I have said already, I owe no explanation on it. It's an individual responsibility to exercise intellectual participation on this forum.

With the exception of stupid minds, competent people acquire territorial lands for gains - economic and political powers.

Negro_Ntns:

Contemplate on this. Reflect on it, you will need it for years to come. Keep it in a safe spot in your brain and don't loose it.


Your account of what Israel took and returned or promised to return is sheepish! Expand your mind. You are still thinking from a limited view. . .you have an innocent view of what is happening. Step out of your naivete and expand into a new horizon. The horizon of free thinkers who are not afraid to let their imagination roam. Aspire to become a shepherd. Well, in your case you are too far below the ranks you will need first to become a dog.

military reasons not for economical advantage

davidylan:

All the time it takes you to think up this drivel you would have told us what economic advantage Israel dereives from prolonging the Gaza conflict idiot.

When Israel siezed Gaza in 1967 it was purely for military reasons not for economical advantage. Israel already has a far longer access to the mediteranean than Gaza and thus does not need a piece of land it has to economically subsidise.

Get a brain slowpoke.

Negro_Ntns:

You can choose to exercise thoughts from a narrow view or from a broad view, including illustrations of applicable stories to highlight points.

Anen, won't you agree?

anengiyefa:

Rather than receive an answer, all we have got from you is pages and pages of rambling, meaningless prose, relating to matters that are extraneous to what is being discussed. This is a discussion, not a venue for demonstrating literary skills.

Negro_Ntns:

Good Boy!!!

Now you are taking bold steps, thank God. Who lit your light bulb?

Now answer this. . . are there economic or political outcomes for military actions? Yes or no.