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Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:15pm On Mar 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
This is all you need http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Text/


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If part of Quran was really lost and Quran ain't complete... How come quran is still flawless...

Some dumbfool go just sit somehow dey twist and use fake hadit to work conspiracy..

Na so dem conjure say Allah na moon Godq
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by Misogynist2014(m): 8:22pm On Mar 29, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



Visit letmeturnthetables.com



If part of Quran was really lost and Quran ain't complete... How come quran is still flawless...

Some dumbfool go just sit somehow dey twist and use fake hadit to work conspiracy..

Na so dem conjure say Allah na moon Godq
You so funny. Did you bother reading the link of links? Flawless! Don't make me laugh. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Preservation_of_the_Qur'an Read this link and you'll melt. grin
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by Misogynist2014(m): 8:26pm On Mar 29, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



Visit letmeturnthetables.com



If part of Quran was really lost and Quran ain't complete... How come quran is still flawless...

Some dumbfool go just sit somehow dey twist and use fake hadit to work conspiracy..

Na so dem conjure say Allah na moon Godq
Another link http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 6:49am On Mar 30, 2015
Misogynist2014:
You so funny. Did you bother reading the link of links? Flawless! Don't make me laugh. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Preservation_of_the_Qur'an Read this link and you'll melt. grin


Each and every of your conspiracy theory concerning Quran.. Is debunked in letmeturnthetables.com



Besides, let's think of it, if Quran is truly not complete, would Quran still held it's head up high among holy books
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 7:13am On Mar 30, 2015
Misogynist2014:
You so funny. Did you bother reading the link of links? Flawless! Don't make me laugh. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Preservation_of_the_Qur'an Read this link and you'll melt. grin



Laughing in hulk style... Like i knew.. Av visited the site.. And all they used to support their claims is hadith...... Like i told you before... Only reasonable hadith are allowed... How can you accept hadith that contradict itself.. Do you even know what hadith means? It saying of prophet reported by people... Like i told you before, i also know hadith that are so funny and dumb when i read it... Like its said, accept only reasonable hadith...


If Quran isn't really complete, we would know and many people will know because there will be contradicting words and chapters.. Unlike Bible, it's so glaring that it's a piece of shit.. Even the real verses that is in the fake Bible is credited by Quran verses..


Bring on another conspiracy theory.. Am waiting
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by Misogynist2014(m): 7:55am On Mar 30, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:




Laughing in hulk style... Like i knew.. Av visited the site.. And all they used to support their claims is hadith...... Like i told you before... Only reasonable hadith are allowed... How can you accept hadith that contradict itself.. Do you even know what hadith means? It saying of prophet reported by people... Like i told you before, i also know hadith that are so funny and dumb when i read it... Like its said, accept only reasonable hadith...


If Quran isn't really complete, we would know and many people will know because there will be contradicting words and chapters.. Unlike Bible, it's so glaring that it's a piece of shit.. Even the real verses that is in the fake Bible is credited by Quran verses..


Bring on another conspiracy theory.. Am waiting
Seen your comments and won't be good to neglect, this is from Quran only, what are you saying about it?

The Quran, much like the Holy Bible, uses plural pronouns for God even more so than
what we find in God’s true Word. Here are several examples:
This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O
Apostle!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as
to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them
when they disputed (the point). S. 3:44 Y. Ali
And no soul can die except by ALLAH's leave, - a decree with a fixed term. And
whoever desires the reward of the present world, WE will give him thereof; and
whoever desires the reward of the Hereafter, WE will give him thereof; and WE will
surely reward the grateful. S. 3:145 Shakir
Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to
the remote mosque of which We have blessed the precincts, so that We may show to
HIM some of Our signs; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing. S. 17:1 Shakir
Note the confusion of this last text. If you take that sentence seriously, then there are at
least four persons involved here. Person A to whom glory is given, person B is the
servant of person A, and persons C and D (or more) who are the subject and the
speakers of this whole sentence. Actually, who is "him"? … so that WE show to HIM
some of … surely HE is the … seeing. Doesn’t the structure suggest that the HIM and the
HE should be the same?
Whatever the case maybe, this point is clear. The Quran does use plural pronouns for
Allah.
Some Muslims claim that the plural pronouns are used in a majestic sense, that these
reflect the use of the royal plural denoting the splendor and grandeur of Allah. But as the
late, great Christian scholar and evangelist to the Muslims St. Clair W. Tisdall wrote in
the following argument which he put in dialogue form between a Muslim ( M ) and a
Christian ( C):
139. M. There is nothing in the Qur'an to support the doctrine of the Trinity.
C. We accept it on the authority of the Bible alone. Yet there are two facts in the
Qur'an which cannot be properly explained or understood except by accepting the
doctrine. The first is, that God is spoken of as One, He is called God ( ﺍﻟﻠﻪ Allah), Lord
( ﺍﻟﺮﺏ Ar Rabb) in the singular, and addressed as Thou. The other is, that He is
represented as speaking of Himself in the plural as We, Us. Examples are found in
almost every Surah: for example, in Surah XCVI., Al 'Alaq, supposed to be the first
Surah revealed to Muhammad, God is called "the Lord" (v. cool, and "God" (v. 13) in the
singular, and yet in v. 17, He says, "We too will summon the guards of hell," using the
plural. Does not this imply the existence of some kind of plurality, other than that of
attributes, in the Divine Unity?
140. M. Certainly not. The "We" is used, as kings use the word, to imply majesty.
C. On what authority do you say this so positively? If the Qur'an is from God, nothing
in it can be unmeaning. Whatever God says is true: and this expression, so often
repeated in the Qur'an, may contain deep teaching. We observe that, in the use of the
plural, the Qur'an agrees with the Bible, since we find, for instance, in Gen. i. 26; iii.
22; xi. 7, the very same expression used. Those parts of the Bible which teach the
doctrine of the Trinity in Unity may possibly explain the reason of this, as far as the
Bible is concerned. If the Qur'an was revealed to confirm the Torah and the Injil,
perhaps this is one of the points in which it does so.
141. M. The Jews explain these passages by saying that God was addressing the
angels.
C. That is because the Jews reject the Gospel, which the Qur'an "confirms." But
whether their explanation be right or wrong, will it explain the use of the plural in the
Qur'an?
142. M. No, it will not: but the doctrine of the Trinity is contrary to the Qur'an.
(Tisdall , A Manual of the Leading Muhammadan Objections to Christianity [Society for
Promoting Christian Knowledge, London, 1904], Chapter V, "Objections Against Certain
Leading Christian Doctrines (continued)", pp. 153-154; source)
Besides, the royal plural doesn’t at all help the Muslim cause since it actually implies
that Allah was addressing his royal court, his heavenly council. The online encyclopedia,
Wikipedia, writes in regard to the purpose and function of the royal plural:
Pluralis majestatis ("majestic plural"wink is the plural pronoun where it is used to refer
to one person alone. This is also known as the " royal we " or the "Victorian we "
because it has usually been restricted to august personages such as monarchs,
bishops, Popes, and university rectors. The reason behind the pluralis majestatis is
the idea that a monarch or other high official ALWAYS SPEAKS FOR HIS OR HER
PEOPLE .
Examples of purported instances:
We are not amused. Queen Victoria (in at least one account of this quotation,
though, she was not speaking for herself alone, BUT FOR THE LADIES OF THE
COURT.)
We are a grandmother. Margaret Thatcher announcing the birth of Mark
Thatcher’s son Michael in 1990.
It is to be distinguished from pluralis modestiae, also pluralis auctoris (inclusion of
readers or listeners). For instance:
Let's calculate! Leibniz
We are thus led also to a definition of "time" in physics. Albert Einstein
It was said that United States Navy Admiral Hyman G. Rickover told a subordinate
that used the royal we: "Three groups are permitted that usage: pregnant women,
royalty, and schizophrenics. Which one are you?"
There is no such thing as the "Papal we". The pope may use the "Royal we". ( Source;
underline and capital emphasis ours)
And regarding the use of "we" this same source states:
The royal we (Pluralis Majestatis) is the first-person plural pronoun when used by an
important personage to refer to himself or herself. Its best known usage is by a
monarch such as a king, queen, or pope. It is also used in certain formal contexts by
bishops and university rectors.
In the public situations in which it is used, the monarch or other dignitary is typically
speaking, NOT IN HIS OWN PROPER PERSON, BUT AS LEADER OF A NATION OR
INSTITUTION. Nevertheless, the habit of referring to leaders in the plural has
influenced the grammar of several languages, in which plural forms tend to be
perceived as deferential and more polite than singular forms. This grammatical
feature is called a T-V distinction.
Popes used the we as part of their formal speech up until recent times. John Paul I
was the first to dispense with this practice, instead using the singular I. John Paul II
continued to use the singular.
The editorial we is a similar phenomenon, in which editorial columnists in
newspapers and similar commentators in other media refer to themselves as we
when giving their opinions. Here, the writer has once more cast himself or herself in
the role of spokesman: either FOR THE MEDIA INSTITUTION who employs him, or
more generally ON BEHALF OF THE PARTY OR BODY OF CITIZENS who agree with the
commentary . (Source; underline and capital emphasis ours)
Thus, appealing to the royal plural in order to account for the Quran’s use of plural
pronouns only proves that Allah is speaking on behalf of other divine or heavenly beings.
In fact, the Quran itself and early Muslim references provide evidence that the plural
pronouns do indeed refer to a group, either because Allah himself is a plural entity or
because there are several others associated with Allah in his works. For instance, this
Muslim source actually thinks it is refuting Trinitarians when it makes the following
assertion:
Some Christians – because of their ignorance – think that the plural pronoun which
is used to show respect in verses such as "Verily, We have given you (O Muhammad)
a manifest victory" [al-Fath 48:1] and "Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic
Qur’aan…" [Yoosuf 12:2] is proof of their false belief in trinity. Read more here..... http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_plurality.htm
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:58am On Mar 30, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Seen your comments and won't be good to neglect, this is from Quran only, what are you saying about it?

The Quran, much like the Holy Bible, uses plural pronouns for God even more so than
what we find in God’s true Word. Here are several examples:
This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O
Apostle!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as
to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them
when they disputed (the point). S. 3:44 Y. Ali
And no soul can die except by ALLAH's leave, - a decree with a fixed term. And
whoever desires the reward of the present world, WE will give him thereof; and
whoever desires the reward of the Hereafter, WE will give him thereof; and WE will
surely reward the grateful. S. 3:145 Shakir
Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to
the remote mosque of which We have blessed the precincts, so that We may show to
HIM some of Our signs; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing. S. 17:1 Shakir
Note the confusion of this last text. If you take that sentence seriously, then there are at
least four persons involved here. Person A to whom glory is given, person B is the
servant of person A, and persons C and D (or more) who are the subject and the
speakers of this whole sentence. Actually, who is "him"? … so that WE show to HIM
some of … surely HE is the … seeing. Doesn’t the structure suggest that the HIM and the
HE should be the same?
Whatever the case maybe, this point is clear. The Quran does use plural pronouns for
Allah.
Some Muslims claim that the plural pronouns are used in a majestic sense, that these
reflect the use of the royal plural denoting the splendor and grandeur of Allah. But as the
late, great Christian scholar and evangelist to the Muslims St. Clair W. Tisdall wrote in
the following argument which he put in dialogue form between a Muslim ( M ) and a
Christian ( C):
139. M. There is nothing in the Qur'an to support the doctrine of the Trinity.
C. We accept it on the authority of the Bible alone. Yet there are two facts in the
Qur'an which cannot be properly explained or understood except by accepting the
doctrine. The first is, that God is spoken of as One, He is called God ( ﺍﻟﻠﻪ Allah), Lord
( ﺍﻟﺮﺏ Ar Rabb) in the singular, and addressed as Thou. The other is, that He is
represented as speaking of Himself in the plural as We, Us. Examples are found in
almost every Surah: for example, in Surah XCVI., Al 'Alaq, supposed to be the first
Surah revealed to Muhammad, God is called "the Lord" (v. cool, and "God" (v. 13) in the
singular, and yet in v. 17, He says, "We too will summon the guards of hell," using the
plural. Does not this imply the existence of some kind of plurality, other than that of
attributes, in the Divine Unity?
140. M. Certainly not. The "We" is used, as kings use the word, to imply majesty.
C. On what authority do you say this so positively? If the Qur'an is from God, nothing
in it can be unmeaning. Whatever God says is true: and this expression, so often
repeated in the Qur'an, may contain deep teaching. We observe that, in the use of the
plural, the Qur'an agrees with the Bible, since we find, for instance, in Gen. i. 26; iii.
22; xi. 7, the very same expression used. Those parts of the Bible which teach the
doctrine of the Trinity in Unity may possibly explain the reason of this, as far as the
Bible is concerned. If the Qur'an was revealed to confirm the Torah and the Injil,
perhaps this is one of the points in which it does so.
141. M. The Jews explain these passages by saying that God was addressing the
angels.
C. That is because the Jews reject the Gospel, which the Qur'an "confirms." But
whether their explanation be right or wrong, will it explain the use of the plural in the
Qur'an?
142. M. No, it will not: but the doctrine of the Trinity is contrary to the Qur'an.
(Tisdall , A Manual of the Leading Muhammadan Objections to Christianity [Society for
Promoting Christian Knowledge, London, 1904], Chapter V, "Objections Against Certain
Leading Christian Doctrines (continued)", pp. 153-154; source)
Besides, the royal plural doesn’t at all help the Muslim cause since it actually implies
that Allah was addressing his royal court, his heavenly council. The online encyclopedia,
Wikipedia, writes in regard to the purpose and function of the royal plural:
Pluralis majestatis ("majestic plural"wink is the plural pronoun where it is used to refer
to one person alone. This is also known as the " royal we " or the "Victorian we "
because it has usually been restricted to august personages such as monarchs,
bishops, Popes, and university rectors. The reason behind the pluralis majestatis is
the idea that a monarch or other high official ALWAYS SPEAKS FOR HIS OR HER
PEOPLE .
Examples of purported instances:
We are not amused. Queen Victoria (in at least one account of this quotation,
though, she was not speaking for herself alone, BUT FOR THE LADIES OF THE
COURT.)
We are a grandmother. Margaret Thatcher announcing the birth of Mark
Thatcher’s son Michael in 1990.
It is to be distinguished from pluralis modestiae, also pluralis auctoris (inclusion of
readers or listeners). For instance:
Let's calculate! Leibniz
We are thus led also to a definition of "time" in physics. Albert Einstein
It was said that United States Navy Admiral Hyman G. Rickover told a subordinate
that used the royal we: "Three groups are permitted that usage: pregnant women,
royalty, and schizophrenics. Which one are you?"
There is no such thing as the "Papal we". The pope may use the "Royal we". ( Source;
underline and capital emphasis ours)
And regarding the use of "we" this same source states:
The royal we (Pluralis Majestatis) is the first-person plural pronoun when used by an
important personage to refer to himself or herself. Its best known usage is by a
monarch such as a king, queen, or pope. It is also used in certain formal contexts by
bishops and university rectors.
In the public situations in which it is used, the monarch or other dignitary is typically
speaking, NOT IN HIS OWN PROPER PERSON, BUT AS LEADER OF A NATION OR
INSTITUTION. Nevertheless, the habit of referring to leaders in the plural has
influenced the grammar of several languages, in which plural forms tend to be
perceived as deferential and more polite than singular forms. This grammatical
feature is called a T-V distinction.
Popes used the we as part of their formal speech up until recent times. John Paul I
was the first to dispense with this practice, instead using the singular I. John Paul II
continued to use the singular.
The editorial we is a similar phenomenon, in which editorial columnists in
newspapers and similar commentators in other media refer to themselves as we
when giving their opinions. Here, the writer has once more cast himself or herself in
the role of spokesman: either FOR THE MEDIA INSTITUTION who employs him, or
more generally ON BEHALF OF THE PARTY OR BODY OF CITIZENS who agree with the
commentary . (Source; underline and capital emphasis ours)
Thus, appealing to the royal plural in order to account for the Quran’s use of plural
pronouns only proves that Allah is speaking on behalf of other divine or heavenly beings.
In fact, the Quran itself and early Muslim references provide evidence that the plural
pronouns do indeed refer to a group, either because Allah himself is a plural entity or
because there are several others associated with Allah in his works. For instance, this
Muslim source actually thinks it is refuting Trinitarians when it makes the following
assertion:
Some Christians – because of their ignorance – think that the plural pronoun which
is used to show respect in verses such as "Verily, We have given you (O Muhammad)
a manifest victory" [al-Fath 48:1] and "Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic
Qur’aan…" [Yoosuf 12:2] is proof of their false belief in trinity. Read more here..... http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_plurality.htm



God is so perfect... Because of people like you that can't understand holy book without misinterpreting it... God talked about Trinity in Quran.. Go read what God said about Trinity in Quran.

Besides, son of God doesn't also mean biological son of God.. Means servant of God.. It's Hebrew way of saying servant of God but people misunderstood it despite God saying HE doesn't have son.

God disapproved Trinity... AND you saying God do use WE.. That WE simply means display of power...


It's even in yoruba language.. When you knock someone door and ask who is it.. People don't do say its me ( emi ni) , most do say ( awa ni) don't forget it's one person.. And the use of us in this context means... It's me who you know very well.. That's what that (awa ni) stands for in that sentence...


If that WE used by God means He's 3 in 1... He won't disapprove Trinity.. Besides all HIS messanger won't have preached ONE GOD
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by Nicklaus(m): 12:22pm On Mar 30, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



Yeah you correct. That US in context doesn't mean more than one. ... Its an ascertion of power..

Maa go copy and paste to let you see Trinity isn't from God

https://shahydcharming./2015/03/17/trinity-in-bible/
Now this above has contradicted your acclaimed intention for enlightenment. You have just made an assertion of sth you claim not to understand instead of being curious which leaves me to believe you aren't after the truth after all. You only want to argue. Sorry I'm I won't give u the satisfaction bye...
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 2:27pm On Mar 30, 2015
Nicklaus:
Now this above has contradicted your acclaimed intention for enlightenment. You have just made an assertion of sth you claim not to understand instead of being curious which leaves me to believe you aren't after the truth after all. You only want to argue. Sorry I'm I won't give u the satisfaction bye...


May God have mercy on you
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by Nicklaus(m): 2:55pm On Mar 30, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



May God have mercy on you
for the sake of HIS sorrowful passion, Amen Amen.
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by malvisguy212: 4:32pm On Mar 30, 2015
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 7:41pm On Mar 31, 2015
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by malvisguy212: 8:34pm On Mar 31, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



Go read gospel of Barnabas
do you believe in The gospel of barnabas?
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 9:16pm On Mar 31, 2015
malvisguy212:
do you believe in The gospel of barnabas?



Why won't i believe in what person that introduced Paul to apostle wrote? Why wasn't Barnabas Bible.. Just go read it... I wish God use it to help you
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by malvisguy212: 10:50pm On Mar 31, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:




Why won't i believe in what person that introduced Paul to apostle wrote? Why wasn't Barnabas Bible.. Just go read it... I wish God use it to help you
interlingent and Well Versed muslim Know The implication of believing in barnabas gospel . Barnabas deny Jesus is The messiah and The quran agree Jesus is The messiah. according to "Barnabas" (3), Mary brought forth her son without pain This is contradicted by the Quran (19:23).
the Quran approves of poligamy "Barnabas" does not tolerat it . I Can Go On and On
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 11:57pm On Mar 31, 2015
malvisguy212:
interlingent and Well Versed muslim Know The implication of believing in barnabas gospel . Barnabas deny Jesus is The messiah and The quran agree Jesus is The messiah. according to "Barnabas" (3), Mary brought forth her son without pain This is contradicted by the Quran (19:23).
the Quran approves of poligamy "Barnabas" does not tolerat it . I Can Go On and On


Quran is from God.. Barnabas wrote what he heard.. There's no contradiction.. No misunderstanding.. Just slight differences.. You can't expect to write what i sent to you exactly the way i wrote it... Anyway.. Read it and see who Jesus really is and Trinity and Jesus as son of God.. Go read and see how Paul misled people
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by malvisguy212: 7:02am On Apr 01, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



Quran is from God.. Barnabas wrote what he heard.. There's no contradiction.. No misunderstanding.. Just slight differences.. You can't expect to write what i sent to you exactly the way i wrote it... Anyway.. Read it and see who Jesus really is and Trinity and Jesus as son of God.. Go read and see how Paul misled people
who command barnabas To wrote The Word of God? Is he a Prophet? Do you believe Jesus is The messaih?

Baranbas deny Jesus As The messaih But The First word in his gospel read;

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the
Nazarene, called Christ ...

the Bible, "Barnabas" does not know
that Messiah (Hebrew) and Christ (Greek) are identical in meaning.?this man is Not The barnabas in The bible.

I will Not reply you anymore because you Are Not a Well versed muslim in The quran, even your muslims Brothers will be ashamed of you.if you realy Know your quran,you will Not believe in "barnabas gospel"
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 7:05am On Apr 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
who command barnabas To wrote The Word of God? Is he a Prophet? Do you believe Jesus is The messaih?

Baranbas deny Jesus As The messaih But The First word in his gospel read;

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the
Nazarene, called Christ ...

the Bible, "Barnabas" does not know
that Messiah (Hebrew) and Christ (Greek) are identical in meaning.?this man is Not The barnabas in The bible.

I will Not reply you anymore because you Are Not a Well versed muslim in The quran, even your muslims Brothers will be ashamed of you.if you realy Know your quran,you will Not believe in "barnabas gospel"

Laughing... You never read the gospel you saying sorts... He accepted Jesus as Prophet of God. Prophet and messiah is same thing.. Like i said.. Go read it


The same reason that Barnabas wrote his gospel is the same reason Mark paul and others wrote theirs... Even though it's Paul that wrote half of new testament

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Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by malvisguy212: 7:54am On Apr 01, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:


Laughing... You never read the gospel you saying sorts... He accepted Jesus as Prophet of God. Prophet and messiah is same thing.. Like i said.. Go read it


The same reason that Barnabas wrote his gospel is the same reason Mark paul and others wrote theirs... Even though it's Paul that wrote half of new testament
you Are ignorance,you don't know the implications of the gospel of baranbas done in your faith as a muslim. Bye
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 9:30am On Apr 01, 2015
Fools believe there's no God
Idiots believe God is Trinity
Stupidity is when you say God has a Son
Dumbassness is believing in an idol



All people with this kind beliefs will suffer in grave and heaven...


No b talk am, na God, also his prophets..
Re: Open Matured Discussion Among Religions by shahydbinaliyu(m): 9:39am On Apr 01, 2015
Do you Christian knows that the way muslims do pray is exactly real Christian do pray?

Do you even know about your Bible Like I do??

Most of you are just church goers

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