PastorKun:


This simple question has been repeated several times on this forum over the last five years yet not once as any cec cultist attempted to answer the question, they always evade it only to come back later to claim their cult leader has a PHD.

WinsomeX:
As you work on that please tell us where Pastor Chris got his PHD from. Year, etc.
When and how he became a Prof.

PastorKun:
This simple question has been repeated several times on this forum over the last five years yet not once as any cec cultist attempted to answer the question, they always evade it only to come back later to claim their cult leader has a PHD.

WinsomeX:
lol

I'm hearing it for the first time. And the question seem to be so difficult to answer.

PastorKun:


You are free to come and take my life if and when you "prove" your delirious hallucinations.

WinsomeX:
@Sammied

Thanks for your response.

If you had read my introduction, you may have noticed my reluctance to label CE a cult but how I eventually had to come to such conclusion because of the weight of evidence before me.

I do not call CE a cult bc they do something wrong. I call them a cult bc of what they teach. The manner with which they idolize Chris and so on is simply an extension of this. CE teaches WoF. With an extension into Gnostic heresies. All these combined with Chris who is now their god and the sin in the camp clearly show them to be a cult. Reading the history of other cult organizations that call themselves Christian has also been an eye opener.

I build as wise Master builder. What I do for the Lord, only eternity can tell. As long as you measure building by the amount of followershio a man commands, his church building, his technologies, etc, you will not see as God sees.

I'm glad you know the author of that piece. He is a truly great man whom eternity alone will reveal how much he has done for the body of Christ.

Read Jeremiah 1, God told him to do six things: the first four where negative, tear down. only the last two positive: build. This is the way the Lord wishes to express himself through me. The tearing down will help a lot of folks. And if you read well, I offer a lot of building doctrines too.

Cheers.

Gombs:


Have ye the truth? if 'Yes', what have you done with it?

Jesus will ask you this someday.

MuttleyLaff:

Maybe when ice starts to form in hell, an answer the question might surface from them
As it is at the moment, the" no answer to the question" situation is unlikely to change now or in the foreseeable future
because non of them have the chutzpah to ask to him to his face about it
Ah, hin don tay wey yansh don dey for back nahin that hin be for that matter

WinsomeX:
Sammied

I know what I'm building. God also knows. I don't need to advertise it on the internet. However, if what you build is doing more harm to the gospel, I will tear it down.

Now, what's with the Corinthian church? They had some people committing sin. Someone was sleeping with his fathers wife. Then what? Paul celebrated him? Paul rebuked him and when he showed remorse he was restored. Yes, the Corinthians were saints despite their excesses.

When will you understand that there is a world of difference between doctrine and practices. God's people can be saved through sound doctrine and err in practice. like the Corinthians they remain saved.

BUT NO ONE CAN BE SAVED THROUGH WOF AND GNOSTIC HERESIES. NO ONE CAN BE SAVED VIA NEW AGE GOSPELS.

And God will hold you responsible for the blood of those who are damned because they believed a false gospel.

I am saying that there is nothing Oyakhilome preached that can save anyone. If it is his gospel of WoF that his people have believed, they are all heading to hell! Except they have believed the true gospel and even at that, thru must still leave that cult eventually. Light and darkness cannot cohabit.

If that was your last post. Fine. I will still be here.

Goodbye!

This is certainly might be my last post on this thread.

Yes! Eternity will reveal what we do for the Lord. But then... Here on earth, the Lord Jesus said we should let our light shine so much that men may see our GOOD WORKS and glorify our fathers which is in heaven. On that note, we should STOP using the excuse of Eternity to hide our inability to build while good at tearing down.

I didn't use big church, money, etc as references, I use bible examples.
If you're a master builder like Paul, what have you built? Are we waiting till Eternity to know what Paul built?

The question still no one has answer: if you're good at tearing down, what have you built?

We didn't wait till Eternity to see and hear what the men in the Bible built.

You keep ignoring my references to the corinthians church. Absolutely consciously being ignored.

Lastly, it is far more easy to tear down than to build. It's a very common and easy ministry.

Remain Blessed.

WinsomeX:


As you work on that please tell us where Pastor Chris got his PHD from. Year, etc. When and how he became a Prof.

WinsomeX:
Sammied

I know what I'm building. God also knows. I don't need to advertise it on the internet. However, if what you build is doing more harm to the gospel, I will tear it down.

Now, what's with the Corinthian church? They had some people committing sin. Someone was sleeping with his fathers wife. Then what? Paul celebrated him? Paul rebuked him and when he showed remorse he was restored. Yes, the Corinthians were saints despite their excesses.

When will you understand that there is a world of difference between doctrine and practices. God's people can be saved through sound doctrine and err in practice. like the Corinthians they remain saved.

BUT NO ONE CAN BE SAVED THROUGH WOF AND GNOSTIC HERESIES. NO ONE CAN BE SAVED VIA NEW AGE GOSPELS.

And God will hold you responsible for the blood of those who are damned because they believed a false gospel.

I am saying that there is nothing Oyakhilome preached that can save anyone. If it is his gospel of WoF that his people have believed, they are all heading to hell! Except they have believed the true gospel and even at that, thru must still leave that cult eventually. Light and darkness cannot cohabit.

If that was your last post. Fine. I will still be here.

Goodbye!

Typical response from The Bitter One eh? @sammied
As for @WinsomeX we know you, it's your opinion that counts and no one else's. That's why you are an empty drum that makes the loudest noise!

Good morning!

vooks:
Sammied, Winsomex,Gombs,
The fact that tearing down is easier than building don't make building better.
You can apply the same set of arguments to any religion say Islam. Do you know how many lives have been lost, how many man hours have been burnt in crafting Islam and here you are calling it false? Now replace Islam with Mormons.

Every religious system does not materialize from thin air, it arises from convictions and immense resources applied in propagating those convictions all over. Neither the convictions,adherents nor resources make it right.

A question nobody has ever answered me here is, who has what it takes to rebuke Oyaks?

simplex2:
If your post is anything to go by; then mostly all christians are cultist and churches cults.
For catholics, it is the pope and their doctrine.
For Winners it is their daddy, the keeper of the key to gates of hell.
Have you heard of the Lords chosen and their 'God of chosen'?

What you call sin is a human nature and not peculiar to any church. That a member of CE screwed a chorister doesn't mean its a norm in CE; other church members do same and even more.

Not that I buy any of you people's religious hypocrisy anyway; you all are same! Bunch'a hypocrites!

Gombs:


What have you built? What have you done with the message of Jesus?

Forgive me, but the above bold is the dumbest thing I've read in a long while, with the exception of WX's numerous writings. For example, his writing on WoF piano, building etc.

Gombs:


What have you built? What have you done with the message of Jesus?

Forgive me, but the above bold is the dumbest thing I've read in a long while, with the exception of WX's numerous writings. For example, his writing on WoF piano, building etc.

How convenient it is for you both to avoid the ISSUES raised on this thread but rather attack the messenger.

Now you are so intent on knowing what I'm building so you can attack that one too.

The thread will continue here and you can at the least attack that one since it is here for you to see.

Also lest anyone come to play the victim: this thread never began with an attack on Chris;

rather my focus was to analyse his work for which I conclude it is a cult.

If the best defence that Chris' followers can do is to avoid the matters raised and attack me, it is all good and well. It goes with the package of BUILDING a thread like this one.

And the thread will be BUILT.

vooks:
Will it make Winsomex allegations false if I told you what I have done?

Kenny4lyfe:


Lolzzz....
WoF Guitar nko?

vooks:
Sammied, Winsomex,Gombs,
The fact that tearing down is easier than building don't make building better.
You can apply the same set of arguments to any religion say Islam. Do you know how many lives have been lost, how many man hours have been burnt in crafting Islam and here you are calling it false? Now replace Islam with Mormons.

Every religious system does not materialize from thin air, it arises from convictions and immense resources applied in propagating those convictions all over. Neither the convictions,adherents nor resources make it right.

A question nobody has ever answered me here is, who has what it takes to rebuke Oyaks?

Gombs:



Forget it...you've done nothing. If you've, you'd have known better. Like Jo said, you cannot just wake up and call a body if Christians cultist, or brood of vipers just because you do not subscribe to what they teach.


You can't even gather 10 people for a bible study class. You cannot even demonstrate the power of the spirit... You've ne'er healed anyone, nor casted out a demon.

Have you? Yes... I am bragging.

If you've financed the gospel,no wahala... But show me your faith by your works. James 2:18

vooks:
Great rant,
Now refute Winsomex with sense minus emotions

sammied:


Of course your logic is right: but then if you're skilled in the act of tearing down like Winsomex. You must also be equally if not more skilled in the art of building. That's the examples gleaned from God's Word!

When you ask the right questions... Then you'll be ready to receive the right answer.

All most people do is not rebuke it's criticism, very negative criticism, character assault etc. Example is what Winsomex does.

Go and read Paul letters and find out how biblical rebuke is done with love, especially 1st corinthians.

Back to your question anyway.. Let me ask: what's the biblical precedent for rebuking someone?
It's clearly shown in the scriptures(check my previous post for references)

Ricky Joyner could rebuke Todd Bentley when he fell... Why? Because he's a man of impeccable character and we can all see what he's built over the years.

Reinhard Bonke was involved in restoring Benny hinns marriage. In fact he rebuked and I told Benny he must get back to his wife. Today their marriage is fully restored and moving forward. I have plenty more examples. And of course, the works Bonke have done for the Lord, are we waiting till eternity to know at least some of it? These are men of strong character and Godly results.

Certainly, all these e-warriors are not the one to rebuke Pastor Oyakhilome. I have given u examples of men who can.

Stop tearing down if you have nothing you have built. That's what I have studied throughout my own bible and the examples of Godly men. I don't know about you?

God bless!

Gombs:


Oh I have... I have once told you on this thread, that you need glasses.

WinsomeX:
^^^
How convenient it is for you both to avoid the ISSUES raised on this thread but rather attack the messenger. Now you are so intent on knowing what I'm building so you can attack that one too. The thread will continue here and you can at the least attack that one since it is here for you to see.

Also lest anyone come to play the victim: this thread never began with an attack on Chris; rather my focus was to analyse his work for which I conclude it is a cult. If the best defence that Chris' followers can do is to avoid the matters raised and attack me, it is all good and well. It goes with the package of BUILDING a thread like this one.

And the thread will be BUILT.

vooks:
Note this is not sinning or falling into sin, but subscription to false doctrines

sammied:



The corinthians church subscribe to false doctrines. Go and read extensively on it. Was that enough reason for Paul to label the whole body a Cult?

It seems you people don't even know what you're saying self.


https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2012/08/letters-to-the-church-1-corinthians/