sammied:



The corinthians church subscribe to false doctrines. Go and read extensively on it. Was that enough reason for Paul to label the whole body a Cult?

It seems you people don't even know what you're saying self.


https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2012/08/letters-to-the-church-1-corinthians/

vooks:
You know better, share with us a single false doctrine from Corinthians

vooks:
Will it make Winsomex allegations false if I told you what I have done?

sammied:


No... It will not make his allegations false or true. But then it will let us know that you have the right and authority to tear down. Because we will know what you have built or building. That's the scriptural examples.

Cheers!

sammied:


I do not know better. You have a bible go study it. We all have one. Don't you? But if you cannot. I will outline them after work today.

vooks:
Don't be too smart, setting criticism standards too high for anyone to keep your MoG 'above reproach'.

In the fewest words tell me who has a right to point out to a falsehood in the body of Christ

vooks:

Waiting...tic toc

sammied:



So the examples of Rick Joyner and Reinhard Bonke I gave is not enough for you? You didn't read it?

Now I remember that I was warned about you people always avoiding the truths earlier even when it there for you to see.

Oyakhilome is not my Pastor, I don't go to CE. I AM A LOVER OF EVERYONE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

One thing is certain you don't have that right, neither Winsomex.

vooks:
You know better, share with us a single false doctrine from Corinthians

sammied:

So the examples of Rick Joyner and Reinhard Bonke I gave is not enough for you? You didn't read it?

Now I remember that I was warned about you people always avoiding the truths earlier even when it there for you to see.

Oyakhilome is not my Pastor, I don't go to CE. I AM A LOVER OF EVERYONE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

One thing is certain you don't have that right, neither Winsomex.

Gombs:


I wish NL tsunami did not happen at all. That thread was a comedy central.

Yeah... right. He has the tsunami to thank for that else....!

WinsomeX:

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While at it, please point out the false doctrine in the epistles to the Corinthians. I couldn't find one, in case you did.

WinsomeX:


Rather than mention Bonkke and Joyner, you may want to point us to one scripture that says something like: the only time you have the right to point out errors and show who false prophets and their ministries are, is when you have met a certain minimum standard in Christian ministry. When you have "built" something.

Bonkke and Joyner are not the bible.

While at it, please point out the false doctrine in the epistles to the Corinthians. I couldn't find one, in case you did.

sammied:



Initially I was serious with pointing out truths With you guys. I was quite sincere but I know now what you guys are: exactly what someone said initially.

So I will just be strolling along this thread.

You desperately avoid truths even when the answer has been given.

Yes I will give Bonke and Joyner and many more over n over again. These are men that you cannot even stand on their platform in terms of results(I know about your eternity theory... Which I already debunked)

Now, you're hiding because you have apparently built nothing except all these Internet, faceless "Spiritual policeman ministry" Read 2nd Corinth 8v10....Paul had authority.. But he used it for building up and not tearing down even though he could.

Go read Jeremiah 1v10....he was commissioned to tear down but also to build up, to uproot and to plant. And I believe we are still reading what he tore down and the things he built up.....

You're just being unserious with my post, seriously I careless. Did I talk about attaining a standard? Lol...
I only show you biblical precedent and patterns which is far superior to your opinions. Be like the Bible characters I showed earlier in my posts. Of course I guess you cannot be like them... You're so preoccupied with all these
e-Spiritual policeman ministry.

Check Gombes..... Post.... He has provided answers to the corinthians church you ask above. If you're not satisfied. Go do your own research. Thank God you admit about the church in Galatia. It's still a perfect example of this discuss.
Cheers!

sammied:



So the examples of Rick Joyner and Reinhard Bonke I gave is not enough for you? You didn't read it?

Now I remember that I was warned about you people always avoiding the truths earlier even when it there for you to see.

Oyakhilome is not my Pastor, I don't go to CE. I AM A LOVER OF EVERYONE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

One thing is certain you don't have that right, neither Winsomex.

sammied:



I taught initially that you were someone who could look from another person perspective aside your own rigid one... Just like I have throughout this thread.

I accepted that some of the allegations about CE are true and some not true. And that even those which are true are not enough reason to label a whole body of believers a Cult.
You have refused to see that. No need for me to make further explanation. You wouldn't see it. So... Go study corinthians for yourself... If you can't. Good. I will outline nothing no matter what you say. I retract my my word on that.

Cheers!

Gombs:


Told y'all this bloke, vooks, needs some thick lensed glasses.

Nice one Buddy. They think it's their God given right to criticise. Wx aka DB believes it's his ministry to rebuke ministers.

WinsomeX:


Alright... You have no scriptures for your "built" ascertion than Bonkke and Joyner. You should never have entered into this discuss in the first place.

Cheers to you to.

sammied:

So you didn't see 2nd Corinth 8v10, Jeremiah 1v10....only Bonke and Joyner? Of course you can't see it.

2 Corinthians 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

sammied:

Lol... Really...

I shouldn't have entered the thread? Well I have entered. Lol... And I will keep debunking your e-Spiritual policeman ministry.

Cheers!

sammied:
Ricky Joyner could rebuke Todd Bentley when he fell... Why? Because he's a man of impeccable character and we can all see what he's built over the years.

Reinhard Bonke was involved in restoring Benny hinns marriage. In fact he rebuked and I told Benny he must get back to his wife. Today their marriage is fully restored and moving forward. I have plenty more examples. And of course, the works Bonke have done for the Lord, are we waiting till eternity to know at least some of it? These are men of strong character and Godly results.

sammied:
So the examples of Rick Joyner and Reinhard Bonke I gave is not enough for you? You didn't read it?

Now I remember that I was warned about you people always avoiding the truths earlier even when it there for you to see.

Oyakhilome is not my Pastor, I don't go to CE. I AM A LOVER OF EVERYONE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

One thing is certain you don't have that right, neither Winsomex.

Gombs:


1. 2 Corinthians 11:4 "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him]."

The false apostle(s) came into the church from the outside just as Satan did into the Garden. They were like the Judaizers, seeking to impose Jewish customs on the Corinthians.

Their fascination with rhetoric and oratory suggest they had been influenced by Greek culture and philosophy.

Despite their vicious attacks on him, Paul’s quarrel with the false apostles was not personal, but doctrinal (remember what Jo was trying to tell you?) Read from the start of his page.. Those things you highlighted as what makes CE a cult, were they doctrinal? I can't remember you attack CE doctrines much (maybe speaking in tongues only) ... But the person of pastor Chris has always been your specialty... From his hair, to voice, to rhapsody to TV to etc. Yours was a personal vendetta.


2. They claimed to be apostles; in fact, they claimed to be "super apostles", 2Cor.11:5; cf. 11:13. They set themselves up as superior to Paul, cf.11:12; Rev.2:2.


3. They claimed to teach the "true gospel" (like you and some other folks here), 11:4.

What exactly did they teach, as in 2Cor.11:4; cf. chapter 3. ??

a. Another Jesus. A misrepresentation of the plan of God by the process of addition to the Word of God.

b. They misrepresented certain aspects of the person of Christ.

c. A different gospel. They taught salvation by faith plus works following the pattern of the Judaizers of Act.15:5.

Should I continue?

Gombs:
Sammied, well done. You've done a lot here already.

Look carefully, see what WX wrote about Galatians church. They are same as the Corinthians church. They both had issues of a false doctrine esp of salvation, they mixed Christianity with Judaism, etc.

Care less about WX, like you rightly said... He prides himself in his e-spiritual police ministry.

Joagbaje:
TRASH !!!! . No one teaches such things in ce . Speaking in tongues can't be taught . What we can say is rather to teach you on how to RECIEVE the holyspirit . Not how to speak in tongues. Christ embassy is a sound bible teaching ministry . And satan won't stop ,manipulating propangada . To gullible ears

And this issue of cell leader is confusing. The brother also said we cannot approach the pastor directly.

Gombs:


Trustman... I have chosen to ignore you, no offence inteded please. NB:Jesus was NEVER sick.

nannymcphee:
you will agree with me that some of these happens when immature brethren are given responsibilities to handle & when the wrong things are done or words are used, the first timer runs with such after all, it was done by a leader( not knowing that the so call leader wasn't mature)

This ranges from dressing, to tongues, to giving, everything u can think of

as I earlier stated there are wrong practices but alot also stems from isolated actions from individuals

Winsomex you talked about marriages earlier on, do you know that pastor Chris never knew that such was going on, until he found out & addressed the situation, he is still doing that till date( there are details i can't go Into)

As I have stated in older posts, some things that are happening aren't known at the top, while some starts from the top, others either an over zealous member or leader acting based on his or her discretion.

The results are what is being pointed out on this thread